#Tmagp theory

[redstringredeye]

I am unwell

[macabresymphonies]

If by this point you don't believe Celia is the same TMA universe Celia her meeting with Lady Mowbray cemented she is, because that was the most "seasoned Magnus Achives character meets an avatar" interaction we've had in a while:

ask her if you can do something for her just to make sure she scrams

don't give your name when trying to be tricked into saying it

ignore her creepy sniffing and vauge remarks

don't interact needlessly

don't play into her narrative

don't get caught on the stupid pun at the end

Godspeed Celia, you beautiful creature, if anybody is equipped to live till the end it's you.

[clare-89]

Interesting parallels Chester. Very interesting.

[the-butterbun]

"There's something familiar in the figures i paint. I don't know what it is. They are so impossible in their shape and yet i feel like they all had names at some point. Like this one, Micheal, I think."

[bobliophage413]

i know it probably won’t be this BUT i’ve been entertaining myself thinking about what if alice and sam find the tape with episode 200 (maybe minus the part with basira n friends) in the ruins of the magnus institute and they just stare at each other like:

while listening to

guy from computer doing a murder

guy from computer lore dumping

SECOND guy from computer yelling at guy from computer for doing a murder

GUYS FROM COMPUTER ARE GAY FOR EACH OTHER? love wins.

what’s this about traveling other dimensions?

second guy from computer doing a murder. love loses.

[cindytoast404]

‘when is it okay to lie’ being the last question sam was asked… the fact that the static sound appears after someone lies… there are strings here but i can NOT connect them

[trans-jon-rights]

Okay so some of you may be familiar with the fact that alchemy heavily relates to The Magnus Protocol, especially with the latest episode.

It's already admitted that Sam Khalid's name is at least inspired by Prince Khalid Ibn Yazid, a famous alchemist from the 7th century. Well I'd like to go a bit deeper, and point out more connections :

Alice Dyer -> Edward Dyer

Teddy Vaughn -> Thomas Vaughan

Colin Becher -> Johann Joachim Becher

Lena Kelley -> Edward Kelley

Celia Ripley -> George Ripley

Chester -> Robert de Chester

I've yet to find anything about Norris or Augustus but this is what I've got. But there's more ! There are connections !

Edward Dyer and Thomas Vaughan were both Rosicruscians (and friends, too), a subcategory of alchemists

Robert De Chester was the one who translated Khalid Ibn Yazid's works from Arabic to Latin

Johann Joachim Becher was German, then travelled to England and resided in Scotland

Edward Kelley worked with Robert Boyle (mentionned in MAGP 19)

I'm not sure exactly what to do with it, but that's what I've got. I'm going insane over that so expect some more over the next few days.

[ceaselessbasher]

I really wish Sam comes back but mixed with the Archivist

You can't have an alchemy story without a fucked up chimera!

[lostwords-found]

Oh shit. I just looked up the beer, Doom Bar, that Luke orders for him and Alice at the end of ep 15. Fun fact, turns out it's named for a treacherous sandbar that has wrecked hundreds of ships...

Ships that were sailing into Padstow. Where episode 11 was set.

With the repeated emphasis on food and drink in Protocol, there's no way that one's a coincidence. Luke Dyer--whether or not you know it yet, you are in it, lad. You are in it much, much too deep.

[tea-cuz-why-not]

I’m calling it now, Sam’s gonna become an avatar, willingly.

[viscerally-tired]

No but seriously have we considered whimsigoth Gerry?... I don't wanna get involved in discourse, but I do wanna throw that out there cause I haven't seen anyone else say it

like

It's free, comfy, has pops of colour, and can be taken in sososososo many directions

[bucket-of-spiders]

Guys what if Colin’s voice shows up in the computer

[macabresymphonies]

I was like "huh, loads of alchemy in Magnus Protocol, better pick up some books on alchemy to see if they help me understand some hidden themes" so I picked up "Secrets of Alchemy" by Lawrence M. Principe and guys, I'm just sitting there, reading it like:

THERE IS SO MUCH STUFF THAT'S CURRENTLY RELEVANT. DYES (INKS??) BEING ONE OF MAIN SUBJECTS, AN ALTAR WHERE YOU SACRIFICE MEN OF THREE METALS AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS (FREDDY?), GERMAN CODE BEING RELEVANT (???), ONE OF THE MAIN ARABIC SCHOLARS OF ALCHEMY WAS PRINCE FUCKING KHALID (like, ya know, SAMAMA KHALID??).

I'm only TWO CHAPTERS INTO THIS BOOK and already had like five points where I'm gleefully reading it and suddenly going "...wait". I will go insane before S1 even ends.

[lights-at-night]

ITS THE SAME TREE

hey so remember that guy in tmagp 3? not sure if this is obvious but i think the tree in that episode is the same tree that isaac newton made in tmagp 19.

the creature first "[takes] root", as is the same with samuel webber. both mention lethargy.

samuel webber states his desire for the sun and the tree dog is said to grow towards the sun with "insatiable desire".

in conclusion, the tree is a reoccuring character and it survived until at least 2009 (the time of samuel webbers tree-becoming). i suspect we'll see it again (maybe ink5oul's floral tattoos have something to do with it?). i have some indistinct thoughts about what it's turning stuff into, but that's for another post.

[hawstar]

my contribution to the “something is up with luke dyer and his water association” theory is the fact that he plays the bass. he plays the Bass. fish pun.