#Thusnelda at the Triumph of Germanicus

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Thusnelda at the Triumph of Germanicus by Karl von Piloty 1873

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Thusnelda Led in Germanicus' Triumph / Thusnelda in the Triumphal Procession of Germanicus

by Karl von Piloty

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Thusnelda by Ernst von Bandel, between 1838-1843. Lippisches Landesmuseum Detmold.

"Thusnelda /ðʌsˈnɛldə/ (c. 10 BC – unknown) was a Germanic Cheruscan noblewoman who was captured by the Roman general Germanicus during his invasion of Germania. She was the wife of Arminius. Tacitus and Strabo cite her capture as evidence of both the firmness and restraint of Roman arms. Thusnelda was the daughter of the pro-Roman Cheruscan prince Segestes. In 9 AD, Arminius, Thusnelda's future husband, who had been given by his father to the Romans as a child and raised as a Roman military commander serving under Publius Quinctilius Varus, switched sides to the Germans, and led a coalition of Germanic tribes that defeated the legions of Varus at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. The conflict between the Roman Empire and the Germanic tribes continued after the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest, and Arminius abducted and impregnated Thusnelda circa 14 AD, likely as a result of a dispute with her pro-Roman father. In May 15 AD, Thusnelda was captured by Germanicus, who commanded the invasion of Germania. She was pregnant and staying with her father, who had seized her from Arminius at some point. It was Segestes who delivered her to Germanicus, after the latter saved the former by driving off Arminius' forces, who had besieged Segestes. Arminius grieved his loss of Thusnelda deeply and did not marry again. According to Tacitus, Arminius was "driven to frenzy" by the loss of his wife. During her captivity, Thusnelda gave birth to her and Arminius' only child, Thumelicus. At the Battle of the Weser River, Arminius engaged in a famous disputation with his brother Flavus, who was still serving in the Roman army. Flavus informed Arminius that Thusnelda was being well-treated — as, he claimed, was typical of Rome. On May 26, 17 AD, Thusnelda and her son Thumelicus were displayed as prized trophies of the triumph granted to Germanicus. During the triumphal parade, her father was forced to watch from the stands. Contemporary historians evince discomfort with her display as evidence of Roman victory in Germania, as Arminius had resisted capture. Thusnelda's son, Thumelicus, was trained at the gladiator school in Ravenna and is believed to have died in a gladiator show at a young age. Tacitus wrote that he would report on Thumelicus' fate "at the proper time" — i.e., when he discussed the year in question in his chronicle. The main gap in the text of the Annals is for 30 and 31 AD, so it could be that Thumelicus died then, aged 15 or 16. Details of Thusnelda's life after the triumph of 17 AD and her date of death are unknown."

-taken from wikipedia

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Thusnelda at the Triumph of Germanicus, by Karl von Piloty, 1873.

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Ancient Roman statue of a “barbarian” woman prisoner, dated to the 2nd century CE, with modern restorations. Though there is no conclusive evidence that the statue depicts any single person, the piece is called Thusnelda, named after the wife of the chief of the Germanic Cherusci tribe who was captured by Germanicus in 15 CE. Together with her newborn son, Thusnelda was put on display during Germanicus’s triumph in 17 CE to symbolize Germanicus’s victory in Germany, though in truth his victory was hardly complete. 

Marble. Currently located in the Loggia dei Lanzi in Florence, Italy. Source: Ancientrome.ru.

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Barbarians Season 2: What to Expect

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Warning: contains Barbarians spoilers

Barbaren – to give Barbarians its original German title (which you should, because then you can sing it to the tune of The Beach Boys’ Barbara Ann) appears to have been a massive hit for Netflix. It came out of nowhere in the last week of October and whipped straight into the streaming service’s Top 10.

It would be unusual then, if Barbaren weren’t renewed for a second season. Though there’s no official word yet – and Netflix has been slashing and burning through a pile of single season new commissions of late – fans should be hopeful about the chances of a return for the German-language historical drama.  

Based on real-but-jazzed-up historical events, season one concluded with the climactic Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in 9 CE. Luckily for us, history kept going after that, and Barbarians co-leads Arminius and Thusnelda (played by Laurence Rupp and Jeanne Goursand) feature in several subsequent chapters that would provide ample inspiration for more TV drama.

Season one focused on the internal identity conflict of Arminius, the Germania-born son of the Cherusci tribe’s Reik (or leader) who was raised in Rome as a noble hostage by his people’s enemy. Over six episodes, Arminius transitioned from Roman knight to Cherusci rebel, betraying his Roman upbringing and uniting the Germanic tribes to revolt against the empire of Augustus Caesar in a climactic battle that humiliated the Roman army.

Flavus and The Battle of Idistaviso

Season two could skip forward five or so years to explore a battle widely viewed as the Roman retaliation for the Teutoburg Forest ambush: The Battle of Idistaviso (also known as The Battle of Weser River and The Battle of Minden). It was fought in 16 CE between the Romans, led by Germanicus, and the Germanic tribes, led by Arminius. What makes this particular military clash ripe for dramatic adaptation is that serving under Germanicus was none other than Arminius’ younger brother Flavus.

Like Arminius, Flavus (not his real name but thought to be a nickname relating to his blonde hair) was taken from his Cherusci home and raised in Rome. Unlike Arminius, Flavus stayed loyal to his Roman captors and fought against the people of his homeland. You can picture it now – two brothers on opposite sides of the battlefield, both fighting for the place they call home.

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Add to which a truly dramatic backdrop for the battle, which saw the Germanic army suffer a destabilising defeat. In the account by Roman historian Tacitus, several of the retreating Germanic soldiers attempted to swim to safety across the Weser River, but were brought down by “a storm of projectiles or the force of the current”. Those that climbed trees to escape the slaughter were picked off by Roman archers.

Germanicus’s Triumph, Thusnelda’s humiliation

The battle was such a success for Roman general Germanicus that he was granted a ‘Triumph’ back in Rome to celebrate his victory (the Roman equivalent of a winning sports team travelling around the town centre in an open-topped bus, spraying champagne and taking selfies). One feature of Germanicus’ Triumph in particular would make for excellent TV: the parading of the captured Thusnelda and her infant son. 

Barbarians season one left us with the cliffhanger that Thusnelda, wife of Arminius but lover of Folkwin Wolfspeer (an invention of the series and not a real person from history), was pregnant with Folkwin’s child. Complicating the love triangle even more is the vow that Folkwin made to the Germanic gods to sacrifice his first-born child in return for their help. Thusnelda, we imagine, won’t look kindly upon that. 

In history, a pregnant Thusnelda was captured by Germanicus after her Roman-sympathising father Segestes delivered her to the Roman general in exchange for the protection of his army. She gave birth to Arminius’ son who was raised in Rome and is believed to have been educated at a school for Gladiators, though historical details are sketchy from that point onwards. 

A new location in Rome?

The battle, the enemy-brother, the baby, the Triumph, the capture, the sacrifice… there are endless plot possibilities for a potential next season of Barbarians. Budget notwithstanding, the show could also introduce a new location in Rome, where Flavus, Germanicus and later, Thusnelda would be based. 

There’s even enough for more after that. Arminius lived until 21 CE, which gives him over a decade from the season one finale battle. He went on to a famous enmity with a leader called Maroboduus, a Roman-raised Marcomanni tribal king who formed a confederacy with neighbouring Germanic tribes and refused to join Arminius’ war against Rome. Season three, anyone?

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Thusnelda Led in Germanicus' Triumph, by Carl Theodor von Piloty

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Thusnelda (c. 10 BC - unknown) was a Germanic noblewoman captured by Germanicus, the grandson of Augustus, and leader of an army that invaded Germania. The ancient Roman historian Tacitus and Strabo cites her capture as evidence of both the firmness and restraint of Roman arms.

She was the daughter of the Cheruscan prince Segestes. Her father had intended her for someone else, but Arminius had abducted and impregnated her. Arminius subsequently led a coalition of Germanic tribes that lured the legions of Publius Quinctilius Varus to near-annihilation at Battle of Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD. This disaster generally is seen as stifling any future ambitions of Rome to conquer Germania.

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Thusnelda in the Triumphal Procession of Germanicus

by Karl von Piloty

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Thusnelda at the Triumph of Germanicus by Karl von Piloty, 1873

"In dealing with these peoples distrust has been a great advantage, whereas those who have been trusted have done the greatest harm, as, for instance, the Cherusci and their subjects, in whose country three Roman legions, with their general Quintilius Varus, were destroyed by ambush in violation of the treaty. But they all paid the penalty, and afforded the younger Germanicus a most brilliant triumph — that triumph in which their most famous men and women were led captive, I mean Segimuntus, son of Segestes and chieftain of the Cherusci, and his sister Thusnelda, the wife of Armenius, the man who at the time of the violation of the treaty against Quintilius Varus was commander-in‑chief of the Cheruscan army and even to this day is keeping up the war, and Thusnelda's three-year‑old son Thumelicus; and also Sesithacus, the son of Segimerus and chieftain of the Cherusci, and Rhamis, his wife, and a daughter of Ucromirus chieftain of the Chatti, and Deudorix, a Sugambrian, the son of Baetorix the brother of Melo. But Segestes, the father-in‑law of Armenius, who even from the outset had opposed the purpose of Armenius, and, taking advantage of an opportune time, had deserted him, was present as a guest of honour at the triumph over his loved ones." -Strabo, Geography, Book VII 1.4

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Hermann and Thusnelda by Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Tischbein, 1822

"Drusus Caesar and Gaius Norbanus were now consuls, and a triumph was decreed to Germanicus with the war still in progress. He was preparing to prosecute it with his utmost power in the summer; but in early spring he anticipated matters by a sudden raid against the Chatti. Hopes had arisen that the enemy was becoming divided between Arminius and Segestes: both famous names, one for perfidy towards us, the other for good faith. Arminius was the troubler of Germany: Segestes had repeatedly given warning of projected risings, especially at the last great banquet which preceded the appeal to arms; when he urged Varus to arrest Arminius, himself, and the other chieftains, on the ground that, with their leaders out of the way, the mass of the people would venture nothing, while he would have time enough later to discriminate between guilt and innocence. Varus, however, succumbed to his fate and the sword of Arminius; Segestes, though forced into the war by the united will of the nation, continued to disapprove, and domestic episodes embittered the feud: for Arminius by carrying off his daughter, who was pledged to another, had made himself the hated son-in‑law of a hostile father, and a relationship which cements the affection of friends now stimulated the fury of enemies."

-Tacitus, Annals: Book 1.55

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