#This is not a Medea hate post btw
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Jason and Medea rant I guess?
"Jason is an asshole Medea deserves better" Yes, Jason IS an asshole. But so is Medea. Yes, she had a reason but that isn't an excuse. That isn't an excuse for killing SO many people. For killing her brother and killing her SONS, who were, let me remind you, LITTLE CHILDREN. And why did she choose to do that? OUT OF RAGE BECAUSE SHE FELT BETRAYED BY JASON. he sucks. she sucks. Those little boys deserved better. If I was kirke/Circe I would've also told then to SCRAM off my island. Badddddd vibes man.
I'm glad Jason is dead. I hope she also died. They were... Questionable in the Argonautica. But, GOD, I hated them in the Medea play man. The Medea play ruined everything (I mean, it is a tragedy. And that's also a good thing cause' were supposed to hate all the characters in those kinds of works-). The comparison to Theseus hurt. I always see people comparing them to how Theseus abandoned Ariadne and that it was foreshadowing. Yes. But also consider that the Theseus and Ariadne comparison was in the Argonautica, not in the play. In the Argonautica their relationship is (semi) HEALTHY. And the Argonautica and the Medea play have DIFFERENT writers.
Also, I feel like it's also important to mention that, just like most mythos, THERE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE THESEUS AND ARIADNE MYTH. there are versions where he didn't abandon her. Why do you all ignore those just so you could have your tragic girlboss character wronged by men?? Like, specifically wronged by men. Like, you can still reference that version but you have to acknowledge the other one's too
And the fact people can sympathize with Medea STILL after everything she's done- And I'm not talking about everyone but some specific individuals who do that shit. Apparently we hate the Greek Mythology characters because they do atrocious crimes. But when we mean those crimes we actually mean when the male characters wrong the female ones or when there's r*pe. Apparently we don't care about the other way around??
Circe and Odysseus are a prime example. Most people don't even care enough to dig deeper and see that ODYSSEUS DID NOT LIKE KIRKE. IF HE DIDN'T SLEEP WITH SHE WOULD'VE KEPT HIS MEN AS HOSTAGES/SWINE. And yet, these people are willing to claim he's a cheater? Bro 😔
We can't forgive these Greek characters for rape and adultery (WHICH, WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN'T), nor should we forgive them for murder and other crimes. Medea and Jason BOTH deserved to be punished. No matter how shitty their situations could've been. That doesn't change the terrible things they did. Can we admit Jason was a piece of shit to Medea in the play? Yes. Does that mean we should sympathize with her, call her a 'girlboss', disregarding the atrocious things she's done? NO.
Can we still like these characters? To an extent. I love Jason and Medea as characters, emphasis on CHARACTERS. They're fascinating. But it still frustrates me how much both of them SUCK. Both of them still frustrate me. People always call Jason a moron (as they should) but, no one ever flames Medea? (At least, not a lot of people I've seen) Which, they ALSO should.
Greek characters are fascinating. We can like them. But not to the extent where we like them as PEOPLE. Not every story in Greek Mythology was a tragedy. That needs to be acknowledged (take a shot everytime I say acknowledged in this post. You'll die of alcohol poising-).
Jason sucks. Medea sucks. Almost everyone in Greek mythology sucks. We have to acknowledge that. But we can still like them as CHARACTERS. And don't get me wrong I like Medea, she's such a interesting and complex character. But she is not some 'girlboss'. No women in Greek Mythology is a 'girlboss'. Because our definition of 'girlboss' is a very modern term of describing a female characters or person who DESERVES that praise. Cause, well, they're a badass! And these works are ancient. And quite frankly none of these female characters deserve praise-
Some do, don't get me wrong, but even then the term 'girlboss' doesn't really fit these ancient perspectives. Like maybe Penelope, Danaë, Ariadne is also a good one. But Medea sure as hell isn't one of them. She is a MURDERER, killed her YOUNG CHILDREN out of spite for her husband.
And not only that she killed OTHER PEOPLE. And everytime it was out of spite or out of love for Jason. Like- She hates Jason more than she loves her family/children.
"But she felt bad-" FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES. SHE WAS SO CHILL WITH KILLING HER LITTLE BOYS. And then dragged their bodies in her chariot while bickering with Jason. Like, EW MAN. How do you sympathize with that?? I don't care if she was felt betrayed by Jason. The SUCKS don't get me wrong. BUT SHE'S STILL A DISGUSTING MURDERER.
also something that confuses me- Does the Argonautica take place before the myth of Theseus or after?? Because Jason references Ariadne helping Theseus in the Argonautica. But then way later after the events of the play she marries Theseus' father and tells him to poison him?? (this was before the minotaur)
Either I misunderstood something while reading and researching. Or this is one of the many, many, many continuity errors you'll find while researching these ancient works.
To end this rant off, I don't care if Medea is your favorite character in Greek Mythology or if you hate her guts. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you don't have to stop thinking that just because some random girl on Tumblr made a rant. But I do think people should still, at least, ACKNOWLEDGE what she did. You can still like her, she is fictional. But you still need to be AWARE of that. It's just... kinda wrong ignoring that just cause you like her character.
You can like these characters. I do! But don't allow that to turn you ignorant. You don't have to talk about these parts if they make you uncomfortable. That's valid. But you have to acknowledge that they still exist.
Medea is a character you can sympathize with until you can't. She has reasons, but reasons don't equal excuses. Her actions aren't justified. She is an asshole. An asshole person.
#Greek mythology#greek myth#jason and medea#medea#tagamemnon#This is not a Medea hate post btw#I love her character she's so interesting.#But she sucks
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@silima 😳 this is a fanfiction blog why do i only post links once a year. my brain is so powerful, i convinced myself that what i write is canon. fair warning, some parts toward the end make little sense if you haven't read tlh recently. but it's totally readable because i am amazing 😤😤😤
i had a tlh post in my drafts about their friendship and then i realized that the event and lines i was referencing were fanfiction 😩
#thanks for asking nina 🥺 youre a real one#okay last time i said no reblog but thats now null. anyway. old post tags:#OH WAIT THE FIC IS VALGRACE BTW!!!!#now old tags:#do you remember that fic where i followed the timeline of tlh and those two were just staring at each other and being dumb#i used some of the lines from that and then now rereading the post i went 😯 that seems too good to be true. and it was#anyway in conclusion i should have been hired to write tlh because they wouldve loved each other 😌#but holy fuck have i rewritten some of those scenes waaay too much. i wrote a scene and sent it to someone and they said 'have i read this?'#and like. yes! because i wrote this svene 2 times before! 😭 this is absolutely about the post medea scene ahhh#theres some parts of tlh i definitely would rewrite though but im not going to say it yet haha. they are very obvious changes hahah#hmm anyway#this was just funny to me#and uhh#valgrace#jason grace#leo valdez#ummm fuck i hate this part cause i dont know the actual tag 😩😩😩#my fic#fic things#my fic nonsense
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🌴 🌹 💐 🌲 = Aether
⚡ 💧 🌺 🌳 = c!R
🌻 🌙 ☁️ 🍃 = Any oc(s)
c!Aether:
🌴 : Mary of course, why would he choose his mother? ( ah yes fun fact: he has a very bad love hate relationship with R )
🌹 : probably losing his loved ones, especially Mary since he's a simp XD
💐 : The garden. ( you know which garden i meant ;] )
🌲 : his greatest strength is his magic, for example when he whips out something out of thin air or made a shield in the White Void. He used to have his lense ( to control his magic better ) but he threw it away since he thought it wouldn't be needed anymore. His weakness would be his mental state. He stresses himself very easily to the point he can't even think straight. You can tell how stressed he is by looking at the liquid from his eyes. If he's fine then the liquid wouldn't dripped down his face, but if he's stressed enough it would just dripped everywhere.
c!R:
⚡ : they don't sleep, that's it. they can't sleep from the trauma they used to get.
💧 : making the "perfect" creations
🌺 : either Medea, Azazel, or Ethera ( i'll show you Ethera in a rp, if there's an opportunity of course )
🌳 : as adorable as it sound, they actually collect crystals. they find it pretty and amazing ( for you know like rose quartz forself love kinda thing? )
Any OC(s) [ i'll do Ethera so you'll know her a little better ] :
🌻 : i have to say pretty well, she never really experience any trauma since she died in a very young age ( oop lore- 👀 )
🌙 : her unusual hobby would be changing outfit style everyday. everyday she would wear something very different than yesterday.
☁️ : mostly fantasy medieval
🍃 : nicest.
[ okay okay i spilled A LOT of lore here. don't worry, I'll make sure to write R and the other's backstory with each other. and also to probably post Maether's Story in wp- ]
[ oh uh btw i think i did every question right, because i'm not sure since i'm using android. sometimes emojis confuses me- ]
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reaction to the lost hero by rick riordan
imma be honest this is a long time coming, okay so here’s the timeline we’re looking at so you understand me. i read lightning thief in middle school, dropped it and read it again in ninth grade. then i read sea of monsters, but never started titan’s curse. then for some reason in 11th grade i bought the second book in heroes of olympus and started to read it and got confused so i started to read titan’s curse and got to when percy took artemis’s place and then dropped it...again. very sad that time considering it was LEGIT THE END SO CLOSE. anyway yesterday i read the whole thing again and the battle of the labrinyth in like 6-8 hours. idk i can’t remember if i started at 10pm or midnight but i finished at 6am. anyways today i read the last olympian, and now i’m starting the lost hero. i thought it’d be funny to do my reactions.
this timeline is just funny because i have read so many books, and yet the most popular ones like percy jackson and harry potter, didn’t wanna finish lol. i still haven’t finished goblet of fire yet i read 100 pages an hour and could probably finish it in a day. anyways.
let the reactions begin
okay i’ve heard of jason but i was not expecting a pov already
woah electrocution
he’s already got a love interest what
he said the coach is 5’0 i now imagine the coach as danny devito i have no choice
piper and leo yes i recognize these names
(i’ve seen a lot of posts about percy jackson okay)
i like leo i don’t like dylan
i love the starwars reference
oh look guys we got popular girls that are racist, can they get their asses beat in this pls
dylan is also racist for smiling-asswipe
we love the cherokee representation
i hate them so much can they please leave
“i had to say something” i like coach hedge is this bad
i hope percy is the storm but i just know i wouldn’t be that lucky
ofc dylan is a racist monster
danny devito never returned :(
PLS TELL ME THESE REINFORCEMENTS ARE PERCY AND ANNABETH
who is the bulky dude
i’m sorry i’m laughing he’s a big scary dude with his head shaved and A RAINBOW TATTOO and his name is butch
oh so that’s why percy isn’t here
okay usually when reading i can form some kind of theory or connection but at this point i literally have no clue what is happening
i just knew as soon as he asked that he had abilities with fire but i was not expecting fire fingers
wow what a first impression “you should be dead”
wait so all i remember from the son of neptune was the beginning had percy alone i think and i’m not sure if he had his memory or maybe not and he was running away from monsters, so is what’s happening to jason similar to that? and WILL PERCY NOT BE FOUND IN THIS BOOK?
“That also was necessary. Long ago, your father gave me your life as a gift to placate my anger. He named you Jason, after my favorite mortal. You belong to me.
“Whoa,” Jason said. “I don’t belong to anyone.”
Now is the time to pay your debt, she said. Find my prison. Free me, or their king will rise from the earth, and I will be destroyed. You will never retrieve your memory.”
... okay theories, um a goat skin cloak was mentioned to have been owned by Zeus’s foster mother and that he owned it so the woman could either be the foster mother or Hera. If it was Hera, it would make sense that Zeus gave his son to placate her anger at his cheating or whatever. They are also trapped in Olympus, so prison would make sense. Hera was brought up a lot too, and according to wiki Hera persuaded Aphrodite to make her son make Medea fall in love with a mortal named Jason, so more than likely the lady is Hera. Their king will rise from earth could be the king from the battle of the labrynth, maybe. Or another king ya know there are so many.
Wait a minute
Something else I know about their names is Jason’s last name...JASON GRACE I thought it sounded familiar, because of Thalia Grace. Hah look at me being correct. That explains the flying and not being burnt by a lightning bolt—oh I’m stupid for not seeing it sooner.
Now just gotta figure out who Piper’s parent is.
Aha so I was right it was Hera.
Chiron not being able to give the information they need is kind of annoying.
Enceladus? So a giant offspring of Gaia, um...no bueno. Not a king tho.
“Child of lightning, beware the earth, The giants’ revenge the seven shall birth, The forge and dove shall break the cage, And death unleash through Hera’s rage.”
Okay theory time, child of lightning is obviously Jason. Beware the Earth...yeah no clue. The giants’ revenge the seven shall birth, the giants are probably the children of Gaia since that one giant was her child and it’s the seven are probably the seven half bloods from the great prophecy. The forge and dove shall break the cage, um maybe Leo is the forge since he’s hephaestus’s child (probably butchered the spelling). Doves are typically associated with aphrodite/venus, so idk about that. Maybe Piper is Venus’s child, I mean her God parent is her mom and it’d be funny since she was judging the other aphrodite kids. Also I assume Hera will kill whoever trapped her or someone involved since she’s so mad. Idk.
Could kill Drew btw.
CALLED IT CALLED IT CALLED IT IM A GENIUSSS
Wait. This woman looks like Hera, her clothes are made of Earth and she said Leo would fight her children trying to wake her. They’re gonna try to wake Gaia, which would make sense that it said stay away from Earth if she’s the Earth Goddess
I like the wolves thing because Romulus and Remus, ya know the twin boys who were raised by wolf and started Rome.
“You are our saving grace, as always. The she-wolf curled her lip, as if she had just made a clever joke”
I mean yeah his last name is grace
“She must really like this Percy guy to search for him so hard, and that made Jason a little envious. Was anyone searching for him right now? What if somebody cared for him that much and was going out of her mind with worry, and he couldn’t even remember his old life?”
so what if Percy’s just chilling at the Roman version of camp halfblood without a clue to who he is? bro.
Imagine reading this and seeing all of things I get right and wrong and wanting to slam your head into a wall.
Okay like idk why Annabeth was freaking out we kind of knew they were siblings, I mean they have the same dad. Unless this is saying they have the same mom or are twins or something. That’d be cool. That’s probably what he’s saying tbh but still, could’ve emphasized it more than “that’s my sister” like dude.
Anyway, they look very different so that’s funny.
King Boreas? uh.
Oo French
Let’s see what I can translate from the very little duolingo I did. Bienvenu, maybe a greeting. Idk which tho. Je suis Piper, I am Piper. Et c’est Jason, fils de Zeus, and this is Jason, son of Zeus. Vous parlez francais? tres bien, you speak french? good. Hey not bad, not shockingly good but considering I did the duolingo lessons 4 years ago, not bad. Vrai? Truth? Yeah I just looked it up.
Danny devito is alive!
“Leo scratched his head. “Well, I dunno about Enchiladas—”
“Enceladus,” Piper corrected.”
Leo is me omfg
DANNY DEVITO IS BACK
Arrows...HUNTERS OF ARTEMIS PLS?
“Leo stepped out next. “You’re catching me, too, Superman. But I ain’t holding your hand.”
this made me laugh ok moving on
Uh fight a sea monster? bro is Jason just Percy 2.0
“Aphrodite’s message was clear: This one needs no improvement.
And Piper agreed.”
I wonder if you can hear me squealing from hundreds or thousands of miles away
Did you miss the fact that he’s thirty feet tall— I DIED
Who slew titan k-what now? So basically yes. Percy 2.0
Okay I recognize the name Hazel, and all I ask is that she is not involved with Jason because Jason and Piper are really freaking cute.
an exchange of leaders, SO THEY DID SWITCH THEM
The way I called it
I WAS RIGHT AHA
anyways. time to read son of neptune
#rick riordan#percabeth#jason grace#thalia grace#piper x jason#the lost hero#heroes of olympus#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#hera#aphrodite#leo valdez
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