#The Sun and moon Show fandom

[alexandraisyes]

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So we can all agree that the Sun and Moon fandom is dying right?

There is a quiz at the end of the post.

Me myself and many others have left. Whether it is due to the rising toxicity of the show or the fans. At this point it is simply a creative backdrop. Something you take ideas off of instead of something that you enjoy and turn into a AU. And at this point if you have it as an AU. You feel as if you need to somehow say it's separated or is only based off of the good old days.

The fact that there is a difference between the good old days and what has happened is sad. I will admit I haven't been here forever. I wasn't here since the beginning. I wasn't watching the episodes upload as I watched. But I did do my best to watch every single lore post I can find. Anything that wasn't a standard gaming episode. So I can at least say that I tried to follow the story.

And to put it slightly the story has gone sour. Characters have stopped feeling right in their actions. Underlying messages have started to get toxic. Many bad guys have gotten so characterized that them being bad guys doesn't feel right. Are good characters no matter how developed they get either regress due to plot convenience. Or have died and basically reset the storyline.

The story seems stuck. There's some gems here and there but it seems like they can't figure out the next story action. And even if they do, it gets so much hate from the fandom that it struggles to continue. It feels like they continuously reset and reset to try and find a story that the fans will enjoy. It's not working unfortunately. There have been many retcons due to this. And there has also been many splits.

And this is not even mentioning the toxicity of the fandom itself at this point. That's basically split itself in two and the other will hate the other. This happened most obviously with the Moon X Solar argument. Where you either enjoy it or you don't enjoy it. It has caused a multiple splits because of differences in morals. It's just created a hostile environment between fans.

And I'm not making this post a point fingers at the whole argument. I've researched it and I know why some people believe it's okay. Whether it's because they believe solar never really wanted to be a part of the family. Or the simple understanding that by most laws, incest between adopted family members is okay. I understand that people have reasons to like it. It doesn't mean that these reasons are shared though. It doesn't mean that the moral implications of that relationship don't affect some people. And neither side is willing to come to a mutual agreement.

This is also not bringing up the fact that the whole villain versus hero argument is starting to become even more split. Sun, Moon, Lunar, Earth, Solar are both currently on the good side. While Eclipse, Blood Moon, and a couple others are still obviously on the bad guy side. But Eclipse and Blood moon have started to become more and more relatable. People can no longer look at those characters and just imagine the villainy part. Especially when the heroes decide to mock the suffering that they did to the villains in the first place.

That is my personal scare between the fandom right now. I can't look at eclipse and not deny that Moon's actions were the reason of it. I can't look at moon and justify years of abuse. Whether it was old moon or new moon at this point. I can't stand and justify treating blood moon as a villain has tested its limit. I can't deny that blood moons actions are more so based on need than actual want. And the creators forcing that idea backfired enough that they barely have him as a character anymore.

There is a split between people who want to support moon and sun with all their actions. There is a split between people who think solar should be considered a part of the family or not. There is a lack of storylines that don't have half of the community hating upon it. There is a lack of feeling an actual tug of conflict in the stories due to the villains being so understandable. There is a hostility between the fan base because of all of these.

I put out a poll a long time ago. Asking people why they basically watched the show anymore. The general consensus was they were just watching the show because they needed to. Because they felt obligated to follow the plot wherever it went. I feel like the fan base that is following the show for their own enjoyment is slowly disappearing. And this is not talking about the amount of people that have straight out left due to all the reasons above.

Whether it is the show's fault for not being able to supply the engaging store anymore that people can enjoy. Or it is the fandom for it's toxic split between the morals of adoption incest, or the feeling that the villain shouldn't be getting as much hate as they do. The show was currently dying on both sides honestly. And the only reason many are continuing to watch the show, is the hope that it will get better, and the need to supply their AUs off of it.

How many of your friends have left because of these reasons? How many of them have had the conundrum of feeling like they need to stay because leaving feels like a betrayal to others or themselves.

How many of us are only holding because of nostalgia?

It feels like nowadays people either choose to blindly follow due to an overall support or question constantly if they should. It feels as if artists that give the show their thumbnails now, are the only people that do stuff happily with it. A conspiracy part of my brain wants to say that's only because not supporting it would mean they wouldn't have there art publicly endorsed. But that's only conspiracy and no fact.

The show has lost its splendor. As of now it's really only a character backdrop to some. A list of events and ideas that you could pull and twist to fit something kinder or better. It's like as if we're using the Sun and Moon like Robin Hood. Stripping it down to the basics just so we can share our twist of the same tale. I have heard many times from people that AUs are more enjoyable right now than actual Canon. I myself have said for multiple stories that they do not follow past backup eclipses death. Which in my opinion is when the show really started to go downhill.

I'm going to ask this question again. Because I feel as if it is important for people who read this post to see it under a newer light.

I will note. If you reblog this post just to argue that it's not dying, That solar X moon isn't incest, that characters like eclipse and blood moon should be treated as the absolute villains they are, and seeking Sun and Moon are evil is dumb. I will not respond. To be honest I will not respond to many reblogs of this. I'm simply putting this information out earnestly as my opinion. I am not here to hate on the artists. I am not here to hate on your difference in opinion. I am not here to say that the show writers are dumb or money monsters. This is my opinion. And if you wish to fight it, then you are not willing to accept differencing opinion.

[tsamsheadcanons]

Yooooo, welcome to the fandom!

From: The mod of @nexus-hates-the-celestial-family

Thanks, i appreciate your kindness ❤️

[imadethisaccountforaheadcannon]

I find it funny that this fandom who has such a huge tendency to dismiss and harass anyone with a differing opinion then them

Who got a channel deleted just cause of if thinks that the "right" thing to do is to blame it on the differences not the obsessive groupthink

Some assho le is going outta the way to try and delete my "wrong opinion" YouTube comments that doesen't happen in other fandoms usually other fandoms just shrug and move on but no This one just happens to feel entitled to actually get rid of them I've been I multiple fandoms the only difference why this one stands out is how intolerant and one-sided

Bloodmoon was most obviously going to be something sun did That was strait up supposed to be wrong and it pisses me cause back then I tried to correct out that bullshit sun is "morally" above all mentality all on my own for so long and what do they do be spineless completely make the show go off the rails I would have just been happy if they just ended it even if everyone just strait up died it would have been better then strait up giving a bunch of spoilt brats everything they want just so you can get more money for it

They allways have the same damn points I have discounted them many times but the time where I was trying to get them to recognise moons truama they allways had to bring sun into it

But the fact they were threatening to kill the VAs when lunar compared sun to eclipses when moon had been compared to eclipse many times before makes them automatically full of shit

and the fact that

Even in the latest episode moon gets strait up hit and got his arm dislocated by goliath and even if the creator Isn't being a liar about moon existing to make sun stronger through pain and none of the fqndom cares about that fact that moon is stile making sun stronger is not a good thing

Sun on many instances treated moon like crap moon stile exists for another person and this fanbase doesn't see anything wrong with that

If Moon was as truely as free as he said he would have realised sun ain't worth giving his time and energy to moon was eventually designed as a slave just to make sun better and the fact he is stile doing is not a good thing

And I could see sun as a slave owner earily on cause in case you didn't notice sun stile forced moon to do childcare when he clearly stated he didn't want to so many times so sun has even in the beginning used him for slavelabour

And this show insists on painting sun and good and if Lunar and Earth shows fandom likely have the same thing just them treating those with differing opinions like crap with it going on twicefold since that show is just two characters that can do no wrong

Honestly I really think this damn fandom hates me so much cause it knows that I'm right

This fandom has been to busy prattling on about how "trumatised" Sun is to see that he has strait up been at the centre of everything most the time

Just let it be moon for a bit

[tacxx]

Rahh!!! Trying different styles!!

(Too scared to tag the original creators)

[garbagechocolate]

04/06

[darkxsoulzyx]

Had an awful idea hAHAHAHA—

Charlie belongs to @cacaocheri

Remy belongs to @garbagechocolate

Staff belongs to @bunmuffin

Daff belongs to @nebuladreamz

[waterizsilly]

Thought I'd share this here:^

Context they brought back solar, but solar doesn't have all his memories back yet that's why he said run instead of ruin

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Moon takes the role of Jack's father after Solar's death

Transparent version under the cut

[socksandbuttons]

Introducing The Space Au!

@nekojaf and I have collaborated on these pages to introduce ya'll to our AU. First up is Eclipse, our smitten man and our lovely Miss Beige.

Rip Lunar watching his brother go from Captain to Mush in 0.5 seconds. Next Comic: [TBA]

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The SAMS fans are objectively SO much worse about this, but you all share this sin/lh

[alexandraisyes]

New Fic Idea Real?

I've been thinking about TSBS Hunger Games episode

And now I'm trying to convince Turbo to write something about it with me (it's a struggle, she's not good at killing characters and I do it with a demented glee). We've already got one horribly painful fic in the works (A Gilded Cage, coming to archives near you in . . . the future) and idk if I can convince her to write another horribly painful fic but I'm sure as fuck gonna try.

Because of the potential. The potential of a Hunger Games fanfic. Do you people see my vision??? Please tell me you do. I'm already coming up with thoughts and ideas and designs and-

And so let's all collectively pray that I can convince Turbo to write a Hunger Games fic even though we all know that I'm going to go out of my way to make the deaths really personal and awful and horrible to read and I'm going to purposefully make everyone cry with every single death. Your tears are the sugar in my cup of tea.

And for those going 'huh Peepaw might be onto something. . .'

DO IT. WRITE A HUNGER GAMES AU FIC. (I love the Hunger Games so much y'all have no idea). WRITE ONE AND TAG ME SO I CAN READ IT. I don't even care if it's not TSAMS I love Hunger Games in general.

[villetela]

Wassup SAMS Fans it's me (been there since eclipse but lost interest and lost track on lore)

Have this small Earth drawing I did (there's still more tbh XD)

[pluck-heartstrings]

Magma dump! The majority of these come from @daycarefriendpickup ‘s magmas, more than a few drawings featuring @aturtletotz ‘s delightful lads. I also attended one of @maudiemoods ‘s magmas and a GITM magma hosted by @venomous-qwille (hence their Ruin design)! I intend to participate in a bunch more!

Everyone in all the magmas are so nice and I literally want to be in a million more ;u;

[imadethisaccountforaheadcannon]

TSAMS fandom gives me shit cause "To many words or bad spelling

Do you realise my posts are mostly venting, oh they give you headaches I don't care I gave myself stress headaches when I used to fight people in the comments sections

[tacxx]

YOOO I'M ABT TO TWEAK OUT RN- AAAAAAA THE PICTURES FINALLY LOAD FOR ME SKKSHDBEVDIFGSGDXYHFHEHSHXHDHJ

Anyways take this nexus and dark sun shit I drew on my phone