#The 'it' is the absolute solver since V was possessed by it

[shinyshade8026]

Trust Me Not (Hero and Villain Duet) is so BombBerry coded.

So, you're back at it again?

Twistin' and manipulatin' every word I've said.

Come on, you know that's not true...

I'm just trying to help you,

Let me help you...

You are not my hero!

You don't know how it felt!

What else could I do with the cards that I've been dealt!?

You are not the villain...

You once held my hand...

[colacat53]

A Rundown of My Tessa Lives AU

It all starts at the Elliot Manor(of course) during the night of the Elliot and Frumptlebucket gala(N won't be here because he is still tied up outside on that tree, I'm pretty sure he only gets untied from that tree due to Uzi's interference and since this isn't Uzi looking into V and N's memories and is actually the true events of the gala there will be no appearance of darkXwolf17 to help him). When J and Tessa are confronted by V who is currently possessed by the Solver I think they will instead try to escape V instead of fighting her(since I think they only fight her in the first place to give N and darkXwolf17 time to get to the basement). They escape V and Tessa then attempts to stop Cyn from being silly. When Cyn possesses all the drones, J resists long enough to tell Tessa to run, Tessa listens and tries to get away before a Solver possessed J chases after her. Tessa manages go get outside before J catches up to her and J attacks her. I imagine Tessa grabbed the sword from J at some point so she tries to use it to defend herself against J. At some point during her escape, J manages to slash Tessa across the face with the fleshy eldritch claws gifted by Cyn. This causes Tessa to fall down a hill and into some bushes, leaving J to believe she is dead and so she returns to Cyn. (later when J comes to she she's the blood on her claws and is then convinced she killed Tessa)

Tessa stays hidden in that bush until everything is over and Cyn and her possessed drones leave the manor to go after the rest of earth. When JCJenson arrives Tessa comes out of the bush and tries to fight them with the sword she has and JCJENSON, upon seeing this terrified, injured girl with a sword take her in to patch her up and question her. Tessa at some point after getting patched up, reenters the manor and sees the results of Cyn's massacre(she also grabs the revolver she threw at Cyn)

Tessa allies with JCJENSON in order to stop Cyn and also get her drones back. Tessa grows up a bit and is trained by JCJENSON (on another planet besides Earth and Copper-9, presumably the planet where all the immortal dogs were moved to)

Enter Astronaut Tessa as she lands on Copper-9! Tessa explores Copper-9 for a bit before she gets attacked by a familiar face, a now Disassembly Drone J, who had mistaken Tessa in her astronaut suit as a drone that could be an easy meal for her. Upon hearing a surprised Tessa say "jaybird", a nickname Tessa had given her, J stops her attack in shock at the very much alive Tessa in front of her, who J had thought she had killed back at the manor. J apologizes(so much) to Tessa for what happened at the gala and Tessa forgives her, saying she knows that Cyn was controlling her(also this scene takes place during The Promening). Now that J and Tessa have been reunited they start working together and J takes Tessa to the door that Uzi's colony hides behind. When the two land, instead of Tessa beheading Reid with her sword I'm instead going to say that J attacked and ate him, much to Tessa's displeasure and Tessa asking "why the hell she did that" and J explaining that when Cyn turned J and the others into Disassembly Drones she made it so they had to consume oil to survive and Tessa then starts trying to fix that so J doesn't have to kill Worker Drones to survive. Eventually the two come across Doll who has been outside of the outpost since The Promening, trying to find a way to help stop the Absolute Solver. The three of them make their truce together on getting the keybug to get into the Cabin Fever Labs and all that goes the same with Doll taking the keybug and leaving when she sees that Tessa and J would be working with V.

I want to say the events of Dead End would go the exact same but at the same time I feel like the sentinels attacked Tessa in canon because it was actually Cyn so idk maybe the sentinels just attacked her because they hadn't seen humans in a while, idk.

someone already made a post on how Tessa being alive in Mass Destruction would play out so I'm just gonna say it plays out the same as that ( @ingulo-agualo for the au I'm talking about). I will however say that the reason Tessa disappeared after Doll confronted her was because she heard Cyn coming and fucking dipped because she knows she can't take on Cyn without the patch first and wasn't going to risk trying to help Doll get away in case Cyn possessed Doll(o7 Doll, you will be missed).

Once Cyn herself appears in Mass Destruction and tries to drag N and Uzi into the as J said "big scary hole thing" (also I imagine Cyn wouldn't look like how would as a normal drone since she wouldn't be able to wear a very much alive Tessa as a skinsuit and that she would instead look very eldritch and fucked up because I still think she looked really cool as Flesha) I feel like Tessa would freeze up in this moment in fear of Cyn because she remembers seeing the aftermath of the gala and I believe she was already afraid of Cyn during Home so I think seeing her again and also seeing how Cyn looks now would scare her quite a bit. Tessa only snaps out of this due to N grabbing her as he goes to take the spaceship from J.

Now time for Absolute End!!

So while Nori, Uzi, and N are all in space Tessa confronts Cyn alone, despite being afraid of her she knows she has to stop Cyn now or else Cyn will succeed in destroying Copper-9. Cyn easily wins against Tessa and is about to kill her

meanwhile, J, who was with Khan, Thad and Lizzy after N stole the spaceship from her and was trying to see what she could do about the gravity and weird tentacles Cyn was using to drag everything down when V and and sentinel buddy arrive. The two of them notice the scene of Cyn about to kill Tessa and J tells V to throw her at the two of them since due to the gravity J wouldn't be able to get to Tessa in time and so V throws J and J is able to save Tessa from Cyn. I imagine Cyn would try to possess J, like she did at the gala only for J to fight against it, where Cyn then decides to attack J, beheading her and trying to access her core. Tessa, not wanting J to be killed by Cyn, sneaks up on Cyn and attacks her with her sword, having learned her lesson from the gala on using the revolver. Tessa manages to hit Cyn a bit before Cyn fights back, using one of those big scythe/claws to attack her and send her flying into something nearby. This attack breaks Tessa's helmet and had Tessa not had this helmet on she would've died and at the best case scenario would've just been blinded and received a huge scar. (also I imagine that Tessa can survive without the spacesuit but in canon Cyn was using it as an excuse to have everyone believe she was Tessa since the human skeletons around Copper-9 don't wear helmets which makes me think it was probably fine for them to breathe and that the air wasn't toxic).

J, whose head had finished regenerating, sees the state of Tessa and uses the opportunity of Cyn not focusing on her to take Uzi's "bite me" literally and bite Cyn, as well as attacking Cyn with her tail, throwing Cyn into the hole. J then runs over to Tessa to check if she's okay, frantically asking if she's okay and removing the helmet, to which she then sees the scar on Tessa's face that J had given her when possessed at the manor. Upon seeing it, J apologizes again for what happened at the manor, Tessa stopping her and saying it's okay and that she forgave her. Tessa then comments on how J saving her from Cyn was pretty reckless but also how it was impressive that J resisted being possessed which leads to J saying she did it because she loved Tessa, that she had been in love with her since they were at the manor and that she would've rather died than let Cyn possess her again and have her hurt the person she loved. Tessa would return J's feelings, saying something like "Aww, Jaybird, I love you too" and also saying how she saved J from Cyn because she also cared about her. The two of them kiss(yay!) with J unfortunately getting a taste of Tessa's blood in that kiss because Tessa is bleeding from an open wound across her face that Cyn had caused(from the big scythe/claw thing) which kind of ruins it because ew she did not want to taste that. Also everything with N and Uzi's confrontation against Cyn, the "Callback Ping" scene, and Cyn chasing after V had been happening during this and when J and Tessa recover from their little moment they come just in time for the Uzi, N, and V vs Cyn fight and the two of them provide some support during the fight, with Tessa using her revolver and J also using the guns she has, J not physically joining the fight to stay by Tessa's side to protect her and to also help Tessa stay up because being sent into a wall really hurt.

After Cyn's defeat, Tessa and J live within the outpost, just like N and V. The two of them living together. I also assume N is probably living with Uzi with V either also living with them or living with Lizzy(Vizzy is also canon in this au)

also Tessa did get another scar on her face as a result of that fight with Cyn so her face is now even more scarred up but she is still silly and whimsical

[allmightyscroll-swag]

Hey anyone wants to hear about my angsty, edgy ass Murder Drones au? No?

Don't care you're getting it anyway!

Brief summary; Nori actually prepares for the Disassembly Drones arriving, and survives the attack that kills her in canon. This way she ends up actually raising Uzi more, and by extension, telling her about the Absolute Solver.

She still dies anyway I think lmao, but this means when the series events unfold and Uzi ends up with the absolute solver, she begins fucking with it's code to hopefully find a way to rid her system of it. Uzi gets way too close for comfort, and the Solver goes, “okay we gotta either take this bitch out or completely possess her,” and literally starts corrupting/deleting Uzi's data.

... Uzi is a stubborn edgy hormone fueled teenager though, so she fights fire with fire, rebuilding her own code and fucking with the solvers even more.

In the end it becomes an endless cycle of them both trying to get rid of each other. All the while, N & V try to find a way to get rid of the absolute solver from both Uzi and overall, because through fucking with it's code, she knows it's gonna try to eat the planet.

.yeah sorry for the unnecessary ramble, this au has been bouncing around in my head since I watched episode 7 lmao. But yeahhh angsty oooh there's a parasite in your brain and its literally killing you from the. Inside out and everything

[samiiola]

How can anyone hate her 😭😭??

I just saw a tt that said "cry harder uzi" while showing Alice torturing uzi. She didn't do anything 😭😭

Some others are saying pilot uzi is better and that uzi rn has changed. They're also saying she's a pick me.

The angsty uzi we know from the pilot had no one. She had no one to care for her, except for thad. That's until N showed up, and then V started to care for her in ep 6. Uzi just found people who actually cared for her and they're breaking her angsty teen shell.

also, @toomanyhyperfixationsinmybrain thanks for pointing out that Uzi is getting blamed for V's "death" We're not gonna forget that her arm got CHOPPED off and that shes getting possessed by the absolute solver. She was also laying down in the elevator because she was too weak since her arm got chopped off and the absolute solver possessed her for 5 seconds at least. Not just that, she coughed up BLOOD. Not oil. Uzi isn't at fault, Doll is.

[crowlhoard]

Solver discussion, but it contains info from episode 7, so I´ll put it under cut. 1/2

I wanted to organize my thoughts about the Absolute Solver in a written format, because it's still quite a mysterious entity.

This moment, so easy to miss, is when everything started

A broken worker drone, waking up under the pile of robot corpses, getting an offer from a mysterious entity. The patient zero - Cyn.

And I think that's what made her the main host - while we don't know how humans infected drones with Solver to study it, Uzi and Doll just inherited the programming, which allowed them to access Solver powers, they never were offered a deal. Which is probably why they are capable of fighting it, while Cyn seems under it's total control.

We, as viewers, never actually met Cyn - only her imitation by the Solver. And so we can't be sure that we ever saw actual Cyn, for all we know even in this moment in ep 2

it was already Solver Cyn. Another point for this theory: to both Cyn and Tessa, the entity promised to not discard them. And on the first glance it broke that promise to Tessa. But discard also means "to throw away". And Solver did the absolute opposite of that - it's under Cyn's chassis and Tessa's skin, they are the closest they can be, forever. So to Cyn it could have meant the same - "I won't throw away your body".

I specifically written 'Solver Cyn', because I'm not sure that Cyn/Tessa abomination and the Absolute Solver are the same entity. The reason for that starts in episode 2, where we meet the Spooky Holo Crab - who, unlike the now familiar skinsuit cosplaying drone, refers to itself in plural:

It also drops this little gem of lore, that seems to make more and more sense:

Interestingly, it also refers to J as a host as well

Which means all Disassembly Drones are also Solver hosts. Yet not all hosts are equal, since DDs themselves are created by the first host and nerfed to ensure her control over them

And that's why I think the Solver we saw in episode 2 is the closest to it's purest form, since it's host isn't present to affect it, but it's shackled by the directive given to it by Cyn, which is why it tried to repair J.

Thanks to the recent episode, we also know that humans were able to make a patch, which apparently blocked Solver possession, yet the subjects retained access to Solver powers. Which leads me to fortify my belief that Cyn/Tessa host isn't the same as the Absolute Solver.

The Absolute Solver is a hivemind, 'we', the source of those reality hacking powers. While Cyn/Tessa is the most affected host, and that's why she wants to eliminate all other hosts out of her control. Because if Cyn/Tessa was the Absolute Solver itself, this wouldn't be a problem for her

However, what Cyn/Tessa does have in common with the Absolute Solver - she likes to play with puppets, and she has favorites - team JVN.

But all 3 puppets require different approaches:

J's memories are redacted to suit current needs, in the Pilot she follows company's orders to disassemble worker drones on Copper 9, while her later clone helps "Tessa" investigate Cyn's orders, masked as company's orders. But her true character is now at the precipice as we are yet to see what she actually knows and whether she is aware who her actual boss is.

V is the one who seems to retain the most memories, and her obedience stems not from deception, but from fear:

And finally N - the most redacted of the team. Which is now obvious why - he is the favorite puppet, the one with the best reactions. But no-one can keep those levels of cheer under constant torture, so he needs to be reset the most.

[velvet-vox]

I just wanna preamble, that I'm really sorry towards all of my mutuals who really love Yeva as a character, but for me, I just can't come forward to liking her, and it's all for a simple reason:

Genuinely, why are we getting so much content with Yeva? Why did we need a flashback to the Core collapse when episode 7 was already crammed as it was? Why did we never see Yeva die on screen but saw his unnamed, barely mentioned husband get openly murked on screen? Why do Uzi and Doll treat each other like complete and utter strangers when Yeva should have been there to forge a connection between the two that would have spared us the plot and saved the entire colony in the process by uniting Uzi's resourcefulness and spirit of initiative with Doll's badassery and tactical mind?

I like Doll's dad. Liam clearly didn't bother to give him a name or a personality since he wasn't relevant to the plot, and of course, for Liam Vickers the plot comes before the characters, so him being dead doesn't really ring any alarm bells within me; he is very clearly intended to be a blank slate for the fans to latch on any head canon that suits their ways; he's a little bit of wasted potential, a trait that unfortunately he passed down to his daughter, but at least he doesn't really terrify me in any way that matters (especially since he would theoretically be Khan's foil. ....... Yeah).

But Yeva...... My god.

I shit you not when I say that to me, she's the scariest character in the entire show, way more terrifying than whatever any of that mid crap with the Absolute Solver or that lame ass body horror porn Cynesssa were.

Because to me, Yeva doesn't scare me in any physical, gorey matter, no: Yeva scares me in a psychological way.

Yeva is definitely being built up as this non impressionable, unfathomable badass, who has passed down to Doll all of her girlbossery and mastery of the Absolute Solver; she is the true caring mother between her and Nori, she was so good that Doll wanted to avenge her dead at any cost, she is so cool and strong that the patch worked on her flawlessly, and then proceeded to just completely mop the floor with a possessed Nori; Nori, that, may I remind you, was capable of fending off against a fully possessed Solver Uzi able to throw out copius amounts of black holes; the same Nori, who, as a core, ended that fight by slapping Uzi so hard that it created crumbling debris upon the impact; that Yeva was then killed by a solo hunting V, who has been shown multiple times to play with her food.

And the fandom somehow believes all of that?!?

Nobody is questioning just how sus any of this information is? Even if so many of the pieces when put together don't make any sense?

Do you remember these two shots from episode 6?

Aside from their questionable reliability considering the fact that Tessa was actually Cyn in disguise, don't you remember when we all speculated Nori to be more than a puppet and a possibly willing harbinger of death? I do. Never forgotten.

Now, I'm not jumping the shark and saying that Yeva is actually a manipulative monster, that would be extremely detrimental to the story; I'm saying that with all the parallelisms between the two families it's suspiciously weird that we aren't getting any noticeable narrative similarities between Nori and Yeva; because, you see, when I said before that Khan and Doll's dad weren't foils I actually lied:

In the Pilot, to protect the colony, Khan sacrifices Uzi to N and shuts a door behind him, refusing to shoot with the rail gun; in the flashback of Promening, to protect his daughter, Doll's dad shoots a photo of V to distract her, while Doll watches his dad sacrifice himself behind a door.

We just saw that Uzi's mother survived the attack of the Disassembly Drone (N) and turned into a crab. Now, I don't know all of you, but to me, N always seemed like the most efficient of the Disassembly Drones. His lack of empathy coupled with his low ego and self esteem made him a much more competent murderer than J or V, who were either too busy showboating or coping hard with the consequences of their violent actions; so for N to be unable to kill Nori while V was able to kill Yeva just seems like the most convenient writing decision possible.

(Convenient is a word used by Uzi to describe Doll's trap in episode 6)

Yeva absolutely creeps the f##k out of my brain, it's genuinely so unsettling seeing how much Liam Vickers has been playing up this character's current unimportance and getting away with it by the eyes of the community.

I don't know you all, but I haven't felt scared by Murder Drones at all ever since the Alice finger scene in episode 6. I was like, "cool Liam, do whatever you want, play up all the horror that you like, congratulations, I'm officially desensitized. Your cute little flesh iron puppy that you've been building up for a year barely stroked a dent into me" but I'm not like that with Yeva. Whenever a fandom starts to play up a character's innocence that's when my fight or flight reaction kicks in. I've been a fervent protester of indoctrination for all of my life, and that includes fandom culture and mob thinking; I ain't buying any of you all sweet Yeva crap until episode 8 rolls around.

[kitzani]

Possessor! Uzi AU

I just had a thought and I'm making an AU out of it.

After a while in space, Uzi unfortunately overheats and dies. So yeah, she's already dead. However, Cyn & the Absolute Solver make a deal with her. They'll let her have better control of her powers, a way back to Copper 9, and a guarantee that she'll see her loved ones again, in exchange for a bit of her soul.

Uzi reluctantly accepts. Now being Cyn's protégé (or something like that idk), she successfully returns to Copper 9. Because of her being just a ghost, the only way she can talk to others is to possess things. So at first, it's freaky when everybody sees Uzi in a different body, casually talking to them.

Remember when that deal was made between Uzi and Cyn? So that little soul bit Cyn took was Uzi's morality. The reason why that deal was made was because since Uzi was N and V's admin, and Cyn still needed control over the two, so she took away Uzi's morality so that she wouldn't question the bad decisions made.

And as planned, Uzi fell to Cyn's power as her apprentice, and turned evil. "But what about N and everybody else that Uzi loves?" Asked nobody but I shall answer anyway.

Because of her administration over N, she can control him directly, without any question. So occasionally Uzi will take over N, just to follow Cyn's orders.

This is really troubling for everybody, especially N himself. When he's being taken over, his own mindset will be transported to a sort of safe little area, where Uzi calls the "Mindspace". He just chills in the space, watching the horrors happening in the real world. He tries to talk Uzi out of it, to maybe help her get out of the Solver's control. It unfortunately doesn't work.

A pretty sad AU lol

(Edit: I forgot to mention a little fact that Uzi became the second primary host to the solver, so she has her own symbols and stuff but her actions are mostly driven from the Solver itself)

[aby55-of-the-ab5o1ute]

Gonna be burning out my brain today I think lol

Any Cyn headcanons?

CYN HEHEHEE

Cyn admired Tessa A LOT, N is her favorite drone because he was Tessa's (or at least it seemed that way). Her hair is styled similar to Tessa's, she likes bows because of Tessa, etc.

Cyn and the Absolute Solver ARE separate beings, there was a Cyn without the Absolute Solver. But Cyn has been PERMENTANTLY changed due to the AS. Even if she was separated from the AS somehow she wouldn't be the same as before.

Speaking of that, the AS and Cyn are fused. You can actually kinda see it in canon since Cyn's personality and speech patterns get dragged around even when the AS is possessing others. Sure, you can say its just the AS's personality but I like to think its Cyn :3

Cyn's relationships with J and V are complicated. Cyn never really got to completely know anyone during the manor due to the AS taking over her during that time. But she would probably see manor V as a safe space to vent to, while manor J she would probably fear a bit.

Going back to Cyn admiring Tessa. She basically sees Tessa as a god of some sort. Tessa literally rescued her from the garbage, gave her a home, a life. Sure the AS may have powered her back on, but Tessa REVIVED her.

Cyn will always have a soft spot for Tessa, no matter how much the AS takes over. That's why she doesn't discard Tessa after Tessa is killed. Instead Tessa is put to use. Even if Cyn can't revive Tessa the least she could do is not let the corpse go to waste.

Its not a lot but :3

[starryinkart]

This could’ve been a lot worst. And so much can be done with this, I really hope we get a Season 2!

Also if N now has protection from the actual solver, doesn’t that mean V does too since Uzi is also now her admin. Does that mean even if V did turn Holo Spooky Snake Crab, doesn’t that mean…

The solver can’t control her like it did with J in episode 2? Meaning Lizzy could’ve been texting V, just not the normal V. The V that is holo spooky and V still has her consciousness unlike holo spooky J?

Also the implications of this with N. If let’s just say the solver begins to develop in N like it did with Uzi and the other solver users, maybe it won’t get as bad as it did with Uzi, but it WILL activate, either by Uzis hand to help him fight or as a natural activation through repressed anger and tramua. So the solver may not be able to take control of N like it did with Uzi, but N has a different strain of the virus that could be immune to the solver possessing him. Meaning N has always been important to the solver, not for its own benefit but its own downfall.

Because if N develops a solver strain that can’t be possessed, than our Absolute Solver is sure gonna try to make sure he doesn’t survive the Copper 9 destruction and make it to another world where him and the ones left can plan to take it out once and for all.

Cue Episode 8 and possible Season 2 ideas possibilities. (Deffo talking about this concept more soon!)

oh my god

[zenosanalytic]

Theorizing Role: Seer of Life

strongman-freakshow:

Hey there! I was trying to look for some specific posts of yours and was having a bit of trouble. Do you have anything on the seer of life, specifically?

Hmmm, Not much, but I think Seer of Life is an interesting one, so I’ll give it a go.

Ok so a Seer of Life seems kind of tricky to me. Life tends to concern itself with practical matters(Biology, Wealth, Physical Ability, Acquisitiveness, Agency, Creativity) which don’t immediately lend themselves to precognition the way Aspects like Light, Mind, or Time do. According to Aradia’s formulation, a Seer of Life would be one who “Knows Life Comprehensively”(with Certain Important Provisos for how that might work, and for how one might Perceive of that working, I’d argue), and combining that with the concepts above certainly suggests a wide utility, but the primary Role Seers fill is identifying incoming threats and directing their team through or around them; where’s the foresight in “Knowing Life Comprehensively”? We haven’t seen many Life-powers in action, but Life has, on top of those already mentioned, all manner of Associations; it’s a rather abstract Aspect that seems at its core to most directly be about “The Ability to Do”[1]; though “Comprehensive Knowledge of Nebulous, Open-Ended Practicality” sounds like a fun approach to it, to me, in its own way :p Agency obvsl plays an important role in ”Doing” and, as a result, in Life-Hero stories[2]. Life-Players tend to be good Problem-solvers with a particular knack for thinking outside-the-box, and in-even-MORE-particular with finding ways to continue life, in some form or another, through any trial, even death; giving them a bit of a Sleeping Beauty/Orpheus&Eurydice/Persephone vibe(and I’d argue you really shouldn’t ignore the mythic aspect of Homestuck Titles u_u). 

So, given all that, I think one clarifying way of conceiving this would be to render the Aradia-description from “Knows Life Comprehensively”  to “Knows Doing Comprehensively” thence to “Knows Solutions Comprehensively”. “Comprehensive Knowledge of Solutions”(or, for the Colloquially minded, “How Do”) probably sounds really straight-forward, so let’s complicate it :p :p

Solution/=Good. The morality of a particular “Solution” lies in what it entails and its outcomes, not in its nature AS a “Solution”. The Solutions a Seer of Life Looks for, Sees, Chooses, and Directs others towards will depend on the Life-Seer’s own moral compass, and Life-Players haven’t exactly proven themselves conscientious in the maintenance of that particular piece of personal metaphysical kit(with the exception of Feferi, who was never but a Most Excellent and Totally Righteous Dude u_u u_u But that’s 1 out of 3 which is Not Gr8 Odds :T)

Solution is Big. Most problems can be solved, conservatively, in about 16 Million way, Most of them only minorly different, yet still distinct. The answer to “How Do?” can often approach a practical infinity. This seems both Overwhelming and Monotonous to me

Solution; Then What? Terezi can see vast webs of Decision and Causality; Rose the Objective “Fortune” value of any particular chain of events; but “Solutions” end at the problems they solve. As Above, so Below: Whar Foresight; Whar?

At the same time it also sounds a bit limited, so let’s expand it :p :p

Sight Bleeds. Rose isn’t limited to just knowing how “Fortunate” a plan will be, nor Terezi to only the “Choices” involved; they both See some varying level of detail of the specific events and those leading up to them, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to advise about and intervene in relevant events. So in all likelihood, a Seer of Life WOULD see both the specifics relevant TO, and probably those events immediate(and possibly circumstantially simultaneous) Of, said events and their Solution.

Aspects are Broad. Terezi can also effectively read Minds(because, you know Mind). Rose can look through solid objects(probably because visible or optical light isn’t the only KIND of “Light” out there. Emanations be both Numerous and Numinous u_u u_u u_u). All Aspects, regardless of what sources professing to be reliable in canon have claimed as their Boundaries, have displayed a vastness of meaning, ranging from the mundanely literal to the abstract, esoteric, and even mythical(which is to say: Wildly Subjective[early HS occasionally lampshades this subjectivity with variants of the phrase “personal mythos”]). So Life-Sight would probably cover all sorts of other stuff, connectable to “Doing/Solutions” but not immediately apparent as such. Most basically, the ability to See the Lifetimes of particular individuals or groups of individuals, which would effectively allow Seers of Life to See the future of those individuals(at least until they die), and necessarily the after effects of any particular Solution upon them. Not to mention the connections to Death, Life-After-Death, and Resurrection which all Life Players have shown, and how THAT, through ideas such as History, can apply to the “Life and Death” of ideas, events, and outcomes(not to mention their connection to temporally non-linear Dream Bubbles, and how that could be used for future-seeing).

“Know Comprehensively” is Big. What does it mean to “Know”? What does it mean to be “Comprehensive”? Early on Seers struggle to answer these questions without really realizing it, and plenty of others, as they struggle to master their Title, but successful Seers, unlike displacer beasts, don’t deal in approximate knowledge. If a Seer of Life’s Knowledge of How Do(and Life, and Wealth, and Agency, etc etc)can be said to be “Comprehensive”, then it seems very unlikely to me that their Sight, when mastered, wouldn’t given them some sense of(and thus control over) the ultimate outcome of the Solutions they choose. And as an aside, I’d bet they’d also be absurdly skillful in general(since Comprehensively Knowing a Solution means knowing how to carry it out), and just absolute Gangbusters at figuring out Alchemiter recipes.

On top of Title-development every Player faces personal challenges, of course, and these tend to share similarities between Classes and Aspect. Seers often struggle with self-confidence and self-worth, with maintaining Perspective on themselves, and issues of achievement(failed perfectionism in Rose and Terezi, and perhaps over-estimation[in response to fears of not fitting in or being excluded] with Kankri? It’s difficult to say given the limited material) often simultaneous to significant personal losses(Mom Lalonde’s murder; feeling compelled to kill Vriska for Terezi; again it’s difficult for Kankri, but how he pushes away Porrim may be his example). Aspect is frequently tied to all of this(I discuss how in This Post on Seers of Heart). So something tied to Life(perhaps the Seer’s own privileged position or, in a more Feferi-like take, the restrictive cloistering it brings) would cloud the Seer’s Perspective on events, and promote a crisis of confidence(most likely self-doubt, but given Kankri it’s possible OVER-confidence could also be a problem, particularly given the natural gifts and material condition Life-Players tend to possess), at a time when, due to the loss of relationships and people, they would be in a stressful and emotionally vulnerable place. And always, as mentioned above, there would be the temptation of taking the “easy” way; of putting themselves First, dismissing the equal being of others, and manipulating their friends into circumstances the Seer prefers, without consideration for their consent or well-being.

So Seers of Life would face a tough row to hoe. They’d have to learn how to sift through a staggering number of options to find the 8est(as they define it) Solution, with limited knowledge of where it could lead, all while being aware of how their own desires and moral flexibility can undermine the whole project while seeming to advance it and bring harm to the people they care for. But this isn’t really new. Perspective, Judgement, and Self-Awareness are vital to ALL Seers using their Sight effectively. While these challenges may be more vast and immediate for Seers of Life, they wouldn’t be fundamentally different from what all Seers struggle with. With time and focus and the patience to consider others instead of taking the quickest and shiniest roads, a successful Seer of Life would learn how to achieve clarity of purpose, and refine and focus their Sight with Knowledge of other facets of their Aspect. I think a Seer of Life is no less likely to be useful, and even game-breaking, than any of the more obviously Oraclely Aspects.

Ok that’s my general ideas about a Seer of Life; what about some specifics?

Aggrieving Anatomist

Let’s Take This Early Discussion on Seers of Life as inspiration(h/t to deliverusfromsburb and thegrimsqueaker ^v^ these are mostly their ideas). You could have a Seer of Life interested in Anatomy and Biology/BioChem, who likes martial arts movies and who, as a Life-Hero, is both preternaturally strong, and headstrong(and, tbf, given the 3 canon Seers, “Headstrong” could very well be a Seer trait as well :T). Based on their interests, they’d have a tendency to envision Solutions that involve the body and biological or chemical processes, and their personality would tend to bend this towards combat; either by seeking out combat theirself, leading others IN combat, or trying to teach others their ridiculous, biomantic fighting techniques(which, given how alchemiters allow Players to lend and merge their powers with those of their Friends, ought to be possible). I DO NOT think this would necessarily be a bad thing, both Rose and Terezi mix it up in HS, but this sort of Seer might have trouble letting themselves(or learning how to) delegate to others, and direct them along their own quests. Given the tendencies of Life Players, they may even go so far as to have a hard time conceiving of their Session as being bigger than their own Quests, and thus struggle with tunnel-visioning(though, given how The Game’s very structure interweaves Players’ quests together, there’d be plenty of stuff working to counteract that). 

Their powers could start as an encyclopedic and precise knowledge of anatomy, eventually developing(ala Rose and the 8-ball) into an x-ray-vision like ability to See anatomy directly, allowing for improbably devastating(and cinematic) blows in combat. Terezi’s Sight takes the form of interconnected Neurons stretching into infinity; Rose’s, what little we see of it, of and bursts of Revelation, Enlightenment, and Emanation; This Seer’s might eventually manifest as a vast system of Temporal Veins and Causal Nerves, as if they were Seeing the body of the Universe Frog itself from the Inside. They could trace each Vein to see where it blocks and withers(what events Doom that TL) then, working back from the Event-Clot, develop a Solution to clear or bypass it. By tracing the Nerves they could see how events outside the timelines interact with and direct the shape, direction, and operation of each Vein, and work out ways sever, limit, counteract, or manipulate that influence in what they consider a useful or “Healthy” direction. Through this Awareness of how those around them relate to the inner-workings of the Vast Croaker, they could identify which actors in their story play the role of “Antigens”, harming the Body-Realistic, using that knowledge to direct and counsel teammates, and plan their strategies. 

Chess Doctor

A Seer of Life interested in Medicine could share that sort of Life-Sight while having a totally different personality and approach. Meenah, Feferi, and Jane saw their cloistered lives as oppressive, but maybe this Seer isn’t really all that social or adventurous to begin with, and so doesn’t mind. So long as they have any book they want, the best tutors to teach them, and immediate easy authority, they’re perfectly fine with taking on the restrictions and responsibilities that go with them. This sort of Seer of Life would take naturally to the Role of strategist, observer, and advisor, focused less on personal combat than understanding the challenges facing them and developing solutions, but along with that could come a casual, condescending arrogance, and tendency for viewing others as instruments for their plans rather than people in their own right, which could cause just as many problems. Whereas the last Seer struggled with seeing the larger picture, this one would struggle most with understanding that THEIR views aren’t the only ones out there, nor necessarily the most important, nor the “right” ones.

Endless Observer

Another approach might be a more literal one; a People-Watcher. This Seer’s main interest would just be People, as a subject; the things they do, how they think, how they go about their Lives. While somewhat detached by their station and socially awkward as a result, they’d be filled with an infectious ------Enthusiasm for everything even vaguely anthropological: history books and films, documentaries, works of psychology, How-To Shows, ~Reality Television~, National Geographic; you name it. Maybe they’d have an EXHAUSTIVE LIBRARY, exhaustively read, of these SEMINAL TEXTS ensconced safely within the heart of their TASTEFULLY HUMBLE SUBURBAN MEGAPALACE 0u0 Whenever a problem comes up, they’d immediately have the know-how to solve it(and the best tools to solve it with, cost irrelevant). As an expression of this maybe they’d start with a maxed-out strifedeck and Robust, easily navigable Sylladex, or maybe they’d have a special Debit Card Sylladex Mode which stores only currency, but allows it to be converted to any item on request :p :p Or maybe(!) rather than a Sylladex Mode, they’re Strife Abstrata would be Cardkind and, like a suped-up version of Kanaya’s lipstick, their Card could be converted to a whole host of items on command.

This Seer’s powers might start off manifesting as having “coincidentally” just looked up a relevant subject right before the problem it could help solve arises. Rose’s viewing orbs expressed her interest in the occult so maybe this Seer would alchemize a Book or card-catalogue or How To Video which could provide information on any topic(or possibly a FLASH CARD TAROT, filled with detailed solutions). Perhaps the visualization of their Sight would be different, too; rather than Seeing through an anatomical model, they’d See a chattering ocean of flashing images or monitors containing every possible “life” branching from that point, which they could resolve, through concentration, into a picture of the problem they’re trying to solve, and the solution to it they like best. Maybe the very volume of their knowledge would begin to make it difficult for them to choose a solution, causing bouts of indecision(or physical pain). A fun branch from this idea could be having the Seer create a clone of themselves, or maybe some animate agent, to attempt alternate solutions or do the Seeing while they do the Doing, who eventually gets out of hand ala The Sorcerer's Apprentice. I could also see a Seer like this, so used to dealing with people as objects to be watched rather than equal people, developing problems with listening to and considering the needs of others, despite a friendly and positive demeanor.

Ok; I think that’s all I’ve got in me for a Seer of Life right now. I Hope it helps ^u^

[1]all the Life Heroes we’ve seen have been physically quite gifted, Convincing speakers, and born into Influence and Wealth

[2]Fef’s desire to be free of her hemocaste role, choosing of Sollux over Eridan, and negotiation with the HTs; Jane’s subliminal schooling by Condy, forced cyberization and mind-control, her inability to tell Jake of her romantic&sexual interest, her mistreatment of him while CrockerMaid; Meenah’s desire for power without responsibility, basically Everything she seems to have done in their Session(including the Cake and secretly murdering everyone so they wouldn’t be erased), and there’s def a discussion to be had about age and consent re: her rom with Vriska

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That's my question as well.

IF there ever was a real pre-Solver Cyn (since we as viewers have never seen her), perhaps her attachment to N influences fully possessed Cyn to keep N as her favorite puppet. I would also like to know how she came to be designated as N's little sister.

But even if there never was actual Cyn, I think the moment, when possessed V recognizes him instead of performing lobotomy, perfectly illustrates why he would catch its attention. The dude is literally so wholesome that it breaks people out of eldrich possession. And I don't think that an entity with 'Absolute' in its name would let any slight against its power go unpunished.

just wanted to put this slight study of the Solver and N out cuz its been a while since i absolutely LOVED and HATED a written villain with PASSION- the Solver has been written as such a messed up NON living entity that has its own symbolisms while disregarding life and cultures of the living that seeing it try to imitate human related social ques and values makes it the true epitome of alien horror.

also if you ship Cyn and N you are sick and seriously in need of a psych ward, straitjacket and a padded room. do not interact with me.

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Oh MY GOD. No I forgot about this!!!

That really does mean that if there is a Season 2, it most likely will start off without N, or having to save him from the solver if he sacrifices himself. We’ll most likely follow Uzi, V (if she comes back as a clone), J (and Tessa if she isn’t the solver) to get rid of it once and for all. N may come back as a clone, but N was called useless ALOT in the beginning and from what J said “useful drones were cloned more” , this may imply that N is the only back up that is available of him (that isn’t like a normal manufactured version as confirmed to be many by Liam at Glitch X) or there are others but at the price of losing all his memories again, so saving the N we’ve had since the Pilot becomes ALOT more of importance. There’s a chance N can’t be replaced like V and J.

Of course losing her lover to either sacrifice or her not being able to control the solver possessing her in time will most likely change Uzi as a character to not be as comically edgy, but more of a serious edgy sadness. She is definitely going to look more worn, either from the stress or sleepless nights of trying to stop the solver on her own and/or get N back/ blame herself. Hopefully we will have V to help her, if she hasn’t lost her memories (which I doubt because she most likely has backups), get through the blame of temporarily losing N and having the solver take over/spread. J will get more character development and hopefully see Uzi as a friend at some point, and N in a different light, maybe getting her memories back fully too. As for Tessa, if she isn’t controlled or a hologram of the solver, she will most likely come into play too, and hopefully Uzi and her and can bond with their backgrounds being sort of similar, outcasted, neglected and weird personalities.

At Glitch X, it was stated there was a reason either the DDs ship that Uzi fixed or Tessa’s ship was important, and honestly my theory is that the solver is going to find a way to get off Copper 9. I was thinking, why would the solver tell the DDs to build the spires and then come down to the labs?

Perhaps, and this is just a theory, the spires are made of all sorts of mechanical parts of drones and likely ALOT of other materials. Metal is a conductor of electricity, and has been used to be able to beam things to other places not only in media but in real life (think of satellites). Maybe the solver plans to escape Copper 9, after getting rid of all the obstacles in its way, such as the Absolute Solver infected drones like Uzi and Doll, by using the spires metal and beaming its program to the last remaining planet that has humanity to rid of them. Think about it, it was mentioned that the reason why the way the humans look have been redacted to the drones, and it would be revealed as to how/why at some point in the series, so why not wait to get to a planet with humans to do that reveal. This could mean that Uzi and the others will have to go off world from Copper 9, possibly save N, if he has either become a host of the solver or has sacrificed himself and is still present in some way, as well as try to stop the solver once and for all!

Another thing I thought about, the spires could also be used to make a monstrous host for the solver to take control of, make Copper 9 it’s base and make its army of controlled drones from the Colonies on Copper 9. Plotting to get to the last remaining human planet system and kill them all.

Alternatively if Uzi gets fully possessed by the solver and N is the one to survive instead, the solver controlled Uzi could use one of the ships present on Copper 9, most likely either Tessa’s or the one she fixed, to get off world and kill all humans/gain and army under the disguise of a small insignificant worker drone to the humans eyes. This could mean N is the one to save Uzi from the solver with possibly V and the others, seeing changes in his personality instead and eventually stopping the solver with Uzi in the end once and for all.

Lastly, the solver could get Copper 9 under its control, leaving Uzi and the others to flee, not knowing that the ship is carrying a strain of the solver parasite, waiting to land on the human planet they travel to and start the final part of its plan to destroy humanity and become the absolute fabric of reality.

There’s so many ways it could go! But to be honest, I don’t think they would make center piece merch of characters who were just going to stay dead forever. N has ALOT of merch and I’m guessing not just for fan service, as well as V and Uzi. While we can still have a bad ending, and Liam said he likes bad endings, it could be that the Season just has a bad ending while the Series as a whole could have a good one! It was constantly being stated that it was the “Episode 7 and 8 of the Season 1 Finale” at Glitch X, and it’s heavily implied that they had ALOT more ideas for the series that are still on the backburner, but not gone, such as Murder Drones running low on oil as an idea and a lot of the questions such as “Is V coming back?” and other similar ones we’re skipped during the Q/A. So don’t give up hope yet, and we’ll see in Spring (even though it feels so far away 🥺 it’ll be worth the wait! And tears! That quality from the teaser looks spectacular!!)

Uh guys Liam might have foreshadowed a scene 1 year before we actually got to see it

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I know I'm a bit late on this but I managed to watch the episode when it came out so here's what I got right and what I got wrong:

-Truce between Tessa, J, N, V and Uzi to stop the absolute Solver. Doll just ditched the group for her own personal benefit lmao

- More Background info about Cabin Fever labs: I may have gotten that wrong since we never got to see the labs themselves which I assume is where the elevator leads to at the end of the episode.

- Who's controlling the Raptor Drones?: They're called Sentinels and aren't really controlled by anyone. They were just used as a last resort protocol to eliminate all Drones.

- More info about Nori: According to Alice (the Wendigo Drone), Nori left her and the other workers for dead after the core collapsed (which may have been caused by her).

-Sadly Thad didn't make an appearance other than the absolute Solver who took Cyn as a host (according to Tessa) possessing Uzi.

Some predictions for episode 6 before the actual premiere because I'm bored AF but Hyped as hell!!!

- Truce between Tessa, J and Doll and Uzi, N and V to stop the absolute solver

- More background info about Cabin Fever labs

- Who's controlling the Raptor Drones

- More info about Nori (like who really stabbed her)

- Maybe Cyn makes an appearance (or Thad)

Either way I'm hyped!!! See y'all tomorrow 👋

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People have varying theories on the finer details, but this is the general gist of the plot in chronological order (this ended up pretty long, sorry):

The Elliots (Tessa's family) is evidently rich and influential on Earth, with a large estate and mansion, and a large number of worker drones as a household workforce. The Victorian style was evidently in fashion for them, at least during that part of the 31st century. Aside from that, anachronism is just part of the style of the show and its humor (VHS tapes, floppy disks, etc.).

Worker drones are intended to be shutdown and dismantled in a specific manner after disposal in order to avoid corrupted AI, or at least to avoid the associated fines. For the rich and influential, either the fines are not enforced, or they can be accepted as a cost of doing business, since it seems large number of drones are not being disposed of properly.

Tessa routinely visits a drone dumping ground to find drones to repair as pets. This is how she acquires J, N, V, and Cyn (as well as a number of other drones, we can assume).

Cyn, after not being disposed of properly, rebooted from "software death" on her own, still inside the dump. At this point, the absolute solver program mutated within her / corrupted her / possessed her / used her empty body for itself / insert theory here. Tessa then finds her and brings her to the mansion.

Cyn / The Absolute Solver (hereafter referred to just as Cyn) has the ability to manipulate matter. She is a godlike being and this is essentially a cosmic horror setting. She uses her power, her illusions, and trickery to massacre everyone in the Elliot estate during a gala, including Tessa. She hacks, manipulates, and rebuilds the drones into murder machines, and wears the remains of Tessa's body over her own body ("I will not discard you"). She goes on to attack and consume the rest of Earth. The solver requires matter to manipulate, it can't work off of nothing. Cyn is therefore extremely hungry, and seeks new matter to consume.

Humans on Copper 9 (The exoplanet most of the story takes place on) saw the results on earth. A team of scientists working underground try to replicate the abilities of the absolute solver for their own purposes (Defense against Cyn? Greed? Hubris?). They experiment on a large number of drones, including Nori 002 (Uzi's Mom), Yeva 048 (Doll's Mom, the Russian girl), and Alice 017 (The cannibal drone underground in episode 6). Most either fail or are corrupted and destroyed.

Yeva successfully develops Solver powers, and is successfully patched. Nori successfully develop Solver powers, and is remotely possessed by Cyn. Cyn destroys the research team, but Yeva and the intern Mitchell manage to patch her as well. A remnant of Cyn's power still manages to half destroy the planet anyway, wiping out biological life. Nori (and Yeva, probably) were too close to ground zero and had their memories scrambled, and ended up on the surface.

The worker drones on the planet are glad to no longer be under the oppressive rule of the humans, and start creating their own society. Nori meets Khan, Uzi's father, and Yeva meets Doll's father. Nori tells Khan to create some defense against Cyn, though indirectly since her memories are still probably scrambled. ("Build doors against the coming sky demons", etc.)

At some point, Uzi and Doll are born, this may have been after the next point. They inherit the solver powers from their parents, but not the patch.

Cyn sends several teams of murder drones, including J, V, and N. She allows these three to retain more of their original personalities for her own amusement. They proceed to murder all the worker drones they can find and build spires out of their corpses. Most of the teams then begin searching for the underground lab that Nori and Yeva were part of.

Khan's colony survives thanks to his defense preparations. At some point Nori is attacked by murder drones. Khan "kills" her to put her out of her misery after she gets poisoned by nanite acid, but her "heart" survives and goes to search for the lab as well.

Solver infected drones, by way of matter manipulation, can repair themselves, and can survive as just a heart/core. The "meat" is another expression of the solvers powers. On the level of molecular matter manipulation, the difference between meat and circuitry is mostly academic. Thus, Nori survives what should have been death.

Yeva and her husband are also murdered at some point by V. Yeva's heart does not survive as far as we know.

Uzi grows up neglected by her father and her peers. She decides to fight the murder drones, both to do something proactive and to earn status.

Doll's solver powers awaken at some point, and she refines them with the goal of getting revenge on V for her parents' deaths.

Uzi finishes her gun, she shoots N's head off, and he regenerates. The rest of episode 1 happens. Uzi kills J, and decides to take revenge on humanity, who she still believes are the ones who sent the murder drones to Copper 9.

J's solver powers, controlled by Cyn, attempt to regenerate her. Episode 2 happens, and this instance of the Solver is killed during confrontation with Uzi and N.

Doll and Lizzy come up with a plan to lure V into and ambush, involving granting her the title of prom queen as a distraction. Doll murders all other candidates as part of the plan. Uzi and N save V, and V "kills" Doll, but her solver powers regenerate her. Uzi's solver power also awakens, and Doll learns about it. She promises to help Uzi with the patch if she finds it and leaves. Cyn and a revived copy of J arrive on the planet, with Cyn disguised as Tessa. This was episode 3.

Uzi learns about the lab collars from Khan, and that he met Nori and Yeva at Camp 98.7. She heads there to investigate, looking for more answers. Episode 4 happens, and Uzi starts succumbing to the hunger the absolute solver inflicts on those infected with it. Uzi also finds a "key bug" that can grant access to the hidden labs.

Afterward, Cyn starts reasserting control over N and V as their administrator, trying to delete resurfacing memories to keep them in line. Uzi hacks into them herself, and they relive some memories of the gala massacre on Earth. Uzi makes herself administrator of N and V instead, shielding them from Cyn's direct influence. During this, Doll manages to steal the key bug from Uzi, who gives it up in exchange for focusing on saving N and V. This was episode 5.

Uzi and the gang find "Tessa" and J. Doll is in the process of giving them the key bug in exchange for help entering the lab. Doll rethinks her deal and takes the bug back, fleeing underground. "Tessa" recruits the others and secretly sends J to destroy any other ways off the planet.

The rest of episode 6 follows after. Cyn seems to start hacking Uzi while they go, mostly to manipulate N. V stays behind to hold of the sentinels and allows N and Uzi to use the secret elevator.

Episode 7: Nori finally finds the patch usb-crucifix, and encounters N being toyed with by Cyn. She rescues N and they both go searching for Uzi to patch her. Uzi finds the church and starts investigating the records Nori obtained. Cyn then finds the experiment archives and destroys them. Doll fights her and is shredded. Doll staggers to the church and collapses near Uzi. Cyn follows close behind and tries to kill Uzi. N stops her and "kills" her. Cyn hacks Uzi and destroys the patch, then tries to kill N and Nori, but Uzi manages to fight her off at the end with parental rebellion.

Cyn then regenerates her body and eats Doll's heart, then tries to eat the planet. Uzi saves N from the pit and falls in herself. The pit explodes, sending Uzi, Nori, and quite a bit of debris to various heights. Episode 8 happens and Uzi defeats the cosmic horror by eating its core. The Absolute Solver and/or Cyn survive inside of Uzi. The End.

I ended up leaving out a lot of the specific details in the later parts here, because they were self-evident (Khan fixing the gun, etc.), and I didn't want this to get too long. Hopefully this helps clear up some aspects of the plot!

Can some benevolent soul explain me what the hell was Murder Drones about in the end? Because like at first episode the whole deal was that main characters wanted to destroy humanity for trying to destroy them, but at the end it's some kind of fantasy with zombie-girl with cyber-magic somehow destroying an entire planet with space tentacles, like what the hell? It's like a genuine request, the fuck is happening? Whos the Russian girl? Why in cybernetic future there were Victorian mansions and top hats? Why robots have meat? I don't understand neither plot nor world building.