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TROS junior novelization: âStay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promiseâ + some post-TROS era thoughts
Iâve been writing a big ass post compilating all of the âStay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promiseâ throughout the books up until TROS and analyzing them, and I wanted to wait for my TROS junior novelization to arrive to keep building it and post it but Iâm just too excited because THE VOICE IS BACK so I gotta talk at least about this
Some days ago I did a post (which you can check here) talking and speculating about the TROS junior novelization and how it was upon us, and that I couldâve misunderstood the voice in the TLJ junior novelization (I talked about the voice months ago, compiling the parts where it appears in the TLJ junior novelization, here), and funnily, I HAD misunderstood it but at the same time I HADNâT
The reason? Yes, the âStay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promiseâ was a coping mechanism of Rey... but there was more to it, something I started to suspect again after reading pre-TROS some more times a certain fragment from the TLJ junior novelization where âthe voiceâ and the phrase were mentioned
The TROS junior novelization may look like it has lots of yikes for what I saw on some pages floating around, but look at THIS (analysis below):
âThe Force surrounds you, Rey. Feel the Force flowing through you, Rey. Let it lift you. We stand by you, Rey.
Rey, the Force will be with you, always.
There were so many up thereâso many stars, so many voicesâRey could not keep track. But there was a light inside her that shone brighter and spoke louder than all the others.
Stay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promise.
She looked deep into that light and saw there were two. A binary star. And though the voice that said those words was her own, the love behind them was not.â
Okay, so, first of all: *unholy pterodactyl screeching of excitement*
For what it seems, each voice in the World Between Worlds (because yes, this is the WBW, the descriptions of this scene in the TROS non-junior novelization just leaves no room for doubt:Â âthe battle above disappeared. Instead, Rey saw a perfect sky, vast with stars. Peaceful. Light-filled. It was like she was staring through a window to somewhere else, a place between places.â [...] âMore voices came at her fast but gentle, as though she lay at a confluence of the Force, possibilities, futures and pasts all stretching away from her, or maybe leading toward her. The cosmos, time, energy, beingânothing was the way sheâd thought it was.â [...] âPresences filled her awareness, some recent, some ancient, some still anchored to the living in a strange way. Rey didnât understand. But she accepted.â) corresponds with a light... and when Rey peers into a light inside of her which is brighter and louder than all the others, she hears the phrase AND sees the light is A BINARY STAR
... So, a light brighter than the restâwhich is fitting with Benâs description in the TROS non-junior novelization, where itâs said that his light is so bright it helps Rey resist Palpatineâs influence: âRey continued to approach. His power was intoxicating. She found herself raising her weapon, almost against her will. If not for the other presence in her mind, bright and shining with light, she would not have been able to resist him."
And that light inside her, brighter than the rest, being like a binary starâwhich fits as well, and only with, Rey and Ben being one in the Force
And apparently the words were hers, but the love behind them was notâso, Benâs feelings echoing through their Dyad bond (and the WBW? Through both?) across time and space because a Dyad bond (just like the Force) cares not for such boundaries
Also if I remember well (need to find the pic or get a photo myself when the novel arrives), in the TROS junior novelization, when Ben and Rey are circling each other in the hangar of the Star Destroyer (on Kijimi) theyâre described like in a way that looks pretty much like a binary star reference
Iâve been basking in all of this for days, even though thinking itâs Ben basically sends me back to the heavy feels lol
I mean, these words Rey repeated to herself for 14-15 years seem to be (it only makes sense to be) echos of Ben (of hope) from the future, and that helped her survive and cope with her own pain and despair... Iâm not okay your honor
And thereâs just no way it can be anyone else but Ben, given all of this and the contexts. Iâve read comments saying maybe it could refer to her parents or even Luke and Leia, but... it just doesnât fit? The light is INSIDE Rey, brighter than the rest, and itâs a binary star. Itâs simply Rey and another person, and that other person can only be Ben, her soulmate
The best thing is that they actually could use this to bring Ben back to Rey if they wanted, because they didnât go very deep into the theme of the Dyad AND when the WBW is involved ANYTHING could happen (and itâs not as if these could be the only methods to bring someone back)
To quote the TFA junior novelization: âRey did not want the owner of the voice to come back. She wanted the speaker to stay.â
Disney/Lucasfilm have a golden opportunity now to either cast the group again for a live-action or animated series, or a movie (or movies), fixing stuff. Itâs not gonna make TROS go away nor fix it all, but thereâs A LOT of stuff that could end up in a WAY better place than it ended up in TROS, and Iâm pretty sure if they pick up some people that know what theyâre doing and the premise is good, the cast would want to be back to fix the mess
If they canât get the cast, just... do an animated series. Or, heck, if it could be done, both would be soooo amazing? (Although I donât think weâd end up with both, if we end up with something itâll be one or the other I think) A movie would be ideal to fix stuff, but a series (live-action or animated) would be ideal for something that could go on for a long time with new adventures. DLF could just attract back so many fans (including the new ones, which they should know already are vital to keep a franchise alive) that theyâve pushed away with TROS
I mean, look, if even my lizard brain can come up with viable ideas on how to fix so many mistakes from TROS, DLF certainly can, and thereâs people with the talent AND care to do it, so... yeah
Weâre getting some WBW mentions (and things that could be hints too) after TROS, other characters have been able to come back from worse and less vague deaths, we still donât know what a Dyad bond is fully capable of *coughs in suspicions that The High Republic might show some of this and maybe serve as a preamble to Benâs return*, a good post-TROS fix is absolutely needed, and DLF would make an obscene amount of money if they brought Ben back and did a post-TROS mending a lot of things, so right now Iâm proceeding with cauting and keeping my feet on the ground just in case, but my hopes are kinda going up
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Canon Catchup
With TROS coming out soon, Iâve been doing a lot of catchup on canon material that Iâve missed, particularly that which I think will be most relevant either for the movie or for Resistance Reborn (which I finished yesterday and will talk more about below). I will avoid major spoilers, as excited as I may be about some of them, haha, but I wanted to write out a few of my thoughts here while theyâre fairly fresh.
A Crash of Fate by Zoraida CĂłrdova and Galaxyâs Edge by Delilah Dawsonâthese donât seem quite as relevant to TROS, but I read these two Galaxyâs Edge tie-in novels a few months ago and I thought Iâd say a few words. I REALLY enjoyed the A Crash of Fate; it was such a lovely, heartwrenchingly beautiful story that reminded me a little of Lost Stars in the way that it focused in on a friendship/romance between two people who wouldnât ever be main characters in the movies. The story was told primarily over the span of a single day, and wow did I not expect my heart to be pulled in so many different directions. Definitely one I will read again and again.Â
Iâm not sure Iâll do the same with Galaxyâs Edge. It was a super fun read, with some great, Indiana Jones-like action sequences, and Iâd recommend giving it a go especially if youâre planning on ever going to Galaxyâs Edgeâbut it also had a few seriously problematic elements that I just couldnât overlook. For one, NO WAY is Leia going to force Vi to work closely with someone who tortured her, and speaking of torture, many black people have already commented on the problematic nature of the excessive violence Vi undergoes in this book.
TFA and TLJ Junior Novelizations by Michael KoggeâI wanted to get a refresher on these stories, and since Iâd never read the junior versions, I decided to give them a try. Overall I enjoyed these quite a bit. The TFA one was way better imho than the adult novelization by Alan Dean Foster, and both had some really meaningful character moments. There was one Leia scene at the end of the TFA one that brought me to tears.
Aftermath: Life Debt and Aftermath: Empireâs End by Chuck WendigâIâd originally read the Aftermath trilogy as each book was released, but with everything I was hearing about Resistance Reborn, AND with the return of Palpatine in TROS and the promise of finally figuring out whatâs been going on in the Unknown Regions, I thought it was a perfect time to revisit it. I skipped the first one (my least favorite of the three, and also my copy is in a box somewhere from when we moved last and the libraryâs audiobook copies were checked out) and read a synopsis instead to refresh my memory, then dived straight into Life Debt. Both of these books were as good or better than I remember them. I enjoyed them the first time, but I enjoyed them even better this time around. I feel like theyâve gained even more significance now. My HanLeia shippy heart is happy with some of their scenes, and also I rediscovered that I absolutely adore and would probably die for Norra, Wedge, Jas, Sinjir, Temmin, and crew.
Spark of the Resistance by Justina Irelandâthis was a super cute but ultimately rather forgettable junior novel. The best part about it was seeing Rey, Poe, and Rose interacting. I may revisit it sometime after TROS and see if my unexpectedly skyrocketing feels for these characters (see below) makes it better.
The Poe Dameron comic runâIâd previously read the first trade (Black Squadron), the third (Legend Lost), and maybe a tiny bit of the second (The Gathering Storm), and aside from a really poignant bit in Legend Lost I just didnât find myself very invested. This time around, however, flipped that on its head. Trades 4 and 5 (Legend Found and The Spark and the Fire) completely did me in, and without warning, I found myself 100% invested in Black Squadron. Poe, Jess, Snap, KarĂ©, Suralinda, and Lâulo have officially joined the Aftermath crew in my list of characters I would die for. I just want all my babies to be okay! There were numerous moments in those last two trades (including the AMAZING Annual #2, a must-read for HanLeia new canon fans) which made me cry. Iâm not even joking. So good. Well done, Charles Soule.
Resistance Reborn by Rebecca RoanhorseâBuckle up because I have a lot to say! I HIGHLY recommend reading the Aftermath trilogy, Bloodline, the Poe Dameron comics, and watching the Battlefront II campaign (which I talked about in another post) before reading this because HOLY MOLY. You wonât be lost if you donât, but it will mean so much more to you if you do. Speaking of crying, I literally lost count of the moments that brought me to tears, and so many were significant because of how all the stories I mentioned and more have been so beautifully interconnected in this one. Wedge and Norra, Zay and Shriv, and so many othersâeach was given their due and it was amazing. One characterâs surprise appearance had me practically on my knees with joy and heartbreak all at once, and I would say more but Iâm really trying to keep that promise not spoil you, haha.Â
If the Poe Dameron comic werenât enough to win me over, this book has officially cemented Poe as one of my favorite sequel trilogy characters. Tbh, Iâve had trouble feeling much of a deep connection with any of the sequel trilogy leadsâI love them, sure, but not like Leia, Han and Luke, the trio I grew up with. Iâve wanted to love them more, Iâve wanted to be more invested in them, but it just hasnât happened. Iâm really glad I read this book before TROS, because I think this has changed that. I was definitely getting a few OT golden trio vibes with Rey, Finn, and of course, my Boiâą Poeâexcept theyâre completely their own characters, and Iâm really starting to love them for who they are.
Overall, I absolutely loved this book, it felt really meaningful, and I canât wait to read it again.Â
That being said, when I finished it yesterday I felt a little bit disappointed, like it tasted a little bit bittersweet. Iâm still trying to figure out why that is, but I think it may be down to three things:Â
1) Though there were a number of fantastic character reveals, there were some obvious people absent and I canât help but wonder where they are. I hope theyâre not dead. I hope TROS includes some of these characters, too. I hope we get the rest of their stories either way.
2) The book is way too short. Especially on the heels of the Aftermath trilogy, this feels like only the first act of at least three. The ending comes way too soon, just after it really seems to get going. This I donât blame the author or the publishers for at all; they are very limited, after all, in what they can portray leading up to TROS. But it really left me longing for more. This book had such a wonderful focus on character, but in the end, I wanted to see the character arcs get even more resolved than they do here... but I guess they really couldnât be, and thatâs what TROS is for. I just hope the movie does it well! I need all these people to be okay <3
3) It doesnât shy away from grief, struggle, and the mental cost of war. Honestly, thatâs part of why I love it so much, but I think thatâs also part of why it left me feeling a little melancholy. The Resistance is in such a seemingly hopeless place, and while things do get better over the course of the book, thereâs still such a terribly long way to go.The First Order rains merciless terror on anyone or any planet who gives even the slightest hint of opposing them or of aiding the Resistance. The whole galaxy is afraid. Poe struggles deeply with guilt and with how to make up for the horrible mistakes he made in TLJ (this is not brushed off in the slightest, not by the book or by the characters in it, and I appreciate that). Rey is confused and still unsure of her place in things. Characters are faced with the fact that they will almost certainly die because of their choice to join the Resistance, and itâs heavy. And Leia. Oh, Leia. I am deeply grateful to Roanhorse for her very realistic portrayal of Leia as someone who has lost so incredibly much (most recently her husband and brother), most definitely has PTSD, and probably is dealing with a bit of depression. Leia is weary. Leia struggles to keep stepping forward, struggles to figure out the next step for those she leads. Leia struggles to keep hoping. The battle between hope and despair in the face of terrible loss and terrible odds is very much felt in this book. But as ever with Leia, hope always wins in the end. By the end of the book, you can still feel the struggle, but hope wins.Â
I think that because I personally relate so much to Leia, reading some of that was hard. Not because I feel like itâs contrary to who Leia is, but because I resonate with it so much and because it reminds me in a particularly strong way of some of the struggles Iâve dealt with that Iâd like to forget. Itâs no wonder that my heart felt heavy after I closed the book. But along with that, I also see how Leia perseveres, how sheâs finally gotten to a place where she lets herself rely on and be comforted by others, and how she accomplishes the seemingly impossible just because she damned well refuses to give in to despair, no matter how tempting it may be. It reminds me that I, too, can accomplish incredible things despite all my struggles, despite the odds stacked against me.
Anyway, I highly recommend this book. Resistance Reborn hasnât quite come up to the level of Bloodline or LPOA in my personal ranking, but with future rereads, it very well might someday.Â
This bookâalong with all of this readingâhas put me even more on the edge of my seat for TROS than I was before, if thatâs possible. I desperately want it to be the best ending possible for the Skywalker Saga and for all these characters whoâve become so beloved to me. Iâm trying to temper my expectationâTFA still isnât especially my jam, after all, and while overall Iâm a fan of the ST (the TROS trailers made me cry, for goodness sakes), I have a somewhat complicated relationship with it in generalâbut goddammit, Iâm hoping anyway. Thereâs so much beautiful setup in the new canon EU, such a deliberate focus on character, and so many hints that this might reach through the whole saga and bring together something bigger than we can imagine.Â
Iâm hoping anyway.
#A Crash of Fate#Galaxy's Edge book#TFA#TLJ#TFA junior novelization#TLJ junior novelization#Aftermath trilogy#Aftermath: Life Debt#Aftermath: Empire's End#Spark of the Resistance#Poe Dameron comic#Resistance Reborn#Battlefront II#SW books#SW comics#Star Wars#SW meta#SW review#thoughts#I also caught up on some of the latest Star Wars comic line#but I'll write about that in another post
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âShe joined him in the combat against the guards, and they made the most formidable pair.â
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TLJ Junior Novel - Second Force Bond Scene
Discerning Renâs presence, the girl hissed
âMurderous Snake!â
Her recognition solidified their bond, she could see him and Ren could see her as if they existed in the same place.
He went toward her. Rain ran down her face
âYouâre late,â she said. âYou lost,I found Skywalker!â
âAnd hows that going?â Ren asked with a chuckle âHas he told you what happened? The night I destroyed his temple? Has he told you why?â
âI know everything I need to know about you.â
âYou do?,â Ren mused âYes, you do, you have that look in your eyes from our little forest duel when you called me a monster.â
Rey stood firm âYou are a monster.â
âYes,â he said âI am.â
Ren broke the connection opening his eyes. He was alone again in the ready room, but his affirmation about himself lingered in his mind.
A monster...indeed that is what he had become
Beads of moisture tingled his scar. He wiped his face and noticed his glove was also dripping wet as if he had been outside with Rey.
He clenched his fist, wringing out the rain
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Their eyes met, and Rey saw in Kylo Ren the good person he wanted to be.
The Last Jedi junior novelization
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Here are the color images from the junior novelization of TLJ. Not really any new images (but ayyy at the image of the thigh grab scene). Sorry for the glare and my ugly fingers in the way.
#star wars#the last jedi#reylo#tlj novelization spoilers#tlj junior novelization#tlj junior novelization spoilers
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"But the resulting scar would be a constant and painful reminder of what she had done to him. It would fuel his hate. It would motivate his vengeance."
.....How's that going? đ
"You're not alone."
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In Kylo Ren, Luke saw the shadow of his own father as a young man -- and what he himself could have become if had not been allowed to grow up as a farm boy on Tatooine.
-- text from The Last Jedi Junior Novelization, art from The Last Jedi Storybook
#the last jedi#kylo ren#star wars#tlj novelization#tlj junior novelization#luke skywalker#ben solo#tlj novelisation spoilers#novelization spoilers#i'm definitely NOT IN PAIN
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TLJ Novelization Dialog Hinting at the Backstory?
Posted this on the blog yesterday, but itâs worth pointing out here.
Written by robotical712
As a rule, Jason Fry's novelization generally sticks pretty closely to the dialogue in the movie. There are some exceptions, the scene in the library between Luke and Rey has some additional lines as does the second lesson. However, one difference in particular has caught my attention:
âRey,â Kylo said, speaking her name like it was poison. âYour chosen one. Chosen over me. She aligned herself with the old way that has to die. No more Masters. I will destroy her, you, and all of it. Know that.â (p. 304)
This dialog comes during the confrontation between Luke and Kylo Ren. Only the bolded line is actually in the movie. Now, Fry may have added the extra lines on his own, however the dialogue in the rest of the scene matches the movie exactly and the junior novelization has a lot of the same extra dialog:
âRey,â Kylo Ren said, snarling at her name. âShe made her choice. She aligned herself with the old way that has to die. I will destroy her and you and all of it. Know that.â
So itâs highly likely both instances came from earlier versions of the script. Now, what caught my attention is this part:
Your chosen one. Chosen over me.
In the context of when itâs said, it makes little sense. First, Luke did anything but choose Rey in the movie, instead doing his best to push her away. Whatâs more, Kylo knows this because he was in contact with her the entire time. Second, Kylo considers Luke an enemy and wants to kill him, why would Luke choose him for anything? The line doesnât make any sense with the situation or what we know. Therefore, it must refer to information we donât know.
As we know, Kylo has galaxy sized entitlement issues and heavily resents his family. The âChosen over me.â line suggests Luke made a choice that Kylo was highly jealous of at the time. Perhaps jealous enough to âloseâ both his fatherâs beloved ship and his five year old cousinâŠ
#Star Wars#The Last Jedi#TLJ#TLJ Novelization#TLJ Junior Novelization#Books#Kylo Ren#Rey#Luke Skywalker
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Okay, soooo *rubs hands together* Now that I have the TLJ junior novelization, let's get to something very important:
it reveals the origin of the âStay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promiseâ
First of all, I have to say that I found out that reveal accidentally little ago before getting the novelization, thanks to this lovely Reylo art post over here , and it totally hyped me up (and made me cackle because I was writing a highly speculative fic piece that could kinda fit with this)
For those who donât know, both in the TFA junior and non-junior novelizations, when Rey touches (or gets close to it, depending on the version) the legacy lightsaber and she sees the vision, what we see in the movie isnât 100% what happens in the novelizations: in the books she also hears a familiar voice, described in interesting ways, telling her âStay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promiseâ, among some other changes
The TFA non-junior novelization has this, and the TFA junior novelization describes it too, but it also has minimum another moment where Rey thinks of this (I havenât fully read the novels for now, so there might be more Iâm unaware of as of now)
And this is where TLJ makes things interesting: thereâs no mention of this in the movie, just like in TFA, and as far as Iâve read on the TLJ non-junior novelization thereâs no mention there eitherâbut the junior TLJ novelization has, at least, FOUR scenes where these phrases and Reyâs past appear
Sounds interesting? Well... buckle up guys, because this is going to be long (like... very long, because there are lots of paragraphs from the novelization, and then some discussion/speculation/theorizing) and itâs gonna end up in much feels for Rey (also, Iâll highlight some important or curious things):
CHAPTER 7
âThe island was haunted. Rey was sure of it.
She stood outside Lukeâs hut and watched the fog roll across the village. The haze was thick and held an eerie pre-dawn glow. She had the vague impression that something lurked within those mists. Specters whispering secrets from a long-lost time.
Stay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promise.
The voice startled her. Those words were the same she had heard so many times in her drams on Jakku. Yet this was not Jakku. And looking around, she saw she stood alone.â
CHAPTER 10
âStay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promise.
The star freighterâs hatch closed, and its engines warmed. Rey tried to run toward it, but Unkar Pluttâs meaty hands held her back. No amount of squirming or wriggling would release her. She was only a small human child, while Plutt was an overweight, overgrown Crolute.
âCome back!â Rey shrieked at the ship. âCome back!â
Her cries caused Plutt to squeeze her arm so tightly it hurt. But that pain did not compare with the heartbreak of watching the freighter lift off. The ship roared toward Jakkuâs sun, never to come back as promised.
Rey woke to the sunlight of another world. Dawn streamed through the doorway of the hut in which sheâd taken shelter to escape the nightâs rain. Fortunately, the rain had ended, as had the nightmare of her parents abandoning her on Jakku.
She blinked and the afterimages of the bad dream faded away.â
CHAPTER 21
âShe didnât want to listen to him. She wanted him to stop the charade and return to Leia. But she also wanted to know.
âLet it goâ, he said. âYou know the truth. Say it.â
She knew only what she feared. And what she feared was the truth of the voice from her dreamsâthe dreams that had haunted her since the day her parents abandoned her on Jakku.
Stay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promise.
That was not the voice of her mother or her father, as she had long convinced herself.
The voice was her own.
She had imagined that voice and repeated those words over and over as a child until they became part of her reality, even her dreams. They had helped her fall asleep on a hungry stomach and pushed her to persevere when the future seemed bleak. When the years went by and her parents never returned to take her back, she never gave up the hope that someday soon they would and the nightmare of her youth would be over.
It was a false hope.
Was that what Luke had tried to prompt her to confess in the library? The truth she had locked in her heart and had never let herself admit? The truth that her parents were not hardworking space merchants trying to scrape enough together to make a better life for their family?
âThey were nobodyâ, Rey said at last.
âThey were filthy junk traders who sold you off for drinking moneyâ, Kylo Ren said, spitting out the words. âTheyâre dead in a pauperâs grave on Jakku, like all the other junk buried there.â
Rey hadnât known those details, but she had no doubt what Kylo Ren said was true. Her whole life had been one giant lie of her own making, a castle of dreams and echoes that had no foundation.
She shook all over. She might have survived Snokeâs mental thrashing, but this self-admission could break her for good.
Ren stepped toward her. âYou have no place in the story. You come from nothing. You are nothing.â His tone became tender. âBut not to me.â
He deactivated the blade. âJoin me. Please.â He held out his hand to her.
She looked at him, pale and ghostly in the starlight of the window. His request was sincere. He wanted to teach her. She could learn great power from him. He could help her attain her true potential in the Force. Her past didnât matter. All that mattered was her place in the future.
Rey reached out to Ren. He smiled.
Their hands never met.
Rey could never join with him. Not as he stood before her now. For he, too, had tried to erase his past, reinventing himself in the mold of his grandfather. The difference was that he had lost hope in his parents, while she had kept hope in hers, however false, alive.
Perhaps that was the very meaning of hope. It seemed false until it happened.
And if she wanted to save Ben, she would have to stop Kylo Ren.â
CHAPTER 23
âRey saw stars. And lights. And more stars.
But the stars in the viewport began to fade away, as did the lights on the console. Everything was fadingâeven the sound of her breathingâinto a quiet, dark nothingness.
Stay here. Iâll come back for you, sweetheart. I promise.
Jarred by the voice, she sat bolt upright in the cockpit of Snokeâs private shuttle. Of course there was no one else in the ship. Those words were just an echo in her mind. Something she had repeated to herself to stay alive on Jakku. A truth about herself with which she had reconciled.
Those words had just saved her, drawing her from what could have been a deadly slumber.
â â â
"Those words had just saved her, drawing her from what could have been a deadly slumberâ
The absolute s e r v e
* âSleeping Beautyâ vibes intensify*
Also, the reflection about how her past doesnât matter, but that her future does? All the while sheâs considering joining Ben? The fact that she canât stay by Benâs side specifically then, as the situation was in that moment?
And the fact that Rey, at that exact point between after the revelation and before the battle of Crait, clearly thought she wanted to save Benâ Iâmâ
*cries in Reylo*
But well, going back to the main point of all this...
Yep. That was Reyâs own voice
Not Ben from the future, not her parents, no one but herselfâtrying to shield herself from the pain and the truth to walk forward. I have to say this surprised me, but itâs interesting and it has me full of feels for Rey
Now the thing is, translations can be very interesting... and whereas in English you can probably just assume that Rey is saying âcome back!â in plural, in Spanish (Castilian) it gets more interesting because the âcome back!â is in singular
Worth to note how Rey doesnât doubt Ben at all, she fully believes him. And honestly, I donât think he lied either. But... could Ben had been mislead on accident by what he saw? Could have he seen something that, while true, wasnât the whole truth, so he had an incomplete view?
I mean, that happens constantlyâand we know how visions can be tricky things (something that, in fact, Snoke thinks about for a good while during a certain chapter of the TLJ non-junior novelization)
Also, another thing worth to note is that the TLJ novelization (both the junior and non-junior ones) expands on what Ben tells her in the turbolift about her turning. Hereâs the TLJ non-junior version text (Benâs words donât differ, but the non-junior highlights in cursive some wordsâwhich is why I chose it, except Iâm going to highlight them in bold for better visibility), starting from when Rey reveals her vision of Benâs future:
âWhen we touched I saw your future,â she told him. âJust the shape of it, but solid and clear. You will not bow before Snoke. You will turnâIâll help you. I saw it. Itâs your destiny.
She watched the emotions chase themselves across his face, echoed by jitters and spikes in the Force. Anger. Confusion. Pain. Loneliness. Longing. Sorrow.
Then he lifted his eyes to hers.
âYouâre wrongâ, Kylo said. âWhen we touched I saw something, too. Not your futureâyour past. And because of what I saw, I know that when the moment comes, youâll be the one to turn. Youâll stand with me. Rey, I saw who your parents are.â
Rey stared at him, but there was no lie in Kyloâs eyes. And a terrifying realization bloomed in her mind: Kyloâs churning emotions werenât just about himself. They were also about her.â
So, what Ben saw wasnât a part of her future, but her pastâand we know what Ben told Rey about her past, about her origins, but as I said: what if the picture was incomplete?
With incomplete I donât mean that we would be getting Rey being related to someone important, nor inheriting powersâI do think there are ways for Rey to keep being a no one chosen as a âvesselâ of the Force, to keep her origins humble, while making something really dramatic and shocking with her past
I mean, think of that... while Ben told Rey that her parents are dead and buried in a pauperâs grave in Jakku, Rey is shouting âcome back!â in singular, so either the devilâs in the detail and the parents didnât die at the same time, with one leaving Rey behind (or dying trying to do so *looks sideways at the theory of Rey accidentally killing her parents*), or after her parents died someone who couldâve taken her out of Jakku but didnât (or couldnât) do so
Regardless of what we see in TROS, thoughâreading Rey realize the truth behind those words is so sad. This woman needs: a hug
And it makes me sad too that weâre probably not going to see anything about it in the TROS movie because it hasnât been mentioned in TFA or TLJ outside the books *sigh*
But well, if the TLJ novels adressed this when the TFA and TLJ movies didnât, I think thereâs a high chance that the TROS novelizations will do, too
#Reylo#TROS speculation#TROS theorizing#TROS theory#TROS theories#TFA novelization#TLJ novelization#TFA junior novelization#TLJ junior novelization#TFA#TLJ#The Force Awakens#The Last Jedi#The Rise of Skywalker
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that totally sounds like itâs just the end of conversation and not of a bond. AND HE FEELS BETRAYED.
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I feel like Rey was too hostile towards Ben in the adult novelization. Iâve seen some things that I donât like in the junior novel, but I guess I donât take it as seriously. Not that Iâm taking the adult version all that seriously either. Iâm actually a little bit disappointed with the latter.
I think the only things I really love from the two (based on what Iâve read so far) are Leiaâs flashbacks of Ben, certain insights into Benâs feelings and thoughts, and a few obvious Reylo moments from the junior novel that I felt were too subtle in the adult version.
Iâll just continue enjoying the movie over both of course.Â
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from the leaks from TLJ junior novel it says the "ill come back for you sweetheart" rey hears in her dreams is her own voice. Did you see that leak? huh! i dont get that do you get that? i thought it was a man's voice
I just saw this leak!!
I also thought it was a manâs voice (and I could write an entire thesis about whose voice I thought it was), but I get why the change was made since it shows that Rey was forcing herself to believe that her family was coming back.Â
She created a memory to make the pain easier and I just want to give her a hug.Â
#tlj novelization#tlj junior novelization#tlj novelization spoilers#but yeah i thought it was a dude too
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GOD BLESS MY STORE
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âTLJ junior novelization spoiling Episode 9 back in March 2018â
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If Luke couldn't save Ben, maybe he believed someone else could.
Could the girl from Jakku somehow help them all - even Ben?
Maz: Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku, they're never coming back...but there's someone who still could.
I have no doubt whatsoever that Rey will help Ben find his way back.
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