#She didn't even mention Jill Stein

[stardustmade009]

If you want people to do something on their own posts, tag yours so i wont even see chappell roan posts babe. That's first and fucking foremost. Cause chappell roan is on my block list and youre the one not using the site correctly and making me see updates about a enabled bi phobic popstar.

Two, its not that people dont like hearing "both sides bad" its that we all know, its that there is a clear worse side still cause if you think trump isn't accelerating the genocide you werent paying attention when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem during his presidency or the fact that netanyahu has completely stepped away from negotiations until after the election in hopes trump wins, so for chapchap or her fans to think it was a bold statement worthy of anything less than mockery is... its something that's for sure.

i forget how fuckin LIBBED UP everyone is on here...'omg why did chappelle say BOTH SIDES ARE BAD??' BECAUSE BOTH SIDES ARE BAD MIOSMDFIOSHDOS

[foster-the-world]

Exploring

I want to start exploring ADHD medications for baby boy. We were planning to wait until he was 6yo but I'm not sure that's realistic anymore. We made the cardiologist appointment for an EKG because we don't know his family history of heart issues. I want to research the options. Has anyone done the gene testing to try and understand what meds may work best? I'd prefer to skip the "test out a drug to find out it makes him behave worse" phase. Not sure how reliable the test is but have seen it recommend. Thanks to the shitty American healthcare system I can't call his development pediatrician to ask her to send over options before the appointment. If I knew what she was thinking I could make sure we are on the same page.

Was walking into the weed store when my daughters classmate and her mother came by. I was planning to get the 1906 chill pills. First time ever visiting such an establishment and of course I run into someone I know. Not a big deal. Its legal. Not sure they even noticed. I was happy to see her as I'm hoping her daughter will do the ice skating program with Rebel/Bee. Sent the info to a bunch of their friends today. The program said they would provide transport if we can get 8 kids at the school signed up.

I love how my kids live in the neighborhood with all of their friends. I love that they walk down the street and people regularly yell their name AND three times in the last week I've seen people on the street and walked out of my way so I didn't have to say hello. I'm not up for small talk all of the time. I'm sure they don't want to talk to me either. Sometimes you just want to go home.

Went to a school families apartment yesterday. The Dad is a Columbia Professor whose previous full time job was polling. He said in the last Presidential election in our precinct more people voted for Jill Stein then Donald Trump. Not surprised and happy to be in good company.

T-4 days to vacation. Found out the kids camp field trip to Coney Island is on Friday. We have to pick them up early to go the airport. Luckily we are flying out of the airport near Coney Island so I think we can just pick them up there.

Rebel has a very bizarre looking rash on her leg. One small spot, maybe one inch around. No itching/pain. Did a telemed appointment. The NP was like "Yeah, that doesn't look like anything I've ever seen." Told us to take her in sometime this week. Luckily, she already has an appt to get her finger prick tmrw morning. Not too worried about it but did wish it was more typically looking. Its always something.

Started baby boy on Steroids' Friday night. The cough is so much better. Thank God. Also good to know that may work in the future. Our doctor never mentioned it in the past. I need to get him into a Pulmonogist but as he has eight doctors appointments (6 Neuropsych + cardiologist + Dev Ped) in the next month I simply cannot add another one right now.

[urlocalqueer]

here's my thing. both of them are unfit. trump quotes Hitler and biden talks bullshit and doesn't know where he is half the time. if this was an actual democracy then we would have all of the qualified candidates up there, but no, cnn wouldn't let anyone but trump and biden on that stage. they wouldn't even let an audience in that room because they're fucking cowards. to my knowledge, jill stein hit the electorial vote number, so why wasn't she up there? this joke of a debate wasn't actually worth anything. it didn't show anyone anything except that both of them are fucking incompetent. do i think biden will keep some important protections for ppl if he was in office vs. trump? yes i do, but both of them suck ass. if major news media ever thought to mention third party candidates other than RFK then maybe people would feel like there's more of a choice. there are third party candidates who want to help and do good but who gives a fuck about that, right.

tldr: the two party system doesn't fucking work.

[slimgrimace]

The moron in the notes who put this up forgot that she spent the entire campaign courting the right wing and never once suggested even a moderately liberal stance on any topic at all. She did not promise to codify abortion rights nationally, or to codify gay marriage since obergefell is very clearly next on the chopping block. She didn't "singlehandedly end the Palestinian genocide" yes, but she also openly promised to help kill more Palestinians, which is the same exact violent genocidal policy as her opponent. she did not offer so much as a single policy that was even as far left as say, mild tax reform. She aimed for rich donors and missed most of them. She spent billions in campaign funds on ads targeting the right. She never even mentioned the left. She never even gazed at the left. The left did not exist in this election. Two far right candidates ran against each other and the one with brand recognition won.

You know what her one and only campaign promise was? A tax rebate when you buy a house. Lol. You know how we can all afford houses so easily?

I don't need some perfect progressive angel who has never done any wrong, I need someone who has the slightest left lean. I haven't been allowed to vote for a liberal even once in the four elections since I turned 18. They have made me choose between flavors of conservative over and over. I voted for Kamala because I let the lib guilt tripping get to me. I will not be voting for a conservative ever again, and that includes any and all current members of the DNC. Lean left or lose the election, simple as. It's not the lesser of two evils if both are the same exact type and amount of evil lmao.

The enemies of the world are the GOP and the DNC, equally and as a unit. There are not two parties in this nation, there is no opposition. I will be voting in local politics only from this day forward, and I will not be supporting the red vs blue farce. And that includes the fake ass Green Party by the way, Jill stein fans please all kill yourselves violently and painfully.

What universe are you fucking living in

[schooltrashers]

The 5 pics above contains proof and comparisons showing how similar the Left are to the KKK and Nazis. In fact both the KKK and Nazis are still left-wing, no matter how much this Anarchist Social Justice Incel wants to deny it in the 2 screenshots below. Everything he just said is false and I'll tell you why that is.

See unlike him, I can back up my claims with various sources. BLM/Antifa did kill innocent black people such as 8-year-old Secoreia Turner because she was at a CHOP zone where Rayshard Brooks died. Then of course they/them(Antifa/BLM) killed Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr who died at a CHOP zone in Seattle, Washington.

Let's not forget that during a riot they/them killed David Dorn, a retired black police officer who is married to a white woman. And we all know how angry racist white people with small dick energy hate interracial relationships. Yes Antifa/BLM are comprised of mostly angry white leftists with small dick energy.

So yes police should use deadly force against violent domestic terrorists who riot on the streets & murder innocent people. This is why I oppose anarchists groups like Antifa and BLM. Their evil actions and lack of moral values is what I oppose. The lies and deception of this anarchist clearly shows.

He does not give a shit about the victims I just mention or any truth that I posted in my previous post about "Anti-Extremism" where I condemn extremist groups and ideologies because anti-extremism is both ANTI-NAZI and ANTI-COMMIE. But he doesn't get that because he's a moron thinking his views are the "right one".

So rather than agree with me on anything I've said, he just says "you're a liar" and "you're a nazi". Even though both those things are untrue. See when it comes to the Left, they always lie and accuse you of something you're not. I prefer peace, I'm against murderers, I'm against riots, and I'm against liars.

As far as WWII goes, yes it was the conservatives who went into war and fought against Nazis. We're the ones who often join the military while the Democrats such as the KKK were the ones supporting the Nazis and terrorizing innocent black people in the U.S. like the cowards they are. Antifa & BLM are doing the same things now, that the KKK was doing back then. Also, the Republican Party was originally created to help black people, hence why they freed the slaves and fought for their rights.

The parties obviously never switched, the Democrats just switched their methods in order to deceive blacks into voting for them. The parties switching never happened, hence why Joe Biden and Robert Byrd(the KKK Grand Wizard) are pictured holding hands together. Here's a source that proves the parties never switching... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiprVX4os2Y

Furthermore, I've been anti-Nazi long before supporting Donald Trump in 2020. I use to be an anti-Trumper, believing in the lies told about Trump & his supporters. My past videos on YouTube are proof of that. Because you see, back in 2016 I didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary, I voted for Jill Stein. I've been against Nazis and extremists in general for so long, that I've made a video against MGTOW and FemiNAZIS (look at the thumbnail)... https://youtu.be/GZn5FK0deJ4

As well as calling out racists like Hulk Hogan and Mark Fuhrman for using the N-Word. Mark Fuhrman by the way is a Nazi and a corrupt cop. Here's the video proving what I just said. https://youtu.be/IsiDuyiYvK0

(This comment is directed to the Anarchist only). So before you make an ass of yourself by lying about me and making up shit, better make sure you got sources and proof to back up your claim ya Extremist Nazi Commie Scumbag.

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Ha-HA! Have THIS long-ass shit on your page!

[politicalblade]

Let's choose Jill Stein! The person who is actively against sending more arms and troops to israel to slaughter people in the Middle East.

kopmala harris is pro-cop, didn't even bother to condemn the unjust execution of Marellus Williams, and the democrat party recently removed their stance against the death penalty from their policy page.

Not to mention that kopmala once signed a letter against the ICC to probe israel's war crimes. So justice.

OH! And she also blocked DNA testing that would have proven a person's innocence. So compassionate.

She's against an embargo that would stop sending israel weapons.

She takes money from aipac. That alone is enough to NOT VOTE FOR HER.

Humanity vs Evil

The difference between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is that Trump’s flaws come from a disordered personality and from hatred. Kamala’s flaws come from her humanity. She is human. She is real. She is compassionate and courageous and yeah she did flub up a few interviews as vice president. Because she is a good and genuine human being. She’s been accused of not knowing where she stands because she stands out by not giving the simple easy answers that we crave. She understands the nuance to important issues. Most things are not all or nothing. That is a cognitive bias that all human beings are prone to, but we must fight it. All you have to do to understand who Kamala Harris is, is to read her book. She cares deeply for others and she cares deeply for diversity and justice. When she falls down, because she is human, she fights and gets back up. The things she is criticized for, her joy, her laughter, her occasionally imperfect interviews, her complex view of issues etc., are all things that prove her humanity. We need her leadership. America is a beautiful and wonderful place but we have our skeletons. We have our prejudices. We need to fight them. We need to move towards unity.

Donald Trump has abandoned his humanity a long time ago. I’d argue he abandoned it when Barack Obama became president. He believed his birth certificate conspiracy would have prevented a black man from becoming president, and it didn’t. He knew it was a racist conspiracy. His own mother was an immigrant. It wasn’t about Obama’s father being an immigrant. It was about the color of his skin.

Let’s make the right choice this November. Let’s choose unity. Let’s choose cohesion. Let’s choose justice. Let’s choose a person who does genuinely care about our economic well being.

[reasonandempathy]

Well this is a massive load of horseshit, which is fun. Because I'm bored at work.

Let's start at the top, shall we?

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is a fascist, and leftists aren't going to be voting for him. This post literally started with a strawman argument.

RFK JR was included on the post because he is a most prominent 3rd party candidate that people are considering voting for, including Biden supporters.

Whether he takes more from Trump or Biden is up in the air and changes frequently. And saying I had a strawman when I explicitly didn't say anything about him other than him being a 3rd party candidate is a great way to set the tone for your bullshit to come.

It is true that Dr. Cornel West does not have enough ballot access, however, the map you showed for Dr. Jill Stein is no longer accurate, even if it were at time of posting, and is manipulatively framed regardless. She has enough ballot access to win the election.

Wait, so you're telling me that not having a future map is "intentional disinformation or manipulatively framed misinformation"? Jesus Christ these words don't mean shit coming out of your mouth.

I didn't even focus on the Greens/Jill Stein initially because I was literally just asking for any candidate. Anyway,

Using the states she or the Greens are currently on the ballot for she barely crosses 270.

And getting 270 would require her to win Texas and Florida. So while yes, she added a 2 states in 6 weeks (I legitimately forgot about DC, so I apologize for that one), which is good, "being on the ballot" is literally the first step. The only additional state she's submitted ballots for is NY, which would bring her up over 300 but she would still need to win almost every state she's on the ballot for to win.

And this still would require her to beat both Trump and Biden by massive amounts to get either the majority of plurality of each state. the Jill Stein who's 15 points underwater nationally.

I mean fuck, it's mid-june and we're still having a conversation about which states she'll be on the ballot for.

Manipulatively framing poll results under status quo ergo nullum futura possibilate is disingenuous, ignores that people are capable of change, ignores the effects of people convincing others to vote differently, ignores people convincing non-voters to vote, and ignores mail-in write-in early voting.

And let's very quickly address your stupid attempt at sounding intelligent by code-switching to Latin. I didn't even mention the fucking polling, I just spoke about how any 3rd party candidate would need to win more states than they were on the ballot for initially.

The Greens are on the ballot for 21 states. 19 at the initial time of writing.

They were on the ballot in 21 states in 2020.

And 21 states in 2016.

This year, if we presume they get on the ballot in New York, they will reach their new historic high of being on the ballot in 22 states.

They're on the ballot in a number of red strongholds and not on the ballot in a number of safe blue states, Like WA and NJ. And while Green =/= Blue she's going to be drawing from Democratic Voters far more heavily than from Republicans, so she would minimally need to be on enough state ballots that she can win without having to beat both Trump and Biden is Georgia, Mississippi, Arkansan, Florida, and Texas.

Jesus Christ addressing your bullshit takes so much longer than you spewing it.

You'll notice that in the lower right map, while Texas (a swing state) is a battleground state (which, as a Texan, has an extremely large leftist population,

No it isn't. Yes, there is a large leftist population in the cities, but you fuckers can't get a single democrat elected to a national office and Trump has gained support among Texans since 2020, not lost it. Texas has been the Holy Grail of Democratic Electoral Ambitions since I was born and soon it probably will actually a battleground, but the Texas Democratic Party is fucking horrible at its job and Trump won the state with a solid buffer in 2020, the election with the highest turnout in our lifetimes.

And if you think the Democratic party can't beat right-wing fucknuggets in Texas but Jill Stein can I have two tickets to Atlantis I can sell you real cheap.

especially a large queer population in Austin, there's just gerrymandering and a lot of people have been taught that voting is useless), even excluding Florida (another swing state), she has enough ballot access to win the election.

Literally, objectively not.

Jill Stein is on the ballot for 276 votes right now. Adding New York, she's still only at 304. If you subtract Texas (40) and Florida (30) she's down to 234 and can't win.

So with developments in the past 6 weeks I'll happily amend my prior statement to "They are literally, legally, incapable of winning the election. They are not on enough state ballots to win and Jill Stein would need to somehow win California and Texas to even "win" all the states they're on the ballot for. Which, again, would still not be enough to win the presidency and likely throw it to the currently existing Republican House of Representatives. Which would put Trump in office." Currently, with the states she's on the ballot for, if she loses Georgia she can't win. If we include New York then she can afford to lose Georgia, Arizona, and maybe one other state.

Someone going through the fucking map and telling you how ridiculous of a proposition it is to expect someone that 60% of the country doesn't know, and of those that do know her it's 28:13 dislike her, to somehow rise in 5 months to break both the Democratic and Republic Parties, including Trump's diehard supporters, isn't a thing I see as realistic.

Anyway, because I'm still barely into your bullshit.

If she's able to gain New York and literally nothing else, which is currently awaiting certification of ballot access, she can lose Texas as well and still has enough electoral votes to win the election.

That's not how the fucking math works.

You're gonna sit here and accuse me of dishonest framing when you're here pretending your masturbatory map of "what if Greens win all of congress too and then vote for Jill Stein in Congress"? Are you fucking kidding me?

I'm just going to ignore your homemade maps alone from now on. They're fucking ludicrous, and your insistence on framing the conversation around "What if Jill Stein wins almost every Democratic State and major Republican states at the same time?" is disconnected from political reality.

The Democratic and Republican presidential candidates framing a genocide differently doesn't make either of them, "the better option," it's still a genocide, and I advise you think about the fact that Donald Trump is not going to drop a nuclear bomb on Palestine as the Gaza Strip is on the West coast of Israel.

Note for the record, this conversation is now shifting away from "Can a third party candidate realistically win" to "Fuck Joe Biden". Which is a fine conversation to have, but note what's going on now. They can likely say "I want Jill Stein to win!" in response to what I say below, but they haven't done shit about if Jill Stein can win. If I had a magic fucking wand I'd put Jill Stein in there in a second but there's no actual plan to do that so far other than "if she wins California and Texas and Florida and New York and Virginia and Arizona and Nevada and Georgia and South Carolina...then she can win!"

Yeah, that's how math works. My left testicle can be President if it wins all those states too. But she's 15 points underwater with 5 months to go and would need to break Trump's fanatical base to do it. That's not enough time.

Anyway,

"I know that Donald Trump said he'd do this ridiculous fucking thing but he wouldn't actually do it. It'd be too stupid for him to do it." Seriously? Your defense is that the madman is too smart to do something stupid?

And it doesn't even require the US to actually nuke Gaza. Even if we pretend Trump has a reasonable bone in his body, there is a universe of difference between what Biden is doing to support Netanyahu and what Trump would do to support Netanyahu.

Biden is saying Trump would do more. Trump is agreeing that he would do more, and that doing more is an important moral thing for the US to do. You're here saying "well, he's not actually going to Nuke Gaza" as if that's the entire conversation.

Iran has already threatened the United States with war if the US retaliates against Iran for fighting Israel to liberate Palestine.

Man, shut the fuck up about Iran. Trump was out here fucking assassinating Iranian generals, and Trump would also be far more likely to attack Iran in support of Israel than Biden is. Raising fears of a war with Iran with Biden in power but not Trump is fucking dumb.

Palestine's Islamic defense force Hamas, Palestine's Marxist-Leninist defense force Democratic Front of the Liberation of Palestine, Lebanon's Islamic defense force Hezbollah, and Iran's military are all simultaneously fighting against the Israeli occupation - and for the record, all of which are justified until Israel falls: oppressed people have a right to violence.

Real question. Do you sincerely think Israel is more likely to fall under Trump than under Biden? Because that's the only real reason you'd bring this into the conversation. I don't even disagree that people have the right to resist occupation, but we're not talking about the fall of Israel here, are we? We're supposed to be talking about the 2024 election.

Much of your criticisms of Donald Trump are things that Joe Biden has also done, he just has better PR because major news agencies like painting him in a positive light.

Literally not true. I went through it just now, and the only one you have is "Biden could've been better about COVID." Which is why it's the only thing you mention.

And yeah, he could have. But he was fucking miles above Trump on that. Trump vacillated between pretending it wasn't a big deal, calling it a Chinese Bioattack, and refusing to be seen doing or enacting public health policies because it would make him look weak.

We're just fully into the bullshit now, aren't we?

Biden and Trump are both fascists. Project 2025 is not a new, major scary thing, it's things that the Republican party has already been working on with the assistance of the Democratic party trying to be, "bipartisan," for decades; it's just written into a neat and tidy document and is consequently causing mass panic.

Fucking...no. Jesus fucking Christ.

Even when I agree with your criticisms of US actions you fling batshit at the walls.

A military junta of US civil infrastructure and martial law isn't "what we've been doing for decades." Unitary Executive Theory is explicitly not "what we've always been doing", nor is government-wide purges of anyone not explicitly loyal to Trump and Trump alone. The demolition of the DOJ, FCC, EPA, FTC, DoE, FBI, DHS, NIH, ACA, CFPB, the criminalization of porn, enabling people to legally discriminate based on sex and gender, and more isn't "what they've been doing for decades." It is the culmination and explosion of explicitly the most far-right bullshit in the country.

These are things that Trump has supercharged in the Republican bloodstream, but you're a fucking idiot if you think the Republican Party wanted to kill the DoJ in 2015.

Calling for a Free Palestine and not working for it is the kind of purely performative work of white liberals that black and Communist activists have warned us about. Vote for Dr. Jill Stein and talk to people about it.

"True communists believe we can vote out the fascists in control of the US"

Jesus Christ, man. It takes .4 seconds to come up with reasons, from the left, that you're a fucking idiot. Not the least of which being "why on earth are you trying to pin change and hope for the country on electing an unpopular politician in 5 months, rather than just killing Trump and Biden?"

Or, alternatively

"Ignoring political reality and institutions of power when fascists were on the rise is explicitly how we lost influence in Germany, Italy, and across Europe and got so many of us killed. It's why left-wing policies are being pushed back against and rolled back across Europe now. This is a weird moment when liberals are, correctly, motivated to actually beat back the head of a rising fascist movement. Help them do that while working towards the glorious Working Class Awakening, which isn't going to happen in 5 months." (which is the correct take)

Either OP intentionally created a fake map to deceive people, or Dr. Jill Stein does actually have significant enough support to rapidly gain ballot access in even more states. Neither of these paint OP's post in a good light. Vote Jill Stein. Vote Green Party.

You're a fucking idiot, and a loser. You can't even fucking count and I had multiple screenshots of maps at the time, for each candidate. If you couldn't read one of them I would've happily pulled it up for you again, but it's not actually that hard. It's the New York Times, which actively keeps track of where people are on the ballot.

If you actually had any interest in knowing what you're talking about you would've at least googled "3rd party candidates ballot 2024."

And you'd see that the NYT one is the first one with a big-ass color-coded map of the candidates and parties. And you'd note that I explicitly said the map I made was where they were on the ballot. Maybe for dumb fucks like you I could've put it in

BIG NEON LETTERS THAT I WAS MAKING A MAP BASED ON THE FACTS AT THE TIME AND NOT PROJECTIONS

but I didn't think I would need that level of redundancy. I though "How many electoral votes the largest of those (green party, a.k.a. Jill Stein) would win if they won every single state they're on the ballot for." was enough.

And I wouldn't be so aggressive about this if you didn't start this entire conversation by saying I'm actively lying to people, followed by "look at this stupid fucking map I made based on the collective class awakening of the US"

You're actively talking about "what if all of America woke up and chose to vote as a Working Class in their own best interest" but you don't even have the balls to throw it behind Dr. West, who you like more.

If the US is going to undergo a great spiritual/political awakening use it to promote the actual best candidate. Unless you're acknowledging that expecting the US to suddenly switch from Blue and Red to a 3rd party is actually a fuckload of work and it's not realistic to expect people to change decades of voting patterns in 5 months.

Either engage in the real world or don't. Don't play lala-leftist-pretend-revolution and try to tell me you're being realistic you fucking idiot.

Signed,

Someone who actually worked on election campaigns, including for the Green Party, in New York.

The weird radical/revolutionary politic larpers on this site are so allergic to political pragmatism I swear lmao. I am definitely left of the Democratic Party and I am certainly voting for Joe Biden in November. Not because I like him (I don’t). He is absolutely horrific on Gaza and that’s only the top (and priority considering there is a genocide going on there) of a list of complaints I have about him. I even voted uncommitted in my state’s presidential primary (the Pennsylvania one; I had to write it in) to protest. However, I’m still thinking pragmatically. Trump has said things that make me credibly think he will be worse on Gaza (insane that being worse on Gaza than Biden is possible but it is unfortunately), and that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Project 2025, the potential for him to appoint more deeply conservative justices, more of his aggressively screwing over poor and middle class people with his tax policies. And does anyone else remember the spike in hate crimes after the race was called for him in 2016? Before he was even inaugurated? Whether people vote or not in November we will still have to deal with one of these two men in office come January unless all of the internet ancom larpers overthrow the government by then (doubt), so I’d rather deal with the one who will be marginally less bad and who didn’t try to overthrow the government. Can’t have your revolution if nobody’s alive cause you kept pushing off politically participating because there was no perfect option. 👍

Political pragmatist anon, sorry for ranting in your askbox but I feel like I lose brain cells watching these people talk. The other day I saw someone say Biden is bad because Roe v. Wade fell under his administration… even though the reason for that was Trump appointed justices. 💀 (2/2)

Fucking insane. Sincerely.

It's a completely, flatly binary choice for anyone with a brain stem and sincerity. It's distilled into the two below images:

Where all major third party candidates are even on the ballot

How many electoral votes the largest of those (green party, a.k.a. Jill Stein) would win if they won every single state they're on the ballot for.

They are literally, legally, incapable of winning the election. They are not on enough state ballots to win and Jill Stein would need to somehow win California and Texas to even "win" all the states they're on the ballot for. Which, again, would still not be enough to win the presidency and throw it to the currently existing Republican House of Representatives. Which would put Trump in office.

It's that straightforward. That simple. That BLARINGLY obvious to literally everyone except these people.

On the one hand you have:

Significant and continuous support for Israel and it's genocide

Record levels of pardons for low-level drug offenses

the gearing up of the strongest anti-trust regime since the early 20th century

the most aggressive NLRB I've seen in my lifetime, with massive wins and institutional changes to help workers

Including getting Rail strike workers a week of sick-leave that gets paid out at the end of the year, which is better than NYC and LA sick leave laws

Millions of people (not enough) getting student debt forgiveness

Some trillion dollars (not enough)of investment in renewable resources and infrastructure

Proposed taxes on unrealized capital gains (a.k.a. how billionaires never have any money but can still buy Kentucky, Iowa, and Twitter)

Effectively an end to overdraft fees

The explicit support of leftist world leaders like Lula de Silva. Who he has explicitly worked with to expand worker rights in South America.

Has capped (some, not enough, only a tiny amount really but it's something) some drug prices, including Insulin.

Reduced disability discrimination in medical treatment

Billions in additional national pre-k funding

Ending federal use of private prisons

Pushing bills to raise Social Security tax thresholds higher to help secure the General Fund

Increasing SSI benefits

and more

vs

Said Israel should just nuke Gaza and "get it over with"

Personally takes pride in and credit for getting Roe v Wade overturned

Is arguing in court that the President should be allowed to assassinate political rivals

Muslim Ban Bullshit, insistently

Actively damages our global standing and diplomatic efforts just by getting obsessed with having a Big Button

Implemented massive tax cuts on ich people, tax hikes on middle class and poor people, and actively wants to do it again

"Only wants to be a dictator for a little bit, guys, what's the big deal"

Is loudly publicly arguing that the US shouldn't honor its military alliances after-the-fact

Tore up an effective and substantial anti-nuclear-proliferation treaty with Iran

Had a DoEd that actively just refused to process student debt forgiveness applications that have been the law of the land for decades now

Has a long record of actively curtailing and weakening the NLRB and labor movement, including allowing managers to retaliate against workers, weakened workplace accommodation requirements for disabled people, and more

Rubber stamped a number of massive mergers building larger, more powerful top companies and increasing monopolistic practices

Fucking COVID Bullshit and hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths

Openly supporting fascists and wannabe-bootlicks ("Very fine people" being only the beginning of it

It's really not fucking close.

[sleeptight-grimrite]

I swear, Hillary supporters are every bit as delusional as Trump supporters and just as ignorant when it comes to the issues.

Literally apply all of what you just said about her bailing out the DNC and apply it to Trump. Your fake asses would be screaming "CORRUPTION" and you'd be right. You have someone who lost to Barack Obama -- a black man with with a Muslim name -- because people didn't trust her. So you try telling the American people "....but it was technically legal!" and see how much confidence that inspires. That's the point. And as expected, it seems to have gone over your head.

I've read the 'lists' of things that the Clintons have accomplished. Conveniently, they leave out the crime bill they signed off on, which ruined millions of lives for blacks and people of color. For a party so hung up on identity politics, she should have been a 'no' from day one. Those lists also leave out the fact that Hillary supported the Iraq war, as well as the Patriot act. They also leave out the fact that she was against gay marriage up until 2013 (Bernie was for it YEARS before she and MANY Democrats were). And for all her being gung-ho against guns, when she ran against Obama in 2008, she used the fact that he was much more anti-gun against him. Go on, look it up. Your list also leaves out how she sold out Americans with that bankruptcy bill she flipped on (ask Liz Warren) and how she 'pivoted' from universal health care when the insurance companies started paying her. Again, look it up.

Just during the primaries alone, she called herself a progressive, she called herself a moderate. When all she really is is just another warhawk Republican....who happens to believe in gay marriage and the right for women to choose. Sorry, those are "duh" issues that only assholes disagree with and its not brave to simply not be an asshole anymore.

You can talk shit about how Bernie -- the longest serving Independent -- hasn't gotten much done by way of passing his own legislation, but he's been consistent on the issues, unlike Hillary and so many other Democrats with the exception of Tulsi Gabbard and Elizabeth Warren. Not to mention he isn't called the 'amendment king' for nothing. A lot more than just naming post boxes, honey.

Worship Hillary if you want to, but you're on the side with people who thought she was so atrocious, they went for Trump...or Jill Stein or Johnson or weren't inspired to vote at all. Try calling us all Russian shills and sexists and racists and see how far that gets you. Try ignoring Bernie and the over 60% of the country that agrees with his message that calls for not just focus on identity politics (which DOES have a place. I'm a black woman, you don't have to explain to me that discrimination is still a thing) but economic equality as well.

If you people wanna just rag on about identity politics, go ahead. You'll probably win the popular vote from now until the end of time, but you'll never win another general election.

But its a waste of time for me to even tell you this, as you quite obviously worship this woman (aint nobody worshipping Sanders, its the fact that tuition free college, medicare for all and raising the minimum wage have over 60% popularity nation wide, even with a pluarlity of Republicans). Still, you should probably just go ahead and face the possibility that you must be wrong about how great Hillary is. Because if you were right, Hillary would be the president right now and would not have lost to a man who had a 64% disapproval rating on the day of the election.

And if Bernie was such a piece of shit with the lack of support needed to win an election or get legislation passed once he had, then almost every credible poll wouldn't have had him consistently beat Trump by double digits and well outside the margin of error (which is what Hillary lost by ouldn't even break out of during the campaign) and he wouldn't be the most popular politician in the country right now. He doesn't need the Democrats, as I'm sure you're aware.

Stay on your sinking ship. 😂✌

Bernie was given the exact same deal.

The deal only applied to the general election. Not the primary.

Oh and…

Hillary won the primary by 4 million votes.

Why doesn’t anybody talk about the fact that Hillary won the popular vote? It’s the only fact that matters.

Hillary beat Bernie by 4 million votes. Period.