#Seer of breath
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cgtg · 4 months ago
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BREATH PLAYERZ ONLY
as with the space poll: if you consider multiple, i suggest going for the one u feel aligned with currently/most often, which one u wanna represent in a poll like this, whichever has the most compelling role/narrative, whatever works for U. classpecting is very subjective, and fluid for a lot of people.
i still actively encourage discussion in the replies of what your class and aspect mean to u. simple or lengthy, i wanna hear it :J
excluding master classes bc no space for em, sorry.
for those who cant vote: i'd appreciate u passing the poll along. also, i'll likely post updates throughout the week on how it's going so everyone can have a peek inside the breathsworld. thank u
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starlit1daydream · 6 months ago
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Mages & Seers: Experience and Comprehension
Those who know, everybody. I love Seers - so this should be one hell of an analysis.
The Mage:Seer class dichotomy embodies experience, comprehension and knowledge of their Aspect. Their Quest and their role in the session revolves wholly around their personal comprehension of their Aspect; and the ways in which that may shift or change their (or others!) viewpoint.
I can't definitively say they're one of the Classes that say something about their session, beyond perhaps the concept that a Mage or a Seer will obviously have a well of knowledge on their Aspect present.
Canonical Mage players are Sollux Captor (Mage of Doom) and Meulin Leijon (Mage of Heart).
Canonical Seer players are Rose Lalonde (Seer of Light), Terezi Pyrope (Seer of Mind) and Kankri Vantas (Seer of Blood).
Point A. The narrative function of the Mage.
Mages know about their Aspect. They are that simple to understand. A lot of people will argue that the Mage is one of the more nebulous classes in Homestuck; and I'd argue this is because there really isn't much in the way of complexity with them. They've got a fairly straightforward relationship with their Aspect; having experienced it wholly throughout their life prior to the session.
It's almost, to me, as if their Aspect haunts them in a sense. We see this with Sollux's recurring visions of Doom and misfortune; considering that the Mages & Seers are meant to fill a sort of 'prophet' archetype.
Sollux is consistently depicted as knowledgeable on coding (a manifestation of Doom in the form of rigid order and regulation) and holding a vast well of knowledge and foresight on the topic of suffering. It's important to hold the distinction that Doom does not deal directly with absolute death (Time does), and so Sollux's visions are of the imminently doomed and the suffering, not the already deceased.
Meulin is a little more difficult to pin down, but inference from stray lines of dialogue and particularly her complex moirallegiance with Horuss give me some substance to work with. Toxic positivity? Alluded 'darkness' in her without elaboration? Her disability being inflicted directly as a result of her partner & lover? I think what we're looking at here is depression.
If Meulin has experience with Heart in all facets - this implies to me that she has a share of experience with emotion in all facets. Good and bad. And what better manifestation of poor emotional control than that? I think it's a very conclusive theory.
It becomes clear to me that Mages aren't absolute in their assertions, and so therein comes my theory that their quest involves an expansion of perspective and reconsideration of their knowledge. It is to accept that they may not understand their Aspect as thoroughly as once thought and subsequently grow to accomodate a wider worldview. They're stagnant, having experienced so much that they feel they have no further room to learn.
Point B. The practical function of the Mage.
This is a more difficult one to understand since neither Mage in the comic God Tiers and they aren't seen fighting much over the course of the story. Even when Sollux takes to action, he applies his psiionics rather than utilising Doom in any way.
My theory is that the application of a Mage is to inform. Mages & Seers may very well hold the same occupation broadly speaking, to accomodate for the gaps in co-players' knowledge and bring about newfound understanding. Being active players, the Mages presumably advance this through their own means. This is some of the most active conjecture I'll be writing, since we do not ever see a God-Tiered Mage in canon.
Point C. The narrative function of the Seer!
In case it wasn't obvious, I am very excited to get this segment done; after all, who better to talk on the topic of Seers than... a Seer?
Seers have a little more depth to their function involving their relationship with both their Aspect and its diemetric opposite. Seers begin their sessions holding a poor or deficient comprehension of their Aspect; to the point where they seek their opposite. The notion of their base Aspect comes into play fairly soon - though they may superficially seek their opposite, it is their Aspect they seek in actuality.
They do hold a certain level of foresight, but rather than the Mage's inherent comprehension, Seers tend to rely upon external sources and stimuli to further their understanding; Rose with the Horrorterrors, Terezi with Scratch & Aranea, and we can only guess with Kankri.
They are capable of having visions, though - as Rose & The Signless can both attest to!
Rose seeks Void. She seeks to breach the unknowable, catalogues the Zoologically Dubious and finds comfort in oblivion and the pursuit of ignorance. She resolves to leave the game to Void rather than seek its Light; at first.
Terezi seeks Heart. Her final speech to Vriska talks of her emotional insecurity and pursuit of self-assurance. She wishes most prominently for security in herself and her identity; and yet this manifests in a flawed pursuit of binary, deficient Mind.
Kankri seeks Breath. Having been coddled and patronised all his life, freedom is his ultimate aim. His rebellious spirit and compulsive boot-licking seem to be a direct manifestation of his desire to think for himself and be free in his direction. Kankri's a particularly interesting one given that he fucked up his quest, canonically.
...The Signless didn't, however. The Signless pursued unity through freedom his whole life.
Rose resolves to pursue knowledge through the unknown.
Terezi seeks logic through emotion.
All of them grow, the further they pursue their Session's aims, to understand their base Aspect. It's a reversal of the Mage's quest; the stagnant Mage must embrace diversity wheras the directionless Seer embraces their certain path.
Point D. The practical function of the Seer.
Apologies, this is going to be mostly just about Rose.
Rose's role in her session post-ascension is to understand and inform her session-mates about the most fortuitous path. Her visions allow her to comprehend Light and sift through the endless possibilities and synthesis of her Aspect to find the most precise outcome. They grow to be an indispensible well of knowledge; always learning and finding out their Aspect's truth.
Terezi does the same, albeit without ascending; her greatest moment of heroism is the prelude to the Retcon, which she directly causes. Terezi applies all of her knowledge of consequence, cause & effect to undo the resultant consequences of the actions taken by her sessionmates. She uses her comprehension of Mind to her utmost ability; which is why I find it gut-wrenching that she still believes she was never enough.
Kankri... does jack shit other than be a whiny little bootlicker, but The Signless certainly applies his Aspect for the greater good. The fire of his rebellion and his pursuit of unity and free communication on Alternia ignite the spark of revolution for generations to come; his quest for Blood bringing utmost comprehension and sight of unity.
Overall, this is one Class where the narrative:practical lines tend to blur a little, owing to the general non-combatant status of the Classes in general. Rose shows they're capable of using their Aspect in combat just as all players are; but it seems clear to me that they function the best as advisors.
Next week, I'll be elucidating on the Witches & Heirs; which will be an interesting one since it'll require me to actually understand what a Witch does. That should be fun.
Take care, everybody. I know nothing.
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causticxebec · 2 months ago
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Remaking their refs as I introduce them in PS ^_^ hopefully I'll get the girls at least introduced before artfight!
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irradiatedpathogen · 7 months ago
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*♡GYARU OC♡*
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Oxyrif thraea, seer of breath
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EXTRA
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8tw the holes in her horns are 8ody mods
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blinkees · 5 months ago
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seer of breath blinkie maubee?? ^_^ if its okay!!!!
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prince-of-time-pt · 9 months ago
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Can I get a show of hands who actually is a Seer irl? I have maybe seen one in the wild. For science also drop your aspect.
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our-fav-hs-char · 10 months ago
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Which is the cooler classpect?
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ns-sprite-editz · 1 year ago
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And I'll throw this quick thing at ya too.
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giftofclasspects · 2 years ago
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hello friends!! i'm back with more classpect playlists!! this time, i've made playlists for the breath aspect under the cut!
maid of breath
page of breath
mage of breath
knight of breath
rogue of breath
sylph of breath
seer of breath
thief of breath
heir of breath
bard of breath
prince of breath
witch of breath
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contrairyart · 2 months ago
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Telozu Azureh https://toyhou.se/33115912.telozu-azureh
Sprites credit to FarragoFiction's DollSim: http://farragofiction.com/DollSim/index.html?type=2
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fraymotifsbeyond · 6 months ago
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hey can you do a fraymotif on the Mage of Rage (Prospit) + Seer of Breath (Prospit)?
Mage/Rage + Seer/Breath The Leader's Regret
The seer finds a source of great leadership and free spiritness Like the session's leader of the black king, and the Mage uses his vast knowledge of Dobut & Negative thought to make it doubt itself, becoming less qualified or even make it give up and resign from it's role. Managing to use this against the black king is a great way to ensure victory for the session.
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sylphclasspecting · 2 years ago
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weirdcore seer of breath moodboard for @wm-secret-blog
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starlit1daydream · 1 year ago
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CLASSPECTING RED GUY: DHMIS and the aspect of Breath
So, Red was technically tied for first with Yellow in the poll I made, but given that I had more clear ideas for Yellow I elected to make this first. Now I've taken some time to think over Red's classpect, I think I'm confident about my answer.
Red's characterisation hinges on two key factors, I think.
Factor one: Red Guy is disaffected, apathetic and bored. He seems to enjoy doing nothing, to the point where he gets frustrated when his plans of doing nothing are scarpered. Red Guy is lazy.
Factor two: Red Guy always seems to want to leave wherever it is he is. He never belongs. Consistently, throughout both series, Red Guy has the urge to depart the most frequently.
With this, it's pretty clear what Aspect he's bound to? Red Guy furthers the narrative, is in constant pursuit of freedom, and remains avoidant and detached throughout it all. He's a very clear Breath-bound, and I'm irritated it took me this long to realise it.
Red Guy's desire for escapism and refusal to fit into boxes comes into play particularly during the Family episode, which serves as a little mini-arc for him, I feel. He seems to like the idea of family, connection and 'belonging' (a very Blood-coded idea), but finds very quickly that he's not cut out for it and is rejected outright by the people he seems to think he belongs with. It happens again in the Dreams episode of the TV show. Red's among those whom by all accounts he should conform with. They're quite literally carbon copies of him... but he doesn't connect.
So, what Class does this place him as? What do you give to a player who has quite literally been rejected by their opposing Aspect? I'm going to pin him as a Seer of Breath. He has the stubbornness, argumentative nature and self-destructive nature that most Seers have, for sure, particularly Rose. Much like Rose, he begins without his Aspect and disregards it (lacking in freedom, adhering to Blood rather than Breath) and his quest begins once he starts searching for it. Once he has his eyes on the Aspect, he is relentless in his thirst for knowledge of it. Red, like Rose, rejects the role given to him by the higher powers (Roy & SBURB) in the name of something greater and desires to destroy what's been laid out in front of him. And, as you can see in Transport, that's what he does.
Ultimately, Red's motivated wholly by desire to understand Breath in the name of others, working tirelessly to free himself and his friends from the chains they're bound by. And, of course, in the web series narrative he grants them that freedom.
There's an alternative reading for sure that Red is a Thief of Blood - not understanding the value of Blood whilst continuing to crave it and obsessively hoard it, but Thieves aren't really known for ghosting their opposite and he doesn't really strike me as being selfish or callous enough to be a Thief. Plus, the Breath in his characterisation outweighs the Blood significantly.
Finally, I'll be going over Duck Guy for June 19th, as a player of Doom. Don't miss it.
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flaxen-phoenix · 1 year ago
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Seer of Breath: Ascend (again).
I decided to redo my old drawing of Cirrus as a Seer of Breath, so here they are! Those baseballs are brimming with ghostly energy!
Posted using PostyBirb
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ultra-clashpects · 1 year ago
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THE SEER OF BREATH
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The Seer of Breath is someone who floats along through life without a care, just simply learning things as they see fit, never really tying themselves down to a place or an idea and rather letting themselves stay free and open-minded. The Seer of Breath might have struggles when it comes to the idea of truly being free or having complete independence, possibly because they came from a place where they were always under a watchful eye or had a very strict guide to follow for life, and now they have complete control over everything and it scares them.
They can see all their options and paths for life laid out in front of them, but whether they choose one lifestyle and stick to it or whether they bounce between multiple is unknown and only for the Seer to decide. The Seer of Breath isn’t attached to people or ideas, rather they’re attached to the idea of having complete control over nearly every aspect in their own life.
The Seer of Breath is a great listener, they’re great at solving problems, and they’re great at joking about very serious topics like it’s nothing. They don’t really worry about anything, being able to see their problems from a bird’s-eye-view and trace the way to the solution like it’s a paper maze, but their real problem is trying to keep their head out of the clouds, in both a metaphorical and possibly a literal sense as well. The Seer of Breath is likely charismatic and friendly, a sociable person, but not one that will stick around for long, because it’s always just a matter of time before they get bored of their current life and understanding before they move onto something completely different again.
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en8y · 1 year ago
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[IMAGE ID: three horizontal flags with nine stripes; each flag has the breath aspect symbol in the center; two horizontal wavy light blue lines, resembling a stylized gust of wind. it is outlined in medium blue. the middle stripe is twice as large as the rest of them, which are equally sized. the first flag has these top three colors: dull green, warm grey, and dull yellow-orange. the second flag has these top three colors: medium green, dark cool green, and deep purple. the third flag has these top three colors: bright purple, bright cool pink, and bright teal. each flag has these bottom six stripes: medium blue, off-white, medium blue, cool blue, dull light blue, and bright light blue. END ID.]
breathasirogue: a gender connected to being a rogue of breath; this gender is connected to the breath aspect, breath aspect aesthetics, rogue aesthetics, chaoticness, and xenzh genders!
breathasylph: a gender connected to being a sylph of breath; this gender is connected to the breath aspect, breath aspect aesthetics, sylph aesthetics, elemental, airy, or ethereal aesthetics, and nadelvinity!
breathaseer: a gender connected to being a seer of breath; this gender is connected to the breath aspect, breath aspect aesthetics, fortune-telling or prophetic aesthetics, and oracrinity!
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