#ST:ID is going to kill me
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if he had a chance to see this is what he would be doing today as who he used to be before Khan happened, he’d freak out & fly to the next galaxy. instead of wallowing in pity, he blindly follows his feelings for the blonde like they are the north star, perhaps he’s too intense, a bit too soon, but he’s SURE of what they have that he no longer sees a reason to stop.
he let his issues & insecurities hurt them enough.
❝ a few more WEEKS ?! jesus . . . ❞ his voice picks up, a slow shake of his head in disapproval followed by a scoff. he knows this is a TRAP already, one that he will willingly walk into.
❝ i’m gonna have to go against what i said and ask you out RIGHT NOW. all bets are off if i can’t be close to you. too bad, again. ❞ as soon as she leans back, he flops & lays down, his head fallen on her lap, his ten fingers lacing together against his own chest. he looks up at her with a heavy expression.
he needs to stop using that too often. ❝ so, uh, what do you say ? wanna go out with me ? say . . . next Friday ? for dinner ? ❞ Jim asks, then adds on without skipping a beat. not like she will say no to him. ❝ there are a few things i gotta take care of before it happens. otherwise i’d ask you to go TONIGHT. i can’t half-ass this though. i want to make it special. ❞
FOR SOME REASON, IT FEELS as if her all emotions are currently sitting on her chest, making it impossible for her to convey how she's feeling. a part of her can sense the little bit of hesitation left somewhere deep inside. casual optimism is how she had approached anything involving James. apparently, all the years of holding back won't be easy to SHAKE OFF.
he's patient, waiting for her to slowly come around to his displays of affection. all she wants to do is bury her face against his neck, but she can't. the SOFT kiss lulls her worries, making her smile back at him.
❛ well, i have been waiting all these years, so a few more weeks won't kill me. ❜ Carol replies, holding his gaze. ❛ although i am curious as to where you plan on taking me . . . ❜ he's done several gestures for her over the years, so she knows he can be quite METICULOUS when it comes to showing his affection. ❛ not that it matters, i just want to be with you. ❜
she takes a deep breath, trying to relax, knowing there's no reason for her to be so nervous. ❛ i guess that means we can't get handsy until we go on that date . . . ❜ her tone is light, fingertips running down his arm. ❛ that's too bad. ❜
she kisses his cheek before leaning back against her seat. ❛ i suggest we keep a DISTANCE from each other then. guess that means i can't spend the night here. ❜ who is she kidding ? they can't last very long.
#danversiism#the contrast between this and before#ST:ID is going to kill me#| V: ★ STAR TREK BEYOND ( ACT : 3 )#| ★ KIRKVERS
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star trek into darkness
okay so I’m watching st:id again after all my AMAZINGG back and forth on AUs with @starlightandsunshine centering on the emotional aftermath of this movie, and I now have several (many) meta thoughts
Soo I’m thinking about how
Jim actually opens up emotionally to uhura after blowing everyone else off, also lets her wave him off in the middle of the mission to fight with her boyfriend, and then takes her side in the argument. THEY ARE FRIENDS AND LIKE EACH OTHER, I will not be accepting any other canon, ever.
He makes chekov (19 y/old????? fucking hell) chief of engineering after soctty leaves; is it because keenser was next in line and quit too? or is it because kirk roots his command in personal decisions and trusts chekov more than anyone else to do what he needs? he only bonds with marcus when marcus mentions how he was (ostensibly) the one to talk pike into joining starfleet. Poor Chekov, he literally did not deserve this stress.
I’ll bet you anything that Jim when Pike took the enterprise from him, even as Jim was angry, he never once, not for a second, regretted what he did. He’d lose the enterprise a thousand times over to save spock’s life. to save any of their lives. (ignore me and you will get everyone on this ship killed, Khan says, and Jim turns right back around, pissed as hell, because Khan has observed him for five minutes and had him clocked COLD. he knows that’s Jim’s one huge button)
Deeply enjoyed how Spock got back at Jim for his teasing about Carol, the new science officer, by not telling jim shit about her deception “until it became relevant.” don’t ever tell me spock’s a robot because he enjoys antagonizing jim just as much as jim enjoys antagonizing him
the enterprise deserves someone in that chair that knows what he’s doing. that’s not me. that’s you, spock. Do you ever think about how Jim literally abdicated the captain-ship during this movie? idk if that was him 619ing, or him maybe...agreeing with what Pike told him, before he died. That Jim wasn’t ready for command, didn’t deserve it, that he wasn’t capable of upholding the mission and protecting his crew (clearly, since he almost got them all killed, in Jim’s mind). Jim is...literally admitting that he doesn’t think he’s worthy of being captain, and that Spock should take his job. that’s fucked up, especially given that he goes and basically commits suicide an hour later. (they give spock a line at the end of the movie to show that spock thinks that bullshit: as a mission of this duration has never been attempted, I defer to your good judgement, captain. really, though, Spock’s face as Jim essentially makes him captain-captain is kind of devastating; like Spock had no idea Jim felt this way or harbored these insecurities)
I’d totally missed, up until this point, that Jim was the one who suggested this mission to Marcus in the first place!! Like holy shit, talk about feeling guilty. Marcus sure as hell took advantage of it, and it’s largely his fault, but Jim was the one who walked up to the head of starfleet and straight up asked for an off-books incursion into enemy territory for revenge. You can’t tell me that Jim doesn’t take that whole burden onto his shoulders, given that he, again, pretty quickly afterwards commits suicide via warp core.
This crew all loves each other SO FUCKING MUCH. And the also love their captain. Jim says “hey chekov i know you’re a navigator and 19 but be my CEO” and chekov’s like “yikes, sure!” Jim randomly comms Scotty, who just quit and is drunk, and Scotty drops everything to go break into a secure starfleet base behind Jupiter and literally save everyone.
And they spend this whole movie trying to pull Jim back together after all this shit, losing the enterprise and Pike dying. Bones fusses over his health and flirts with Carol to exasperate him, Spock makes it clear he’s unequivocally on Jim’s side while kicking him in the ass over his dumb decision making to get his brain working again. Uhura acknowledges his loss and commiserates with him over spock being...spock. Chekov and Scotty go waaaaaay out of their comfort zones without question because he needs them, no questions. Sulu is his amazing damn self and literally the entire ship would fall apart without him, and I like to think if he’d had more time he would have dragged Jim into some sparring to let it out in a way that doesn’t involve, you know, klingons.
all due respect commander, but we’re not going anywhere. how is sulu consistently the best part of every single movie?? I love him
and this...this is what you would have done. don’t fucking tell me Jim doesn’t know what happened in TOS, don’t you fucking dare, because Jim in this moment chose to take spock’s place. i want you to know why I couldn’t let you die. FUCK Jim knows for sure, for sure. UGH.
Okay but Scotty doesn’t even have to say anything to Spock beyond telling him to get down to engineering; he knew exactly what that meant. Knew it meant Jim was dying or dead. Because every single one of the bridge crew knows about Jim’s self-sacrificial tendencies; they were devastated, but not surprised, not at all, because aos!Jim learned the day he was born that the best way to show someone you love them is to die for them. And he loves them. so much. god, Bones’ face when they bring Jim’s body in is haunting. Uhura gripping her mouth, because there aren’t words. Scotty crying his eyes out. Spock...going feral pre-surak vulcan on everyone.
And then the whole bridge crew is so fucking furious that Khan, directly or indirectly, took advantage of those tendencies, that they all help Spock go fucking feral and absolutely would have helped him murder Khan if they didn’t need him to get Jim back.
This concludes my mostly angsty thoughts about ST:ID and how it relates to aos!Jim’s angst ridden ass and the bridge crew’s relationships therein. will definitely be playing into the next round of time travel au discussion for sure
#this is being posted mostly because I need to have it somewhere to access#too many thoughts too little brain space guys#i need more processing and memory power#star trek#star trek: into darkness#jim kirk#spock#nyota uhura#pavel chekov#hikaru sulu#hikaru sulu could kick your ass any day jim#ooo i've used that tag before nice#angst#death#self-sacrificing idiots#feel free to ignore this is all coming back in different forms later
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Kirk’s 15 minute revival in ST:ID: Explained
One part of me doesn’t know why I have the explain it. The other part of me shares everyone’s anger. BUT, because I am annoying and refuse to let go of any criticism people give the reboots, here we are.
Into Darkness flipped Wrath of Khan. We all know that. Instead of Spock dying, it was Kirk. Many of the lines were nearly the exact same; the entire plot was very similar. Broadly, the only thing that changed was the revival scene.
Spock stayed dead until the whole ass next movie when it’s discovered “oh yes genesis made him alive again BUT he’s a child lol”. Into Darkness couldn’t last ten minutes with their main character dead without going “btw Khans blood can bring people back.”
Into Darkness couldn’t last ten minutes with their main character dead
Their MAIN CHARACTER
That’s the sole reason right there, folks. You can’t kill of the main character unless you plan on someone taking up their mantle, even if it’s only for a half of a movie.
They could be a bit more free with Spock since he isn’t the MAIN main character. The movie could go on without him. Without Kirk, it would feel incomplete.
Reviving Spock after fifteen minutes wouldve been undercutting the sadness. Alternatively, keeping AOS Kirk dead for an entire movie would’ve resulted in some angry fans and a rather empty ending.
Also, for a more technical answer, killing off ur main character in today’s movies results in an INSTANT low rating. Directors and producers have to think of both the fans and the critics. A low rating means ur career can plummet and ur franchise put to an end
So yeah. There’s my reasoning
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