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holliano · 5 months ago
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seleleor · 1 year ago
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Finn variations! (this time in color!)
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Finn's children, Jay and Bonnie -- we've seen them before!
Finn has two children, Jay and Bonnie, with Rosalinen in season five's "Puhoy." Jay and Bonnie are also the names of two of Farmworld Finn's children in Fionna and Cake "Destiny". [Clip]
"Puhoy" was an important episode for us theorists back in the day. It foreshadowed the loss of Finn's arm and featured the first appearance of GOLB. In this episode, Finn dies of old age in the pillow world, harmlessly bounces off of GOLB's tongue, and reawakens in Ooo as a kid again.
The pillow world, be it a dream or a pocket dimension, is certainly not Ooo. It operates as it's own world with a unique history and landscape.
In "Puhoy", we can surmise that Finn named his children after his memories of Jake and Princess Bubblegum. It's unclear exactly where the names came from in Farmworld/"Destiny". We also don't know the identity of the mother of Farmworld Finn's children.
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Here are Jay and Bonnie as children (pictured here with an adult Finn and Roselinen)...
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And as teens resembling their counterparts in F+C's "Destiny" (with elderly Finn and Rosalinen).
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And finally, Jay and Bonnie as seen in Fionna and Cake "Destiny".
With only eight currently released episodes of Fionna and Cake, it will be interesting to see what other callbacks to the main series remain. Our knowledge of GOLB has certainly changed a lot since his first appearance back in season five.
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da-mous · 2 years ago
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My Read of Puhoy! :)
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Hey pizza babies! Puhoy is an often praised Adventure Time episode, and I've seen a few analysis videos on it, but I've never really felt satisfied by any of them, so I wanted to put my own thoughts on the episode in writing somewhere. After all, the episode turned 10 just two days ago!
So, right away, I think this episode is about Finn letting go of the simplistic understanding of the world he had as a younger kid throughout the first few seasons. In the early episodes, Finn has an extremely black and white perspective. Stealing is always bad, everyone's problems can always be solved, and good and evil are clearly delineated categories
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Puhoy opens with an establishing shot showing a knife storm raging outside the tree fort. This calls back to "Rainy Day Daydream," an episode where Jake's imagination becomes reality. Puhoy also plays with the line between imagination and reality, and, while this post isn't about trying to explain the pillow world lore-wise, I think the knife storm's appearance suggests that the pillow world was created by Finn's imagination, which is very thematically in line with the rest of my read on Puhoy
Finn starts the episode in a funk because he's convinced Flame Princess doesn't like him anymore, just because she didn't laugh at one of his jokes. I think this conflict illustrates that Finn doesn't know how to separate his feelings from reality. He imagines FP doesn't like him, and he's unable to conceptualize anything else. In the simple, ideal world in Finn's young mind, she would have laughed if she liked him. There isn't room for the nuance that maybe she just didn't get it
Jake is able to see that Finn is completely making up this problem, but his solution of ignoring his feelings, demonstrated by hurling his favorite cup out the window, is pretty unhelpful. In the end, even Jake can't let go that easily, and he fishes his cup back up
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Fortunately, instead of trying to hurl his feelings out the window, Finn decides to crawl into the pillow fort to let his thoughts "fester," and Jake perfectly illustrates the difference between their approaches by telling Finn that festering is always bad. Jake wants to move on from things immediately, without having a moment to sit with or say goodbye to his feelings
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The pillow world Finn ends up in reflects the simplistic worldview he needs to let go of. It represents the fantasy that he, until now, thought his life would play out like. He easily slays a pillow dragon, immediately wins the adoration of the pillow people, and wastes basically no time hitting it off with a pillow girl. Years pass and we see a strapping, idealized older Finn living a simple, cushy life providing for his pillow nuclear family
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There's no horror to Puhoy. No dark turn, no sudden twist. Finn gets to live an entire, comfortable, satisfying lifetime in his idealized fantasy world, right up until he simply dies of old age, at which point he finally "wakes up" and finds himself back home
Puhoy feels, to me, like a twist on a common trope in fiction. Typically, like the island of the lotus eaters in the Odyssey, a world as cushy and idealized as the pillow world is presented as a trap of some kind, and the "right" choice is to resist the temptation. These stories usually suggest that there's something wrong with choosing a simple life, like it's ultimately unfulfilling or hollow in some way. But Puhoy doesn't moralize about Finn's life in the pillow world. He comes off as certain the entire time that he does want to find a way to go home, but as the years pass and he forgets what home even looked like, he ends up making the choice to stay, and it comes off to me as entirely reasonable. He has an entire life here, meanwhile he can't even remember what Jake looks like. Why should he throw all this away to return to the people from his past?
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Puhoy is the ultimate wish fulfillment. It can be hard to let go of what the world looked like when you saw it through the eyes of a child. It can be hard to accept the complexities and terrors of the world. It can be hard to even understand why you would want to see the world as a difficult, uncertain, complicated place. If I were once again Finn's age and you'd asked me if I wanted to live out an entire, satisfying lifetime in the world I thought I lived in as a kid, I would be extremely tempted to say yes. Only then might I be able to move on with my real life without eternally mourning the honey-dipped worldview I was forced to outgrow, finally satisfied that I'd gotten to have my time with it
Once Finn winds up back home in his own time, he almost immediately forgets his life in the pillow world. Unlike Jake's cup, after living a full life there, it's truly gone and he truly doesn't care about it anymore, and so he's able to forget it entirely
FP calls Finn to tell him she finally understood his joke, which is a surprisingly convenient, external solution to Finn's internal problem, but he nonetheless comes off as if it never tore him up in the first place, as if, by leaving his simplistic perspective behind, he was able to develop a more mature perspective on his relationships with others
Thanks for reading!! :)))
I have an unspoken rule on this blog that it's strictly for the funny and only occasional self promotion, but I really wanted to write about this episode. Usually I write more analytical stuff like this on my devblog, but cartoons isn't video games! If I keep wanting to write stuff like this, maybe I'll make a sideblog to put that stuff in 🤔
By the way, I think of Puhoy as part of a trilogy with Dungeon Train and Hall of Egress. They're all important journeys along Finn's larger journey of growing up, and they're all framed by Finn trying to deal with rough feelings surrounding FP. The latter two are more overtly connected to each other, but Hall of Egress does have what I think is meant as a reference to Puhoy, where Finn emerges from the Hall by poking his head through the dirt on top of the hill it's under, the same way he emerges from the pillow fort at the end of Puhoy! Maybe one day I'll write about those episodes too. I have a lot to say about Finn's arc throughout the show in general, so I could even do a post about that :)
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genekies · 1 year ago
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I'm thinking of putting Adventure Time title cards on my walls? I have 50 that I'm thinking of but I'll probably narrow it down a bit
I know I'm definitely doing these tho
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vampireopossum · 1 year ago
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finn the human’s canon event is losing his right arm . it happens literally no matter what
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shr3dhead · 1 year ago
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ppl have probably noticed this b4 ive just never seen anyone talk abt it so FINN LOST HIS ARM IN THE PILLOW WORLD?? the pillow prosthetic is so silly lol and grown up finn’s voice is sooo much deeper than the other times we’ve seen him as an adult it threw me off
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spiderh0rse · 1 year ago
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The Bonnies!
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callingallcrabapples · 1 year ago
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more adventure time doodles!! i love this show
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chikinan · 1 year ago
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How's fionna and cake so basic "these characters change positions on the stairs so they're visually in equal footing, just like we said out loud a minute ago". Remember when adventure time had simon emerge from a pool mirroring the moon card in the marseille tarot muttering something inaudible (that turned out to be the episode's title) then cut to betty howling in despair. And you just had to go "oh she jumped into the deep end even though she can't swim and will drown" all on your own. at age 14.
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thecooler · 1 year ago
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Finn 🤝 Bonnie
Coping with a fear of abandonment in ways that are increasingly obvious cries for help
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seleleor · 1 year ago
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Finn variations!
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yahoo201027 · 8 months ago
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Day in Fandom History: April 8…
Depressed by his feelings with Flame Princess, mainly due to her not laughing at his joke that was meant to make her laugh, Finn enters a pillow fort built by Jake where he enters a new world inside it and makes a new life for himself. “Puhoy” premiered on this day, 11 Years Ago.
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mourningmaybells · 1 year ago
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where's that theory that finn's entire family died because golb, destroyer of worlds visited finn in his head just as he was dying? anyways, the star trek episode that actually inspired puhoy was about a dying planet
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marscats37 · 1 year ago
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everyone's entitled to their opinions, especially for a children's show, but I'm not gonna take ur "top THIRTY episodes of adventure time" ranking seriously if you're not gonna include everything stays, min and marty, and hall of egress.
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vampireopossum · 1 year ago
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hey what gave them the right to make Puhoy as hard-hitting as it was . what the fuck you can’t just do that to me then brush it away
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