#Post-Covid & Flu Jab

[thunderbirdsera]

Sick & Hungry

Lady Penelope and I lay in bed, weak and heavy from the Covid jab we had yesterday. We were lying in bed snuffly, hot and achy, and I was silent as I lay my head on the satin pillow that held it up. Penny knew I was sick, and put her hand on her pillow. Slowly, I put my hand on her's, as if we are forever connected in a bond that would make us unbreakable.

Then, Lady Penelope spoke, her voice croaky and full of unease. "I'm so hungry..." she groaned, "What do you want to eat, my darling?" "Sausage rolls...pork cocktail sausages....chicken bites...." "Anything else?" I snuffled a bit, my brow all sweaty like a pig. "Ice cream...and also...I want a bottle of fizzy pop." "I'll ring for Parker and see if he can go to the shops to get some." So Lady Penelope did.

"You rang, m'lady?" asked Parker. Lady Penelope and I weakly told him about what he needed to get us, and he responded, "Okay, m'ladies, I'll be back with your goods in a couple of minutes. Try and get some rest now. Your jabs have had quite the effect on you."

As Parker left the room to change into his chauffeur uniform and head to the Co-Op, Penelope and I lay there and waited, our eyes bloodshot and cold. Well, at least we had each other for comfort and company.

[antennatoheaven]

>finally picks up a pencil after not drawing for a month

>immediately gets sick

[ancientgoldboundspirit]

// took nap, am Awake now, but writing will depend on how much my otc pain meds work--

[covid-safer-hotties]

Anything in the archives about the flu + covid booster jab, versus getting them done on separate days??? I've never gotten the flu jab, and only had the original double-covid + booster, back when they came out. But I'm thinking about getting the flu + covid jab next winter, since these last 2 winters I've gotten some kind of viral thing which has lasted weeks in one way or another & I'm so over it I don't want a repeat next winter

I'll see what I can dig up. Last I read, there's no statistically significant reason to split them up. There was some evidence that getting them in seperate arms increases uptake by a percentage or two, but again, not a reason to get them done on seperate days. I've gotten my covid and flu vax together every year they've been avaliable, and this year I managed to get novavax, and the flu shot was rougher. I think the one thing I can say but have less chance of laying a source on is don't take anti-inflammatories for the first day or so after a shot: your body having a reaction is what primes your immune system for the best uptake, and things like ibuprofen will dull that response. When we get virus achey, our first impulse is often reaching for the medicine cabinet, but resist that urge a little. That feeling post vaccination is your body getting a taste of sickness so it doesn't have to commit to 10 whole truckloads to learn a lesson. You're litterally feeling your immune system working. A bit of a ramble, but I'll try and track down some sources for this once I'm back on desktop.

[b-blushes]

hater moment (state of healthcare and policy in the uk)

the cognitive dissonance of getting a flier in the post from the pharmacy with the medications that i'm not well enough to physically go and collect from the pharmacy in person multiple times per month, advertising booking a flu jab early (aka pay for one) with the text "the best way to avoid flu is to get vaccinated", yet the availability of covid vaccines is soooo limited and you it is not even possible to *request* to have one if you're not on the tiny list of people that 'need it'. Cannot stress enough how narrow this list is. Maybe you can get one privately (pay for it), but you have to be in one of the again very limited areas that actually offer this service at a local pharmacy. BAD. IMO.

I get that it's a 'we offer this service give us money <3' from the pharmacy. regardless it really pisses me off. LET ME GET A COVID VACCINE. GIVE THEM TO EVERYONE FOR FREE. FUCK.

[justinspoliticalcorner]

Mark Lacour and Zebulon Bell at Misinformation Review:

[This study used data from pre- and post-COVID surveys to examine vaccine attitudes in the United States. We found evidence consistent with an ideological “spillover” effect: Liberals’ attitudes became more positive towards non-COVID vaccines (flu, MMR, HPV, chickenpox) and conservatives’ attitudes became more negative. These spillover effects are perplexing because the COVID-19 vaccines were developed more rapidly than the others and (some of them) were the first to use mRNA technology on a mass scale to achieve immunization. Hence, there were reasons to isolate one’s attitudes towards the COVID-19 vaccines rather than generalize them. This exacerbates current vaccine communication challenges.]

[...]

Negative spillover effects are unfortunate because people theoretically had reasons to isolate their attitudes towards the COVID-19 vaccines from other vaccines rather than generalize them. For one, the COVID-19 vaccines were developed more quickly than the others, which is one of the sources of COVID-19 NVAs in the general population (Kreps et al., 2021). Some COVID-19 vaccines were also the first to use mRNA to create immunity on a large scale (Anand & Stahel, 2021). The mRNA components in these vaccines are entirely safe and are quickly destroyed within a few days of injection. However, some members of the public mistakenly believe that mRNA-based vaccines can alter their DNA and many organizations (e.g., Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [2023]) have had to debunk this misconception.

Negative spillover effects are particularly regrettable because each vaccine already presented its own unique set of difficulties in terms of boosting vaccination rates. For example, some people harbor false beliefs that the MMR vaccines cause autism (Leask et al., 2012). By contrast, the HPV vaccine can prompt uncomfortable conversations about sexually transmitted diseases for children ages 11 to 12 years old (Daley et al., 2010). The chickenpox vaccine might seem unnecessary to many parents because they grew up during a period when children were intentionally infected with chickenpox, sometimes at “chickenpox parties” (Parad, 2012). Parents might, therefore, under-appreciate warnings from experts about the risks of chickenpox.

Post-pandemic vaccine advocacy

Since the COVID-19 pandemic, there have been two shifts in vaccine hesitancy that we think are particularly worth highlighting: a change in scale and a change in demography. First, there was a dramatic increase in vaccine refusal in the United States during and after the COVID-19 pandemic (Bolsen & Palm, 2022; Hart et al., 2020; Monroe & Savillo, 2021; Wood & Brumfiel, 2021). In fact, before the pandemic, inequalities in healthcare access likely overshadowed NVAs as a source of under-vaccination (Leask et al., 2012; Monais, 2019; Fuchs & Dicara, 2019).

The second major shift concerns demography. Before the pandemic, no single NVA group in the United States constituted a clear demographic majority. In many respects, NVA groups aligned demographically with liberals (Tomeny et al., 2017; Lubrano, 2019). Others had religious or philosophical motivations behind their NVAs, largely unrelated to politics (“A jab in time,” 2016). Before the pandemic, conservatives were just as likely to receive a flu vaccine as liberals (Enten, 2021). After the pandemic, conservatives appear to make up a majority of NVA groups in the United States (Wood & Brumfiel, 2021). This shift is likely due to political polarization surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States. Then-President Trump downplayed the severity of the virus (Oprysko, 2020) and conservative media outlets were overwhelmingly negative towards the COVID-19 vaccines, questioning their safety and necessity (Monroe & Savillo, 2021). Politically red states ended up having the lowest COVID-19 vaccination rates and the highest COVID-19 death tolls (Wood & Brumfiel, 2021). If there has indeed been a negative spillover effect among U.S. conservatives, this suggests that the previous obstacles related to specific vaccines are now amplified by partisanship and political identity.

Leveraging misinformation research

The primary findings of this study are consistent with a spillover effect, where people generalized their attitudes (good or bad) towards the COVID-19 vaccines to unrelated vaccines. There are a number of potential cognitive explanations for this. For instance, it might have occurred because of an inductive inference (Davis et al., 2017; Tapp et al., 2018; Davis et al., 2020). Some people may have thought, “If most vaccines are safe and effective, then the COVID-19 vaccine will be too.” By contrast, others might have inferred something along the lines of, “Since the COVID-19 vaccines are unsafe and ineffective, other vaccines must be too.”

A similar explanation is that people remember the “gist” of COVID-19 information (or misinformation) after forgetting the specific (verbatim) information (fuzzy-trace theory;1Reyna et al., 2021). In other words, people with NVAs might have heard several specific statements about vaccines, but the details of these statements might have faded over time. All that is left over is the “gist” of this information: “Vaccines are bad” (or “good,” depending on one’s media diet). For someone with NVAs, then, no specific statement justifies their attitudes. Rather, the “gist” of many statements has left a generally negative impression. Thus, debunking specific claims in order to vindicate vaccines might fail to compensate for the influence left over from a larger number of negative, if poorly remembered, statements that seem to discredit said vaccines.

Negative spillover effects could also be explained by right-leaning media outlets repeating false or misleading information about the COVID-19 vaccines (Monroe & Savillo, 2021). The “illusory truth effect” occurs when false statements appear more plausible merely because they have been repeated. This is often attributed to subjective feelings of familiarity and ease of processing (cognitive fluency) caused by the repetitions (Brashier & Marsh, 2020). Thus, it is important to counter misinformation without repeating the original falsehoods.

According to a recent report in the Harvard Kennedy School’s Misinformation Review, politically-polarized attitudes towards the COVID-19 vaccine have increasingly spilled over to other vaccines, with liberals becoming increasingly pro-vaccine and conservatives becoming increasingly anti-vaccine.

[suzieb-fit]

Salmon and half a boiled egg with a few grapes seemed like a good idea at the time for my first meal of the day.

Nope. Waaaaay too much.

I'll stick to my nuts in future, thank you very much!

I'm not so good at the moment. Been a bit "off" for a few days. No doubt hormonal. Being post menopausal hasn't stopped my body following the old cycle rythmn, lol. All I'm missing is the actual period and sore boobs 😂.

Plus I've now got a sore post-jab arm. Yep, I am one of those lunatics that has the covid booster. Ooh, hope I don't drop dead with all this stuff running through my system!! Haha. Hey, believe what you want to believe, we all think and feel differently. That's fine. I am just putting a light hearted slant to the whole subject. That's what I do.

But as someone in the "clinically vulnerable" catagory, I wouldn't dream of going without them. I also have the annual flu jab.

I'm surprised I'm still alive at all! (There goes that sarcastic humour again....) 🤔😋

Busy day ahead, so it's a bit of a 50/50 day.

Only 30 minutes out this morning, and two online client training sessions. One at either end of the day. As Bugs Bunny was apt to say- "That's All, Folks!!".

[landgraabbed]

oh yeah no posts tomorrow!! my queue ran out and i just had the double flu & covid jab and have a busy start of the week tomorrow so i'll prolly only queue shit tuesday onwards. have fun ✌��

[dosesofcommonsense]

Common Sense Still Lacking in Medicine

Does anyone remember that the Covid Test, the ones used at doctor's offices, were recalled by the FDA? What were they recalled for? For being egregiously inaccurate. Yes, the FDA, the group who gladly uses us as test subjects for all the over the counter "health" products at your local gnc-type stores actually had to pull the Covid tests for their inaccuracy!

At that point, all the Covid testing became free. Why? Cause the tests don't work. Better said, they cannot distinguish between Covid, the Flu, a False Positive, a False Negative, and anything else. The maker of the test then came out and said, "I told people the test was a bad indicator of ID'ing the virus, because the test was largely inaccurate."

So, what are we still using to ID Covid? A doctor's office test and an at-home Covid test. Why? Anyone? Anyone? MONEY.

Why money? So you can take the anti-viral for Covid. Heads up. An anti-viral works before you might have the virus, not while you have the virus. Tami-Flu is a preventative. It doesn't rush you through having the flu when you already have it. The covid-specific medicine works the same way, but - since most people don't know that - they pay for the "meds helping Covid go away faster". We still don't know what all was in those injections, though we're learning more about what might happen after you took 1-5 doses. Would you want to try the medicine "helping you get over Covid faster" from the same people who made the vaccines? Us neither.

Now, when my wife's sick, running fever, sinus issues, she does what every responsible person does: set up a Tele-Med appointment. What does that doctor say? Pick up a Covid test and make sure you don't have it, but - and I quote "the Test doesn't really test for Covid". Yes, she really said that.

Wait, you want me to buy a test that has been removed from the market for its inaccuracy, an inaccuracy so large even the FDA pulled it from the market, and go by that test to check if I have the virus?

"What happens if it's negative?" asks my wife.

"Then we treat for everything, since Covid, the Flu, a Sinus Infection, Strep and some others all overlap." Hold up. Go back to where we were. Does this gal even hear what she's telling my wife?!

Can we employ some basic, essential, desperately needed, seemingly-uncommon sense?!

First, she's already had the original strain of Covid. She was inoculated. She's in the safest population group from getting covid, other than those people who haven't been injected with the poison jabs.

Besides fever, chills, feeling lethargic, feeling ill, and a runny nose, what are the distinguishing factors of each possibility?

Covid - loss of taste and or smell, though usually both. That's not loss of smell from a stuffy nose, but an actual loss of you can't smell or taste anything. Can you smell crap? Yes. You don't have Covid.

Flu - Body aches. Does you body feel like it boxed Mike Tyson in his prime or did a 2 hour full body workout for the first time in years? No? It's not the flu.

Sinus Infection - post nasal drip, chest congestion, sinus pressure, headache, disturbing amounts of greenish sludge; lots of Kleenex

Strep - sore, raw like it's been beaten with a meat tenderizer throat, difficulty swallowing, hurts like crazy when you cough

Random virus - fever, runny nose, cough and you feel like crap but don't test or meet those other symptoms; ie: you have a cold.

Allergies - an overlap of every possible symptom minus the fever

What are her symptoms? post nasal drip, chest congestion, sinus pressure

Do you need a doctorate to figure this out?

WHERE HAS COMMON SENSE GONE IN MOST GENERAL PRACTITIONERS? Follow the money.

[nature-guy1]

All these years on Tumblr and now I will start posting. I had a flu bug that I picked up from a neighbor who was helping on repairing a classic old 1984 vw diesel jetta. I am adding a electric drive to it to have a hybrid. He had just received a covid booster. I am unvaxed and am highly allergic to any needle jabs. Up until this last Illness my immune system worked just fine. I am now better and in more ways than one. I also lost 30 lbs in the last month! It is like I took 10 to 15 years off my age! Back pain no more! Since I am on custom special natural vitamins i have noticed darker hair growth, thicker beard growth. Although I can't get past the 3 week itchy stage drives me nuts. So today it get shaven off. Soon back to the gym to deal with some saggy skin and get my strength back. I had originally joined this as a alternate to F. B. I am a single guy who is open to relationships. I have dated CIS women in my past. Still interested in them but as long as I am attracted to a person (chemistry matters) I am willing to date a Transgender pre opp or post opp. I think HRT is a good thing. As well as top surgery. As for bottom surgery that kinda brings tears to my eyes. As that is a one way point of no return. I would love the person the way they are. The way the world is right now It would be unfair to bring children into this hate filled world. Adoption is a possibility to help out. Well there is! Love you all out there! 🥰

[thunderbirdsera]

Parker Comforts You When You're Ill

"Oi....wake up, milady. Oh dear...you seem very warm. And your eyes are heavy. Heavy enough to even close early. I'm no doctor, but it seems like your Covid jab has got the best of you. I can tell by that massive lump on your arm. It's a shame what Covid and flu jabs can do to your body. Luckily, your family sent me here to see how you're getting on while they're out with some important business to attend to.

So, I've brought you your favourite liquid medicine to cheer you up. It's strawberry flavoured, so I think you may appreciate that it tastes nice. Drink up.

Mmmmm, I can see you're feeling better right away. What your family told me to do is make sure you get plenty of rest, because for a jab like this, it can make you very weak. Weak as a - *gasps*.

Wha-a hug? Aaaaawww, that's so nice of you. You know, I haven't been hugged by a child like you in quite a while. Mind you don't get your jab germs all over me, though, I don't want to catch your illness. *chuckles*. Oh, I can see you're feeling tired already. Now it's time for bed.

*Parker kisses you goodnight* Sleep tight, don't let those nasty bugs bite. And remember, even though your arm may hurt, the lump will go away sooner or later as far as I can remember.....I love you, miss."

[sorenthelegend]

Editing my reblog to clarify - as far as I can see, the programme is being modified to be more like the flu jab by focusing on the higher clinical risk groups (e.g. the elderly, people who are higher-risk for developing severe illness, people who work or live with people who are immunocompromised, or are pregnant, etc.). If you’re not in one of these groups go get your booster if you can, but they’re not completely stopping vaccination

hey UK followers, go get your covid boosters ASAP before these bastards take away yet another covid protection. jfc

[leprivatebanker]

BioNTech/Pfizer Covid and flu combo vaccine falters in late-stage trial

Jab makers fall behind Moderna in post-pandemic market with disappointing results

[covid-safer-hotties]

Also preserved on our archive

"If your child has mild symptoms... they can go to school or childcare." We're BEYOND cooked...

By Ben Hurst

Health officials have warned that the number of Covid patients in hospital has increased, with deaths rising by over 25 per cent. Scientists are currently investigating the potential risks associated with the XEC variant.

Doctors have noted a surge in respiratory viral infections such as colds, flu and Covid, as the nation battles with the 'lurgy'. The UK Health Security Agency's latest update revealed that positive testing rates had climbed to 14.6%, up from 13.5% the previous week.

This figure is based on the percentage of people who test positive in hospital settings. Hospitalisations due to COVID-19 saw a slight increase to 4.64 per 100,000, compared to 4.46 per 100,000 the previous week.

This marks a sharp rise from 3.72 per 100,000 just two weeks ago. Cases have risen by 17.8% to 3,496 in the seven days leading up to October 9.

In the most recent week for which figures are available, ending October 4, there were 163 deaths - an increase of 27.3%. The latest figures show 2,622 patients in hospital with Covid, a six per cent increase, with 68 acute respiratory incidents related to Covid reported.

Positive test rates were highest among those aged 85 or older, with a weekly average positivity rate of 23.7%, marking an increase from the previous week. The North East currently has the highest hospital admission rate at 8.91 per 100,000.

Those aged 85 years and over had the highest hospital admission rate, remaining stable at 52.65 per 100,000 compared with 51.28 in the previous week.

As autumn's chill takes hold, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) is urging those eligible for vaccination to get their winter boosters. Figures up to the end of week 41 reveal that uptake rates sit at 8.5% for people under 65 years in clinical risk groups and 24.7% for those over 65 years in England.

Dr Jamie Lopez Bernal, a Consultant Epidemiologist at the UKHSA, was quoted saying: "If you're eligible to get vaccinated against the three main winter threats – COVID-19, flu and RSV – now is the time to take them up and get winter strong."

He further explained, "We understand people may be concerned about new variants. Our surveillance shows that where covid cases are sequenced, around 1 in 10 are the 'XEC' lineage. Current information doesn't suggest we should be more concerned about this variant but we are monitoring this closely. The most important thing to do is to get your vaccination as soon as possible if you're eligible."

For those experiencing symptoms such as a high temperature, cough, and general malaise potentially indicative of flu or COVID-19, the advice remains cautious: limit contact with others, particularly the susceptible. Although self-isolation rules have been relaxed, NHS guidance recommends staying home and minimizing social interactions for five days post-testing and ten days for contact with those at increased risk following a positive result.

A new COVID-19 variant identified as XEC, initially detected in Germany in June, has made its way into the UK, Denmark, and the United States. According to Monica Gandhi, professor of medicine at the University of California, it presents symptoms very reminiscent of previous variants, including sore throat, cough, body aches, fever, and loss of sense of smell and appetite.

This Omicron subvariant is spreading swiftly across Europe. However, vaccines are expected to provide protection against severe cases in a similar manner to past experiences with other strains.

Gandhi said: "There is no evidence that the symptoms caused by [new variants] differ from the symptoms caused by other Omicron subvariants. The symptoms seem to be the same as with other recent subvariants of Omicron."

She goes on to emphasise that there is minimal cause for alarm about XEC, stating: "I am not very concerned about the new variant because COVID-19 is not an eradicable virus (it is found in too many animal reservoirs for one thing, with rapid evolution in animals such as deer) so we will always see new subvariants."

Symptoms Symptoms of XEC are thought to be similar to other strains of Covid and can include:

A high temperature or shivering (chills) – a high temperature means you feel hot to touch on your chest or back (you do not need to measure your temperature) A new, continuous cough – this means coughing a lot for more than an hour, or three or more coughing episodes in 24 hours A loss or change to your sense of smell or taste Shortness of breath Feeling tired or exhausted An aching body A headache A sore throat A blocked or runny nose Loss of appetite Diarrhoea Feeling sick or being sick What to do if you have Covid symptoms Even if you don’t take a Covid test, the NHS has recommended that you try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people if you have symptoms and either:

Have a high temperature Or do not feel well enough to go to work, school or do your normal activities. “You can go back to your normal activities when you feel better or do not have a high temperature,” the NHS says on its website. “If your child has mild symptoms such as a runny nose, sore throat or mild cough, and they feel well enough, they can go to school or childcare.”

[deblala]

https://www.infowars.com/posts/big-pharma-rebranding-failed-pharmaceutical-products-with-new-covid-flu-double-jab/

[demifiendcruithne]

okay, i'm curious if the pcos actually helped me here. i got both covid and flu jabs over the last week.

i'm afab and---wow i just did the translation to lbs and almost 250, i approximated by doubling. but yeah. they didn't ask for recent weight or anything so i. presumably got whatever the standard needle is here (uk) which i'm GUESSING would be the 1-inch. so above the 200 for estrogen-based but below the 260 for testosterone-based.

what does using the 1-inch instead of the 1.5-inch actually do? because nothing was different to any previous jabs - though i haven't been below that weight since i was a kid which might affect things here. the second (flu) jab was in my right arm even - my left arm was still swollen from the covid jab like three days prior. maybe that's an effect but my left arm is also hecked up so

i'm wondering if this means i got to get the t-levels looked into. mostly for knowledge

(sorry for slightly rambling on your post)

reminder: if you're getting an intramuscular injection (e.g. a covid booster or flu shot) and you're above 200 lbs with estrogen-based body fat distribution or 260 lbs with testosterone-based body fat distribution, you should be requesting a 1.5-inch/38mm needle. you might want to print out this sheet and bring it with you, because I have had pharmacy employees blithely tell me the 1-inch needle is fine for everyone, and I find a clear directive from the CDC just makes life a little easier.