#Or other teen wolf ships because screw it

[definitively-different-drivel]

Mildly terrified but here's my listing for fandom trumps hate!

[prismatica-the-strange]

Ok but there is no reason why a Teen Wolf x The Librarians Crossover wouldn't work like... The clippings book knew that Beacon Hills would be saved by the pack so no real reason to send Librarians...

[vryivs]

finally posting my hsr age hcs

(note: these are all physical age only for obvious reasons)

notes below the cut (any i havent elaborated on are just there for vibes)

i know we joke that welt is a grandpa (because he is), herrscher shenanigans make me think he doesnt look much older than his early 40s (in alien space he canonically looks really young for a professor which is why i think theres some aging shenanigans occurring)

nat basically raised seele and seele is a young woman so nat has to be at least 40

i feel like as the resident milf and dilf gallagher and yukong are self explanatory

jade is a senior in the ipc and that doesnt happen over night, plus it seems like she was already fairly senior when a (potentially teenage?) aventurine met her

blade was old before he was de-aged and idk why the powers that be would be worried about youthful beauty so i think hed have gone back to his physical prime rather than early adulthood, and all the best blacksmiths ive met have been late 30s/early 40s

kafka imo is close to 40 because i like to hc that she mostly raised us

i just like the idea that a pretty blond twink can be pushing 40

serval is old enough to be friends with someone's mother, but bronya wasnt adopted as a baby so i think theres some wiggle room with cocolia being slightly older than serval that could plausibly put her in the early 30s bracket

sampo because of his long legacy of crime

all the xianzhou natives (homo celestiae) i imagine would stop aging entirely in their early-mid 30s. fu xuan is just short (sidebar, i have many questions about the xianzhou world building but thats for a diff post)

ruan mei could be a xianzhou native but personally i rather interpret her as a normal abundance abomination species since she has a home 'planet' and not a home 'ship'. anyway her aging is probably screwed in a similar way to xianzhou natives regardless since she seems a similar age to herta, who is over 200

himeko because i feel like she's older than her hi3 version

i didnt pay that much attention but i vaguely recall ratio being especially accomplished for his age, which makes me think he's fairly young, along with aventurine

asta is renowned enough to run a research base, so i would imagine shes old enough to have a phd

gepard only seems to be a couple years younger than serval

topaz also is notably young to be in the position she is

silver wolf noted to not be a child anymore, which makes me think she's only recently an adult.

trailblaze trio all come across as younger adults, although i imagine dan heng is slightly older than the other two, and march is the youngest

sushang came of age recently as per the letter from her mother, and gui is her bestie, so theyre probably similar ages

arlan imo isnt massively young, hes just transgender

i feel like xianzhou native aging slows exponentially until it stops which is what makes me think qingque is in her early 20s physically despite being over 100 years old

firefly's body slowing down over time probably includes aging so although she's old enough to be in glamoth's iron cavalry, i imagine she's physically fairly young looking

pela is canonically 16 and lynx is her best friend

these guys all strike me as being early teens (what with yanqing being 14 and the rest sharing a height and a model with him)

the babies are self explanatory

[artaxlivs]

20 Questions for Writers

Tagged by @eriquin. Thank you!

1. How many works do you have on AO3? Forty-Five

2. What's your total AO3 word count? 419,731

3. What fandoms do you write for? Stranger Things, Marvel (specifically Hawkeye based), & recently, Teen Wolf

4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos? (all Stranger Things)

Destroy the Silence (Drummer Steve)

An Accidental Flogging

The Second Worst Trip to Mordor Ever Taken

Even Flowers Have Their Dangers

Screw Todd, Steve's Her (His) Daddy Now

5. Do you respond to comments? Always

6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? It's not angsty but this one will ruin your day and it's only 442 words: i was afraid to follow

7. What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? Almost all of my fics have happy endings but I am told that Something to Tweet About is a sticky sweet happy ending.

8. Do you get hate on fics? No but I don't write anything polarizing.

9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? Ohhhh I write smut. 😘

10. Do you write crossovers? Not really. I write "Fandom A in Fandom B's world" types sometimes but the characters don't crossover. I wrote a Dirty Dancing Stranger Things called Nobody's Baby.

11. Are any of your fics converted into podfics? Yes! I have two by amazing podders that I'm incredibly grateful to - check them out!

Destroy the Silence read by @rufusbear

Let Me Be Your Man (I Want to Hold Your Hand) by @thirdeye1234 (RattleandHum on Ao3)

12. Have you ever had a fic translated? My Destroy the Silence is currently being translated into Russian (It's not up yet or I'd link it!)

13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? Nope.

14. What’s your all time favorite ship? Winterhawk (Hawkeye and the Winter Soldier)

15. What’s a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? Listen - don't come at me. I'm gonna finish all my WIPs, okay?

16. What are your writing strengths? Mmmm, story pacing, dialogue, good banter, humor, fluff, consent communication, character development and somehow working music into most of my fics.

17. What are your writing weaknesses? visual world building. I have aphantasia so sometimes I'll just forget to describe the world around them because I can't see it anyway.

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? I think a few common words here and there are fine but not full sentences of a language you don't speak. Advice from Brandon Sanderson that I write by: be vague or you create plot holes and inconsistencies.

19. First fandom you wrote for? Winterhawk

20. Favorite fic you’ve written? Loaded question here. I'm gonna say two. My first is actually a Steve Rogers/Clint Barton series where Clint is a soldier and meets Steve Rogers during the war - he falls from the train, not Bucky. It's called A Bird By Any Other Name and I love it. My second is Even Flowers Have Their Dangers which is Stranger Things rewrite of the end of S4 and what I think S5 would look like if Steve and the kids had turned into werewolves in the tunnels in S2.

No pressure tags: @betrayedbycinnamon @carcrash429 @noxnthea @there-must-be-a-lock @river9noble

[ksbbb]

ur okay to answer all of the questions? 🤭😅😆

😂😂😂 for you? I will 🫂

list 3 positive things about your current fandom(s)? A lot of material to work with considering we have to fill in gaps. Multiple characters to use. Lost of works to explore and plus there’s so many head canons that you can get lost and have a whole day to fill. 😂 they finished the show too. I will add that. Some shows get canceled.

A head cannon you weren’t sure about at first but you have come to like?

Liam not being able to cook. It sounds silly but at first I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and I enjoy the thought of Theo being the cook and perfectionist with it.

a character that fandom has helped you appreciate?

Derek Hale. LISTEN. Don’t come for me. Originally I didn’t like Derek because he was mean to Scott at first and I didn’t like how he threw Isaac out of the loft with no place to go. 😤 however, I’ve come to the conclusion through the fandom that he has grown and he went through a lot. He also did come back to help Scott.

say something nice about a ship you don't ship (it can be another ship in your fandom, a mutual's OTP, etc)

Stalia. Stiles helping Malia and them looking out for each other was always really sweet to me.

Something you see in fics a lot and love

Theo moving in with Liam. I think we have established this happened for real in our teen wolf world.

Something you see in art a lot and love

Theo and Liam in Theo’s truck driving around.

your favorite tropes to read/write/draw

Enemies to lovers

Sharing a bed

Reluctant friends/allies

you hope more people will come to appreciate ___ (a ship, a trope, an episode, etc)

Season 5 . Yes it was a little rough and a lot of holes, but we got Theo and the chimera pack. It also gave a horror type vibe which I loved .

Plus plus… we were introduced to

A ship that isn’t your OTP but you enjoy

Scisaac. I don’t think anything else needs to be said.

a blog (mutual or one you follow) that has made your fandom experience brighter

@thiamsxbitch @wolfboy88

If you’re a writer or an artist what work are you proud of making? 

Hmmm. I think I always come back to this but

your favorite type of fandom event (gift exchange, ship week, secret santa, prompt meme, etc)

Thiam gift exchange was fun. I also liked the thiam reverse big bang and seeing all the artwork

Compliment someone else in your fandom

Well… that’s hard fjfjfj. I like everyone but I will say that green zone is the best written fic I’ve read in a long time. @chasing-chimeras

A ship that always makes you smile 

Scira . 💙💙 so wholesome

A character that always makes you smile

Scott

A thing in canon that everyone loves that you also love

Morey. I mean, Jeff didn’t screw that up in in the show. The movie we won’t discuss .

tiny detail in canon that you want more people to appreciate

The development of Derek and Scott’s relationship from angry stand offish allies to brothers. I think it’s cute and now that I like Derek I love it. 😂

Your first fandom

Vampire diaries but I wasn’t a writer or artist for it

Your current fandom

Teen wolf

All American

Shadow and bone

Supernatural

a fandom you're not active in anymore but that you still really like

Vampire diaries

A fandom friend you have known the longest

@waterloou 🫂

the fandom you're curious about because of a mutual

Hmm 🤔 idk. I’d have to think but one tree hill has been on my mind to watch because of you @thiamsxbitch

how has fandom positively impacted your life?

I met some fantastic people and for that I will be eternally thankful

A piece of advice for taking care of yourself in fandom spaces?

Take breaks and don’t look at numbers. It’s easy to get lost in it but what’s important is that you enjoy what you’re doing. If you don’t like it and it becomes a constant stress for more likes or comments, then it’s time to step away.

It should be fun

[sterek-ao3feed-archive]

red hoodies and bronce daggers (the secrets you keep glow in the dark)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/52811566 by patolemus For a human, Stiles has never been as scared of the unknown as he should be. Always running towards danger, interested in things most people would tend to avoid. His curiosity and thirst for knowledge have often landed him in perilous situations. It’s no wonder he ended up to his ears deep into the supernatural business. And that’s fine. You have to have at least a few screws loose to survive the madness that are the creatures that go bump in the night. But even for a boy running with wolves, Stiles is strange.   Or   Derek notices things about their resident human that don’t quite make sense.   Or   Stiles is a demigod. Words: 6435, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English Fandoms: Teen Wolf (TV), Percy Jackson and the Olympians - Rick Riordan Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Stiles Stilinski, Derek Hale, Scott McCall (Teen Wolf), Allison Argent, Lydia Martin, Vernon Boyd, Erica Reyes, Jackson Whittemore, Isaac Lahey, Peter Hale, Cora Hale, Luke Castellan, Nico di Angelo, Percy Jackson, Annabeth Chase (Percy Jackson) Relationships: Derek Hale/Stiles Stilinski, Nico di Angelo & Stiles Stilinski, Percy Jackson & Stiles Stilinski, The Hale Pack & Stiles Stilinski Additional Tags: Demigod Stiles Stilinski, Mates Derek Hale/Stiles Stilinski, Pack Alpha Derek Hale, ignores the deaths up to season 3, and ignores canon after that because I can do what I want, Implied/Referenced Violence, nothing too bad, cryptid Stiles Stilinski, Established Derek Hale/Stiles Stilinski, Other Ships Not Mentioned in Tags, Background Relationships read it on AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/52811566

[pimento-playing-hopscotch]

hi there my darling. <3 i'm sorry it's rough lately. i come with questions about some fictional dudes you love.

🔪 What character are you defending with your life?  (I think I know!!! 🤭) 

🐠Give us a headcanon about (tk and Owen’s relationship)!

❤️ Favorite part of your favorite ship?

Hello lovely 🥰🥰 Thank you for putting up with me ♥️♥️

🔪- most likely yes it’s the one you think it is- I am the head of the Owen Strand defense squad.

Which it is an interesting time in the rewatch to be making this point (this is too big to put in parentheses yet here I go- season three did Owen so dirty- I know they were going for the therapy angle but we went from Owen attacked someone because he is spiraling from finding out he has cancer and- which I know this is dicey because people on here love them some Billy Tyson- but he’s just such a cartoonish mustache twirling villain- like he only got the job because Owen turned it down and the first thing he does is close the 126? That punch was more justified than Owen just punches everyone he has a disagreement with).

Oh bestie why would you do this to me lol- I can’t be normal about this topic 🫣🫣

But there is so much good in Owen and he sees so much good in other people; he sees someone who has never gotten approval from his father and whose job is telling him he screwed up big and tells him “no there should be more people in your profession like you, to hell with anyone who doesn’t agree your old man included�� He finds the youngest member of his firehouse sleeping in the gym and says I have an extra room, it’s yours, you can live here forever and that would be fine - he looks the lone survivor of a tragedy in the eye and says you deserve to be here but if you don’t get a handle on the guilt you feel because you’re here and they aren’t well it will consume you alive, I know this better than anyone”

Which is another thing- Owen definitely has chronic hero syndrome but Owen has also been the sole survivor so many times in his life and he fucking hates that- he couldn’t save his brother and ended his parents marriage; there were 14 guys who didn’t get to go home to their families when he did. And when guilt and grief and shame tried to swallow him up he let those feelings win for a while but I refuse to believe that he missed TK’s entire childhood because then, TK wouldn’t have wanted to go to work with that person-

Which is to say, he isn’t a perfect parent but damn he is a good one- and one thing for sure he never made his son feel like he couldn’t be who he was (or that he was such a disappointment that forcing himself to be straight was the answer). But Owen loves his kid and they are so close that TK is as fiercely protective of his dad as his dad is of him, which I feel you really don’t see too much of especially between a grown father and son (the closest I can come up with is Stiles and his father from Teen Wolf - even though Stiles is technically a teenager)

I’m sorry that was so unhinged- but I’ve written a quarter million words on this topic for a reason lol

🐠- (not gonna rant about how it’s that Owen was not completely absent from TK’s life after he turned seven, not gonna do it)

But in light of where the rewatch is, I will say that I HC that Owen and TK talked about TK’s sobriety after the Sadie incident (I’m sorry, I have had so many people try to nicely explain this choice to me but I can’t accept this; there is no reason this should count as a relapse because it was not a choice. If the choice was made for you, then it’s not relapsing). Which I headcanon- I have to believe this because season 3 took every time TK should have talked with his dad and then purposely refused to show it (literally, a man fired a gun into an ambulance TK was in and we didn’t even get a hug from that) so I have to believe that TK and Owen talked about it. Because Owen has seen TK relapse before and could have pointed out, “you didn’t do this. This wasn’t your fault. If you need to be mad at someone then be mad at me, but I don’t want you blaming yourself for this”. And TK pointing out that if not for Owen, he would’ve taken the drugs from the ambulance after Gwyn’s death, so even if what happened with Sadie wasn’t his fault those two incidents make him feel like he lost something and needs to get his feet on solid ground.

❤️ - (this will sound so stupid; which so has the rest of this lol) but I love that you really see Carlos and TK’s relationship develop and change. Like they were so bad at communicating things to each other (that break up was on both sides, you can never convince me that was all TK’s fault) but season four might be my favorite season because things come up and they work through them together (like 98% of the time, granted) and this may be too broad of an answer but it’s what I came up with.

Thank you for the asks- sorry for the rambles 🫣🫶♥️

[willel]

If I remember correctly you do not exactly ship Byler, right?

If you feel free to talk about this topic, I wanted to ask you something as a non-shipper; would you be okay with Will having a new boyfriend (even if we'll see Will and his boyfriend for a couple of episodes), or would you want him to just get over Mike but ultimately just be happy about himself and accepting himself?

I do not consider Byler possibly happening because i do not think it is going to. That's why I am just asking your opinion without including Byler as a possibility.

Ye, I don't ship any of the ships, though I make some exceptions for Jopper and a bit of Jancy. Now Lumax. Even with those, if they didn't end up together, I would not be bothered so you can see why I'm not sure if I can really call myself a shipper.

At the end of the day, I want these characters to be happy. I want them to feel personally fulfilled. I want them to feel accomplished and self assured. I don't want their happiness to depend on another person being with them romantically. I want them to have achieved SOME happiness, even if it's not ALL the happiness.

I, as a person, do not view having a romantic relationship as the end all be all of happiness. Even for characters whose entire story is about romance, I think there is more to be said about the other things they succeed in doing whether they "get the girl" (or boy) or not.

It doesn't matter to me if Will gets a boyfriend. It doesn't matter to me if El keeps a boyfriend. The "boyfriend" is just one possibility for their happiness, not the ultimate solution. In fact, it's such a tiny fraction that people decide to hone in on for some reason.

What I'm looking for is for Will to feel like he isn't a mistake. For him to feel safe telling his loved ones who he really is. (really hoping for Joyce in this case) For him to not be the third-wheel friend. For him to feel confident to speak his mind sooner before he explodes like he tends to do. I want him to feel like he's someone's first priority in a good way whether it's platonic or romantic. I want him to realize he can keep his old friends AND make new ones, he doesn't have to subject himself to this harsh loneliness.

As I stated in the past, I have no idea what the hell the writers are doing with the Byler/Mileven plot line and I think they already screwed it up beyond repair so I care about it even less now. To me, it looks nothing more than potential teenage drama Teen Wolf style or something. Or should I saw Twilight. Whichever is worse. Not necessarily because that's how it's written, but because of how it's been perceived by the fandom and how everyone has been behaving.

Will's story arc about his sexuality and slowly coming to terms with what he thinks is his place in the world is sad and so very interesting. Not to mention how this supernatural plot is wrapped up in his personal growth and trauma. The actual romantic part of it? Eh.... doesn't pull me. (and neither does El's lovelife)

Having read all that, I'm sure you and others can understand why a lot of people support something like Byler whether it happens or not, but also why there are plenty of other gateways that can lead to Will's happiness that can or won't include another guy. I don't know which is more likely.

I have no idea what the writers are doing with this dumb love triangle bonanza and I could've lived my life without it. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm not looking forward to the conclusion. I just know when season 5 hits, I will be blocking all the ship tags. My opinion doesn't matter at all. No ones does except the writing team and their whiteboard.

I'd like to leave off with this. Something I like to reiterate on all posts like this. CANON DOESN'T MATTER. If you ship a ship, then ship it. It's your business and no one else. No one can tell you what to like. There is no law on the books that you can only ship canon. I ship one of the biggest non-canon ships in history probably and we're chill and minding our own business even with canon people constantly spamming us or stealing our content for themselves.

So I'm just sayin', whatever side of this silly war you are on, you'll be way better off not bothering the other side and enjoying your own ship to the very end.

[sleepyowlwrites]

FTWT CCCLXXI

since I desire to watch Teen Wolf, Stargate SG-1 AND The Umbrella Academy, I am watching none of them, and instead I'm watching five minutes of random never have I ever episodes despite being actively annoyed by the characters. unrelated, I drew on my hand in green pen and it says "I am creation both haunted and holy" and what a line THAT is. (it's half-alive, you all should be listening to them) okay so tag now. @winterandwords @did-i-do-this-write

push (death story)

“It’s not really the Under, though. Space is pretty liminal here. Gravity is just a concept. If we push through the perceptions and find concrete substance, we’re really next to time. So even though you fell, it wasn’t really down. It was sideways. Not that it matters. However we are is what we perceive. It’s all the same in the end.”

“So this is-” Lawrence screws up his face, trying to think about any of that information in a way that sticks. “This is the Sideways? The Adjacent? The Next-Door?”

Din chuckles, or swallows their own teeth. Lawrence can’t tell from the sound. “You’re starting to understand.”

pull (city story d0)

When they pull up, there’s a group of guys loitering beside the door, smoking. One of them glances over and nods at Rune. Jet turns in time to see her roll her eyes while taking off her helmet.

“I thought you said no punching people.”

“I meant it!” Rune grabs his arm and holds it. “This is a gym. I full intend for us to punch bags made for punching.”

Jet shakes his arm but she doesn’t let go. What is happening?

The same guy wanders over from the rest, stomping out his cigarette on the pavement. “Hey, Rune. Who’s this?”

“This is Jet,” Rune answers, very blandly, like she doesn’t want to be conversing with him.

Oh good, Jet can already feel his instincts creeping up his spine. Days of peace are overrated. If they do end up punching people, he’s fine with that. “Nice to meet you,” he says, equally blandly.

lift (she stole the night from you, 2020)

she comes in quietly dripping black lace like ink off a letter left out in the rain and it drags behind her - staining the carpet, the walls; she lifts a finger to trace your expression like she wants to feel it deeper than her skin and it settles like a dust cloud over her hair - staining the strands, her neck;

carry (the chamber of restitution, 2011)

By silent consent, they stayed close together while trekking through another long white hallway after the red room. After arriving at the mouth of a cave-like staircase, Rothis took the lead, not because he thought Quileya was afraid, but because he didn't want to show his own fear. A brave face was almost as essential to a mission like this as bringing along the proper equipment. Not that it was wise to ignore caution when poking around in Its territory, but courage was often the most important tool a wizard could carry.

The staircase, besides being black and dark and wide enough only for two people to pass each other, also seemed endless. Around and around the two wizards stepped, with Rothis holding a wizard's light in one hand to show the way. Although he could not see her, Rothis knew that Quileya was preparing her spells, reciting in her head eight of nine words to a killing spell, or a shield spell, among others. He tried to do the same. If not for Quileya's interpretation of the pattern messages from the red room, he wouldn't have felt so nervous. But the words kept rebounding in his mind. Enter the chamber of restitution; the debt will be paid; life will end.

mountain (dreams, whispers, fireflies, 2017)

you are a leaf fall in autumn you are a wind down the mountain you are a heartache and you are a pretty pain

you are a warm fireplace you are affectionate nicknames you are a ship and you are an airplane

river (jasper and juniper, 2022)

We don't eat the fruit from the trees with red roots. We don't drink from the jasper waterfall. We walk down the hill in boots that take long strides, eating up the grass as we go. Daisies grow under the junipers down in the valley. They turn red up in the hill, where they drink the river and blush all day. It doesn't hurt them, just changes their face.

tree (the other colors might have been, but I didn't see them, 2021)

I lay back on sweaters that need mending and poke holes in the ceiling and when it starts raining I think maybe I’ll just drown now. Maybe there are new worlds at the bottom of the sea. My house is underwater when the sun comes back outside and I’ve grown roots. There is a tree poking out of my windows, draped in honeysuckle and last night’s noodles.

I dig my way out of the driveway and build a monument to myself in the snow. Winter was ages ago. I’m still sleeping it off.

dirt (guild story d0)

Sharp teeth sank into his skin, the pain a welcome respite from the darkness. Marz opened his eyes with a shuddering breath, his body quaking from the effort of it. Two bright blue eyes stare up at him, unblinking. A mangy street cat let out a half-hearted growl as it released its bite into Marz’s arm. As it backed away, Marz lifted that same arm up above his head, wondering at the smooth skin of it.

Hadn’t he just been covered in dirt? In his own blood?

The second realization jolted him upwards. Marz sat panting in the alley where he’d fallen, the ground cold and icy beneath him, the air frigid around him. He moved his limbs around. They all followed his commands, as energetic as ever, and none of them were covered in either dirt or blood. Instead, on his wrist sat a bracelet.

teeth, take, turn, time. BONUS: traipse, turmoil. @talesofsorrowandofruin @ink-fireplace-coffee @pepperdee @bloodlessheirbyjacques @asher-orion-writes OR ANYBODY

[mlobsters]

tw suicide

supernatural s8e19 taxi driver (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

what is this music, are we in a police procedural??? daily gripe that this show would have been so much better with a different score

all right a lot happening here. bobby's in hell??? the trial requires getting an innocent soul out of hell into heaven, well gee. what a COINKYDINK. but sam's off to do the quest by himself, dean must be freakin out

"so this is hell?" sure looks like purgatory. but that made me realize i hadn't determined if sam remembers the cage at all since castiel took the hallucinations etc away. has the show said?

SAM Wait. So you're not coming with me? AJAY Don't be ridiculous. Smuggling a mortal across the border is risky enough. But gate-crashing a Winchester into Hell seriously blows.

cute way to put it

KEVIN Just tell me when this all ends, 'cause that's the only thing I want to hear. DEAN No, like I told you before, this isn't going to end. Look, man, other guys, they got it easy, you know? It's all backyard barbecues and... bowling teams, but you and me? We got to carry a little extra weight. KEVIN I can't take it. DEAN Yes, you can. Hey, look at me. Now, this whole thing sucks. I know. But you suck it up and you push through because that's what we do. And when you get on board with that, the ride is a lot smoother. French fry?

dean channeling john winchester. also reminds me when dean was breaking down in the hospital after castiel told him he had to stop the apocalypse

from s4e16 on the head of a pin: DEAN Is it true? Did I break the first seal? Did I start all this? CASTIEL Yes. When we discovered Lilith's plan for you, we laid siege to hell and we fought our way to get to you before you— DEAN Jump-started the apocalypse. CASTIEL And we were too late. DEAN Why didn't you just leave me there, then? CASTIEL It's not blame that falls on you, Dean, it's fate. The righteous man who begins it is the only one who can finish it. You have to stop it.

just made me think about sam being the righteous man that stopped it.. anyway, what i was originally thinking about in contrast was how it continues:

DEAN Lucifer? The apocalypse? What does that mean? Hey! Don't you go disappearing on me, you son of a bitch. What does that mean! CASTIEL I don't know. DEAN Bull. CASTIEL I don't. Dean, they don't tell me much. I know our fate rests with you. DEAN Well, then you guys are screwed. I can't do it, Cas. It's too big. Alastair was right. I'm not all here. I'm not—I'm not strong enough. Well, I guess I'm not the man either of our dads wanted me to be. Find someone else. It's not me.

thought of that because it's such a similar situation. but i mean dean has been on this ride so many times... just recent iteration with frank telling him he's killing himself the way he's working after bobby died, to be professional and smile through it and fake you're fine (coincidentally it was the krissy/baby teen wolf paige episode s7e11)

oh sam. my emotional state is doing the work here for being traumatizing for sam to be wandering in, because the looks and sounds of hell here are very... xena production quality, just a little darker. though if sam doesn't remember the cage anymore, maybe there's no trauma to be had!

also, why did he take off his watch and put it on the wall, the watch specifically seems like a bad thing to remove? and what's that about hell time being different, so dean's 4 months was 40 years boop boop does that mean sam's gotta stay down there 117 days for 24 hours to pass topside? or does that only apply to being tortured. too high to logic (or my pet theory did they make that time inflation just for more dean whump and promptly forgot about it)

CROWLEY Something is going on. My Hellhound has been killed. Winchester jumbo size is trying to break into the mother ship.

low hanging fruit but i laughed

they really lean into benny talking to dean like a boyfriend

BENNY So good to hear your voice, Dean. I mean that. DEAN How you been? BENNY Oh, you know... I get by. DEAN I guess I let you down, huh? BENNY Look, I'm, uh... I'm just happy as hell to hear from you.

poor benny. so what, dean's gonna ask him to die to go to purgatory, help sam and bobby, take a ride in sam's arm back to earth? lol

oh benny. agh. feelings!

BENNY Wow. When Dean Winchester asks for a favor, he's not screwing around. DEAN Benny, sending you back there is the last thing I ever wanted to do. BENNY I know. I know. DEAN But my little brother is stuck down there. BENNY This would be the little brother who wants to kill me, right? DEAN You got access to the place. BENNY By "access," you mean "getting beheaded"? DEAN Yeah, you're right – it's too much. It's not like I've exactly been there for you lately. [DEAN's voice shakes.]

oh no. benny's gettin the ellen/jo/meg treatment too now. no wonder he's bein so charming and sweet, dean's being vulnerable..

BENNY Oh, you don't owe me nothing. Truth is, uh... I could use a break from all this. DEAN It really been that tough? BENNY I'm not a good fit, Dean. Not with vampires and, for sure, not with the humans. I don't belong. And after a while... that starts to wear on you. Right? Cry me a river. Like you need to listen to this. DEAN Well, when you get back up here, we're gonna fix all that, okay? BENNY When I get back? DEAN Yeah, you find the portal, and your ride out of Purgatory with Sam just like you did with me, okay? As soon as I send you back, I'm gonna haul my ass up to Maine, and I'm gonna be waiting there for you when you get topside. BENNY Yeah. That sounds like a plan, chief. Let's get on with it.

ok but talking like that is very... suicidal sounding. and clearly setting up that he's not going to come back. don't like it

sitting here thinking i wasn't expecting to have a sobbing breakdown over benny, why is this so much worse than jo and ellen. and i think it's because like, what he said. about not fitting in with anyone, how it wears on you. those are real life things we (i) deal with. that may also include suicidal ideation. it's not blowing up hellhounds with your daughter who died before she could set it off. yeah the supernatural aspect is what's causing those feelings, but those are very real life feelings too.

to deflect from how i am feeling, something something literally killing your ex to get your brotherhusband back. this is fucking awful.

BOBBY Dean spent a year in this place? SAM Running and fighting, all day, every day. BOBBY Must have been hell on you not being able to get him out all that time. You did try? SAM Look, Bobby, Dean and I had an agreement, okay? BOBBY I know that agreement. I taught you that agreement. That's a non-agreement.

bobby agrees it's out of character

and now benny gets to tell him that he's staying, right. like in the abyss

the abyss (1989)

least we got a hug out of it, i guess

blegh

(i'm a big bag of trauma over someone real close to me that died by suicide, combined with my own depression issues and sometimes stuff like this is a stab in the gut of all that)

[mikaharuka]

Ooh, I love Teen Wolf too! I’d definitely be interested in your fics for it. I’m more of a femslash fan myself, have a huge soft spot for Allydia in particular. Maybe because how different the fics are to the source material, it’s always made me a little nervous to consider writing for it, even though it’s one of my comfort fandoms, and I’ve had little ideas for it too, but they have never sprung into anything. The fics introduced me to the fandom, and it’s one that I’ll happily read fandom blind.

Heyo Iris - glad to see another Teen Wolf fan! That fandom was such a comfort zone before I got back into writing and lost my time~

(I made this post, briefly touching upon Teen Wolf and Apricity)

I love Allydia too! I love Allison and Lydia and their dynamic is perfect - the athletic/quick one and the intellectual/clever one? Amazing. I hate that canon screwed them over. They both deserved better.

Then and again, canon didn't really do anyone any favors... anyone except Scott McCall and his supporters (can you tell that I'm not a Scott fan? lol). Especially not Stiles and the Hales (Derek, Cora, and Peter)... and don't get me going on Talia and most of the Argents.

But yeah. Canon was a trashfire, and a total world overhaul and canon rewrite is so easy to do there... and now you can see why Twilight and Teen Wolf were the two fandoms I was choosing from.

I had a whole (rough) plan for Juugoya, just like I do with Apricity XD

Juugoya only had two primary ships, and one of them was Allydia! The other was Stiles and... a totally rewritten Peter who was aged down with a totally different backstory... who also had parts of canon Derek? But Derek also existed in that verse? I had a two-narrator approach - Stiles and Lydia. It was a wild concept with so many changes - to the same extent that Apricity's world was changed!

Sometimes I wonder what would've happened if I'd chosen Juugoya over Apricity... but I think I made the right decision. I was far more confident with the latter (I mean... Allydia and Steter are quite the huge pairs to write for!), and now look at me in my brainrot XD

I'm not going to write any Teen Wolf stuff any time soon, but who knows? I might incorporate some of the Juugoya stuff into Apricity (beyond the werewolf lore - that was heavily TW-influenced), or several years from now, I might take a stab at Juugoya and its verse.

Ah well, that'll be a ways away, if ever... but if you ever write Allydia or anything TW, I'd totally be down for it! I love them and the fandom!

[bokvshou]

i think young people in fandoms don't realize a lot of times older shippers actively want their ship to be just fanon, NOT canon, almost desperately. why? because sometimes you just know that if it's canon the writers are going to screw everything up.

i can use the teen wolf fandom as an example. regardless of whether you ship them or not, we have stiles and lydia wanting each other for 5 seasons, but when the writers finally decided to get them together in S6 it was... underwhelming, to say the least, because they didn't even do shit with the ship afterwards.

it was literally like 10 minutes screentime of the couple together (and by that I mean they kissed once and held hands like twice and that's it) and then fuck it, let's move on to something else. and the writers cared so little that in the movie they're not even together anymore for the most absurd reason possible.

many shippers don't want their otp ruined by staff mishandling the story. or because they know canon could stray too far from their own interpretation. so they prefer to stay in their happy corner shipping and playing with their fictional dolls and doing whatever they want with them.

maybe for young people it matters a lot if something is canon or not (even if it's just to show superiority or some shit like that) but for many others it's even a relief if their ship doesn't have anything to do with canon.

[msginnymalfoy]

I hate that the show creators are clearly listening to this and listening to the Sterek Shippers. I hate that they’re happy to pander to the character hate of anyone who dares to get between their preferred pairing and they’re willing to add to the slashbait and hints of this non-inclusion while continuing to keep the actual GBLT characters so very much in the background.

And I don’t even WANT Sterek to be cannon - not just because of the really screwed up way it has changed how the show has been viewed but because it’s an inherently problematic relationship. I do not want to see the oh-so-sweet relationship between a creepy man in his 20s and the 16 year old high school student  - no, no I do not.  I do not want to see a representation of a gay or bisexual man being a borderline sex predator, I do not want to see a continuation of the endless meme that gay and bi men are trying to recruit kids, preying on kids, corrupting kids or are otherwise harmful to kids. Even aside from that, Stiles and Derek show nothing like affection for each other; at best Derek regards Stiles with a level of contempt, at worst outright derision and he has smacked Stiles more than once. Sterek, if it were real, would not be a good representation.

Teen Wolf is an incredibly well acted, wonderful show with so many excellent elements and awesome characters all of which are often overlooked - or actively abused in the most vicious ways possible - in favour of the Sterek ship (this also includes neglecting not just a Latino lead but Danny who is also POC and in an actual gay relationship), which, frankly has zero canonical support except for some extremely unsubtle slashbaiting (even the slashbait wasn’t in the “ambiguous language and lingering looks” department - it was the slapstick forced physical contact backed up by the actors on that thrice damned boat).

I can only imagine how incredibly annoying it is to be Tyler Posey, with his talent and the performance he brings to Teen Wolf - or any of the actors on the show and the incredible performance they bring us and the great story it tells - and have all of that reduced to drooling over two characters getting it on who are hardly ever even seen together. Twisted? Yeah, pretty much.

WHAT A GREAT READ. every single thing SPOT ON! this was written in February, 2014 but still relevant and accurate. i love that these words are coming from gay man. sparky boy, this is great one! YOU SPILLED 👏👏👏

[madametamma]

You ever see something and wonder “Why don’t I love it?”

I think this episode has so many great things about it.

A haunted summer camp for teens?  With monsters in the woods and all that? Yes, please!  Why didn’t we get a Danny Phantom episode set in one sooner!  Think of the Friday the 13th references they could make!

 A genuine mystery involving people slowly disappearing? That’s great. I actually didn’t guess where it was going for a little while.

The return of Wolf and Walker, (who’s shown himself to be a pretty intimidating threat in previous episodes?)  I’m down.

By all accounts I should love this episode...  But it just didn’t really grab me and I had the hardest time figuring out why because all the right ingredients are there. After some thought I think the reason why is because the episode lacks focus.  In addition to what I just described above, this episode shows us:

Danny’s blink and you miss it character arc of learning to appreciate nature more.

Each of the side characters like the A listers, and the teacher’s reactions to the disappearances.

Sam’s disappointment over camp not being what she thought it would be.

and what feels like a whole lot Sam/Danny shipping moments that stick out because they add very little plot wise (And I’m personally a very ‘take it or leave it’ kind of person when it comes to Amethyst Ocean, but it annoyed me just how much it felt like the story’s pacing was coming to a halt to sprinkle those moments in there.)

And all of these elements compete with each other for time in this 19 minute episode.  The parts you’d think would get the most screen time feel rushed and there are a lot of scenes and jokes that should have been cut for time and because they stop the story’s momentum.

To me this episode almost feels like a great example of the writer’s advice ‘Kill your darlings’, meaning that sometimes you may write in scenes you really love but need to remove or tweak them because they don’t fit the story you’re trying to tell for various reasons.  There aren’t too many scenes I find out right terrible in this episode but there are plenty of scenes that could have been shortened or cut because they screw up the pacing and they’re not necessary for the plot in comparison to other scenes that could have used more attention. 

I would love to hear other people’s opinions on this.  Anyone really love this episode?  Dislikes it? Thinks it’s forgettable? Or are you like me and are frustrated with how good you could see this episode being but failing to live up to that?

[metagalacticx]

Teen Wolf

Scira

Mason

Favorite character: scott!

Least Favorite character: peter

5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): scira, thiam, scallison, berica, morey

Character I find most attractive: allison, violet

Character I would marry: none tbh

Character I would be best friends with: mason

a random thought: mason and lydia should have teamed up more, i refuse to believe they never had a conversation about her calling his name, and also by the end lydia was so concerned about everyone i think she would have talked to mason more

An unpopular opinion: scott got over what liam did too easily

My Canon OTP: scira

My Non-canon OTP: thiam but also sciles and allydia

Most Badass Character: scott

Most Epic Villain: monroe like i don’t think people appreciate her enough, and also the fact that she escaped and she’s a human? final girl!! who’s seeing her???

Pairing I am not a fan of: st*ter

Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): BOYD, because he shouldn’t have died. he should not have died. and the ‘it was worth it’ line was fucked up. also lydia.

Favourite Friendship: liam and mason

Character I most identify with: theo mason

Character I wish I could be: mason, but like, without the trauma??

scira

When I started shipping them: kira’s second ep

My thoughts: one of the best ships in the show, most definitely the healthiest, should have been endgame

What makes me happy about them: they’re both dorks in the most delicious ways. they love each other.

What makes me sad about them: kira leaving and NOT COMING BACK

Things done in fanfic that annoys me: scott moving on um kira not coming back fhdjjd

Things I look for in fanfic: i actually don’t read a lot of scira bc i rarely find good ones that’s just about them, but literally anything with them being happy together melts my dead heart

My wishlist: scira endgame

Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: no one, and i’m not joking.

My happily ever after for them: scira endgame, scott joining kira on her journey to self-discovery

mason

How I feel about this character: i love mason hewitt from the crown of my head to the sole of my feet. i think he’s one of the best characters on the show and a great example of how friends should support friends even when they’re cursed to become a monster.

Any/all the people I ship romantically with this character: corey, theo, liam

My favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: liam, violet, melissa, deaton, dr. geyer, hayden

My unpopular opinion about this character: he didn’t have as much character development as a huge part of the fandom pretends he did

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: literally i wish he was taken seriously enough as a member of the pack to have been in that final shot in 6b. he wasn’t there and after everything they went through i’m never going to shut up about how disrespectful it was. stiles did the whole ‘passing the torch’ thing with the bat as a metaphor and he was presented as a direct parallel to stiles in his friendship with liam and YET. where was he???

Favourite friendship for this character: liam/violet, and also lydia and kira and scott

My crossover ship: can’t think of any atm sry 😭

[nataliescatorccio]

About the lesser teen wolf movie that JD is trying to milk because he's got nothing without that show... and it's treatment of the wonderfully talented queen Arden, just wait until it sinks in that JD obviously introduced Asian characters without any intent to actually give them any sort of justifiable storyline -but solely to excuse his appropriation and bastardization of Asian mythology for his ridiculous teen show that did not care about anything other than glorifying violence and abusers, giving everyone untreated (and barely acknowledged) trauma, and getting adults portraying teens in as little clothes as possible. Character development and treating minorities with respect? Acknowledging their stories and culture through their respective lenses after introducing them? Caring about character arcs and relationships? Nah. We obviously just need a new bigger badder big bad and to show heavy make-out scenes.

Kira and her parents were JD's way of getting social 'permission' to steal ideas and once he told the story he wanted to tell (quite poorly in my humble opinion) he threw those characters away like they were trash. They meant nothing to him. If that's how JD "justifies" his monetization of a whole cultural situation, I'm not surprised by how he treated Kira's actress or the rest of the cast. From what little we've heard we can already guess he's a garbage human who uses and discards people without respect. No Sterek or other ship potential scenes or hints in that train wreck of a movie will be worth supporting that bastard's obvious money-grab. Plus I'm not a big fan of surprise kid characters anyway and much less of how JD treated beloved characters like Boyd, Erica, or Derek to accept any of his "canon" bull. The Sheriff's name is John, Erica, Allison, and BOYD are very much alive, Derek does not have a kid (especially not one conceived in whatever abusive/tragic way JD will undoubtedly love to burden his favorite punching bag with), no other actress should be portraying Kira, and JD should just let this show die a dishonorable death.

So much potential and great cast chemistry squandered on poorly thought out baddies and an egocentric dumbass in power who never understood the value of a good story over a generic "suspenseful thriller" or poorly thought-out "shocking twist," what a waste.

first let me just say this is such an eloquent and well put message!

but secondly, yes. honestly j*ff's treatment of minorities throughout the process of the show airing was bad enough. his treatment of kira and the yukimura's at the time really highlighted that - they were used to create arguably the best plotline teen wolf has ever done (although it's not true to the original folklore, most fans agree that was the best season of the show), and then promptly discarded when that was over with it being extremely clear j*ff had no idea what to do with them beyond that. the treatment of poc characters and cast members throughout the history of the show was horrendous - just another example is keahu who played danny who again, was written off without the actor being told he wasn't returning.

it's just especially disappointing that this movie was pushed and they were given the opportunity to do better. to treat arden properly and give kira the spotlight she deserved and her fans the closure needed to say goodbye to her (especially considering our kitsune is obviously key to this movies plotline!) and instead they just decided to screw her over and just write another character in her place, with another asian actress who they could justify paying as little as possible. how anyone could do that and how people could sit by and watch it happen is just disgusting.