#NOTE: MM Leo is not crushing on 2007 April

[anonyhun]

2007xMM crossover thoughts cause I'm trying to be sane(Part 1?)

Current state of affairs regarding the world and personal life got me anxious, so figured I'd destress via turtles. Why not.

Very messy but organized in a way that is hopefully coherent enough:

(Note: I treat 2007 like a mix of the 90's movies and Mirage with a hint of 2003 HOWEVER. I don't remember the 90's movies well and I still have to finish reading Mirage. I still have to finish rewatching 2003 either. SO, treat this as a mix of tones and concepts versus hard timeline/event stuff.)

(Some headcannons might sneak their way into this too.)

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--2007 is horrified to hear about what happened to MM. The big difference is that MM are genuinely just kids compared to them. 2007 are like Mirage in the sense that they've been raised in a very specific way that left very little space for them to be real teenagers. Seeing real ass kids go through what would have been another day for them makes it far more nightmare-ish, especially since 2007 are all adults too. The Adult Fear is Real. (It could be argued that Mirage Splinter did give Mirage free-time and space to be their own people, but it is explicitly stated that he trained them to deadass kill Shredder. So I mean, take that as you will.)

--MM are all shocked and various forms of excited to meet 2007: MM Donnie points out that 2007 are basically anime versions of themselves which is accurate. They start to get a little concerned and suspicious though when their older selves get weirdly cagey about certain aspects of their lives. Most importantly, they're also intimidated in a way since they now have a very specific image of what they could be. Now they have something to potentially live up to, themselves to impress, and that's stressful.

--Splinter takes to MM very quickly. They're basically grandchildren to him. Again, MM are surprised but they aren't as intimidated as he is happy to meet them. MM Donnie tries out his japanese on him as he's been learning via anime. Splinter finds this very cute and considerate, so he teaches Donnie a little bit.

--MM is impressed at the size 2007's lair but they are told that 2007 lived in a much smaller lair growing up. #Fuck Mousers

--2007 Donnie thinks MM Donnie made their phones at first, but then MM Donnie comes back with "Wait, you made all of your tech??". They both get embarrassed. MM notice that 2007 all have Nokias which throws them off. (2007 have Nokias cause they regularly have to deal with wild shit, so they use the most durable phone of all time.)

--It's around this point that they realize that somehow, not only did they cross dimensions, but also went back into the early 2000's. This is its own uproar in itself.

--2007 get unironically called boomers and they have no idea what the fuck that means.

--"Have you guys ever killed people?" (2007 lie RIIIIP)

--MM meet Casey and April. MM Leo has no idea how to feel about his crush being so different in this dimension, let alone that she's with someone else. (He is not beating the No Rizz allegations.)

This is NOT the same April he knows and why exactly he expected to see that same April is beyond him.

--They do get to play some rad street hockey though. AND we get Clunk the Cat. (Mikey can't keep Clunk in the lair cause that'd be cruel, so Clunk waits outside until the turtles come up. He knows Casey and April too so he is very taken care of.)

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--2007 Raph gives MM the pure "Imma a cabbie from the BROOOOONX" treatment. They have a ball giving him things to say.

Really, 2007 Raph is going full Cool Uncle Mode cause he doesn't want to be intense or scary in any way. He's making absolutely sure not to fuck up. The rest of 2007 notice this but decide not to say anything.

--2007 Leo has no idea how to approach MM, especially MM Leo. MM Leo is his polar opposite and he can't wrap his head around it. Like? Is this really how he is?? Where did all the anxiety come from???

Seeing MM Leo get teased by his brothers regularly also makes him conflicted. Unfortunately he starts to get some of that treatment which he stoically bear to the best of his ability. 2007 Leo hasn't dealt with this sort of thing since arguably when they were younger.

--MM Raph is ecstatic to meet 2007 Raph since he's borderline the perfect self; cool, jacked, capable of acts of violence. 2007 Raph is concerned about this and tries to turn that thought process around. Like hey...that's not what it's about. Violence is not cool. (He would know...)

He also notes that MM Raph really doesn't have anger issues; it's more a need to blow off energy. MM don't really buy this cause he's in Cool Uncle Mode but 2007 Raph would also know what anger issues look like, so he drops it and works around it. Tries to stealth address it. (When 2007 learn that MM go to school, he learns MM Raph is part of the wrestling team. He's relieved to know this, though he's still worried.)

--MM Donnie and 2007 Donnie get along well enough. The contrast between 2007 Donnie being a super genius and MM Donnie being above normal tech savvy is what keeps them from completely connecting. MM Donnie justifies this by keeping in mind how anime 2007 is, and 2007 Donnie tries to bridge the gap by showing off his tech, explaining how it all works.

MM Donnie asks if 2007 Donnie has games on his computer. "This is the perfect streamer setup, c'mon man!". ("What is a streamer?")

--MM Mikey and 2007 Mikey are vibing all the way. 2007 Mikey is on the same level as Mondo Gecko. Perhaps more energetic, but just as open and friendly. (Bro got that ADHD.)

However, MM Mikey can see where 2007 Mikey is sort of trapped into being the kid brother. He's a team player and is always listening to what others ask him to do; he is the baby in the family setup and maybe isn't taken as seriously as he ought to be. (WOW! Reference to the intended sequel to 2007!!)

--As a whole MM notice that 2007's family dynamic is less affectionate? 2007 do love each other, but the team mentality they were raised with keeps them from connecting in some ways. MM don't see this though, so in their own little way, they try to therapy 2007 secretly. They are the same people right? Surely they would be the best people for the job.

This doesn't go as planned and it's really easy to see what their trying to do, but it gives 2007 something to think about. If their baby selves are seeing these issues, it's worth addressing. Not immediately, they are responsible for their younger selves while they're present, but definitely in the future. (MM Splinter and 2007 Splinter have a talk about raising the turtles which ends up with them having a similar conversation. I KNOW I haven't talked about them at all but MM Splinter and 2007 Splinter do meet each other.)

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HUFF

Well, there's my sanity partially restored. Kind of sort of. I want to try and keep writing some more but I am getting tired and am considering splitting this into two posts. I have so many thoughts. I would also like to apologize for focusing on 2007 more than MM. I grew up on 2007 so it's imbeded in my brain far more than MM.

I swear I have ideas from their point of view, I PROMISE.

ANYWAYS. I'M DONE.

[crayonnthief]

Sup, who's your favorite turtle, and why?

If I’m being REALLY specific, then 2007 raph.

This is due to him being my first favourite turtle ever. 2007 having been the first TMNT media I ever watched, when I was really young and is something I loved greatly.

I find a lot of depth within the film and love speaking on the complexity’s of the characters within the movie. (Raph and Leo’s complicated dynamic. You want to be pissed at Leo, sure he’s a hypocrite at many stages and lets his ego get in the way a few times, but you also need to understand his own self loathing. It was causing him to take out his anger on Raph putting up a front to be what he thought his family “needed”. Leo having deemed himself a “failure” and struggled to return because of that, seeing them “better without him” As well as raphs use of anger to mask emotions, clearly upset that Leo was gone for A YEAR longer then we was supposed to.

Caused so much heavy tension and stupid actions to occur. Leo could have been dead for all they knew having disappeared without a letter and the fact Leo did not address his absence clearly upset Raph, he was probably scared that he would note see his brother again, then Leo turns up and pretends like he never left? Raph wanted Leo to address the elephant in the room, but Leo never did. Not even by the end, they still seemed to dance around what happened, leading to an emotional tango. (There is much more I could go into. I could talk on and on about this movie)

Though I wish 2007 mikey and Donnie had more screen time, I actually LOVED 2007 Donnie (for some reason his voice actor just fit so well) plus the times he was on screen I found him funny, and if there was more complexity to the character shown, he would of 100% been my favourite.

But if I’m saying overall favourite turtle then My favourite is Donnie in most iterations.

It Varies sure 2012 Donnie, rise Donnie, 2003 Mikey, idw Donnie (I love metalhead ok. This might change the more I read) Mutant mayhem Donnie and 1987 raph (I’m not forgetting The last ronin, its just it’s focused on Mikey solely and I haven’t watched the Batman TMNT movie. I want too though)

(Tbh mm Donnie can be quite cringy but I just love his design sm)

I think I’m most attached to Donnie because of 2012 Donnie.

2012 was the first tv series I watched of TMNT (after 2007) and easily my favourite was Donnie. His loved for accuracy and fact, as well as overthinking and creativity, wanting structure and control, are things I relate to (not obsessing over a person though :/ that’s the only part I’m not a fan of, is Donnie’s crush on April and sure April did some questionable things but I don’t dislike her, cause people do dumb things sometimes)

I didn’t like her kissing him when he was FINALLY going to give up on her. But it was more a fault of poor writing (There is a lot of Poor writing in 2012 sadly)

Sorry for any spelling and/or grammar mistakes!

^^ im dyslexic please be kind.