#NONE OF THESE LABELS HAVE RULES! YOU CAN USE THEM HOWEVER THE FUCK U WANT!!!! i promise
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urfaveisaqueerdo · 2 years ago
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ppl when they see identities that don't conform to the belief that labels have strict universal rules and requirements: so what are the strict universal rules and requirements of these identities
LMFAO yeah
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transmasculinizing · 3 months ago
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HIP HIP HOORAY! THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN USING THE LANGUAGE OF HEART BUTTON. iv permission to be annoying!
so this has been brought to my attention after seeing the reaction to the new robin movie announcement. elseworlds has really fucked up dc fans understanding of how adaptations work im so serious.
im not saying this bc elseworlds stories r bad. quite the opposite i love these comics (batman n dracula trilogy u changed my brain chemistry ily bbgrl) no im entirely talking about elseworlds as a brand. i am talking about how these stories r marketed bc it has done irreparable damage im thinking.
so the thing about dc? they want u to know what a characters whole deal is. batmans real name is bruce wayne and hes a rich orphan who protects gotham city. superman is an alien whose planet blew up and he landed in kansas as a baby where he was given the name clark kent and was raised on a farm then he moved to metropolis to become a reporter. these characters have a certain way they hav to be and their stories r supposed to be. if ur adaptation of the story strays to far from this no problem we'll just label it as elseworlds. except not really they dont always do that.
case in point: the new robin movie that was literally just announced and doesnt even have a trailer yet. yeah well theyre making jason and dick around the same age. people cant be normal about this. "oh this will be so many peoples first introduction to the characters and this isnt how theyre supposed to be!" calm down. this is an all new version of the characters we havnt seen before. the point of an adaptation is not to be identical to the original. at that point just read the original. what do i mean by this? well-
another large franchise i love is godzilla. literally the only thing the godzilla movies and shows have in common is they have a giant lizard in them. you dont need to know what this guys whole deal is to call yourself a fan. do i highly recommend u watch the original 1954 movie and learn a bit about the history of the franchise if u got into it through some of the more recent godzilla media? yes but obviously i cant force u to do any of that. a lot of these movies straight up do not take place in the same universe. theyre different godzillas. one godzilla isnt "destroying" peoples perception of what godzilla is because its different from the original movie that has a completely different godzilla.
none the less before people jump to conclusions i want to make 1 thing clear: learn the rules before you break them. there have been changes made to the story before that i think r disrespectful to what the 1954 movie originally was. its easy to skim past if u dont know the characters history. for example in godzilla king of the monsters 2019 (and im not dunking on u if u like the movie bc i do also. that doesnt mean im not above criticizing it however) they have the only Japanese character get killed off by using a nuclear weapon to awaken godzilla.in this usamerican adaptation.of a movie that was made.as a metaphor for the bombings of Hiroshima.yeah that is a major yikes.
so yeah this is what i mean when i say learn the rules before you break them. it can be obvious that u either dont like what ur adapting or missing the point or just straight up havnt watched or read it none the less one adaptation doing things differently doesnt automatically mean its disrespecting the source material.
i think dc really shoots itself in the foot by making it so you have to know what every characters whole deal is and if u stray to far from that its labeled elseworlds. then when something isnt labeled as elseworlds fans get pissed at how inaccurate it is. monsterverse isnt marketed as "an alternate universe where godzilla is a million year old alien" its just godzilla. now u could say comparing this to godzilla is unfair because hes barely a character. hes a giant lizard and directors r supposed to play around with him like a barbie doll. so heres another comparison that ive already made a bunch
in mainline tmnt idw comics the turtles r reincarnated from a bunch of kids in medieval japan. this is not in any other version. in mutant mayhem the turtles go to school. this isnt in any other version. adaptations usually flip back and forth on if splinter is mutated hamato yoshi or hamato yoshi's mutated pet rat. the 4 main turtles personalities vary widely depending on adaptation bc "leader, angry, smart and funny" arent personality traits so much as they r quirks. depending on how old someone is they might have a different idea of what the lore of tmnt is if they arent super into the franchise and only know the show/movies/comics they grew up with. this is really not a big deal at all. two people having different ideas of what a character is like bc they were exposed to them from different adaptations is not as big of a deal as dc fans pretend it is. before the the tim burton movies a lot of peoples perception of batman came from the 66 show and that 1 is.very different from how the average joe would think of batman today. and that wasnt the end of the world either! again people can and should learn the history of these stories but complaining about how bad a version of the story a newcomer might like is bc its not like the one u like isnt going to make them wanna look deeper into the franchise. we should be calmly approaching these newer fans and giving recommendations and reading list if they show interest in a character or story
like literally there is a lot of criticism u could make about yjtv but it boils my blood how much bad faith criticism iv seen that can just be summarized as "this is not how this character should be". because i guess there r just definitive versions of characters now
look im not even saying if an adaptation is different u still have to like it. i actually hate a lot of adaptations bc theyre different from what i like. but the opposite is also true. there r adaptations i like bc what they do differently. something being different doesnt automatically make it good or bad is what im trying to say so now that brings us back to elseworlds.like not sorry it shouldve stayed dead.not the stories just the name elseworlds. i really dont like dc bringing back elseworlds. the whole concept just feels creatively limiting. these are just different continuities and should be treated as such. there being a certain way a story should be written and having to warn people if u stray to far away from that story and getting yelled at if u dont is what i mean! do u see the issue here am i making sense
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trueheda · 7 years ago
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i have a few issues with the world ELITE in regards to the roleplaying community. most in regards to he fact that when it is used it rarely takes into consideration those on one side of the isle ( mainly the labeled elite ). while i am not going to argue that the community does not marginalize as that would be a rather pointless argument ( and i myself have participated and do participate in this in my less than finest hours ) i have to add that the IDOL WORSHIP on this website has to stop. this is what contributes to the idea of an elite. the elite in any sense of the word come from people idolizing certain writers ( content creators, whatever you wish to call yourselves ) over others due to writing style, graphic creation, or other factors to the point that some urls have become kin to movie-star household names throughout this site right from under the writers without them having contributed to this phenomena. even now i can name you at least a few urls that i am not following that i know are considered part of this “ elite ” fun fact about the vast majority of these people. if you talk to them you’ll find out they’re literally the same as you and i. j.law put it wonderfully in regards to the idol worship of actors ---- “ i am just a normal girl and a human being ” ---- and that applies twicefold here on this site. because unlike actors, these aren’t our jobs. writing is a hobby that we all partake in together. and the fact that people have created barriers for themselves when talking to others on the basis of what they’ve heard about how    amazing   a writer that individual is is frankly ridiculous. 
now here go part two of this issue. judging someone based on their their theme. if you’re like me, theme is a big deal when i’m following a blog it doesn't have to be a fancy theme at all doesn’t have to have a container and a 100/10 background but i do require to see effort put into a theme if i’m following the blog, this means, a fancy theme or a well organized minimalist theme are going to get my attention and will likely be the only blogs i follow unless i explicitly get a recommendation from someone i know about a writer. why. because the more effort i see put into the blog, the more comfortable i am knowing that this character is just as important to you as they are going to become to me if we write. some people like to refer to this as elitism, in which case i’d have to question what group is it that you believe we are calling elite. i don’t consider myself better than other writers. i’ve come across blogs that have little effort in their themes, and amazing writing that i followed due to recommendation but then quickly unfollowed because i didn’t like the way the writer thought of their own character. however i acknowledge, the writer, was a much better writer than me. i understand they are allowed to view their character in any way they wish. but i have found a trend in blogs and choose to follow accordingly. its SELECTIVE but in no way is it me saying that people should all choose to follow blogs the way i do,  in no way am i saying that the way the blogs i choose to follow should be the way everyone should choose to follow blogs. there is nothing better about it, because some people enjoy a much more casual approach to roleplaying and that’s 1000/10 okay ! its 1000/10 probably much more healthy than how invested i am in my characters and i admire them for it. doesn’t mean i have to like how they treat their characters and follow them just because i think they’re cool and have cool writing. that’s not being elite.  now while i don’t care much about graphics and icons other people do, it’s their way of knowing something they may want to know about writers, or maybe it’s simply because they like a certain aesthetic on their dash. and yes that could be considered elitism, but again. most of these issues can be fixed by talking to a person. a quick, “ hey i know in your rule it says that you only write with people that format their posts / icons but i’m interested ” opens so many fucking doors. and the so called ‘elitism’ is really just an illusion.
BULLYING and elitism aren’t the same thing either. again reminder that i don’t see elitism as a problem in the community at all. but bullying has been on various occasions both overtly and indirectly. purposely marginalizing someone, that’s bullying, i myself admit to having participated in this and i do apologize for it. but it’s something the community does often and it needs to be addressed. anon-hate another very obvious issue in the roleplaying community, vauge blogging ( which i do way too often ) is another form of this as well. none of these imply elitism. all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares remember elementary school ?
and EVEN IF THERE WAS HEAVY ELITISM. ( because while i don’t think it’s a problem i acknowledge it does exist in the community ) well then too fucking bad. elitism exists in the outside world why wouldn't it exist in the online reflection of that world. get off your high horse thinking everything should be disnyfied and pave a way for yourself in this place. if we have overcome elitism in rl time and time again you can certainly do it online where all it takes is a few keystrokes to block / unfollow anyone u don’t like or send a hi to people you admire but think are being elitist assholes. 
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