#More Martyn lore and Owen lore for me
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moeruyami · 1 year ago
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Watch the pirates smp and I miss other Rats the aren't able to be part of it. As coping, I headcanon that everyone that isn't became pirate became a mermaid instead. Guarding the sea temple or heart of the sea or something. Another chance for sea sibling 👀.
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tubbytarchia · 7 months ago
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jim stream recap time....... so much happened. this is a long one.
jimmy logs onto sos and immediately decides to go to scotts dock to fish. scott comes over and he was acting a little weird buuut i think it was just him being. an actual guy instead of a streamer. jimmy asks him for a bday present (he asks for a fate coin. he asked every single person he saw today for a fate coin) and scott gives him some mob heads. fwhip comes over and gives him a diamond block for his bday. eloise turns up too.
scott gives jimmy a bday cake! jimmys not hungry so he takes his armour off and says "hit me" (notably while looking at eloise) and scott CRITS HIM and he goes down to 4 hearts ("you almost killed me on my birthday" "but i didnt!"). fwhip runs off to get a candle and they all start singing happy birthday. its very sweet if you ignore the fact he just almost died. jimmy wishes for a fate coin. they talk about the current challenge (villagers vs pillagers. the tldr is its basically among us) for a bit
saus turns up.......... he says hello sweet boy then gives him a birthday box (as seen below). the cod head is called codfather head and jimmy tells fwhip. fwhip immediately bans (and unbans) sausage for lore reasons. at some point oli logs on and saus says something about spanking him and fwhip bans saus again
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jimmy crosses the river to fish a little further away so he can thank donos while he fishes. fwhip enderpearls over and says "i missed you :]" and it was kinda cute. then he leaves this group to go home
on his way home he sees oli and shelby shubble on his bridge. he bothers both of them for a present and shelby asks if her bridge couns as a present. he said it does :] look how cute it is. cat bridge
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however immediately after he asks if she would give him a fate coin. they talk about it for a bit and they dont even come to a conclusion. shelby leaves and oli stays and they start discussing things to do for a talent show hosted by mog. they keep suggesting things that would be hard/impossible to do in minecraft. they keep referring to themselves as the blond boy friends
sausage shows up. oli turns him away saying "youre intruding on our blond boy friend time" and sausage asks if he can dye his hair and join. jimmy says "no clicks fingers" like outloud. they talk for a bit then jimmy leaves the bridge and goes to his house
oli and saus go to outside his house and in the 2 minutes jimmy wasnt there they started talking about anime. jimmy sets down sausages present, oli opens it, sees the cod head, and starts yelling lore at sausage who then leaves. oli and jimmy go to meet up with everyone else (fwhip, scott, sausage, owen, eloise, shubble. i think.) at fwhips village. theyre dealing with a raid however it ends like a minute after they arrive.
jimmy runs off to explore around fwhips place and scott follows him. they talk for like a minute about the villager/pillager thing then scott says "i know what you are" and runs off. someone in chat says sos more like sus and it makes jimmy laugh
DIRECT QUOTE IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS: ""scott just threatened you" to be fair he does that all the time. hes playing mind games. when is he not. he plays mind games all the time."
he goes home. sausage calls him beautiful in midair. oli goes home with him and they practise the talent show more. i still dont know whats happening there. they practice a synchronised dance and it goes about as well as you would think. jimmy does not like chocolate cake. he likes carrot cake and red velvet cake. olis hog is now canonically gay.
they start to make a song for the talent show and everyone interupts them. martyn raids oli and shubble turns up. important to note: oli calls martyn jimmys best friend. they practice the talent show more. theyre practising a magic trick where jimmys drowning and he eats a chorus fruit to escape. however he makes it out on one heart.
REALLY SORRY FOR THE LONG ASK. I TRIED TO MAKE IT AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE BUT SO MUCH HAPPENED THAT (I DECIDED) IS JUST IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO KEEP IN.
"its very sweet if you ignore the fact he just almost died." help. Also "blond boy friends" yeah okay Jimmy and Oli. okay
That's all-in-all nice though... Jimmy and fWhip being relatively cute... Even Sausage... even if my tension and anxiety spikes by 50 something each time he is in Jimmy's vicinity. The Oli stuff sounds adorable though... Blond boy friends... Scott um. I'd say at least he wasn't too obstructive or anything but he did almost kill Jimmy so uh. It is kind of funny though lol. It's so awesome for Jimmy to be blunt and largely unbothered though. This is what character progression looks like. Thank you for this stream report my faithful inbox guy
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my pirates death predictions tier list as of 4 dec 2023 lore (6 days until the end)
explanations under the cut
survival predictions
p!shelby survives purely on the basis of having skipped town offscreen. it would kinda be funny to me. if not that, she's a 50/50.
p!acho's chances are either dying in the kishi quest (for personal lore reasons) or in conjunction with p!scott (for familial lore reasons). with the current theory discussed on the powcreations discord (if both p!acho and p!apo survive the last lore stream, they end up on kishi island which they might have passed on their way to the ice wall), i personally doubt p!apo is gonna die.
i feel that to give p!apo a satisfactory ending, he's gonna have to have at least one more lore stream to tie up the loose ends. ESPECIALLY the alphie-related backstory and to have a satisfactory conclusion to the character arc. if p!acho dies in the kishi quest, p!apo is gonna survive.
i want p!el to have a happy resolution to her identity crisis. p!jojo is just there for vibes but at this point, "kill the cutie" could be in order for her.
either/or predictions
most of the 50/50 people aren't very active on the server and i jokingly call them cannon fodder bc of this; the rest are based purely on how much character lore they have (not much). p!water is there mainly because of the whole jeffery ordeal and i dunno if she's gonna live as a widow or join her hubby-that-could-have-been in the afterlife.
p!will and p!shep have upcoming lore tomorrow/day after (time zones are weird). p!shep is PROBABLY gonna survive it, given he's said on discord he'll livestream the finale, but i don't know if he'll make it PAST the finale.
p!graecie's chances of survival depend on the isles because her arc kinda ties into the nightingale faction leader thing. if the isles go down in the finale, she'll go down with them. if the isles make it out of the finale still standing, p!graecie MIGHT survive to grow as a leader in the in-universe future, but she might also die. if she dies, either p!acho or p!apo is gonna be left in charge, partially bc it would be funny but also partially for arc reasons.
p!owen skipped town back on nov 18 and i have no way of knowing if he's gonna live or die and i ain't gonna guesstimate that.
death predictions
with cc!scott dropping ominous lore hints in his most recent livestream (dec 3), P!SCOTT IS ALMOST DEFINITELY GOING TO DIE. probably to the cult, his parents (derog), or his own mental health issues, since those seem to be the biggest ongoing storylines for his character.
i've always envisioned p!michela to be on the chopping block ever since p!aimsey went missing due to entwined lore. but it's hard to say she's 99% gonna die when she has barely logged on in a long while, so yeah.
the only reason i put p!kuervo in 80% is because as a (fellow) totalitarian autocracy survivor, i want to hold out hope. but realistically speaking, with the stunt he pulled with the letter to the armada, he's more likely than not to end up executed. ESPECIALLY with the ending of his most recent livestream (dec 2). and also nov 18 ending.
i haven't watched p!kyle's most recent lore (nov 17) so this is based purely on vibes (legacy, what is a legacy) from what i know about that lore stream.
p!saus because evil sword lore. p!ros just has the "kill the cutie" vibes. also hunter (powcreations discord) predicts p!ros is gonna die in the process of trying to stop p!saus from turning full evil and i honestly think that tracks, esp since mufasa is out of the equation now (as of oct 30).
p!martyn is a weird case of "dying in the pirates universe and returning to the datastream". so he technically will die but also doesn't. i think it's the villain arc spurring me into this decision.
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probablyaseamonster · 1 year ago
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part 2 of my Pirates SMP theory
So last time I ended off on the realization that if the People of the Yellow Ship are basing their choices off of the character's backgrounds, then Scott is probably going to be the next victim (sorry people who are already attached to the Denholm brothers).
But regarding my joke about hair colour being the reason it can also work because. You know.
But now here's where I start theorizing about the future. I think, that the Kestrels will be eliminated first, or at least targeted the most overall. If this is how it goes than it implies that there is monetary gain to turning innocent pirates (haha, there's no such thing) to stone. Much like real cultists, there be gold to be given if you can just persuade 'em. I assume that Scott also comes from money so it would make sense in that context too. Owen also comes from money but I doubt he'll be targeted until towards the end, due to his main character energy.
Actually, it would be a subversion of tropes if Owen was picked off early. It would be an opportunity to make like a true DM and control the world from the aether. Make like a Grian and become a god of spectators. I doubt it will go this way but it would be an interesting choice.
If my theory of the Kestrels being picked off first turns out to be true more or less, than it would honestly be a waste. Starkid taught me that leaving the more unlikeable characters alive closer to the end (hi Ted) tends to be the right call. I think. I don't actually consume much horror media, I don't know how this works as well as most people. But it is interesting to me that the Kestrels are the only faction to not have been given a more favourable, positive value.
The Kites may be brutish murderers (at least to some) but they have honour, and passion. The Nightingales were mentioned once to value family, which combined with adventure is a combination of values I've never seen before. And the Herons are already pretty appealing to the Ravenclaws of us (sorry to invoke the worldbuilding of Miss Rowling). The Kestrels are really only mentioned to value wealth which, especially with much of the mcyt community being young anti-capitalists, already gives us a reason to dislike them. Especially with Sausage, Kyle and Oli really playing into the greedy rich man archetype, and Scar committing crimes of the stealing and scamming variety (although let's be honest, we can't hate Scar for that, if anything. There's a reason why most of the fanart so far has been about him and not the lesbian couple whose deaths kickstarted the lore, I see you all).
I haven't seen Martyn's POV yet so I don't know where his character lies on the spectrum, but Guqqie seems to be the only good member of the Kestrels, though even she dabbled a little in the casual blatant joking classism. With her gone, and Sausage seeming to consider himself leader (getting indignant when someone suggested that Jellie lead the Kestrels), the Kestrels might have an opportunity to corrupt and become even more villainous. It would seem like a waste if they were eliminated before they had a chance to become memorable villains, though maybe there is a reason for that. After all, one of the easiest ways to make a villain scarier is to have them kill the lesser villain off (some good examples are Toffee from Star VS and The Mayor from Lego Monkie Kid, even though Toffee didn't really kill Ludo).
Now if the People of the Yellow Ship (YES, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN) were smart, the faction they'd target next would be the one that poses the biggest threat. This could be two, really. The Kites pose the stronger physical threat, of course. They're all fighters, and the Kites seem to have the least qualms about killing, if things come to that. If it comes down to a physical altercation between Kites and Yellows, the Kites would presumably win (unless we simply haven't seen the true force of the People yet. That would be interesting, if the faction set up as the most physically powerful was less than the villains (after all, a Kite was the first to die to the vines), though I wouldn't expect that from fictional cultists. Something about them just gives a d&d wizard vibe, if you know what I mean)
The other next best choice to attempt to eliminate (assuming, of course, that the villains are tactical like this) would be the Herons. Discovery is literally in their bio, and they seem like the most likely to play detective. If the Herons discover what the People of the Yellow Ship are up to, then they could rally the entire rest of the Faction Isles, and all the pirates from all the other branches across the archipelago, to take down the threat of presumably smaller numbers (unless some don't believe them, or the writers want to make a political allegory and have them not be able to all come together even in crisis (I watched Don't Look Up yesterday.)). The People have a branch (if abandoned-looking) on the Isle itself, which might even mean that they have a spy on the inside, pardon the paranoia. But this gives the Herons an opportunity to investigate without even leaving home, which honestly must be terrifying for them.
The Nightingales have some overlap with the Herons, but they seem to value adventure more for the thrill, for the personal experience rather than documentation. The type to judge a Heron for taking pictures while on vacation, if it were a modern setting. Combine that with the fact that I haven't seen many Nightingales so far, and this makes it seem like they'd be the least threatening to the cult. The cult might even view the Nightingales as distractable bleeding-heart losers who care about family, yuck. /j This puts them at the least risk.
Now, who does that leave to be, if all goes to plan, the last one standing? HeyGraecie (I've never heard of you before, sorry), the only character revealed yet to have been a Nightingale since before this year's Factioning. And... Acho. The one who left the Herons for the "family" faction. The one who has a brother who will probably be targeted next.
Damn... between you, Acho, and Olive... I hope you both at least are allowed to attempt to be heroes.
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royallygray · 6 months ago
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Psst Royal
Do you wanna rant about anymore soul horizon lore? I would like to hear about soul horizon lore if you wanna ramble :D
Also would you like to read the essay I wrote about llkau Pearl's psychological truama and manipulation from her mother?
yes I am always down to rant about soul horizon lore. also YES I WANT PEARLS PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA HEHEHEHEHEHEH
Anyways hello. I am normal sized again wow.
Okay so personally--FUCK I HAVE A MEGA STUPID ASSIGNMENT IM GONNA NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT IN SOME AMOUNT OF TIME--i have recently been obsessed with soul horizon divorcée quartet.
THEYRE. SO FUCKING SPECIAL TO ME. BECAUSE THEYRE LOSERS
OMG OMG I NEED TO EXPLAIN THE EEP
WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE EEP WE CARE ABOUT SCOTT AND CLEO AND PEARL AND MARTYN
Scott and Cleo are canonically married. why did I do this, you may ask? tax benefits. and they were living with each other anyways. and also idk how marriage licenses work but it makes the pay a whole lot like even-er because Scott's a doctor and Cleo's a teacher
Well they're a college professor. idk how much more college professors get paid and I am too lazy to google it
hold on actually
ok so according to the first results: 96k to 300k per year which makes the second result so fucking sad like. the second result is 30k-97k a year. like. rip
compared to high school teachers: 45k-100k per year. Jesus Christ. and then the second result is 38k-46k.
rip teachers honestly
AYY SCOTT IS LOADED. I THINK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SHIT COSTS I HAVE NO LIFE EXPERIENCE I AM A BLOB FLOATING IN THE WIND DESPERATELY CLINGING TO LIFE
330k-630k. Yahoo. scott has it good. he's a surgeon because... I said so. he's like a surgeon but also a doctor. I think. mostly a surgeon tho but I am going to call him a doctor for the rest of this because in my mind he wears the coats. like a lab person. with cyan hair
SO. WHERE DO WE ACTUALLY BEGIN WITH THE LORE.
Well. It starts in elementary school. I... don't actually have lore for Cleo and Scott for this part but I do for Pearl and Martyn! So Pearl and Martyn are the same age, and they went to Evolution Elementary and Middle. They're in the same building. People just call it Evo
Also Jimmy barely made it through that school bc the year after he graduated it got shut down bc it was hosting cult activities. hmmm. weird
All the Evo gang went to Evo Elementary. shocker. And Lizzie.
And then they graduated, and they went to Hermit High Academy. Which I love. All the Hermits are there, except for Joel and Skizz (THEY WEREN'T HERMITS WHEN THIS STARTED AND ID ALREADY DONE THIS BACKSTORY), Cleo (she was at EEP), Gem, and Scar.
Also EEP stands for Empires Education Program. I love the EEP. All Empires people went there.
The two significant years-
hold on hold on hold on. okay. so.
Year order. we need this
also my sibling once told me that I text like someone with ADHD and I cannot help but feel like that's relevant here.
hello it is now a completely different day and place (I'm at the kitchen table and it is midnight)
(It has been thirty minutes I'm in my bed again and I am going to fall asleep. I need to take my meds. I have now taken my meds. now if I wanted to I could just fall asleep. I'm gonna keep talking here.)
In the Empires Education Program (which is referred to by people who want to mock it and also the attendees of it as the eep. Others say Empires or E E P (separated letters)) there are two years of people attending that we care about.
Everyone that was in Empires or SOS, minus False, Pearl, Jimmy, and Gem is part of the EEP.
The secondary year we care about (the grade below) has Oli, Owen, Mog, Eloise, and a few others unnamed (prolly from Witchcraft) because I refuse to make this class smaller than Magic School Bus's.
Everyone (minus Pearl, Jimmy, and Gem) in Empires S1 is in the first year of EEP. The second year has everyone else (minus False) that was in Empires S2 and SOS.
The primary year we care about (the most plot relevant people are here) has Scott, Cleo, Lizzie, Joel, Shelby, Katherine, fWhip, Pix, Sausage, and Joey. You might notice that Cleo is in here, and they are not part of this group. Cleo is in here because I said so. Also I needed a place for her to be besties with Scott. And Cleo would be a great addition to this crew, just saying.
... genuinely it is a completely different day and I am in a separate building and I have no idea what my ultimatum here was
Anyways. Martyn is a vigilante, Pearl's a villain, Scott's a doctor, and Cleo's a professor.
The funny thing that I'm absolutely in love with is how they semi get along. but mostly don't.
see. Scott and Pearl had that whole scene where Pearl literally ran out of magic and started ripping it out of Scott's soul. Magic is part of your soul, so it comes from a similar place as your soulbond.
And so Scott and Pearl have a well justified rivalry. And also after they broke the soulbond -- OH I JUST REMEMBERED THE REALLY FUNNY SHIT -- they both became Worthy, Scott significantly earlier than Pearl.
I still gotta explain the Worthy thing dammit
Anyways the really funny shit is that normally, when you reject your soulbond, you essentially function exactly the same as a person without a soulbond except you've got a weird tattoo, and you will die at the same moment that they do.
EXCEPT the divorce quartet are part of the Eighteen (which irl are just the life series members), and this means that the rejection doesn't work. It works at first, and Pearl and Scott have silent minds for the first time ever, and then they hear the slight whisper of the other one's voice and just. they're suffering.
It's funny as fuck, imo, because I'm the sadist author that makes the characters suffer. hehe
essentially, the telepathy hurts more after they rejected it than before. And also they also have the normal consequence of "if the one dies, then the other one dies too" which normal soulmates don't have.
But because of the rejection not working, the four of them realized that they're Winners. And they all figure out that they're Winners because Pearl believes that Mortality mythology (aka life series canon events) is real.
And Martyn was like "hah Pearl you're crazy"
and Pearl straight up goes "Jimmy's the Canary"
and the three of them stare at Pearl
because EVERYONE has heard the legend of the canary. It doesn't fucking matter who you are.
And Cleo's straight up like "holy shit"
And Scott knew the entire time bc he shares a brain with Pearl except he semi didn't believe it but he knew that Pearl believed it
But now they figure out that Scott is the Stars (2nd winner), Pearl is the Moon (3rd winner), Martyn is Mars/water/The Tower (4th winner), and Cleo is Pluto/fire/Death (6th winner).
And then perhaps Grian just walks out of the house and is like what're y'all talking about.
And then Pearl just stares at him. because she remembers what his soulmark is.
It's the sun and the earth. which is the missing duo of winners.
and Pearl is like. Grian. You're a winner.
and Grian's like "wtf are you on"
"like of mortality mythology"
"wat"
Scott: so is he the sun or the earth
Pearl: probably the sun. have you seen that face
Grian: wtf
Martyn: welcome to divorce club, Grian
Pearl: Martyn stfu
Martyn: yeah I'm scared of you so I will actually do that
Also Martyn and Pearl are besties
also I gotta write the scene where they divorce bc it's actually rly cute. not like Scott&Pearl and Martyn&Cleo but like. Scott and Martyn are cute. And Pearl and Cleo are cute. And Cleo and Scott<3 and Martyn and Pearl are like besties. so.
yeah
they. them. they're the perfect combination of like. a lot of shit. because all of them are morally gray.
hey that's almost my name
My name is actually a play on the phrase "morally gray", fun fact
Since Pearl is literally a villain. Martyn is a more hero aligned vigilante. Scott and Cleo, while being civilians, do actively help Pearl by giving her potions and shit since she and Martyn can go to the Nether to get the ingredients, and Scott and Cleo have a permit to brew potions.
Like. Scott and Cleo are like passive and will not get outed in the grand scheme, but technically they break the law daily. And I love them so much for that. Like. They know WAYYY too much to be civilians. Not even JOEL knows as much, and he's the motherfucking husband of Riptide, who is the sister of Scarlet AND Sparrow. AND the Canary.
Anyways. Um. If you want to ask any clarifying questions, I would be more than happy to answer those.
This was rly incoherent and I'm sorry abt that but y'know :D
THANK YOU PERI @periwinklepaint FOR THE ASK :D :D
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rose-lizzzy · 2 years ago
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How I think the remaining people will end it
(I'm theorizing to help me cope 😭😭😭
Season 2 didn't captivate me as much as season 1 but I'm gonna go crazy without any empires....please season 3)
Let's see
Shubble- PLEASE my theory especially with Joey's episode out,
I'm hoping, maybe Katherine?, But with some help possibly, the gnomes home is what caused her to be corrupted fully so it's possible that will tie into her un corruption, we get a resolution to Shrubs story (PLEASE T^T) and she gets the storm powers, white hair, and it ends with obviously her and Katherine saving Joey and going off, and she becomes a traveling storm witch in a caravan before being invited in a game to determine the Supreme Witch
Scott- maybe gets a resolution with the whole eye thing, maybe Owen comes back at some point, he ends as some kinda traveller
Gem- this one is hard. She could go more meta and notice the others are leaving so she resolves to one server, or go some lore route with the darkness or something
Pix- I'm hoping for something with the Copper King. He deserved an ending. If not, even if, maybe he...I don't know. Something with the ghost ness
Sausage - tying in with the evil king from his backstory, probably something with bubbles, we see Pearl (praying for return of pearl in s3 (unless she left because she didn't like the lore? I've heard that but I thought it was keeping up with two servers and a half with the life series))
Oli- we'll be lucky with an episode 4 but if he actually has a lore ending maybe he'll do something with music and bard ness I don't know
Jimmy- uh ..I don't know really. I could see Martyn killing him. Or he gets respect for once and then that's it
Lizzie- her secrets revealed or something and she lives as a housecat or something. Maybe she leaves her empire to the council and explores
I dunno
Am I missing anyone
Joel
Joel-... Was that his last? I don't think so. He might have a bit of lore, maybe something with Hermes, I think Hermes will get his own ending whether that's from Joel or Sausage
FALSE I forgot false come on
False- if I understand her storyline correctly she had her memories back but is more like. Lawful evil sort of thing. Maybe she'll make up with Hermit False somehow or try to contact her to apologize. I hope to see a resolution to that whole thing.
Is that it? Let's see, Fwhip ended, I think Katherine ended? I was in such denial that it was her last, Joey definitely ended.
One ..two.... thirteen. Yep all thirteen.
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a summary post for which pov i main or have mained for each series
lovely world: c!stampy, in the sense that yes, stampy pov is the only primary pov, but he is the closest character to being stuck in my head all series (sorry helpers and villains)
dsmp: c!quackity, but i am also fairly knowledgable about c!wilbur and formerly c!tommy (the finale sucked and you heard it from me)
empires s1: e1!seablings + e1!scott. i admit i am not up to date on my povs. i might watch another pov or more in the future when i get the time and motivation
empires s2: I WATCHED EVERY SINGLE POV at the start my dude. but i dropped out on joey after the crossover (due to time limitations) and i am not quite sure about the hermit side of things, so i think only know maybe half the story for e2!false and e2!gem
evo smp: i am only about halfway through grian pov rn but just you wait, i have so many povs to get through
3rd life: i did not watch 3rd life when it first came out but i have watched 3l!flower husbands and 3l!martyn, 3l!desert duo is still on the table
last life: i have only watched ll!lizzie and i am rusty… i swear i will keep watching when i have the time and motivation
double life: i watched dl!scott, dl!joel, dl!jimmy, and dl!scar when the series first came out
limited life: i have watched every pov other than team ties and big b (the latter only for an episode)
rats smp: i mainly got my info through r!scott episodes and the odd r!owen episode and r!jimmy vod. i am not fully up to date on all the lore just yet. i have also watched all of r!shelby and r!eloise's episodes
wcsmp: MOVE OVER I HAVE WATCHED EVERY SINGLE EPISODE FROM EVERY POV. I KNOW MY LORE.
qsmp: i am very NOT up to date on the lore because i rely on tumblr and discord for updates now, there is just too much going on. i have however watched everything about q!dan the missing man so that counts?
new life smp: i am watching every single episode. from every pov. this sadly means i am missing out on nl!meghan because she just streams it
pirates smp: i am watching all yt episodes that come out but for now i am still catching up on vods. if i had to pick my most watched pov at this moment it would be scott again
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