#MY BOY IS SCARED BUT DETERMINED XDD
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"I do.I liked you when we were in Japan - I thought you were kind, you were a hard-woker, ambitious, and… Cute. I still like you."
Chai blinked at Dan slowly. Oh. Oh. P'Dan liked him. That... it explained so much of the man's actions as of late. Trying to keep Chai away, trying not to touch him, being extra polite - was he worried that Chai would think he was taking advantage again, if he revealed his feelings? Because Dan had proven that he wasn't going to do that. He moved Chai to an entirely different department and hadn't even wanted him on this trip. Clearly, he was trying to set boundaries so that the assistant wouldn't take it in a wrong way, like he had in Japan.
It changed a lot for Chai. He thought Dan was like all the other men who wanted to use Chai and then dispose of him after they were done. He didn't know that he had actually liked him in that way.
Dan continued his - confession? - stating that he was worried about Chai's reaction, stating that as his boss he didn't want to put him in a position where he felt obligated. It echoed some of Chai's own thoughts, about him being an employee. People would say it was an abuse of power right? But Chai had liked Dan for a while now. It hadn't started as a romantic kind, but feelings could change and develop. And they sort of had, hadn't they?
When Chai expressed that to Dan, worried that he had misinterpreted their situation, his boss asked him to clarify...
"What do you mean by that, Chai?"
O-oh, did P'Dan want him to actually say it? Chai's already pink face felt warm as it deepened in colour, with the young assistant glancing away and biting his lip again. That was a scary thing to admit. Liking someone, in a way more than platonic. The last time he had done that, admitted his feelings, it had put him in a terribly vulnerable position, with a man who abused him until he was broken entirely.
P'Dan wouldn't do that to him though... right?
"U-um," Chai's fingers gripped the bottom of his shirt nervously, his hands forming into tiny fists as he turned back to face Dan and answer his question. "I-I like you more than just as a boss, Phi. More um... personal... l-like someone I'd want to go out with, you know? A-ah, I'm sorry, it's really not right of me to say it but..." Chai cut himself off, growing quiet. He was unsure, nervous - but lighter, now that he had admitted such a heavy secret. He just hoped it wouldn't cause any more problems between himself and P'Dan...
Dan's expression hardly changed as Chai spoke to him, with the younger man growing slightly more anxious the more he talked. He was used to rambling when he was nervous, a habit of his where he felt like he needed to blurt out everything in his mind otherwise it would drive him nuts, and Dan allowed him to do so without interruption. Still, he worried about saying the wrong thing or making his boss angry - Chai didn't want that one bit, especially now since they were making progress.
"You - want to be close to me? What do you mean by that?"
Chai's face grew warm. He liked P'Dan a lot and meant it when he said he wanted to be close - but what way? Phi-Nong? Boss-Assistant? Friends? ...More than friends? It had been a long time since Chai had felt like he had wanted to be more than friends with another person but... if there was anyone he would be willing to try that with, it would be P'Dan...
Oh, what was he saying!! P'Dan was his boss!! Wasn't that inappropriate?
"U-um..." Chai stuttered, finding it hard to admit his thoughts now. "I-I mean... I-I like you a lot P'Dan..."
"I don't want to misunderstand anything. I hope you don't mind that I'm asking… And when you said that Japan was a misunderstanding - What did you mean? You were gonna say something else…"
Chai realised that Dan had caught onto what he had been saying earlier, before he revealed what the other had said during his fever. He supposed that he shouldn't hide it - not since he was trying to be honest with the man too. "When you were sick you said that... y-you said that you liked me?" Chai said, now a little uncertain. Looking back, maybe Dan had just been talking nonsense - he had been so sick, sometimes thoughts got muddled. What if... those weren't his actual feelings? Or what if they changed, since Japan. "You said that you thought I liked you too... I-I mean, back then, I liked you as a boss so it was a shock... But I could see how m-maybe you thought it was something more. It's kinda... turned out that way." Chai let out a nervous chuckle. What was he doing? What was he saying? God, admitting these sorts of things to his boss... if Dan didn't straight up fire him, then Chai would consider himself lucky.
#dan006#PDAN KEEPS EDGING HIMSELF FOR AN ANSWER#AND CHAI FINALLY GAVE HIM ONE#MY BOY IS SCARED BUT DETERMINED XDD#PLS DONT BREAK HIM PDAN HE'S VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT LIKING SOMEONE AGAIN D:#(oh he's totally going to hurt him but chai doesn't need to know that!) 🤭
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SO LET’S TALK ABOUT THE NEW SANDERS SIDES VIDEO
This is gonna be a long post. I have a lot of thoughts about this episode. There is going to be some serious talk about my own personal experiences with violent intrusive thoughts and also me just appreciating this amazing episode.
I was one of the people that was convinced it was going to be about depression. I am so glad it wasn’t. A lot of people have talked about depression, but no one, at least as far as I know, have really touched upon intrusive thoughts. I had the exact same dilemma as Thomas last year where I thought I was going insane because I couldn’t control my own brain and I had a horrible mental breakdown and I was convinced I was a horrible person because of my intrusive thoughts. I cried and talked to people about it and through doing so it was made clear to me that these intrusive thoughts were just that, thoughts. Nothing more. They hold nothing over me. I still suffer from them, but now I know what they are.
I was also certain there wasn’t going to be another side introduced. It’s been a year since Deceit was introduced, we’ve only just gotten to know Deceit a little better, there won’t be another side. BOY WAS I WRONG
The episode starts with Thomas, Virgil and Patton trying not to think about the intrusive thoughts he was having that kept him awake. I have intrusive thoughts like that all the time. I vividly imagine my family members dying, or even myself dying. I vividly imagine someone breaking into the house and killing me. My brain does what Virgil and Patton do, freak out and try to think about something else. This video has made me realise how much I repress thoughts like that.
My anxiety also makes me have intrusive thoughts. Whenever I have an anxiety attack I vividly imagine myself killing myself in gory detail because I’ve gotten into this cycle of hating myself whenever I have an attack. I get scared, what if I lose control one day and these thoughts become reality?
I love how the audio became muffled and the intrusive thought creeped in. I like to think of the mind like a radio, tuning in and out of different frequencies, and sometimes, or most of the time like for me, you can’t control the frequencies it jumps to. And suddenly you’re imagining your loved one being killed or dying.
I SCREAMED BLOODY MURDER WHEN THOSE HANDS CREEPED OUT
I WAS NOT EXPECTING A NEW SIDE AT ALL
I WAS SO TERRIFIED
HOLY SHIT THAT CHARACTER DESIGN I AM IN LOVE STRAIGHT AWAY
BUT AAAAAAAA WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHAT THE HELL
When he smacked Roman in the head and knocked him out I was so shook, this Sanders Sides has stepped into totally new territory
LOOK AT HIM OMG HE HAS A MOUSTACHE I WASN’T EXPECTING A NEW SIDE TO HAVE FACIAL HAIR HOLY SHIT
THE DUKE
HIS VOICE
HE HAS A DIFFERENT VOICE
THERE IS NO ENDING TO THOMAS’ TALENT
The way the song starts is eVeRyThInG
THESE EFFECTS I CAN’T DEAL AAAAAAAAA
I FUCKING SCREAMED
HIS SIX ARMS I LOVE IT REMUS’ SASSY STANCE I AM LIVING FOR IT
If you shared those musings with your friends, I doubt they would forgive you.
Gosh. I relate to this too much. I was so scared that I would somehow reveal these bad thoughts to people and they would hate me and everyone would hate me and think I was an awful person.
Even though everybody sins, everybody dies.
FAVOURITE PART OF THE SONG HANDS DOWN THOMAS’ VOICE IS AMAZING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Why deny yourself knowledge, say, knowledge of yourself!
These lyrics are amazing. They encapsulating what I was thinking when I had really bad intrusive thoughts. I still have them, but when I first started noticing I had them I spiralled so far down. “What if this is who I am...what if I’m not the nice person I think I am?”
hELP I LOVE HIM BUT I HATE HIM BUT I LOVE HIM
I always love the villain. I hate everything they’ve done and don’t condone any of it, but I absolutely love them, especially if they are as fabulous as the Duke Remus.
These sorts of things are only thought in the mind of a man whose soul is truly rotten.
Oof. I relate to that thought process.
So let all your hopes of heaven be forgotten, ‘cause your head’s not in the gutter, pal, it’s in hell!
I wasn’t expecting religious imagery. I really love that. I don’t relate to the religious ideas brought up in this episode as I am not religious, but I do love the fact that he talked about them. Also, when Deceit said, “Wow, Thomas, it seems that your moral compass is pointed south, towards hell!” that was definitely foreshadowing for Thomas to spiral into this. That’s why Patton reacted so viscerally to that comment.
Remus: Juicy butthole!
Me:
Me:
Me: what...what is happening in this Sanders Sides
THIS FACE I LOVE IT
THE JAZZ HANDS AND THE HIGH VOICE AAAAAA WHY DO I LOVE HIM AND HATE HIM
Patton did a real good job!
Oh my goodness, this precious boi.
How about...DEMENTED?
I C H O K E D
What is my deal? Um, bitch? What is YOUR deal?
My exact thought process. “Am I actually a horrible person because I’m having such awful thoughts like this, there’s definitely something wrong with me...but I can’t stop it...”
Oh no....oh no!
My heart broke at the horror and sadness that washes over Thomas’ and Patton’s face.
another good remus screenshot
Oh my goodness, the way he tortures Logan throughout the episode was awful for me to watch cause MY BABY LOGAN, but I love how Logan doesn’t react. I love Logan’s determination.
You bastard.
IT WAS A LONG TIME COMING HELL YES VIRGIL
I’d love to see the bloopers for this bit, oh my gosh.
Ooh! How fun! You know who could help us with that?
AWW MAN YOU GOT MY HOPES UP XDD
That’s what repression is!?
I love Patton’s reaction, cause I had the same reaction. Repression is so easy to do cause you often don’t know you are doing it.
This is not about me wanting to be listened to. You all are not listening to Thomas.
THIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT OH MY GOSH
Virgil: But what if he’s lying?
Logan: I can assure you, he’s not. You’re just para- expressing an unhealthy amount of concern. Thank you for being on guard. But for now, you must listen.
I love this part so much. It calls back to when Roman almost called Virgil paranoid, but then switched it to vigilant. Logan realised he was getting too worked up and angry and so stopped himself. This is great development from when he lashed out at Roman in Learning New Things About Ourselves. Calling Virgil “paranoid” is destructive and will make Virgil not feel listened to. He is aware of that. He is making sure Virgil still feels like he’s a valued part of Thomas’ mind.
another good remus screenshot
THAT IS WHY I SAY IT!
GOSH I LOVE LOGAN SO MUCH YES LOGAN GO OFF
I love being given two d’s at once!
Me:
Me:
Me: ...again what is happening
When Logan revealed that the problem was within Patton and Virgil, my heart dropped. I wasn’t expecting that.
Record scratch!?
I LOVE HIM AAAAA
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AM I COOL DOES THIS MAKE ME COOL
OMG PRECIOUS BOI AAAA
I WAS SO SHOOK WHEN HE SAID HIS NAME JUST LIKE THAT
ALSO THAT SLY DIG AT VIRGIL AAAAA
oof. this sad boi. :”(
Oh shut up, Nerdy Wolverine!
OMG I JUST REALISED THIS IS WHAT ROMAN SAYS AT THE END AAAAA
I S C R E A M E D
we just witnessed a side die guys
the angst fanfiction is coming to life
The Duke only has power over you because Virgil and Patton believe that he does.
Hit me hard. I’ve never related more to a Sanders Sides episode.
This. THIS. So poignant and brilliant! This is how it feels!
good logan screenshot
Virgil was right. Not all thoughts are meaningful.
This idea is what helped me better deal with intrusive thoughts. Your brain just fires random thoughts at you, they don’t necessarily mean anything.
I mean, look at him now! He barely got any rest due in large part to you two chastising him all night!
I love how Logan tells them off. UGH I LOVE HIM
And that is why the Duke feels like such a threat, in part, at least. The feeling that you may be a bad person who doesn’t have control over yourself or your destiny, causes you to fear that you may actually act on these thoughts.
Gosh this episode is hitting me hard.
It’s okay.
Everything is okay.
Logan’s soft voice as he said that made me emotional. His whole speech here is so lovely and helpful. It is okay to have these thoughts cross your mind. You are not a horrible person.
His talk about going to therapy is amazing too. It’s so inspiring. It has encouraged me to want to go back to the therapy because of my recent increase in violent intrusive thoughts.
Oh my goodness, Patton’s realisation and development. This is lovely.
You tickle me, emo!
...was that a tickle me elmo reference
Good seeing you again, Virgil! It was just like old times!
Me:
Me:
Me: wAIT A MINUTE--
Oh shut up, Nerdy Wolverine! NO! Ugh...I mean...I’m sorry, Logan. I didn’t mean that.
THERE’S SO MUCH CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IN THIS EPISODE I CAN’T DEAL
Thomas: You’re really...cool.
Logan: ...heh.
Me: ACTUALLY SOBBING
THESE TWIN BROTHERS OH MY GOODNESS YES
It shows you...everything you don’t want to be.
There are some really hard hitting lines in this episode.
I’m a little disappointed in myself.
The others. I thought I knew how to handle them.
Yeah, but, I should know better.
Because I was one of them.
Virgil being insecure about his power and how much he can protect Thomas almost makes me cry. That last line...oh my goodness. Thomas and his team really know how to write a narrative. It seems that we’re gonna get some lore and backstory at some point after all.
Thomas and his team have done such a good job with this episode. It is my favourite Sanders Sides by far because of the fact that this topic has not really been talked about much, and they talked about it and showed what it’s like so brilliantly. I respect Thomas so much for pushing the boundaries of his channel to talk about this. Thank you, Thomas. I and and so many people needed this.
I realise that I need to go back to therapy. Thank you, Logan for encouraging me.
#ts spoilers#sanders sides#logan sanders#roman sanders#virgil sanders#patton sanders#deceit sanders#remus sanders#dealing with intrusive thoughts#thomas sanders
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