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TWD 10x11: Morning Star - First Thoughts

What did everyone think of the episode? I thought it was fantabulous, of course. No major surprises, but I really loved it. Really a beautiful episode.

I know they said it would end on a cliffhanger, so we were expecting that, but we honestly didn’t get into ANY of the action until about the last five minutes of the episode. It sort of reminded me of Coda that way. Not in the story, of course. Just in the format.

As always, here are my first thoughts. The things that jumped out at me on first-watch. Tomorrow, I’ll do details.

***As always, spoilers abound for 10x11 below. Don’t read until you’ve watched! You’ve been warned!***

1) Eugene and Stephanie (girl on the radio) talk about the satellites and shooting stars (I’ll talk more about those and the clock behind Eugene tomorrow), but they kind of had a very mini Beth template here. When she hears Rosita’s voice on the radio and won’t talk to him, she disappears and he gets depressed. Then, after he sings, Stephanie comes back. She says, “I’m sorry I disappeared on you for a while.” Sounds like something Beth might say, no? So, while there was no death fake out, she did disappear for a short time before coming back.

And that made me kind of re-evaluate other things. For example, when Eugene realizes she saw the satellite, he gets really happy because he realizes they must not be that great a distance apart. And he tells her that falling satellite is what spurred him to call out on the radio to begin with. In other words, the satellite is the only reason they met/he found her. So if he leads to Beth in any way, the same will be true of Beth and Daryl. Just a thought.

2) Stephanie tells Eugene where and when to meet her. This REALLY jumped out at me, guys, and I’ll probably have to explain why, because it’s not something I’ve focused on too much in my posts. Stephanie says Charleston, West Virginia at some rail yards. The rail yards first caught my ear because train tracks were such a big part of Beth’s story line in S4/S5. (I’m wondering if the train tracks in 5x09 were a hint at WHERE Beth would appear?) But Charleston WV is also at the confluence of 2 rivers. The Kanawha (probably a native American word) and the Elk. (ELK! DEER!)

It also made me think of a specific line that me and my fellow theorists still discuss a lot. Back in 7x06, when Tara snuck into Oceanside, she hears two women talking about someone who was searching for something and went all the way to “the mouth” (we assume of a river). There was also a serious/Sirius reference thrown in.

We’ve always felt like that was significant, but its significance has never been explained in the show. Maybe what they were saying right then in the moment wasn’t super important, but I’m betting it foreshadowed Stephanie’s group, and where Eugene is going to go. They are literally sitting at the mouths (sort of ) of two rivers, and guess what those two rivers make when they cross? You guessed it: an X. (X Theory)

Now, granted, this may be where Stephanie is meeting Eugene, rather than where her people actually live, but still. I’m super excited about this. I’ll talk about it more later. For the record, this doesn’t feel like this is the Commonwealth to me. And I’m not saying the Commonwealth won’t be coming into the story very soon. I just think this particular thing is something different.

3) Several scenes reminded me of Still. First there was Lydia and Carol talking on the porch. Just the way they were sitting was reminiscent of Still. But they were also having an honest heart to heart.  Then there was Rosita and Eugene. They had a heart to heart as well, which even involved romance, and they were drinking alcohol. So lots of callbacks to Still here.

I will say that the thing Lydia talked about with Carol—about how everyone has forgotten how to tell the truth—is a theme for the episode. This is a situation where they’re all pretty convinced they’re gonna die, so everyone is brutally honest with one another. Sometimes it’s harsh, but others it’s really touching (i.e. Daryl/Judith, Daryl/Zeke, Zeke/Carol, etc.)

4) The scene where Judith gives Daryl the vest is the best thing EVER!!! Even before she shows him the vest, it’s super sweet and honest and just beautiful. I just want to watch it over and over again.

And there’s an echo of Beth at the moonshine shack in it. They talk about being afraid and he tells her there’s no shame in being afraid. So it’s different than S4 because of what Beth taught him. *heart melting*

Even the scene where Daryl and Carol talk by the graves…is honestly very sweet. I laughed and commented about how dejected the shippers seemed by it. The spoilers said, “that’s it,” when it came to Daryl and Carol’s interaction, and made it sound like Daryl was still mad at her in this scene.

But it was a really touching scene between them. Different than the way they brought it across. It’s a really lovely scene about friendship and forgiveness, even  though it’s only about 30 seconds long. Leave it to shippers to bash it because Carol and Daryl don’t have sex in it. 🙄

Back to the Judith/Daryl/Vest scene. There is tons of green hanging out in that scene, which made me happy. I’ll talk more about colors and such tomorrow. And how cute was it that RJ wore the vest earlier in the episode. It was so long on him, it practically dragged on the ground. *heart melting *

But the thing I really saw significant symbolism in is how Daryl puts the vest on. When Judith presents it to him, he kind of swings it up over his head and puts it on. It just felt really significant. Like it’s been mostly gone for a long time and he hasn’t been wearing it. Now he is again. And they would only do that when Beth is about to arrive or something.

5) The portraits. While we do see Beth’s and Hershel’s clearly, I felt like there was a big emphasis on Glenn. After Carol walks out, the camera zooms in on Glenn’s portrait until it’s the only one we can see for a second. 

And right after that Carol goes out to talk to Daryl at the graves. Honestly, he’s probably looking at Glenn’s grave. I’m not sure why that is, but it probably has to do with Maggie’s imminent return. I have more to say about this, but it doesn’t have anything to do with this episode, so I’ll address it later. Suffice it to say, I think Glenn will somehow have a huge bearing on the show in the next little bit. I’m not sure how. And no, I don’t think he’s secretly alive or anything. I’m just reading symbolism. More on that later.

6) So I’ve been telling my fellow theorists that this is feeling more and more like a replay of 4b. I think the fall of Hilltop will mirror the fall of the prison, and chances are a lot of the characters are going to scatter into the woods and be divided into little groups. That’s only important because of what it’s setting up moving forward. And how it might point to Beth, of course. ;D Maybe I’ll do more predictions later in the week if I get time. Think of it this way: in 4b, the season ended at Terminus (train yard). And now Eugene is set to go meet Stephanie at a train yard. Just saying.

7) In the scene where Zeke and Daryl talk, there’s a part that made me laugh out loud because it was so obviously put in purposely. Daryl scratches his forehead and in doing so moves his hair off his forehead and we get a crystal clear shot of his forehead scar. The one from where Alpha cut him. Like, when does he EVER move his hair out of his eyes? And while yes, it is a knife wound rather than a bullet wound, and it’s on the opposite side, as we said before, it’s at the EXACT height on his forehead that Beth was shot at.

8) And how much does this final shot just LOOK like Still?

So those were the big things that jumped out at me. In short, we’re seeing more Bethyl templates around Eugene, and I have a really good feeling about him going to meet Stephanie. If you need a reminder, it will be the place they filmed at Grady hospital for. So there’s already going to be a lot of parallels. But I feel like a lot of things are pointing to this being where Beth shows up. *fingers crossed* And I also feel like they’re setting this war story line up a lot like 4b, and that’s a good thing.

Many more details to come. Stay tuned!