#Ky Luc

[nono-uwu]

Ch 143 spoilers

I don't have anything to add to my original thoughts on the chapter now that it's officially out but I do want to highlight this:

I think we forgot that almost all vampires kill mercilessly. This was a pretty big thing early on but with time (and more vampire lore) both the plot and we as an audience forgot that the vampires are bad people. This includes the fandom darlings like Krul, Crowley, Lest and Ky

I'm not saying you need to be satisfied with Ky's or any other vampires end (I sure as hell am not) but just remember that the human characters have every reason to hate vampires (Narumi laid it out during the osaka arc but let's be fr does anyone even remember he exists)

(Also Shinoa literally cried when absorbing Ky's human memories and she said she was sorry so queen did nothing wrong)

[nightshadelinnette]

I'm feeling particularly weird today so here's another scenario quiz:

You're standing in the hallway of a train, choose a room to spend a whole train journey in

ROOM 1

What on earth do you want to discuss with these people?!😭 Stay atleast 13527 kms away from humanity thank you

ROOM 2

Lacus would try to talk to you to reduce the awkwardness in the room, Mika ofc silently looks out of the window. René would either add his comments to Lacus's yapping or sleep

ROOM 3

Welcome to Shinya's private tea party, I don't have to elaborate any further. Yuu and Guren are most likely to have an insult battle with each other, it's up to you to take one side or just peacefully sip tea with Shinya💀👍

ROOM 4

Krul and Ferid constantly bickering, Crowley would talk to you or suggest playing cards (Bad move💀) both of em would accuse each other of cheating in the game and start another round of bickering🗿

ROOM 5

Good choice if you like socialising, it's the most fun room in my opinion, you can play many games with them and tell each other stories

ROOM 6

Urd will leave you on your own, Ky's not interested in humans so he wouldn't care and continue talking to Lest, Little tyrant would be talking to Ky about how he's planning to overthrow Krul and conquer Japan. Don't even jokingly try ask him silly questions, he'd be so pissed off and Urd would have to stop him from rebuking you💀

[highway-road23]

Can he win and open the next door too? I personally think and wish yes🥰

[kamisamabest]

nobody can change my opinion on this im the #1 ferid hater

he literally said he has a lolita complex,would make his child servants wear see through clothing,threatened to rape mikaela and sa'd him by spanking him,keep in mind mika is 16

he likes the blood of children,and blood sucking is a confirmed sexual thing in owari no seraph

he also drank mika's blood when he was 12 let's not forget that,and even asked mika to bring yuu next time

"b-but he's just jo-" mf do you think that all of these are a joke? if they were why would someone like him "joke" about being attracted to kids? and was threatening mika and sa-ing him also a joke? or liking children's blood?

and he also showed off his (small) dick to shinoa and mitsuba,who are 15 and 16 and which counts as sa/sexual harassment towards them

he makes comments about how he loves krul who has the appearance of a child (a 12 or a 14 year old i don't remember when she was turned)

you literally cannot justify his actions.

sureeee he had a fucked up past so what? and so did Urd and Ky and Lest and others? did they try to get freaky with kids? no

tbh people who honestly like ferid are a joke and you can't convince me otherwise. like imagine simping for/loving someone who literally openly says that he's a pedophile.

idc abt how much people try to justify his actions, he's a pedophile and that's a fact. get over it if you can,or cry about it.

[wintersoldier-barnes]

Ky Luc

[yandere-romanticaa]

Some of my favorite Seraph of the End covers because I miss talking about this series

[lostsoulaltair]

Owari no Seraph Chapter 143 - Analysis and Review. SPOILERS Ahead

今日は皆さん。久しぶりですね。

Hey everyone, it's been a while hehe...Soo, given that the chapter was released in Japan, we'll have to wait until it gets released on this side till Jan 10th. Nevertheless, I want to give an insight.

P.S: As usual, ships are excluded and everything's held within a neutral view.

The chapter starts retaking from chapter 142, an encounter between the Shinoa Squad and the 5th Progenitor Ky Luc. There is an eventual fight of willpower given that Shinoa is aiming to turn Ky Luc into a cursed gear from the black series so Mitsuba can wield. Along this, we have a flashback on which it is revealed as to why Ky Luc followed Urd Geales with utmost loyalty.

The reason behind is because Urd wants to die. But not die like a demon but as a human. To reach mortality in order to die like the human he was born.

Upon hearing such dream, Ky Luc was amazed by such dream, promising himself to carry on and live until Urd fulfilled his dream.

Given this, Ky Luc's will was all that kept him from turning into a demon, nevertheless, given that Shinoa was devouring him as well, Shinoa was able to feel his feelings and memories, making her overwhelmed, nevertheless, the squad was there for her so she could manage to turn Ky into a demon.

She apologizes to him for that and at the end we have an Owari Kaisen. [Shinoa made the new demon as two fingers. Don't ask what the author was thinking cause Idk either haha].

As for the end of the chapter, Shinoa now knows what Urd and Rigr are thinking along Yuu's location.

Analysis

First of all, many might consider or may think that the portrayal of strength between Shinoa and Ky Luc was unfair along that her power up was random...

I will say that the way things are paced is not exactly the best. The story is reaching its eventual end and yes, there are things that could have been detailed much better or polished nevertheless, let's not forget details that have been from the very beginning.

What do I mean?

Ever since the LN were published, it has been stated that Shinoa is far stronger than other characters. That includes Mahiru, Guren, the adults even by Shikama. But why's that?

Simple, Shinoa has had the ability to accept demons without losing her heart, without needing to do trials like other wielders as seen in old chapters and the last one which was chapter 102 till chapter 106. [That's when Yuu fought went to save Mika, then fought against him to make him his cursed gear].

Now, following suit, why did Shinoa never do such task when she had the power but chose until now?

Well, it all goes with the narrative but also with her emotional development. What do I mean?

Perhaps people what makes them feel like something's wrong is not only the narrative but also the building of "expectation". Long ago, I was actually pissed, angry or rather upset with how things turned in OnS in terms of story, I felt no motivation to write or the sort but then, along a friend, we started to consider other aspects from what we actually expected but rather, what the characters were displaying emotional wise and rationality wise.

Which means, the characters are driven regarding how they feel, what they aspire, what they want, along what they know about their own selves.

With Shinoa, she thought she had found out what she wanted, she thought that because she had fallen in love and was together in a squad, she had truthfully lived when in reality, she was taking the baby steps required to live.

As Kouhei Kadono's LNs suggest. In order to have the right to die, you must live first.

But returning to the topic. Shinoa had a massive advantage against Shikama not because of raw power alone. It was first seen she could take any demon into her and use them (LN which came to portrayal on chapter 133). But let's remember that Rigr made certain Shikama's powers were constantly restrained due to the place they managed to create, giving Shinoa an advantage.

In the case of Ky Luc, Shinoa was able to bust her own teammates so they could actually pull a fight against a beast like Ky Luc.

Her being able to know how to create a demon, this was shown in early chapters when Mikaela turned into a demon. Knowledge is power and in a war where life is at stake, such knowledge comes in handy.

The next question, why did Ky Luc lose if he was powerful?

One of the topics that it's heavily touched in Ky Luc's backstory is that Ky had no sense of why he wanted to live. He had a bind that all he knew was that he had to survive. Ky fought through life to survive but not until he met Urd Geales, did he find a first thing to live for. Nevertheless, he is living for someone but not living for himself. What do I mean?

Usually, the story tends to portray how characters want to be recognized, how they want to be seen to someone else's eyes along how people start gathering around them. But the other side of the coin is, what is exactly to live? What does living exactly mean?

It's not just about living for someone but actually finding a reason for your own. It is a delicate thread between selfishness along personal love, it's hell after all. It's finding in a desolate land a reason as to why one's self is existing and living. Even during hell, or during the trial called life, people find meaning, they find things to do, to enjoy, to aspire for, to spend time with, to cry for, to lament for, but to grow for as well.

Ky Luc's human clock stopped, the reason he lost was because he always believed that vampires would be the strongest of their kind, never considering what divided humans and vampires. What exactly made humans be special yet frightening, but rather, he thought as long as he fought, as long as he made himself stronger, he wouldn't lose. But it was a different day there...Ky Luc had a past stained with blood and I'm not going to say he's a justificable character, but rather fascinating, how despite the mind along the ideals can set someone to see light, for others such light only reflects darkness.

As for the final point. The squad's role

For sure, the way they got their power up was not exactly the best developed point but given that the story had to move on, that's what we got. Shinoa being able to access to the First Progenitor's powers is what allowed her to give her team a chance to fight given that the protagonist is broken in terms of power as well, so there must exist a balance in power scale.

But, what is there to need to be discussed with the squad?

Their union.

One of the things that's been visible is that once Yuu left, the squad had a turnoil of emotions, distress, sadness, along feelings akin to feeling lost.

Like lambs who were waiting for the lead to guide them, but given that someone stood there, a new beacon began to shine. But instead of following Yuu and Guren; they began to follow a beacon to a new path. One on which they could dictaminate what they wanted to do with their lives.

Kimizuki, Yoichi and specially Mitsuba, have displayed growth despite few chapters passing by; they do treasure the family they have, they love Yuu but they are living in the present. They are not tied to what happened millenia ago, they want a better world, a world that lets humanity prosper and end the eternal hell they've been subjected to endure but among this, the real creation of bonds has been visible. The squad supporting each other, working together along ensuring each other is alright is one of the most precious things that can be witnessed.

As a side note

I usually complained about Mitsuba's poor development...but right now, her worrying about Shinoa, showing what it is to be a caring friend, what it means to give support for someone you hold dear. It means there is progress instead of blindy following. I hope we get to see interactions between Mitsuba and Ky Luc with time along constant development with the members of the squad.

What do you think about this? Let me know.

It's alright if you don't like it, just remember, respecting each other is what leads to good conversations.

[black-sapphire57]

This literally went:

🫥🫥😅🫥🫥

[koharuzz]

Shinoa was soooo pretty in this. I can’t wait to see what she will do to Ky. I love seeing her getting stronger and more powerful, she’s such a badass now 😭💜💜💜💜. And also can’t wait to see when Guren Mahiru and Ferid will find out how powerful and definitely stronger than them she got.

Also loved this panel of those two (I DONT SHIP THEM OR ANYTHING EWWWW) but they were so cute like this lol.

[28moonshine]

They done wiped out my favorite boy, I'm done 😭

[deffista]

okay but i LOVED the fact that we got to see more of ky luc and urd's relationship.

also fellas, is it gay to follow your bro everywhere for hundreds of years just to understand his purpose of living?

[nono-uwu]

Finally new ons chapter woohey

Ch142 Spoilers !!

- ... was starting the chapter on a random woman getting assaulted really necessary? On a closer look it seems like a random guy/vampire killed her but like. por qué

- VAMPIRE WORLDBUILDING MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED

- ok so Ky really just got stronger through the power of sheer fucking will, respect

- Urd :((( so he probably let Ky do his thing bc Ky reminded him of Rigr :((

- Aww Ky just decided to follow him around, that's kinda cute

- the random little vampire is kinda cute... basic but cute

- fellas if your man doesn't follow you around for 500+ years to figure out wth you're doing, don't even bother

- damn okay Ky, just throw out a confession if the middle of a random street /j

- Urd has a dreaaaammmmm and omfg can Ky get any more romantic with his boss? "It felt like I'd finally been freed from my mother's curse" damn okay bro 🤨🏳️‍🌈

- Ky Luc the GOAT, he will not die to Fraud Bathory, Fraudhiru and Gufraud !! (Sorry for the brainrot terms, Kagurabachi subreddit has done irreparable damage to my brain)

- Ky Luc has beaten the meal allegations we are so back

- also, murderous cutie patooties :3

- SHINOA MY QUEEN

- yk what I'll let Shinoa take this W, hoping for Shinoa squad plus Ky collab

- Ky Luc is stunned, shocked, flabbergasted even

- KIMIZUKI LOOKS LIKE HE AGED 20 YEARS STOP LMAOOO Shinoa, Mitsu and Yoichi look as cute as ever tho <3

[nightshadelinnette]

POV: SHIP VOYAGE

[highway-road23]

This is Admin talking

You can't be serious.

Guys, what we are reading now is A manga after years, what we had before it was NOT a manga, it was a fanfiction.

Sorry to inform you that this is how a manga is.

A manga is about ALL characters, shows their back stories, gives details and information and doesn't focus on only 2 characters for years😑

I think you read that fanfiction for so long that you forgot what an actual manga is and you simply just get used to that shit that now it backed to what it must be, you suddenly feel strange about it.

If takaya wants to put alllllll flashbacks in the light novels, then what would have been left for the manga? So many people don't even read Cat16 manga and novels which are the most important novels and then you want ALL vampires flashbacks on another light novels? You know if it would be like that we must seriously say bye bye to ONS anime new season forever???

Who would watch an anime that explains nothing about its characters and you must read them through a light novel? So many people in our fandom already don't even want to have a Cat16 anime which I insist to say it again that it is the MOST important light novels then did you think outsiders whom may only watch anime will accept to go read everything about vampires back story throughout light novels?

If we want to remove even this one from the manga then what would be left of it honestly?

Only M*kay* are you seriously after it? Then please check on AO3 and read fanfictions and let the manga BE a manga after all the bullshits it went through, you had M*kay* for years wasn't it enough???omfg🤦‍♀️

[feridsluver]

I miss old Seraph of the End I won't lie :/ I do like we are getting lore drop about the characters, the shift to reincarnation is nonetheless still cool but I miss the vibes of old OnS sm.

What I liked about the old OnS was it was down to earth and kept its pace. It held a certain mystery and an atmosphere that I don't know how to describe. The rate at what the characters die feels so weird/rushed. Ig it makes up for the filler chapters (no it doesn't I get stories have highs and lows and some boring parts). Idk it makes sense why he is killing off the vampires who aren't relevant as much. But still too fast 😫 gives us time to grieve Kagami 😞

[wintersoldier-barnes]

Ky Luc for @black-sapphire57