#KKJ bracket group stage

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to the full bracket

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KKJ Group stage overview:

Reminder: Polls in this stage will last a week and only contain non-singles. The winners will continue to the main bracket, but the numbers 2 and 3 of each poll will get placed in another group stage of 2 polls of which the first 2 of both polls continue.

Group B1

Winner: De revolutie; 2nd place: Wanneer zie ik jou terug

Group B2

Winner: Filmster; 2nd place: Geloof in jezelf

Group 1

Winner: Lollypopland; 2nd place: Jurkje; 3rd place after tie-break: Viva viool

Group 2

Winner: Smoorverliefd; 2nd place: De revolutie; 3rd place: Kitty

Group 3

Winner: Telepathie; 2nd place after tie-break: Mijn liefje achterna; 3rd place: Blankenberge

Group 4

Winner: Niet normaal; 2nd place after tie-break: Filmster; 3rd place: Wat jij doet met mij

Group 5

Winner: Niet-verjaardagsfeest; 2nd place: Geloof in jezelf; 3rd place: Wanneer zie ik jou terug

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket

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Best K3 song bracket: KKJ edition!

Overview group stage

Overview round 1

Overview round 2

Overview quarter finals

Overview semi finals

Overview finals

Results

I hope we all had fun in the full K3 song bracket, but because the og songs were dominating I suggested to hold separate polls for the other 3 generations and over 20 people thought that was a fun idea, so here is the first of the three competitions: The KKJ bracket.

KKJ have 61 songs on my last count, so I chose to do a 32 song bracket, where similar to the big K3 bracket, all singles automatically qualified, that is harder to determine but I got to 23 songs, leaving 9 spots for other songs which we'll again determine through a group stage:

The winner of each of these groups will place for the tournament the other 4 songs will be chosen from the songs that placed 2nd and third in those groups, they will be divided over 2 groups, the winner and runner-up of these two groups also place*

Similar to the earlier bracket, all polls will again last a week.

FAQ:

What will you tag the polls?

All polls will be tagged #Best KKJ song bracket

When does the tournament start?

I'm planning to start on July 31st

How did you seed the bracket/make the groups?

I seeded the bracket based on the songs' performance in the big bracket. (See this post for a full ranking of all 128 songs.) I did a similar thing for the group stage, but that was more coarse, as many songs only got 1 vote in the original group stage, so I got to also shuffle them around a bit to get a proper division of the different albums.

Why is De revolutie in the group stage? It was directly placed for the original bracket

De revolutie was a tough song, as it was originally an og single, but was only released on the MaMaSé album. Since a poll under the followers of this blog showed that most considered it also a KKJ song, I included it in the bracket, but that because it was only released as a single by the og, it would have to go through the group stage.

How did you determine what songs are singles?

A combination of the Discografie van K3 Wikipedia page and looking at what songs have video clips. With clips from specials it was a bit confusing, because not all felt like they should be counted as singles? However the group stage should make sure all actual popular songs get through to the main bracket.

Why is this in English?

Because I want to leave the option open for non-Dutch speaking people to be(come) K3 fans.

What happens if a poll ends in a tie?

I will let them face off in a 1-day poll, if that doesn’t give a winner, both will continue.

*OP reserves the right to switch the order of the group winners in the final bracket based on results in the groups/earlier rankings (Because Winner Group 1 has a better rank than Winner Group 5 right now, while maybe Winner Group 5 proves to be much more popular. Though this was probably a bigger problem in the original bracket, where Winner Poule 20 was up against Tele-Romeo, the later number 2, and Winner Poule 1 was up against Bubbel which ended in 75th place.)

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Best KKJ song bracket!

Link to full bracket!

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Results of the best KKJ song bracket!!!

Congrats to Mamasé for being the best KKJ song! Also not pictured here, but Meiden van de brandweer gets a honorary mention for coming 4th.

Some fun stats:

Lollypopland, Beroemd and Niet-verjaardagsfeest had the biggest increase when compared to the full K3 bracket, Lollypopland was originally ranked 24th but managed to become 9th! Beroemd was ranked 21st and came 8th and Niet-verjaardagsfeest was ranked 28th but came 18th!

The biggest losers are Eya Hoya! and Willem Alexander, both losing 14 spots in the ranking

When looking at the albums, Eyo was the most popular, the average rank is 20.33, the next album is Mamasé (24.67) and then at a distance Engeltjes (32.92), Loko Le (35.69) and Alice in Wonderland (36.60). (The two singles without an album are K3 Loves you at place 20 and K3 kan het! at place 31.)

Full ranking below the cut! Though because of Tumblr lists it doesn't show ties, so it's only fully accurate until the 27th spot. (If anyone wants the full data feel free to message me)

So next is the HKM bracket, per popular demand it's going to be a 64 song bracket starting with a group stage that I will probably put up early next week so stay posted!

And that was it for the KKJ bracket, thanks everyone for voting and reblogging, it was a lot of fun to read your opinions and sometimes even song analyses! Hope to see you back for the HKM bracket!

MaMaSé

Waar zijn die engeltjes

Hallo K3

Meiden van de brandweer

Eyo!

Loko le

Zwaai als je verliefd bent

Beroemd

Lollypopland

K3-Airlines

Leukste van het land

Willem-Alexander

Handjes draaien

De politie

Ster

Drums gaan boem

Alice in Wonderland

Telepathie

Niet-verjaardagsfeest

K3 Loves You!

Parapluutje

Wanneer zie ik jou terug

Zeg eens AAA

Niet normaal

Filmster

Koning Willem-Alexander

Smoorverliefd

De revolutie

Geloof in jezelf

Dubbeldekkertrein

K3 Kan Het!

Eya Hoya!

Jurkje

Viva viool

Wat jij doet met mij

Blankenberge

Mijn liefje achterna

Kitty

En ik dans

Bel me ringeling

Kinderen baas

Kusje van jou

Hey hey

Cowboys en indianen

Alles kan in Wonderland

Verstoppertje

Gigaleuke dag

Vind ik leuk

Onder water

Ik wil naar huis

Doe de bloemendans

Naar de film

Op de kermis

Wie zal ik een kusje geven

Het steltenlied

Alleen door jou

Hiep hiep hoera

Mama kan alles

Radio

Leugentje leugentje

Ik wil niet naar huis gaan 

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Best K3 song bracket!

Don't ask me how long this took

Overview group stage post

Overview group stage B post

Overview bracket round 1 post

Overview bracket round 2 post

Overview bracket round 3 post

Overview bracket round 4 post

Overview quarter finals post

Overview semi-finals post

Overview finals post

Results!!!

So, ever since we got polls, I've been wanting to do more K3 polls and so I thought, what about a song tournament? But K3 has 285 songs, which is a bit impractical, so I thought maybe just the singles, but those are somewhere between 96 and 116, which is also not useful. So, I thought, what I do all those 96 singles and then add 32 more songs to it to make 128 which is a power of 2 and hence perfect for a bracket!

So that's what I did...

We will pick these 32 songs out of the other 189 K3 songs, through 20 polls of each 9 or 10 options, the winner of each poll will continue to the main bracket, but the 2nd and 3rd place of each poll will also continue to 4 other polls of 10 songs, of which the best 3 all continue to the main bracket.

I have a scheme:

(The colours are to divide the different 'eras' of K3, every generation is its own era except the og, because I always feel like the first 5 albums have different vibes from the last 4. This way I could make sure the eras were evenly divided over the polls.)

So, how will this work?

I will post the group polls over the coming week, 3 polls a day and they will all run for a week. After that I will post the first round of the bracket over 8 days (which means 8 polls a day), and I'll also all make them last a week. Eventually in later rounds I'll probably switch to 1 day polls, but I want everyone initially to get a chance to vote even if they find the tournament after a few days. I will tag all polls with #Best K3 song bracket.

FAQ:

How did you seed the bracket?

I seeded the songs based on number of Spotify plays, which has its limitations (not all songs are on Spotify for one), but felt fairer than using my own preferences and using Youtube views would be difficult because there are more versions from each song. There are 2 exceptions to this, after I finished putting everything in, I moved Willem-Alexander and Koning Willem-Alexander to be against each other in round 1, because I thought that would be funny and I swapped K3 Kan Het! and Toveren, because it didn't feel fair to put Toveren up to Superhero in the first round (I feel like it is more popular than Spotify shows).

How did you determine what songs are singles?

A combination of the Discografie van K3 Wikipedia page and looking at what songs have video clips. With clips from specials it was a bit confusing, because not all felt like they should be counted as singles? However the group stage should make sure all actual popular songs get through to the main bracket.

Why is this in English?

Because I want to leave the option open for international people to be(come) K3 fans.

What happens if a poll ends in a tie?

I will let them face off in a 1-day poll, if that doesn’t give a winner, both will continue.

What will you do after this tournament ends?

I polled my followers a few weeks ago to see if they’d be interested in seeing a bracket of only kkj, respectively hmk and hmj songs, as the og is pretty heavily favoured and I thought it would be cool to give the newer songs a place to shine, so I will continue with those (much smaller) tournaments

This will be added to

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Best K3 song bracket: HKM edition!

Group stage overview

Round 1 overview

Round 2 overview

Round 3 overview

Quarter finals overview

Semi finals overview

Finals overview

We all had fun in the full K3 song bracket, but because the og songs were dominating I suggested to hold separate polls for the other 3 generations and over 20 people thought that was a fun idea. The first of those 3 competitions, the KKJ bracket, has been finished now so it is time to move on the the third generation: the HKM bracket!

HKM have 73 songs (unless I missed something) and a poll has shown a preference for a 64 song bracket. We hence need to lose 9 songs, which we'll do by dividing the non-singles over 9 polls of 5/6 songs. Only the song with the least amount of votes will not move on to the bracket, all other songs will get a chance!

(The colours indicate the different albums, as I wanted to divide them more or less evenly over the groups.)

The songs from the group stage will then be placed in the bracket corresponding to their placing in the groups*

FAQ:

What will you tag the polls?

All polls will be tagged #Best HKM song bracket

When does the tournament start?

I'm planning to start on October 13th

How many polls will you post per day?

I have found that about 4 polls a day is nice for me in both a preparing way and being able to listen to the songs before voting way, so I’ll do that. The group stage will be posted over 2 days with 5 polls on one of the days though.

How did you seed the bracket/make the groups?

I seeded the bracket based on the songs' performance in the big bracket. (See this post for a full ranking of all 128 songs.) I did a similar thing for the group stage, but that was more coarse, as many songs only got 1 vote in the original group stage, so I got to also shuffle them around a bit to get a proper division of the different albums.

How did you determine what songs are singles?

A combination of the Discografie van K3 Wikipedia page and looking at what songs have video clips. With clips from specials it was a bit confusing, because not all felt like they should be counted as singles? However the group stage should make sure all actual popular songs get through to the main bracket.

Why is this in English?

Because I want to leave the option open for non-Dutch speaking people to be(come) K3 fans.

What happens if a poll ends in a tie?

I will let them face off in a 1-day poll, if that doesn’t give a winner, both will continue.

What happens if multiple songs in the group stage get zero votes?

In this case I will let them face off in a 1-day poll to determine a loser.

*OP reserves the right to switch the order of the group-stage songs in the final bracket based on results in the groups/earlier rankings (Because Winner Group 9 has a better rank than Winner Group 1 right now (because of reasons), while maybe Winner Group 1 proves to be much more popular. Though this was probably a bigger problem in the original bracket, where Winner Poule 20 was up against Tele-Romeo, the later number 2, and Winner Poule 1 was up against Bubbel which ended in 75th place.)

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Okay, while we’re waiting for the results of the quarter finals of the kkj bracket I have been thinking about the coming hkm bracket and the best way to do it, basically I have 2 options:

A 32 songs bracket, hkm have 73 songs of which 27 singles so placing the singles directly again doesn’t feel fair to the other songs so I would have a group stage of all songs to determine the 32 that will compete in the bracket. The kkj bracket is also 32 songs

A 64 songs bracket, this means only 9 songs will have to be eliminated, I would do this by placing all singles directly and putting the rest of the songs in 9 groups of which only the worst song doesn’t place