#Jeeves is demiromantic!

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Some folk in the fandom generally agree with the first one and the second one is my own projection.

Wooster from PG Woodhoused book series Jeeves and Wooster is often assumed to be asexual. A gay/bi men who is ace and likes his valet Jeeves.

But I also like to imagine them both being aromantic/demiromantic and asexual in a queer platonic relationship.

Ok so this one was kinda hard for me to do due to knowing less than nothing about this, and the internet not being very helpful, so I would really appreciate it if someone could let me know if I’ve made any mistakes. I couldn’t find any book photos, so I hope the series ones are ok.

That’s a lot ok right image ID’s

(Image ID 1: the asexual flag with Wooster in the middle. End image ID.)

(Image ID 2: the asexual flag with Wooster in the middle, and a gay male love male flag shaped like a heart to the left of him. End image ID.)

(Image ID 3: the asexual flag with Wooster in the middle, and a bi flag shaped like a heart to the left of him. End image ID.)

(Image ID 4: the asexual flag with Jeeves in the middle. End image ID.)

(Image ID 5: the demiromantic flag with Wooster in the middle. End image ID.)

(Image ID 6: the demiromantic flag with Jeeves in the middle. End image ID.)

(Image ID 7: the aromantic flag with the Wooster in the middle. End image ID.)

(Image ID 8: the aromantic flag with Jeeves in the middle. End image ID.)

(Image ID 9: the queer platonic flag with Wooster and Jeeves on it in the middle. End image ID.)

[aspecpplarebeautiful]

do you headcanon any characters as aro and/or ace?

I do! Here's some of my favourites:

Luffy from One Piece (aroace) - His indifference to romance/sex is very apparent throughout the comics.

Michael from The Good Place (aroace) - "Kissing is gross. You just mash your food holes together. It's not for that!"

Benton Fraser from Due South (demisexual/demiromantic) - It's canon that Fraser's only ever been attracted to two people, and both started after they were in a life and death situation together, so he seems to need to share a very specific type of bond. His lack of sexual/romantic interest in other people is also featured a lot on the show.

Elsa from Frozen (aroace spectrum and sapphic) - Not sure exactly where I see her, but she gives me strong vibes for both identities. Like many things with Elsa her identity is probably complicated.

Seven of Nine from Star Trek (gray-aroace) - Romance and sex don't seem to come as often or easily for her as the other characters, and often she seems to be trying to force it.

Bertie Wooster from the Jeeves books (aroace) - "Yes, miss. I doubt whether the union would have been a successful one. Mr Wooster is an agreeable young gentleman, but I would describe him as essentially one of nature's bachelors." Jeeves in Thank You, Jeeves.

Early in the series Bertie seems to experience some level of attraction, but it always passes pretty quickly and easily. By the time you get into the most of the novels, he's completely disinterested in any kind of relationship at all.

I could post a lot of these, so just sticking to some of my top ones. Does anyone else have any headcanons they like? Feel free to add your own!

[katy-133]

Some Ace Headcanons and Tropes

Happy June, I made this post for discussing characters who I headcanon as ace, as well as discussing some tropes related to ace coding.

Ace, or asexuality, is when a person feels little to no sexual attraction towards others. This is separate from being aromantic, which is feeling a lack of romantic attraction (though an asexual person can also be aromantic, not all ace people are).

For some of the characters I've listed below, I'll specify as romantic ace (aka, aceallo), someone who feels romantic attraction whilst feeling a lack of sexual attraction. Or demiromantic, someone who feels romantic attraction only after forming a deep emotional bond with a person. Others I'll use the ace umbrella word exclusively.

While you can headcanon characters that fly in the face of canon, I like my ace headcanons to be canon-friendly. Meaning, if the story were to ever confirm that the character is ace, it would not contradict previous characterisation.

Bertie Wooster from Jeeves & Wooster as romantic ace:

The entire book series (and tv adaptation) is about Bertie trying to find ways of getting out of arranged marriages and accidental engagements with various women. These woman are canonically stated to be beautiful--sometimes by Bertie himself. Therefore, Bertie doesn't want to marry them because he finds their looks off-putting, he doesn't want to be with them for another reason. So the plot can be read as an ace story (it is a common experience for ace people to feel pressured by their family to marry someone). Bertie can be read as specifically romantic ace. He's fallen in love (with Miss Wickham and Pauline Stoker). In the books, there's this running motif of Bertie (who narrates the stories) describing his butler-valet, Jeeves, in a way that a person would typically describe their love interest or spouse, with Bertie sometimes making the comparison himself. This has led to interpretations of Bertie being in love with Jeeves.

Crowley from Good Omens as romantic ace:

Is a demon who falls in love with an angel and proceeds to pine for him for 6000 years (which I'm sure is some sort of slow burn world record). There's this trope that demon characters will aggressively flirt and try to seduce another character (the trope's origin stemming from the idea that evil and corruption is seductive in some way, as well as links with the succubus in folklore), which Crowley markedly subverts. Also, take Lucifer in the titular Fox/Netflix series (also based on a work linked with writer Neil Gaiman) and compare him with Crowley in that aspect--Lucifer acts more allosexual and is canonically in multiple sexual relationships. Fiction isn't created in a bubble, so this trope's context helps to code Crowley as ace, as he's subverting a trope (human-looking demons) linked with allosexuality ("demons are seductive"--though ace people can also flirt, in fiction it's often used as a shorthand for allosexuality).

Tintin from The Adventures of Tintin:

Is never given a love interest in the canon, nor shows interest in pursuing it, despite the series being 24 albums and the other protagonists of the "globetrotting adventurer" genre often have love interests (James Bond, Uncharted, Indiana Jones). Similar to Crowley, above, Tintin is subverting a staple aspect of the genre he exists in.

Sniper (Mick Mundy) from Team Fortress 2 as romantic ace:

Sniper never shows attraction towards a woman in any part of TF2's canon (which is particularly notable to me compared to some of the other mercs, who do). We see that Sniper's closest loved ones are his parents; he has no wife or girlfriend (the Administrator only threatens his parents also in the comics). While Sniper's backstory is a direct homage to Superman and is about him being adopted from outside his place of birth, his backstory can also be read as queer coded (he didn't fit in with his peers and he felt like there was something that made him different from them). Sniper is considered to not be attractive by typical Australian standards (in TF2's universe, Australians have superhuman strength and grow moustaches, due to a fictional element called Australium), so Sniper may have never had a relationship while living in Australia, but wanted to. His design and character based on Crocodile Dundee (the lead in a romantic comedy film), but despite that association (and repeated references to it), Sniper has no love interest.

Nick Valentine from Fallout 4 as romantic ace:

He's a robot detective (in the Fallout universe, he's not actually a robot, but a "synth," or synthetic man, but in terms of his character archetype, he falls under the robot archetype. Unlike other companions in the game, you can't be physically intimate with him to gain stat boosts. He has a deceased fiance whom he remembers fondly, and whenever he talks about her, he doesn't allude to sexual attraction, allowing the player to read his love for her as exclusively romantic. Robot characters being ace coded is an old trope with negative associations (such as ace people being viewed as "cold, robotic, and/or emotionless"), but Nick Valentine (being a companion character who gets his own backstory and inner conflict) ends up feeling more human than other characters in the story, subverting the trope. Nick Valentine's symbol is a heart. A neon heart is on his detective agency sign, which you see before you even meet him, a reference to his surname (Valentine = heart). The ace of hearts is an ace symbol for romantic aces (with other card suits representing other aces). Though I would guess naming him Valentine was done to reference different noir detectives (whom Nick is inspired by) being named after card suits (Sam Spade, Nick Diamond), the ace association is still there for viewers.

Reigen Arataka from Mob Psycho 100 as romantic ace:

When Mob asks Reigen for advice on confessing to a crush (season 3 in the anime), Reigen cheats by reading advice he found online. His colleague Serizawa notices this and notes that Reigen is inexperienced with relationships. Later on in the conversation, Reigen tells Serizawa that he thinks he'd be rejected if a woman got to know him for who he really is. He's referring to being a con artist, but the scene can also feel ace coded if you read it as Reigen being worried that a girlfriend would dump him if they found out that he was asexual. Earlier in the story, Reigen has a conversation with the spirit Dimple about a spirit stalking a woman. Dimple says, "It's pretty uncommon for spirits to have any sexual desire. We couldn't reproduce if we wanted to." Reigen replies, "Is sexual desire always a part of love, though? I-I really don't want to talk about this with you." Meaning that Reigen separates romantic attraction from sexual attraction.

Dexter Morgan from Dexter as demiromantic ace:

Does not show sexual attraction in the books, as well as the first season of the show (but does show sexual attraction in later seasons that deviate from the books, but we don't talk about those seasons). He describes himself as not being interested in sex. As he puts it, "For me, sex never enters into it. I don't understand sex. Not that I have anything against women, and I certainly have an appropriate sensibility about men, but when it comes to the actual act of sex, it's always just seems so undignified."). Again, similar to robot characters, killers being coded as ace is an old trope with negative connotations. It equates sexual attraction with humanity, empathy, and good moral alignment--implying that asexual people are in some way inhuman or cold. While he's still an antihero or villain protagonist, Dexter in a way subverts this idea, as he only targets other killers, and as the story progresses, he learns more about humanity and it becomes clear to the reader that he's not as inhuman as he describes himself. Dexter also has a girlfriend, Rita, and they're in a celibate relationship due to her past trauma with her ex husband. This leads to conflict in their relationship when Rita later starts questing if they should remove the celibate part of their relationship and Dexter tries to find ways to keep it. Dexter agrees to being her boyfriend at first to help "blend in" as a normal human, but ultimately proves to genuinely care about Rita as a girlfriend. The dramatic irony of him being ace coded and living in Miami, Florida was also a great choice ("Every night in Miami is date night," as Dexter puts it). It leads to Dexter constantly bombarded with his allo colleagues talking about their relationship problems and him awkwardly trying to pretend to relate to it. This can be read as queer coded, as Dexter is trying to fit in while feeling like there's something about him that makes him different from those around him.

Sherlock Holmes:

Film (and to a lesser extent, television) adaptations of Sherlock Holmes have a habit of making the character Irene Addler as Sherlock's love interest. She is not this in the original books, she is known as "the woman" because she taught Sherlock the important lesson of not underestimating someone because of their gender. Sherlock shows no romantic interest in women in the books, with his strongest bond being with Watson. Watson, the narrator, frames it as Sherlock being married to his (Sherlock's) work, which is a trope that invites ace interpretations (read as: It's not just "the work" that keeps them from pursuing sexual relationships--it's their orientation that led to them pursing "the work," reversing the framing). Similar to the "cold killer" character type talked about with Dexter, the "married to their work" trope can have negative inference that the character is cold or unfeeling by valuing their work over their interpersonal relationships. Though in the Sherlock Holmes books, Sherlock is shown to care about Watson as well as show compassion to other characters, including the culprits of some of the storys' mysteries.

Tropes are patterns in storytelling. They're tools, and can be subverted and altered in different ways. They have a history, and learning about their origins and their purpose in a story can help inform you as a storyteller.

In conclusion:

"Aces!" -Sniper

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"How do you feel about it?"

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/wa9drN8 " by purple_mechanicalpencils “How do you like it?” he asked. “Like what, old fruit?” I replied. “The sex.” Words: 664, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English Fandoms: Jeeves & Wooster, Jeeves - P. G. Wodehouse Rating: Not Rated Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Reginald Jeeves Relationships: Reginald Jeeves/Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Reginald Jeeves & Bertram "Bertie" Wooster Additional Tags: Pillow Talk, Asexual Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Demiromantic Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Mentioned Richard "Bingo" Little, Asexuality Spectrum, Conversations, my best Wodehouse voice, no beta we die like no one ever does in this show/books, bc Wodehouse literally just wants to write about his blorbos having adventures, and honestly who doesn't " read it on AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/54994981

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Yes! It’s really interesting actually because it makes me convinced that Bertie has never been in love before. He kind of thought he loved Florence and Bobby and Gwladys, but he didn’t get like that with them. He was all, ��corking girl!” But he didn’t go on and on to anyone who would listen about how amazing they are. Bingo does that every time, but Bertie only does it about Jeeves, and his obliviousness about it is what makes me headcanon Bertie as ace or demi (and by demi I mean both demisexual and demiromantic). He thought that when he liked the look of Florence’s profile, that must have been that attraction and love stuff everyone is always talking about. Maybe he doesn’t recognize it with Jeeves because coves don’t go with other coves (as far as he knows). He sincerely believes that he met the most amazing person in the world, and has no idea that he’s just in love.

(Of course I also like to hc that he does figure it out eventually and they live happily ever after lol)

When a vicious Aberdeen terrier has chased you and an ex-magistrate who hates you up on the furniture together, but you can’t resist using the occasion to gush about the heroics of your valet

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Bertie and the secret friend

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/OgP5lvm " by ally_holmes Contains Spoilers so people won't feel tricked to read the thing. Bertie Wooster is absolutely convinced that his feelings for his valet, Jeeves, are returned and so he decides to confess. It does not go well. Aunt Agatha wants him to marry a young lady, Jeeves on her side, the lady willing to endure his ridiculous demands... Bertie feels alone and unloved. He sees no other way out than to end his life, yet that doesn't work when Jeeves saves him in the last second. To help with his mental recovery, Bingo Little sends for their mutual friend, Neil Bishop. Neil and Bertie had an understanding a long time ago, and Neil's familiarity with Bertie won't be well received by Jeeves. We will explore more of Bertie's secret friend and past as Jeeves slowly but surely finds confidence in his own feelings. This is an emotional hurt/comfort, angs with happy ending, slow burn fanfic. Please read the tags. Words: 2300, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Series: Part 3 of Jeeves and Wooster Fandoms: Jeeves & Wooster Rating: Explicit Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Categories: M/M Characters: Reginald Jeeves, Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Richard P. "Bingo" Little, OMC, OFM, Background cast of the fandom Relationships: Reginald Jeeves/Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Bertram "Bertie" Wooster/OMC Additional Tags: Tags Contain Spoilers, Love Confessions, Unrequited Love, OR IS IT, Requited Love, Past Relationship(s), Jeeves and Bertie slow burn, Jeeves thinks he's so smart but then his world twist, Competent Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Bertie has secrets, Period-Typical Homophobia, Depression, Suicidal Thoughts, Suicide Attempt, He Survives Though, We will see the aftermath of that attempt, Aunt Dahlia will protect Bertie, Angst with a Happy Ending, Jealous Jeeves, demiromantic bertie, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Happy Ending, Jeeves LOVES Bertie, and he will act on it, he may just need a little push, Aunt Agatha being her devil self as we know " read it on AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/52687294

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Songbird

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/caG8VS6 " by TooManyFandoms2Name Bertie has been playing a lot of love songs lately, and has yet to figure out that he’s fallen in love. Words: 4475, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English Fandoms: Jeeves & Wooster, Jeeves - P. G. Wodehouse Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Reginald Jeeves, Bertram "Bertie" Wooster Relationships: Reginald Jeeves/Bertram "Bertie" Wooster, Jooster - Relationship Additional Tags: Jooster, Asexual Bertie Wooster, demiromantic Bertie wooster, bertie Wooster is asexual, bertie Wooster is demiromantic, jeeves is probably demi, or maybe Jeeves is gay, You Decide, First Kiss, Feelings Realization, Realization, Love Confessions, Confessions, Drunken Confessions, Getting Together, Pre-Relationship, bertie Wooster needs a hug, bertie Wooster gets a hug, Fluff, fluff with plot, Hurt/Comfort, Sort Of, confession through songs, Bertie is a helpless romantic when he’s in love apparently, Songfic, almost songfic, like not specific songs, i just kinda bullshitted it, no energy to research and incorporate period-specific love songs " read it on AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/51098575