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sometimes i wonder if all those times that john constantine allegedly appeared to his writers irl weren’t actually meant to be read by them as an endorsement of their talents or his personal acknowledgment of their influence in his life (the way i used to generally romanticize those stories to mean), but were maybe more intended as like…..a Straight-Up Threat. or, more charitably, as some kind of flying-too-close-to-the-sun warning. just because it’s funny to me to think how (almost) every writer who “encountered” him decided without question to fuck off posthaste, and equally funny to wonder how — assuming he actively chose to make himself known to them, rather than merely running into them on accident — constantine wouldn’t have seen that reaction coming from a mile away.
i mean, if anyone should know best about constantine’s penchant for bringing down disaster on anyone & everyone around him, it would be him and the people who officially contributed to enforcing that penchant, right? so it’d just be common sense for the intelligent, meta-aware fictional character to think: “if i — the living breathing embodiment of a rockfall zone caution sign — go up to the dudes who made me this way, they will probably (wisely) assume my presence indicates that they are now in higher-than-previous danger of being hit by falling rocks — a danger which will only increase the longer they stay within my immediate proximity — and they will surely feel compelled to bugger off accordingly.” at which point he could logically conclude that there are undoubtedly better, less-mortally-endangering methods of paying respects to his creators than popping out of a sandwich bar stairwell and scaring the shit out of alan moore.
(unless john thinks his writers would get just as much thrill from that kind of adrenaline rush as he does, given they thought to make him that way; which, tbh, i would not put past him to assume. or unless he simply does not care to expend all the extra energy on plotting a meticulously inoffensive approach just to tell someone ‘hi’, which i also would not put past him.)
as much of a shit as he can be, i can’t really picture john constantine making the conscious decision to put the fear of god into the writers who made him without a really good reason for it. he doesn’t believe in fate or destiny or anyone pulling his strings, so even if he didn’t like something they wrote, i figure he’d just set his mind to changing it rather than lending credence to the writers’ supposed influence over his life by taking his grievances up with them. so if constantine were running around the real world actively jumpscaring the people who are most likely to genuinely fear him, knowing they’re the people most likely to genuinely fear him, i can only imagine it being a choice he makes to jar his writers out of some complacent drift that’s been leading them over the line between fiction and forbidden knowledge; or something to that effect. a scare tactic, but a preventative one.
anyway, all this said to provide context for the entertaining mental image i had of constantine rocking up to some stranger’s party in 2009 all cool & confident, thrice-assured of his ability to rattle his writers just by showing his face, only to have to beat the hastiest of hasty retreats with fresh horror in his soul after notorious freak-shit woman-hating character-mangler peter milligan gets one good look at him and comes barreling down the pipe trying to ask what john thinks of the college-aged deviantart-emo wife.
#if this doesn’t make any damn sense or loses coherence midway through: it’s bc i started this post with one train of thought#which was ‘what if john showing up to his writers is Meant to be as freaky as they all perceive the encounter to be��#and then i paused to read some interviews with delano and realized#it had not Once occurred to me that the writers and john might have just been running into each other purely by accident#i fell into the classic trap…..i fed into his façade and forgot that he could just be a Regular Guy#but ok listen walk with me. if he WAS appearing to his writers on purpose#just trolling them a little to realign their priorities or remind them that he’s just another guy strolling by the british museum#tbh on the one hand? would be kinda stellar if i ever had my own irl constantine sighting in the wild#would reassure me that at least Some element of my writing does him a bit of justice. connects Somehow to the soul of original hellblazer#on the other hand: catching sight of that man within a thousand foot radius would be as good for my health as if i watched the ring tape#i do NOT invite that awful nightmare mojo into my life i’d rather write new52. i can build up my OWN self-confidence THANK you very much#also tho i don’t live in england. i doubt he’d bother w/ the air fare. also also i’m not an official hellblazer comic writer#which i feel is probably the most Obvious disqualifying factor for receiving a johnstantine visitation#i’d say it also also ALSO disqualifies me that i am nowhere NEAR the writing level of alan moore or jamie delano (which is true)#but azzarello & milligan Also say they saw him. so clearly skill is not a deciding factor in who john elects to haunt in public 💅#unless they were both lying. which i would absolutely believe.#not on any factual grounds just based on vibes#altho peter milligan having an irl john sighting & choosing to run After him just proves he’s the worst hellblazer writer of all time imo#even azzarello was brighter than That#on second thought i hope milligan Wasn’t lying and just left out that john decked him in the face at the end#dissecting a fictional character’s possible motives for allegedly appearing to real people 🤝 shitting on milligan in my mind#losing my mind in the middle of the night what else is new#john constantine#oxly hollers#scheduled.
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In the is new interview for Rolling Stone, Allan Heinberg talks about creating season 1 of The Sandman, and the plans for the future.
I particularly want to highlight the following two segments:
RS: You changed John Constantine — the same character played by Keanu Reeves in 2005’s Constantine — to Johanna Constantine in this show, played by Jenna Coleman. But ironically, the episode you did with her felt like the best adaptation ever of the John Constantine Hellblazer comic books.
AH: Oh, thank you. We were able to do the original John Constantine origin story [an exorcism gone wrong] in Newcastle. That’s all stuff that [original Hellblazer comic-book writer] Jamie Delano put in the comic. So as much as the character is not the same, I felt like we were very faithful to the spirit of the book. In the earlier iterations of that episode, we had the whole Hellblazer supporting cast — Chas and Renee were both in it, gender-swapped, like so. So we had a blast, and Jenna is so amazing in it that it left us all just hungry for more of both Lady Johanna and contemporary Johanna Constantine.
RS: How many seasons would it take to tell the whole story from the comic books?
AH: In success, we could talk about doing all kinds of things. If we’re able to do more standalone anthology issues, then it would take longer than if we were just staying on Dream’s track. And we’d love to do more Johanna Constantine in the present. The Corinthian could return, because he’s not really in the comic again – except for one cameo – until later. So it depends on what people respond to, and how many viewers we have and how much success we have as a Season One show. It could go on for quite some time, if we had the viewers.
#rolling stone#interview#allan heinberg#the sandman#sandman#sandman on Netflix#johanna constantine#lady johanna constantine#jenna coleman#jenna louise coleman
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Rituals & Declarations, Issue 2 of 4, edited by Paul Watson, Spring 2020. Cover art by Maria Strutz, info: ritualsdeclarations.bigcartel.com.
Limited run small-press magazine about the Weird, published quarterly during 2020. Issue 1 out in January, issue 2 due early April.
Contents: A Thousand Furrows Deep – by Natasha Kindred On Old English Medical Remedies: an interview with Sinéad Spearing – Interview by Madeleine Boyne Acid Renaissance: Albion’s True Standard Advanced – art update by Paul Watson The Cairn: the Maggie Wall Monument and the Witch in the Scottish landscape – by Allyson Shaw Finn of the Islunds – Fiction by Jamie Delano The Burryman of South Queensferry: the Past within the Present – by Grey Malkin Cuckoo – Fiction by Sylvia Warren To Be Loved by the Trees: Living with Nature in the Modern World – by L B Limbrey Cunning County by Emily Banting – Hookland Fiction by David Southwell, with art by Maria Strutz Masquerade – Fiction by Kate Hawes
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VERTIGO: A CELEBRATION OF 25 YEARS HC curated by SCOTT BRYAN WILSON introduction by SCOTT SNYDER afterword by MARK DOYLE interviews with Garth Ennis, Glenn Fabry, Jamie Delano, Colleen Doran, Jeff Lemire, Jock, Lee Bermejo, Becky Cloonan, Mark Buckingham, Peter Milligan, Sean Murphy, Todd Klein, Ann Nocenti, Kurt Busiek, Paul Levitz, Devin Grayson, Rachel Pollack, Cliff Chiang, J.M. DeMatteis, Paul Jenkins, Mike Allred, Brian K. Vaughan and dozens of other Vertigo creators design cover featuring art by CHRIS BACHALO One of the most influential imprints in comics history celebrates its 25th anniversary in this lavish collection of art and interviews, VERTIGO: A CELEBRATION OF 25 YEARS! This deluxe hardcover revisits the history of the innovative imprint as told by the people who lived it. A luxurious hybrid of oral history and retrospective art book, VERTIGO: A CELEBRATION OF 25 YEARS features a comprehensive timeline of every Vertigo project ever released and insightful new interviews and behind-the-scenes intrigue with Vertigo writers, artists, editors, designers and publishers, while showcasing the magnificent Vertigo covers and interiors from some of comics’ greatest and most influential artists. Vertigo has long been renowned for some of the best graphic story-telling of all time, as it’s been home to such groundbreaking series as THE SANDMAN, SAGA OF THE SWAMP THING, THE INVISIBLES, DOOM PATROL, Y: THE LAST MAN, PREACHER, FABLES, 100 BULLETS—and that’s just to start. With Neil Gaiman, Grant Morrison, Brian K. Vaughan, Scott Snyder, Garth Ennis, Brian Azzarello, Frank Quitely, Matt Wagner, Jeff Lemire and countless others among its illustrious alumni, Vertigo has been the place where iconic talent and story meet. VERTIGO: A CELEBRATION OF 25 YEARS is a dynamic look back at some of the greatest comics in industry history. ON SALE 11.07.18 $39.99 US | 400 PAGES FC | MATURE READERS
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Can't Take A Joke? - Preview John Constantine: Hellblazer #1 From Spurrier, Campbell And DC Comics
Can’t Take A Joke? – Preview John Constantine: Hellblazer #1 From Spurrier, Campbell And DC Comics
As well as releasing a preview of the new John Constantine: Hellblazer series coming out from DC Black Label, DC Comics have posted an interview with series writer Simon ‘Si’ Spurrier on their official website here. There have been many great British writers chronicling Constantine’s solo adventures over the years, from Alan Moore, to Jamie Delano and Mike Carey, and now Simon ‘Si’ Spurrier too.…
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Sanders goes full FDR in defense of democratic socialism
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Bernie Sanders argued Wednesday that the United States is at a moment as urgent as the one it found itself in during the 1930s: Authoritarianism and oligarchy are on the march across the world, he said, and the best way to defeat them is with an emphatic break from the mainstream politics of either party.
In a major campaign speech designed to counter critics of his democratic socialist ideology, the Vermont senator proposed a “21st century economic Bill of Rights” that would ensure the right to a decent job, health care, affordable housing, higher education, secure retirement and a clean environment.
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Sanders, whose family members were killed in the Holocaust, also reminded audience members that tens of thousands of Nazis gathered in 1939 “not in Berlin, not in Rome — but in Madison Square Garden, in front of a 30-foot-tall banner of George Washington bordered with swastikas.” But instead of falling for fascism, he said, Americans followed the path of New Deal liberalism.
“We rejected the ideology of Mussolini and Hitler. We instead embraced the bold and visionary leadership of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt,” he said. “Together with organized labor, leaders in the African-American community, and progressives inside and outside the party, Roosevelt led a transformation of the American government and the American economy.”
Sanders drew a line between the Nazis who gathered in New York City in 1939 to the neo-Nazis who marched in Charlottesville in 2017. At the same time, he tied himself to Roosevelt: One of his biggest applause lines came when he recalled a well-known campaign speech that Roosevelt delivered in 1936.
Sanders repeated Roosevelt’s famous words that he had to struggle against “class antagonism,” “sectionalism,” “war-profiteering” and other foes: “Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred,” Sanders said.
The audience erupted, chanting “Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!” Some of them wore red T-shirts boosting Sanders’ proposed “Medicare for All.”
Sanders replied, “I must say, it does sound a little contemporary, doesn’t it?”
The independent presidential candidate also used the speech to tie himself to the Democratic Party, rattling off numerous examples of times that Democratic presidents, from FDR to John F. Kennedy to Bill Clinton, were derided as socialists. And he said that, in embracing a new “economic Bill of Rights” like FDR proposed shortly before he died, he was trying to complete the unfinished business of the Democratic Party.
“Today, our Bill of Rights guarantees the American people a number of constitutionally protected political rights,” Sanders said. “Now, we must take the next step forward and guarantee every man, woman and child in our country basic economic rights — the right to quality health care, the right to as much education as one needs to succeed in our society, the right to a decent job, the right to affordable housing, the right to a secure retirement and the right to live in a clean environment.”
In trying to tie his campaign to Roosevelt, Sanders was also making an implicit argument about his electability, a question mark that’s hovered over both his campaigns for president. “FDR and his progressive coalition created the New Deal, won four terms, and created an economy that worked for all and not just the few,” he said.
Sanders’ speech triggered a response from some of his most unpopular rivals. JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon said that “socialism means that the government owns and controls companies,” and uses them for “political purposes, for jobs and votes.”
Meanwhile, Republican leaders saw an opportunity to use Sanders’ speech to hitch all Democratic presidential candidates to socialism. Sen. Marco Rubio released a video today blasting democratic socialism, saying it “hasn’t worked anywhere in the world” and “is incompatible with our American values.” The Republican National Committee also continued its series of emails titled “Bernie ❤ socialism,” with today’s missive ending with the line “so do his 2020 comrades.”
In an interview with POLITICO before the speech, Sanders said conservatives have long misled Americans about democratic socialism.
“Over the years, you have right-wing politicians who are trying to lump socialism into authoritarianism and into communism,” he said. “They are very different ideologies.”
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The Triumphant Return of Vertigo
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The most influential comics imprint of all time is back in full force, as DC kicks off a new era for Vertigo.
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Interview Marc Buxton
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Sep 4, 2018
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Sandman. Fables. Preacher. Lucifer. iZombie. Y, the Last Man, Transmetropolitan, 100 Bullets. The Books of Magic. These are just some of the titles that have forged the legend of Vertigo.
Since the late 1980s, Vertigo has been DC’s imprint for cutting edge, mature comics that defy limitations and genre. Some of the greatest voices in comics, including Neil Gaiman, Garth Ennis, Grant Morrison, Brian K. Vaughan, Brian Azzarello, Ed Brubaker, Peter Milligan, Jamie Delano, G. Willow Wilson, and so many more have walked the razor’s edge of Vertigo and through daring and constant experimentation, have broken the barriers of traditional comics and crafted the future. But for the past few years, the Vertigo output has been sparse. Yes, there have been cool projects here and there, but even the most ardent Vertigo supporter would have to admit that the flame of Vertigo has been burning low.
That’s all about to change with the roll out of seven new Vertigo titles that will reignite the brand and remind people why Vertigo is the go to place for new ideas and innovative talent. We checked in with Vertigo Executive Editor Mark Doyle for a breakdown of all the dizzying new ideas that will soon be infecting the unsuspecting comic book market.
Just so you know, I’m a big Vertigo head from years back. I spent my formative years wearing eye shadow and black nail polish because of Neil Gaiman.
You too?
That being said, why is now the time in this busy marketplace for a DC Vertigo relaunch and rebrand?
It’s the 25th anniversary. Once something has been around for a while, it’s time to look at it and say, “What’s working, what’s not? What do we like about this? What don’t we like about this?” That’s kind of the catalyst to all this. And, it also felt like it was the right time to look at the kind of stories we were doing and reevaluate things.
The last few years, the Vertigo output has been small. Quality but small. I just finished Death Bed, I enjoyed Motherlands, and Of course you’ve had Astro City rocking because that book is just the best. How did you go from those few titles into a complete Vertigo relaunch?
I came back to Vertigo in spring 2017. We restructured the editorial team. There were a few editors who were already here and we brought in two other editors and me. In restructuring, we sat down and said, “What are we doing? What do we like? What aren’t we doing? Where do we want to relaunch?”
If you remember, July of last year is when we teased the idea of “8-8-18.” Because we knew at that point we were relaunching the entire line and Sandman Universe. We knew that’s where we would do it. That was us planting a flag and saying, “Hey, we might be sort of dormant for the next year, but we’re going to be putting some things out but keep your eyes out on this date because big things are coming.”
That gave us the time, and, honestly, I’m grateful for the company for saying, “Take a minute, take a breath, figure out what you want to do and then go from there.” The next step after planting that flag was: let’s sit down and talk about what we want to do, what type of stories do we want to tell? What do we want to publish? What are we excited to publish? What are we a little bit scared to publish? From there, let’s find the talent to meet that criteria.
To you, what makes a Vertigo creator in 2018?
It just has to be someone with a voice with something to say.
I don’t think you’ll argue with me when I say what’s going on in comics right now is because of the influence of Vertigo, because of Preacher and Sandman and Transmetropolitan and Y and 100 Bullets and everything. That kind of made the book market. That led the way. Do you feel a sense of responsibility to plant the flags now so people in 2045 will look back and be like, “Yup, we’re here because of Vertigo.”
One hundred percent. And responsibility is the right word. That’s what I feel when I walk into work every day. I, like you, love Vertigo. I found Vertigo at a time that mattered the most to me. I take it very seriously that it’s my job to carry that torch and tell stories for a new generation of readers. That’s the goal.
Why the rebranding of DC Vertigo? Why add the DC to the already established brand?
It’s part of an overall publishing plan. I think the company is making some great moves to go from DC Comics to DC Publishing with different books aimed at readers of different age groups, styles and tastes. It makes sense to be a part of that.
Obviously Vertigo’s bread and butter has always been the book market, are there any plans to try to keep increase the single issues’ presence in the direct market? How are you going to get those Wednesday warriors to support the single issues?
That’s a good question, and it’s an ongoing conversation. It’s a lot of stuff we’re doing that I can’t talk about yet.
One of the things we’re doing is that, rather than look at them as two markets we’re trying to look at it as creating a cohesive campaign with a message. The books are so diverse; you can’t just sell the books to the same person. It’s more about, how do you sell each of these books individually? How do we reach a potential audience that each one of these books have, and make sure that the message is clear from the periodical and direct market and trade market and book market. Make sure we have all the teams in the room together creating one cohesive campaign.
further reading: Sandman - The Essential Horror Comic of the 1990s.
The other half of it is, really, we have a lot of really smart plans from the digital side and house ad side. We want to engage the creator’s fan base. We have creators bringing in eyeballs from other media and other aspects of this business and reaching out to them.
How does Warners look at the Vertigo label knowing that you gave them iZombie, you gave them Lucifer, you gave them Preacher? I think every fan knows Sandman is the next Lord of the Rings waiting to happen, you just have to get the right visionary. 100 Bullets is one day going to take the world by storm. Does Warners look at Vertigo as an IP machine away from the superhero genre?
Yes, I think so. I am part of those conversations, but, look, at the end of my day, that’s not my job; my job is to make great comic books. That’s what I love to do. Look, I’m a total cinephile…I read comics because I want to read comics. I make comics because I want to make comics.
Right, I don’t think anyone wants to read a comic that is obviously a failed TV pitch. The Walking Dead was a great comic. No one had any idea that this could happen, and that’s why this happened.
Exactly, and I’m not looking at anything we are publishing now or developing now as anything that’s like, “Well, this would be a really expensive TV show so maybe we shouldn’t use aliens or spaceships.” I can’t do that. Anything that limits the creator, I’m not interested in. At the end of the day, that’s someone else’s job. I could make a great book. And look at the things that have been developed. The comics are an inspiration.
Right, I don’t think when anyone was reading Mike Carey’s Lucifer they said, “You know, this is going to be a really good police procedural one day!”
Exactly.
Talk about genres, other than Hex Wives from Ben Blacker and Mirka Andolfo and American Carnage by Bryan Hill and Leandro Fernandez, these new titles seem to be exploring genres outside Vertigo’s sweat spots of dark fantasy and crime. Is this a redefining of what DC Vertigo could be or can we expect more classic Vertigo books after the initial roll out?
I love all genres and I’m happy to explore them all. I’ve never thought of us as being about this genre or that genre, to me it’s always been about telling great stories and creating new characters. To do that, you have to be open. My hope is that we continue to grow and people see that we can do anything and everything. Historical fiction, romance, non-fiction…whatever. If it’s a great story it belongs here.
Let’s talk about each one of the new Vertigo books...
Border Town by Eric M. Esquivel and Ramon Villalobos
When a crack in the border between worlds releases an army of monsters from Mexican folklore into the small town of Devil’s Fork, Arizona, the residents blame the ensuing weirdness — the shared nightmares, the otherworldly radio transmissions, the mysterious goat mutilations — on “God-dang illegals.” With racial tensions supernaturally charged, it’s up to new kid in town Frank Dominguez and a motley crew of high school misfits to discover what’s REALLY going on. (September)
This seems like the most ripped-from-the-headlines type of new Vertigo book. Talk about the genesis of this project.
This sounds like I might be dodging the question, but honestly, when the pitch came in it was one of those pitches, I was like, “Yes, one hundred percent, yes!” It was a one page pitch at the beginning, and it just clicked.
But here’s exactly how this book got put together. It started when editor Jamie Rich was talking with Eric Esquivel. Eric had pitched a few things over the years. Jamie is editing the Batman books now, but he was here at Vertigo when I started, and we developed a lot of stuff together…Eric pitched a lot of stuff and nothing was clicking. Then Jamie went to Eric and did what good editors do which is say, “Pitch me the thing that only you can write. Pitch me the thing you can’t do anywhere else.” Eric regrouped and he came back with Border Town.
And here’s an interesting genesis, in between Jamie getting the pitch from Eric, Jamie moved over and did the Batman books full time, the book moved over to editor Andy Khouri. Andy loved the pitch, and immediately came back with Ramon as the artist. It was just sort of this combination one editor talking to a guy and being passed along and evolving. Watching them work together is incredible. There was this great moment where Jamie read it and thanked us because it was amazing.
There were some early disturbing, angry responses to this book including some disturbing stuff around San Diego Comic-Con, how do you deal with the risks surrounding such polarizing issues as you enter this new Vertigo line?
I mean, look, I don’t take any of this lightly, but, I look at it as, if someone is talking about this in a good way or a bad way, we’re doing our job right. We should be making books that elicit a response one way or another.
Right, you’re not doing Richie Rich.
Right. No. It goes back to your earlier question: What’s a Vertigo creator today? A Vertigo creator today is someone with a voice. And, Erica and Ramon have something to say. It’s my job to help them tell their story. If someone has a problem with that then don’t read the book, because frankly, I don’t want you anyway.
Hex Wives by Ben Blacker and Mirka Andolfo
“The women are too powerful. They must be tamed.” A malevolent conspiracy of men brainwashes a coven of witches to be subservient, suburban housewives. But it’s only a matter of time before the women remember their power... (October)
This seems like the most classic Vertigo style book of all the new titles. Was there a conscious choice of including a classic supernatural style Vertigo book?
Yes and no. We sort of started with the big picture top down question of what genres we want to do. But it wasn’t buckets we had to fill. It wasn’t like I kept hitting the pavement until I got a witch book. It wasn’t like that. But when it came in from Ben, you felt it scratching some itches. Not only did it feel like a classic Vertigo book, it felt very present. It felt like, “Oh yeah, with this set up we can absolutely explore some interesting things that we can explore right now.” Ben is just so genuinely interested in the process of everything… it really comes through in the work.
American Carnage by Bryan Hill and Leandro Fernandez
In this thrilling crime saga, disgraced FBI agent Richard Wright, who is biracial but can pass for white, goes undercover in a white supremacist group believed to be responsible for the death of a fellow agent. (November)
Bryan Hill has been killing it on Detective Comics. This book seems like it’s in the same zeitgeist as Spike Lee’s new film and the Vertigo classic Incognegro. What drew you to this book?
I think what I liked about this book is that it was a crime story. There was a high concept pitch to it. You’ll see when you start digging into it; it’s just an incredible, complex crime story where you have a hero that’s walking into a world thinking, “I get this. I can do this. I can subvert this.” Everything seems black and white and then everything changes once they get wrapped up in it.
Goddess Mode by Zoë Quinn and Robbi Rodriguez
In a near future where all of humanity’s needs are administered by a godlike A.I., it’s one young woman’s horrible job to do tech support on it. But when Cassandra finds herself violently drawn into a hidden and deadly digital world beneath our own, she discovers a group of super-powered women and horrific monsters locked in a secret war for the cheat codes to reality. (December)
This seems the most experimental of the new line. What makes this a perfect part of the Vertigo launch?
I think experimental is a good word. I think some people might turn their nose up at experimental, but I think good things come out of experimental. Again, it was the guiding light on all these books. Is the talent someone who has something to say? When Andy Khouri brought me Zoë, I said, “Yes, that’s a great idea.” That’s one of the things we said from the very beginning, “Let’s bring in people who aren’t doing comics but could make great comics.”
One of the amazing things about all these people we reached out to, you start with a pitch of, “Hi, I’m an editor and Vertigo,” and we don’t have to do the full pitch because talent is like, “Yes, stop right there. I’m in.” All of these creators knew DC and Vertigo and was like, “Yes!” That was a really cool response. This was something that came out of conversations with Neil Gaiman and working on Sandman Universe.
One of the observations he had was that it was amazing working with the creators he was working with, the writers and artists both, all these people who grew up reading and adoring his work. I worked on the Batman books, and when you called people to work on Batman, they’d lose their minds. A similar thing happens with Sandman and the Sandman world… that’s a very cool thing to see. You have a whole generation of people who’d rather do a Sandman book and a Vertigo book.
Talk about working with the co-creator of Spider-Gwen Robbi Rodriguez. He seems to know what the readers want before the readers know it.
That’s a great way to frame Robbi. I’ve known Robbi for a long time. I first met him in San Diego about five hundred years ago, and he had a self-published book. This was like 2010. He was looking to do some stuff. I worked with on a Vertigo book I did called F.B.P. We did that book, we hit it off.
As I was developing the new Vertigo books, he reached out to me and said, “Hey, I’m going to be wrapping things up on Spider-Gwen, I’m looking for something else. I feel like a challenge, I want to come home to Vertigo. What have you got?” At the same time this pitch was being developed with Zoë and it seemed like a natural fit. He did a book called Frankie Get Your Gun. It’s funny you say Robbi is ahead of the curve, because this book was Mad Max: Fury Road before Fury Road. He knows what people wants before they want it.
High Level by Rob Sheridan and Barnaby Bagenda
Hundreds of years after the world ended and human society was rebuilt from scratch, a self-interested smuggler with a price on her head is forced to traverse a new continent of danger and mystery to deliver a child messiah to High Level, a mythical city at the top of the world from which no one has ever returned. (2019)
Forgive my ignorance. I’m not familiar with this creative team.
It doesn’t surprise me that you’re not familiar because Rob comes from a different world. Rob comes from the music world. He was the artistic designer with Nine Inch Nails for years. He did concept designs and album designs. Web design was all Rob. He has this interesting aesthetic, but he always loved comics and is an interesting storyteller in his own right. When we reached out to him, he was like, “Yes, I’d love to do a Vertigo book.” Again, that was Andy Khouri coming to me and saying he thought of a person outside what we do but he likes what we do.
Barnaby worked with Andy on a book he first edited when he came to DC called Omega Men with Tom King. If you go back and look at that book, you’ll see what a terrific world Barnaby does with terrific characterization.
Safe Sex by Tina Horn and Mike Dowling
A dystopian sci-fi thriller about a ragtag team of sex workers fighting for the freedom to love in a world where sexual pleasure is monitored, regulated and policed by the government. (2019)
Safe Sex seems like it could be the sleeper hit of the line. Why should this book be on the readers’ radar? And please, tell us about how this book came about.
This book should be on readers’ radars because Tina is a great writer. She is another person that came outside of comics. She has this incredible podcast called Why Are People Into That?
In this case it was editor Amedeo Turturro who came to me and said, “Here’s an interesting person who never did comics.” I said, “Yes, we should reach out to her.” She immediately got it; she immediately got Vertigo and she had this really great, very relevant, very present pitch, but at the end of the day, it’s a story about love. It’s about people who want to love each other despite the world that’s around them. You frame all that in a dystopian heist narrative and I’m like, “Yes, great, I’m in.” But when you work with someone who’s never written anything before, you say let’s try a sample script to see if they do it. And she really nailed it. Early on, you can tell if someone is missing it, but she totally got it in terms of pacing a page and an issue, she got it.
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I agree with you, it could be a sleeper hit. It looks great, too. With comics like this, it comes down to what does it look like. But here, there’s a definite tone to the world. It feels like a superhero book even though it’s not a superhero book.
Second Coming by Mark Russell and Richard Pace
God sends Jesus to Earth in hopes that he will learn the family trade from Sun-Man, an all-powerful superhero, who is like the varsity quarterback son God never had. But, upon his return to Earth, Christ is appalled to discover what has become of his Gospel and vows to set the record right. (2019)
From The Flintstones to Prez to Snagglepuss, Mark Russell is a writer that creates hits in the most unexpected places. Talk about working with Mark and what drew you to Second Coming.
It was a great pitch. A good pitch is when someone pitches you the first line and you can see what the next ten issues will be. Going back to what Vertigo means and what we want to be publish...one of my favorite Vertigo books before I got to Vertigo was Preacher. I always though Vertigo was a place that was not afraid to attack institutions and satirize things. I think that the world needs that. I think you need to hold things up and say, “Look at this people. Should we be doing this?”
The top line of Mark’s pitch was funny, but once you dig into the story and characters, you see he’s incredibly real and honest and just wants to explore what it means to be a good person. He pitched two characters that represent two extremes of the spectrum and that’s where great drama comes from.
Any plans to incorporate classic DCU characters into the new Vertigo like the imprint has done in the past like Joe Lansdale did with Jonah Hex, and others did with Creeper, Haunted Tank, Deadman, hell, even Sandman.
The short answer to that is, that’s when I take off my Vertigo hat and put on my DC Black Label hat. That’s when people come to me and say, “Listen, I have this take on this character in a darker format,” that’s when we talk about Black Label.
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