#Ish becomes Dante's right hand man alongside Faust Yi Sang and Gregor (seperated for regular and clock hands)

[confusedgull]

About Dante and Ishmael...

I genuinely love how Dante and Ishmael seem to be on the same wave length, and they value her opinion alot, as compared to the other sinners. Honestly, I feel like Ishmael and Gregor are the closest to Dante on the bus, with Ishmael been given alot of moments to show how much they trust her judgement and words.

Like back in Canto 2, when they lost the luck to the slot machine with Don, Ishmael's scathing remark had hurt Dante the most. No one else has come close to criticizing Dante so directly ever since (except if you count the insult in the mirror dungeon).

But then in Canto 3 when Dante spoke about mounting their clockhead on a wall after every thing was over(and questions about what exactly Dante was/is and if they're considered a person were brought up) or when Guido asked Dante to step forward as a sacrifice to let the sinners go, Ishmael stepped up to chastise them and show disappointment at the suggestion of Dante being anything less than a person. Even Heathcliff went directly into wanting to deal with Guido but Ishmael turned to Dante first and formost.

Then in Canto 4, Dante agreeing with Ishmael to fight against the drones to save civilians (also smth similar in Canto 3 where Outis wanted to keep charging ahead but Dante heeded Ish's suggestion to fall back) and more notably Ishmael being faster than Outis in going to protect Dante and then them restoring Ishmael even before they could die (unlike what they usually do due to the pain that they endure with raising the Sinners)

All in all, with Canto 5 and Ishmael being in the spotlight, I wonder how much her trust is going to be tested, how will Dante react to honestly one of the most trusting, straightforward Sinner they know questioning them and their actions more than everyone else. Will Dante's answers and judgement be satisfactory to her, and how will Ishmael be by the end of her Canto? Will she be similar to Yi Sang and open up more, accept that she can't completely ever move on from their past and live while throwing it on the back burner of her mind, or will she revert to smth alot more quiet and reserved (not a complete change in personality, just not the same anymore).

Lots of thoughts about Ishmael and Dante's companionship (I won't say friendship but they're close, kinda like Dante and Meursault. It's that trust that runs deep without knowing too much about one another or being too friendly)

[pleasuremostcarnal]

That's part of why I'm looking forward to canto five so much! But also some things to add on to. In the canto 2 scene everythings black giving the sense that the insult was devasting witch for them it was. But.....in the canto 4 scene? Her eyes aren't fully covered in shadow, if you look close enough you can actually see her terror stricken eyes and that's devastating.

The only thing more devastating is how I'm not getting liu Ishmael. :'c

About Dante and Ishmael...

I genuinely love how Dante and Ishmael seem to be on the same wave length, and they value her opinion alot, as compared to the other sinners. Honestly, I feel like Ishmael and Gregor are the closest to Dante on the bus, with Ishmael been given alot of moments to show how much they trust her judgement and words.

Like back in Canto 2, when they lost the luck to the slot machine with Don, Ishmael's scathing remark had hurt Dante the most. No one else has come close to criticizing Dante so directly ever since (except if you count the insult in the mirror dungeon).

But then in Canto 3 when Dante spoke about mounting their clockhead on a wall after every thing was over(and questions about what exactly Dante was/is and if they're considered a person were brought up) or when Guido asked Dante to step forward as a sacrifice to let the sinners go, Ishmael stepped up to chastise them and show disappointment at the suggestion of Dante being anything less than a person. Even Heathcliff went directly into wanting to deal with Guido but Ishmael turned to Dante first and formost.

Then in Canto 4, Dante agreeing with Ishmael to fight against the drones to save civilians (also smth similar in Canto 3 where Outis wanted to keep charging ahead but Dante heeded Ish's suggestion to fall back) and more notably Ishmael being faster than Outis in going to protect Dante and then them restoring Ishmael even before they could die (unlike what they usually do due to the pain that they endure with raising the Sinners)

All in all, with Canto 5 and Ishmael being in the spotlight, I wonder how much her trust is going to be tested, how will Dante react to honestly one of the most trusting, straightforward Sinner they know questioning them and their actions more than everyone else. Will Dante's answers and judgement be satisfactory to her, and how will Ishmael be by the end of her Canto? Will she be similar to Yi Sang and open up more, accept that she can't completely ever move on from their past and live while throwing it on the back burner of her mind, or will she revert to smth alot more quiet and reserved (not a complete change in personality, just not the same anymore).

Lots of thoughts about Ishmael and Dante's companionship (I won't say friendship but they're close, kinda like Dante and Meursault. It's that trust that runs deep without knowing too much about one another or being too friendly)