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saw someone argue that the central defining feature of fanfiction is its attention to proper characterisation. man I don’t think you’ve read very much fanfiction
#I think you end up with these idealistic arguments when you don’t define fanfiction#in relationship to intellectual property law. like that actually is its central defining characteristic & this definition doesn’t make any#claims about quality or content or style (or characterisation) because all of those are variable#so I’m being kind of mean here because I think the op was just trying to describe a relationship between fanfiction and the source material#without grounding it in history or law. so you end up with these silly normative claims about what goes on in fanfiction#anyway not going to link the post I’m referencing because the person was just being mildly annoying on a post of mine#and I was being nosy on their blog. I was just caught way off guard by that argument because like. lol#fandom discussion
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Okay, breaking my principles hiatus again for another fanfic rant despite my profound frustration w/ Tumblr currently:
I have another post and conversation on DW about this, but while pretty much my entire dash has zero patience with the overtly contemptuous Hot Fanfic Takes, I do pretty often see takes on Fanfiction's Limitations As A Form that are phrased more gently and/or academically but which rely on the same assumptions and make the same mistakes.
IMO even the gentlest, and/or most earnest, and/or most eruditely theorized takes on fanfiction as a form still suffer from one basic problem: the formal argument does not work.
I have never once seen a take on fanfiction as a form that could provide a coherent formal definition of what fanfiction is and what it is not (formal as in "related to its form" not as in "proper" or "stuffy"). Every argument I have ever seen on the strengths/weaknesses of fanfiction as a form vs original fiction relies to some extent on this lack of clarity.
Hence the inevitable "what about Shakespeare/Ovid/Wide Sargasso Sea/modern takes on ancient religious narratives/retold fairy tales/adaptation/expanded universes/etc" responses. The assumptions and assertions about fanfiction as a form in these arguments pretty much always should apply to other things based on the defining formal qualities of fanfic in these arguments ("fanfiction is fundamentally X because it re-purposes pre-existing characters and stories rather than inventing new ones" "fanfiction is fundamentally Y because it's often serialized" etc).
Yet the framing of the argument virtually always makes it clear that the generalizations about fanfic are not being applied to Real Literature. Nor can this argument account for original fics produced within a fandom context such as AO3 that are basically indistinguishable from fanfic in every way apart from lacking a canon source.
At the end of the day, I do not think fanfic is "the way it is" because of any fundamental formal qualities—after all, it shares these qualities with vast swaths of other human literature and art over thousands of years that most people would never consider fanfic. My view is that an argument about fanfic based purely on form must also apply to "non-fanfic" works that share the formal qualities brought up in the argument (these arguments never actually apply their theories to anything other than fanfic, though).
Alternately, the formal argument could provide a definition of fanfic (a formal one, not one based on judgment of merit or morality) that excludes these other kinds of works and genres. In that case, the argument would actually apply only to fanfic (as defined). But I have never seen this happen, either.
So ultimately, I think the whole formal argument about fanfic is unsalvageably flawed in practice.
Realistically, fanfiction is not the way it is because of something fundamentally derived from writing characters/settings etc you didn't originate (or serialization as some new-fangled form, lmao). Fanfiction as a category is an intrinsically modern concept resulting largely from similarly modern concepts of intellectual property and auteurship (legally and culturally) that have been so extremely normalized in many English-language media spaces (at the least) that many people do not realize these concepts are context-dependent and not universal truths.
Fanfic does not look like it does (or exist as a discrete category at all) without specifically modern legal practices (and assumptions about law that may or may not be true, like with many authorial & corporate attempts to use the possibility of legal threats to dictate terms of engagement w/ media to fandom, the Marion Zimmer Bradley myth, etc).
Fanfic does not look like it does without the broader fandom cultures and trends around it. It does not look like it does without the massive popularity of various romance genres and some very popular SF/F. It does not look like it does without any number of other social and cultural forces that are also extremely modern in the grand scheme of things.
The formal argument is just so completely ahistorical and obliviously presentist in its assumptions about art and generally incoherent that, sure, it's nicer when people present it politely, but it's still wrong.
#this is probably my most pretentious fanfiction defense squad post but it's difficult to express in other terms#like. people talking about ao3 house style (not always by name but clearly referring to it) as a result of fanfic as a form#and not the social/cultural effect of ao3 as a fandom space#you don't get ao3 house style without ao3 itself and you don't get ao3 without strikethrough and livejournal etc#and you don't get those without authors and corporations trying to exercise control over fic based on law (often us law) & myths about law#and you don't get those without distinctly modern concepts of intellectual property and copyright#none of those things have fuck all to do with form!#anghraine rants#fanfiction#general fanwank#long post#thinking about this partly because the softer & gentler versions of fanfic discourse keep crossing my dash#and partly because i've written like 30 pages about a playwright i adore who was just not very good at 'original fiction' as we'd define it#both his major works are ... glorified rpf in our context but splendid tragedies in his#and the idea of categorizing /anything/ in that era by originality of conception rather than comedy/tragedy/etc would be buckwild#ivory tower blogging#anghraine's meta
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#scene#2000s blog#2000s emo#emo scene#rawr xd#scenemo#emo#emo blog#neon pop punk#scene blog#pop punk posting#music poll#fave album#waterparks#double dare#entertainment#fandom#greatest hits#intellectual property#fueled by ramen
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I don't know if it's supposed to feel like daytime or nighttime or anything, but you know what? (x)
#when we were young fest#when we were young#intellectual property#waterparks#awsten knight#parx#awsten#we love videos filmed on potatoes#i just wanted this one on my blog <3#m#nh
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I'm still here btw
I stayed here
#parx#awsten knight#waterparks#parxie#parxies#parxboys#red hair awsten#black hair awsten#intellectual property#parx blog
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Waterparks Songs/Lyric inspired blinkies
Notably inspired by the visuals during the Intellectual Property tour in April 2023. from top to bottom: ST*RFUCKER, TURBULENT, and [REBOOT]. UPDATE 5/29/24: We fixed the way "soulsucker" was formatted to match the new release! PLEASE REBLOG THIS VERSION.
f2u on your neocities, tumblr, or where ever! credit is not required, but greatly appreciated/encouraged. reblog if you use please!
#waterparks#waterparks band#parx#awsten knight#otto wood#geoff wigington#old web#neocities#music#waterparks fandom#waterparks intellectual property#waterparks fanart#awsten waterparks#waterparks lyrics#waterparks st*rfucker#st*rfucker#waterparks turbulent#waterparks [reboot]#pre blog blinkies#queue#flashing lights cw#flashing gifs cw#eye strain cw#blinkies#kttsublinkies
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soooooo shaped arghhhhhh
#art#traditional art#art blog#fanart#waterparksband#sketchbook#sketch page#doodle#soulsucker#st*rfucker#waterparks#parx fanart#awsten knight#intellectual property#sneaking out of heaven#dog
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SOULSUCKER // ST*RFUCKER
☆ Names + Pronouns ☆
Based on the characters of course, however some are simply based the album Intellectual Property.
Names -
Star, Soul, Angel, Lucifer, Nephilim, Faith, Seraphim, Ritual, Grey / Gray, Spirit, Virtue, Melatonin, Nyx, Aura, Crimson, Lilith, Lucian, Blaze, Rose, Halo
Pronouns -
star/stars, st*r/st*rs, soul/souls, cross/crosses, halo/halos, ven/heavens, vir/virtues, pray/prayers, angel/angels, demon/demons, wor/worships, dark/darks, night/nights, fall/fallen,
☆ / * / +
❤️/💚/🖤/❤️🔥
🪽/⭐️/🌟/🌓
✨️/🩸/💫/🫀
🔴/🟢/🟥/🟩
⚫️/⬛/🚫/❗️
#neopronouns#names#pronouns#coining blog#anti endogenic#anti endo#name suggestions#name searching#pronoun help#pronoun suggestions#neoprns#neopronoun suggestions#aemogai#anti endo mogai#mogai coining#mogai community#anti endo coining#waterparks#parx#parxies#parxboys#st*rfucker#soulsucker#intellectual property#ip2#awsten knight#awsten waterparks#aws.txt
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you literally cannot steal ideas in a way that matters, especially in a fucking fandom. Fanfiction and even fanart is """"stealing"""" somebody's ideas and going "what if i did it like this?" It is by its nature transgressive with ideas. If disney uses your ideas and makes money, then sure, get mad, thats righteous, but if some rando uses your idea and doesnt credit you? Enjoy having your idea out there for free with practically zero effort on your part.
#that sadsack prt blog post has been rattling around in my head for a week annoying me#'what if taylor was a cat and vicky adopted her?' (original idea pls dont stale)#you mean like in my catgirl taylor fic where vicky adopts/dates her???#you cant own ideas#intellectual property is a scam that benefits companies not people#stop buying into it#just make your fucking art. enjoy art made by others. jfc stop getting butthurt about shit that is literally meant to be fun#i dont credit 99% of the ideas i grab and use.#and i promise you no one else does#bc all art is derivative and if you credited every artist who you got ideas from#your story would be nothing more than an endless list of names
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i have been stressed and thusly only able to pay attention to stupid shit so if my blog gets stupid shit on it please ignore and pretend im still really cool. thank you i love you. unless you didnt think i was really cool then i am neutral towards you, tit for tat.
#appearance on my blog is NOT my endorsement of it as an intellectual property. i can fall victims to being stupids#all my official endorsements are sent off in a mass email every business quarter#i try and keep it to myself but if someone makes a cool fanart of it ill hit reblog#i enjoyed when i reblogged disco elysium fan arts and then played the game and discovered all the cool drawings i reblogged were fanarts#thats always fun#it did make me live in fear of reblogging fanart of something stupid on accident and ruining my image (this is a joke)
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thinking about that post where that anon says they report people for copyright infringement when they watermark their gifs... i think most people dont actually know what copyright infringement is bc making gifs and posting them on tumblr is not even close to that ❤️
#'copyright infringement is when you edit something and post it on your blog and claim the edit as your own' no dumbass#its when you take an intellectual property and try to post and share it with no modifications and claim it is 100% yours#or directly stealing ideas / writing / music / etc from things#its also when you dont pay for the rights to use something. some places allow you to use their stuff without credit as long as you pay#like its a huge range of things and creators making gifs and watermarking their work is NOT copyright infringement youre so stupid 😭#personal#like its the same thing as like commentary youtube videos. youre building off of the source material. its protected under fair use.....#anyways if all gifmakers got copyright claimed on here tumblr would literally die theyre not going to do anything about it lol
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Doing my best to appear like a functioning human being😅
(bg 🎵: 'FUCK ABOUT IT (feat. blackbear)' by Waterparks)
#today is day 1 of 7 in a row at work#and my next day off is also the 4 year anniversary of my mom being killed by a drunk driver#so im doing 🙃#but i got pretend im doing 😊#im fuckin exhausted dude and its not even the beginning#weed#it me#high blogging#waterparks#blackbear#fuck about it#intellectual property#cannabis community
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it’s very weird being a swiftie who LOVES Taylor’s re-recording projects while also being a PhD student publishing papers because it’s like why am I signing away my intellectual brainchild to a damn publisher for nothing except a line on my CV 😭
#I’m not sure if this is how copyright and IP works#gradblr#grad blogging#phdblr#intellectual property#swifties#swiftie#taylor swift taylor's version#taylor swift#text post#elsevier#phd life#grad school#phd#re recordings
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some parx blogs on here r so negative and foul like bro why are you even interacting w parx media if ur just gonna constantly shit on em,,,,make it make sense
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I got this comment on a story from my Other AO3 Account this morning.
(Info redacted because I prefer keeping these accounts separate but no one follows me on the side blog I have for that account.)
The story was posted almost a year ago and is relatively “popular” by my average statistics even though it has tropes and themes that are big turnoffs for a lot of people (hence separate accounts). This popularity is undoubtedly because it’s a Marvel Loki story and that fandom is massive.
So there is obviously an algorithm or a bot scrubbing ao3 statistics and leaving this comment on fics that meet a certain metric with the main character of the fic inserted into the comment.
I had a little time to kill this morning so I decided to investigate further. And y’all this is so predatory. Come on this journey with me. It made me mad. It may make you mad.
First, if you go to Webnovel’s website, you HAVE to choose between male lead or female lead stories before you can go any further. WTF?
And that’s weird, but this gets so much worse. This is basically a pay-to-read site that has different subscription models. Which… okay BUT! The authors don’t get paid! Look at that comment again. They’re promising a supportive and nurturing community, but zero monetary compensation. It’s basically, “post your stuff here so we can get paid and you can get… nice vibes?” I mean look at this Orwellian writing:
Using the phrase “pay-to-read model” in the same sentence as “qualitative changes in lifestyles for authors” deliberately makes you think that you can get paid and maybe even make a living on this website. But that’s not actually what it says and authors will not receive one red cent.
Oh but wait, the worst is still to come. In case this breaks containment (which I kind of hope it does) this is where I mention that I’m a lawyer in the US.
I don’t do intellectual property or copyright law but I do read and write contracts for a living. So I went to look at their terms of service. It was fun!
Highlights the first, in which Webnovel gets a license to do basically whatever they want with content you post on their site. This is how they get to be paid for people reading authors’ writing without paying them anything.
Highlights the second, in which Webnovel takes no responsibility for illegally profiting off of fan fic. This all says that the writer is 100% responsible for everything the writer posts (even though only Webnovel is making money from it).
Highlights the third which say that by posting, the author is representing that they have the legal right to use and to let Webnovel use the content according to these terms. So if a writer posts fan fiction and Webnovel makes money from people reading the fan fiction, and the House of the Mouse catches wise, these sections say that that’s ALL on the writer.
So that’s a little skeevy to start off with but the thing that is seriously shitty and made me make this post was that these assholes are coming to ao3. They are actively recruiting people in comments on their fan fiction. And they are saying they are big fans of the character you’re writing about and that they share your interests.
They are recruiting fan fiction writers and giving every impression that you can make money from posting fan fiction on their site and hiding the fact that you absolutely cannot but they can make money off of you while you try, deep in their terms of service which no one but a lawyer who writes fan fic and has some time to kill will read.
I see posts on here regularly from people who don’t understand how this stuff works, don’t understand that they (and others) can not legally make a financial profit from fan fiction. And there are tons of people who will not take the time to dig into the details.
Don’t deal with these bastards. Fuck Webnovel.
#went down a rabbit hole#got mad#webnovel#this is a scam#how to ao3#fan fiction#please spread the word#long post#50k
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MY IP2 MERCH FINALLY SHIPPED.
#IM EXCITED.#waterparks#waterparks band#parxboys#parxies#parxie#parx#intellectual property#parx blog#awsten knight#ip2#waterparks intellectual property#waterparks ip2#intellectual property 2#ip2 parx
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