#Instead apparently the only way to cure eugenics is to have a societal shift to heavily discourage abortions for certain reasons
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Anyway, I'm bringing this back because there's a whole ass post going around about how to tackle the "eugenics abortion" issue that actually doesn't mention the well-being of these disabled children except as a throw away.
We must do away with the nuclear family and we must fundamentally change the societal view of having and raising children in order to come away from "eugenics abortion".
Changing or adjusting what society considers to be the "value" of a disabled child to make it higher and therefore more acceptable to have a disabled child 1) isn't actually about the child and 2) isn't addressing the fundamental issue that children are whole ass human beings and not couches.
Eugenics is explicitly tied to the view of children as "things" that someone owns and controls, and until we do away with that idea, we can never be truly free of eugenics.
And that sucks, but there are a lot of people who claim to be anti eugenics who still very rigidly hold on to the idea of the nuclear family and the "right" to have a child, and that is not and never will be an anti-eugenics opinion, nor will it ever lead to any better conditions for disabled children.
#Can you tell I hate that phrasing#Like it's sooooo interesting how much people who claim to be disability activists center forced/encouraged abortions#To the point where they have to clarify that it's not that they think that people shiuld be ~banned~ from having abortions#Instead apparently the only way to cure eugenics is to have a societal shift to heavily discourage abortions for certain reasons#Like yeah this is where the anti abortion movement started#Then they moved to doctors because that got more play#“We need to give parents more support so they don't feel they need to get abortions”#Do you not hear yourself?#Anyway this is also what I mean when I say that for most people they are incapable of being pro abortion in any way that matterd#Because it takes one “icky” thing or reason for people who claim to be leftists to turn on abortion#To be clear sex selection is even more in this camp which is why people don't talk about it as much except as an extension of misogyny#It's because daughters as things have less value sometimes than sons as things#But people agree with the idea that children are things so their arguments - like here - are about reframing value#And that's just not real#I would say there isn't this kind of “discourse” with other medical procedures#But you know what I was FIGHTING for wisdom teeth removal on Reddit once#Who determines when to pursue preventative medicine and when a procedure becomes necessary#AND WHY ISN'T IT YOU???????
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