#In my mind I equated it to like whump and hurt/comfort but the characters are aware and in control yknow
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rozugold · 7 months ago
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BTW rozu I'm still laughing at your "I learned some things" tag because now I can tag this whole AU's series with something akin to "Kinky Edutainment" and well! It wouldn't be wrong!!
HEHE it just made me more immersed. I was in the same boat as Tommy like “alrighty what’s all this then?”
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aceofwhump · 1 year ago
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Hi!
I have a question for you about the whump community, which you may admittedly be ill-equipped to answer, but I hope you can at least point me in the right direction for answers.
But in general, is loving characters being whumped a sexual thing? Sort of like bdsm, but they're fictional characters so it's okay that they're "actually hurt"? Or is something else the attraction? Im especially curious/confused since this doesn't seem to be hurt/comfort since the focus mostly seems to be on the hurt itself.
No judgement at all btw... I hope this isn't coming off as judgemental. And no judgement regardless of how you answer, but I've seen this kind of community a lot over the years and I truly am just very very curious.
Thanks! And have a great day!
Hiya! Thank you for asking so nicely. I'd be happy to answer your questions. I know this community looks strange and confusing from the outside but I promise we're all really nice and open minded people. So let me see if I can give you some answers!
So the whump community is made of up of people who enjoy the genre of fiction called whump in which characters goes through painful situations or experience pain either physically, emotionally, or mentally.
For some people yes it is a sexual thing. It is not that way for me so I can really speak about it but some people definitely enjoy whump in a sexual way. Nothing wrong with that. Then there's people like me who don't equate whump and sexual feelings at all. A great many if us (myself included) are asexual. There's actually a LOT of different reasons why we all like whump. I actually made a big post about this at some point. Let me just link that here. I highly suggest giving it a read as I go into the many many reasons why someone might enjoy whump. This article is also really good as you've got opinions and perspectives from a lot of different people in the community. And here's the link to my tag full of posts talking about why we like whump.
In my opinion (and this does vary within the community) things like hurt/comfort and angst are under the umbrella term of whump. Because whump can be just angst. It can include comfort but it doesn't have to. Personally I consider hurt/comfort really just another term for whump. Some people see them as two separate things. Some see whump as strictly just hurt and a lot of it with no comfort and h/c is the softer hurt followed by comfort and angst is just emotional hurt. I've always viewed whump as the umbrella term and h/c and angst are just subgenres of it. But we all differ a little on the definitions and that's fine. Basically, I say if you consider it whump, then its whump.
So yeah! It's a very diverse group with all kinds of reasons why we like this genre of fiction. I hope I was able to answer your question! If you have anymore just let me know :)
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phantomchick · 4 years ago
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Naruto Fic Rec Masterpost!
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The Last To Know by KuriQuinn Oneshot, Gen, Teen and Up, Team Seven, Sakura and Sasuke, Sakura and Team 7, Canon Compliant, Angst with a Happy Ending, trust, broken trust, forgiveness, hurt/comfort, this fic is fantastic and made me have so many feels for the characters as well as the bonds between them, Character Dynamics,
Summary: As usual, telling her the truth happens as though by afterthought. And this time, she's not taking it.
i'll always be there for you by RecklessWriter Oneshot, Gen, Itachi and Sasuke feels, sibling feels, Light Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Hypothermia, Uchiha Sasuke Needs a Hug, Big Brother Uchiha Itachi, a part of me niggles over team 7 failing a mission but I pretend that they ran into the hunter nin afterwards and Kakashi got the scroll back, it do be like that sometimes, Good big brother Itachi, Bad big brother Itachi, it’s complicated, Feels,
Summary:
He’s pressed against something warm. There are fingers carding gently through his hair, scratching lightly at his scalp.
“Nii-san,” Sasuke whispers.
The hand in his hair freezes.
Sasuke gets thrown into a frozen lake. Itachi doesn't know how to stop being a big brother, even when he's supposed to be pretending he doesn't care.
The Beautiful Orange Thing by zafiro Oneshot, Gen, Naruto and Kurama, Naruto is a very lonely kid and the kyubi is a very lonely bijuu, Pre-Naruto Canon Era, chibi-Naruto, Naruto loves Orange, Kurama tolerates Naruto because he is Cute, sweetness and light, angst and fluff, so cute I wanna physically hug this fic to my chest
Summary: Naruto arrives at a weird place and finds something wonderful there.
Maslow by FriendshipCastle Oneshot, Gen, T for cursing, canonical child neglect, Iruka feels, Naruto feels, implied/referenced child abuse, but nothing worse than what’s in canon, angst, hurt/comfort,
Summary: The first four tiers of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Human Needs applied to Naruto’s depressing childhood. Alternatively: Iruka slowly becomes the best replacement mother a ninja could have.
take the fight from the kid by theformerone Oneshot, Gen, Team Bonding, Team as Family, Team 7, Canon Compliant, but can be read as divergent, Post Wave arc, Pre-Chuunin Exams,  
Summary: Training with his team is different than it was before the mission to Wave. Sasuke notices how things have changed.
A Clean Break by GwendolynStacy Oneshot, Gen, Teen and Up,  Hatake Kakashi and Team 7, Team as Family, Angst, Fluff, Hurt/Comfort, Team Fluff, Kakashi feels, Self-Harm via compulsive hand washing, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Happy Ending,
Summary: Every member of Team 7 has their personal set of demons to haunt them. While Kakashi is always prepared to lend his students a listening ear, he still hasn’t quite figured out how to ask for help when he’s the one crumbling.
The Beginning and the End by QuinsValoria Oneshot, short oneshot, gen, THIS HAD ME SOBBING OVER KUSHINA AGAIN EVEN THOUGH IT’S SO SHORT, pre-canon era, angst, Dont worry kushina, Your baby makes it out just fine, cries into laptop screen, Hurt/Comfort,
Summary:
“Motherhood: All love begins and ends there.” —Robert Browning
Uzumaki Kushina is an amazing mother, even in the very short time she has left.
OR
Kushina comforts her baby.
The Prince Of Leaves And Deep Water by RayShippouUchiha Ongoing, 3 chapter fic, do you ever read a fic with language that is so pretty and evocative that you just want to lean into it, like a kid listening to a piece of folklore that’s been passed down, it’s just beautiful to read? And the words slice and cut into your feelings in the best of ways, angst, hurt/comfort, drama, Kushina feels, Angst with a Happy Ending, Uzumaki Lore, well worth the read even as a stand alone should it never update again, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Canonical Child Neglect, Uzushio feels,
Summary: ‘Protect him,’ Kushina prays in the quiet of her own mind as she leaves; pleading silently to the old spirits from her childhood, to the things that the Uzumaki Elders used to whisper about in hushed tones.
‘Love him,’ Kushina begs of the things she only knows from instinct and half remembered stories, those things filled with the power of salt and sun and deep deep waters.  Those things that live and thrive in the heart and soul of every Uzumaki who has ever breathed and battled and bled.  'Guide him, keep him safe for always.  But love him most of all. My little prince of eddies and leaves.’
Left behind, left alone and cold where before there was only a soft sort of warmth and a steady kind of safety, Naruto wails.
Final Evaluation by Do_the_Cool_Whip Completed, 5 Chapter Fic, Gen, Umino Iruka & The Rookie Nine, Iruka-Sensei, Feels, fluffy, I have so many emotions about Iruka being the best teacher in the elemental nations and this fic brought them all out to play, Excellence, Kakashi is a troll, a huge troll, like, he’s such a troll he’s a mountain troll, Asuma is a lesser troll, like he’s mostly decent but still infuriating so he’s a bridge troll, Kurenai is so cool that even when she’s trolling as is her right and duty as the jounin elite she is, the person she’s trolling still respects her for it, a river troll, the kids are so cute and young here, you can really feel Iruka’s affection for them, please revel in the wonderful that is this entire fic, revel I say
Summary: Progress evaluations are one-on-one consultation meetings between academy students and their teacher. Their purpose is to inform academy students of their strengths and weaknesses and guide them down their ideal path to becoming a strong shinobi. Upon graduating the academy and passing their jounin-sensei test, new genin return to the academy for one final consultation. (Or: The story of what happens when Umino Iruka uses his final meetings with his students as way to send them off to become the best shinobi they can possibly be.)
it takes a village by quillofferings Oneshot, Gen, snapshot series, angst, character insight, konoha 12, rookie 9, team Gai, team 10, team 8, team 7, repeating patterns and revelations, kinda gives a sense of the culture of a childhood in Konoha in a way that’s very quietly tragic, this story was written well before shippuden came out but it still reads mostly true to me, A Classic of the Fandom,
Summary: A Naruto snapshot series in the form of a oneshot.
spirals by nescione Gen, Oneshot, Team Seven, Generations, Team 7, Dai Nana Han, Spirals, Repeating Patterns, things happening the same across generations in repeating patterns is a big theme in the canon and lots of fic delve into it and play with the whole idea as a result, but this fic does it especially well, Team as Family, Angst, Fluff, Angst with a Hopeful Ending, A Classic of the Fandom, Summary: From the sannin to the present- a look at how history repeats itself, and how it doesn't.
this, and love too, will ruin us by RecklessWriter Oneshot, Gen, Itachi and Sasuke feels, Naruto Feels, Short and Sweet, Angst, Whump, Brother Feels, Sibling feels, Uchiha Sasuke Needs a Hug, Naruto Uzumaki Needs a Hug,
Summary: Naruto remembers the first time he saw Sasuke and Itachi.
He remembers looking at them and thinking, I wish I had someone who loved me like that.
Ten Facts About Team Yamato by Lisse Oneshot, Gen, short and sweet, Team 7 feels, Team as Family, Dai Nana Han, Team Seven, Team Yamato, characterisation, short but solid, Ficlet,
Summary: On paper, their team doesn't exist.
Troubling New Developments by SicTransitGloria Oneshot, Teen and Up, hilarious, pre-shippuden, Team as Family, Kakashi pov, Team 7, AHAHAHAHA,  Puberty hits the genin,
Summary: Kakashi takes a moment to wrap his mind around equating Ino’s chest with enemy shinobi while Asuma begins beating his head against the table and groaning about how he didn’t sign up for this. Rated for language and the general horror that is puberty
Of Harrowed Hearts by Sable_Scribe Ongoing and possibly (probably) Abandoned, Gen, Long Fic, we’re at 36 chapters in as of the time I’m posting this, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Fix It, Families of Choice, Team Seven, Team as Family, Bamf Kakashi, Good Teacher! Kakashi, Angst, Uzushio Lore, Fluff, Uzushio Feels, Uzumaki heritage, Bamf Team 7, BAMF Rookie Nine, Naruto's ability to make friends with giant chakra demons surfaces early, Rookie Nine, Rookie 9, Konoha 12, Naruto and Kurama,
Summary Naruto has been hearing the rumbling growl in the back of his head for as long as he can remember. He’s seven when he tries to talk to it for the first time. He’s the dead last, the failure at everything, so he doesn’t actually expect to succeed. And when he’s suddenly standing, knee deep in murky water and face to face with a demon, he has no idea what to expect. As it turns out, the world could use something unexpected.
Automatic by Dayadhvam Oneshot, Gen, Sand Siblings, Fluff, Team as Family, but also, Family as Family, Short and Sweet, A Classic of The Fandom
Summary: Gaara's shield defense is automatic: he has never had to consciously think about ordering the sand where it is needed. Kankurou and Temari have always known this.
As Is the Sea Marvelous by blackkat Mature, Gen, Eleven Chapter Fic, Warring States Era, Uchiha Madara/Senju Tobirama, Izuna Lives AU, everybody lives nobody dies, Hurt/Comfort, brotherly feels, sibling relationships, Angst With A Happy Ending, Insecurity, Self-Sacrifice, Imprisonment, Fix-It
Summary: Tobirama is willing to give absolutely anything for Hashirama and his dream. Including his life.
A Lesson In Trust by Live Gen, Oneshot, Shikamaru & Naruto friendship, academy days, trust exercise, fluff
Summary: All Iruka wants is for his class to start trusting each other, too bad Shikamaru would rather watch the clouds...
Snow Is Serious Business When Your Business Is Being A Kid by vulcanhighblood Gen, Oneshot, Iruka and Naruto, Umino Iruka is a Good Teacher, Uzumaki Naruto Needs a Hug, Fluff, Snow
Summary: Iruka's trying to teach his class, but the first snowfall of the year makes keeping their attention more difficult than he would have liked.
The Consequences of Winning by tabjoy13 Oneshot, Gen, Team 7, Protective Hatake Kakashi, Hatake Kakashi is a Good Teacher, Team Bonding, Team Dynamics, Team Feels, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Hurt/Comfort, Hurt Hatake Kakashi, Hatake Kakashi Is Trying, Wave Mission
Summary: Three days. It had been three days since Zabuza’s attack, since Kakashi passed out, and since Team Seven took refuge in the bridge builder’s home. Three days and Kakashi hadn’t shown a sign of stirring. Three young genin are left with the question: now what? Cross posted on FF.net.
discendo docemus by llamallamaduck Mature, Ongoing, Angst and Hurt/Comfort, Trauma/Ptsd, Uchiha Sasuke-centric, Good Orochimaru, A lot of talk about depression and mental instability, Also Sharingan fuckery and assorted eye-trauma, rarepair, Itachi & Sasuke, eventual Sasuke/Ukitake, Itachi & Tsunade, 
Summary: There are some things a seven-year-old psyche is not ready to endure. An S-ranked torture technique preformed by a traumatized thirteen-year-old is one of those things. Sasuke doesn’t enjoy hallucinating memories of his murdered family day in and day out, but he’s learned to be philosophical about such things. It’s everything else that’s the problem, really.
Nidaime Otokage by DuskBeforeDawn Ongoing, inspired by nukenin, Time Travel, Dimension Travel, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Protective Hatake Kakashi, BAMF Hatake Kakashi, BAMF Dai-nana-han,Team 7, Team as Family, Non-Konoha Shinobi Kakashi, Hatake Kakashi is a Troll, Kage level Kakashi, Hatake Kakashi-centric, fluff, adventure, crack, mature, fun read
Summary: No one knew him.His father was still alive.His Sharingan acted like it had always been his.Kakashi was twenty-two years in the past of a different world.
French Kissing, the End of the World, and Other Impossible Ordeals by Tsume_Yuki Uchiha Sasuke/Uzumaki Naruto, Female Uzumaki Naruto, Time Travel, Uchiha Sasuke Being an Asshole, Protective Uchiha Sasuke, BAMF Uzumaki Naruto, Time Travel Fix-It, Smitten Uchiha Sasuke, grumpy asshole/cheerful optimist, this fic is literally just Sasuke being soft for Naruto, Mature but like it’s fiiine the author could’ve left it at teen and up and it would’ve gotten a pass at least from me
Summary: This is it, centuries of excellent genetics, of carefully selected marriages to maximise the potential of future generations and it’s going to be Sasuke who introduces idiocy to the Uchiha bloodline. The ancestors must be rolling in their graves. In which Sasuke is smitten, Naruto is a badass, and time travel happens.
No Tomorrow by Authorship Uchiha Shisui, Uchiha Clan, Shisui Lives, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Longfic, Completed, Found Family, Fix It, Mature, Time Travel, Fuck Danzo
Summary: The water was crushing, pummelling Shisui's broken form, even as it swept him further and further from Konoha. 
And then Shisui woke up.
It's two months until the day he died. Two months to change the current of his life, of his Clan, of his village. And Shisui has no intention of letting history run its course.
¦ part 1 ¦ part 2 ¦ part 3 ¦
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lurafita · 5 years ago
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Hi! Knowing you occasionally take prompts, I just wanted to ask. Do you have any hard no's? Or simply things you don't like writing about?
Got a few prompts in my inbox I really need to take care of (and I think two that are a little older that I haven’t written anything for, yet). So in case you wanted to follow up this question with a prompt, just know that it will likely take me a while to get to.
But now to answer your questions: (Please keep in mind that these are highly biased opinions, and not meant to bash on any of your likes or dislikes. I certainly don’t expect anyone else to feel the same way as I do about these things, and would never hate on anyone for liking something I don’t)
Hard no’s for me would be stories focusing on:
- Degradation, - Humiliation, - Torture (be it physical, emotional, mental, or psychological. I can do manipulation and coercion, but I don’t like full on torture). - Pain-play, - Age-play (be it sexual or not, I’m not comfortable with it) - Gaslighting. (Though sometimes emotional manipulation comes close to gaslighting, I like to think of the manipulating tactics characters in my stories might make use of as more of a ‘reward system’, and gaslighting is more of punishment and abuse, if that makes sense?)- Reader-insert (just no. I don’t like feeling like ‘I’ have been put into a story and that ‘I’ am doing these things and saying these things and feeling these things someone else wrote. It creeps me out, to be perfectly honest)- Cheating. (If done by the main pairing. Like if Person A is married, but fucks person b behind their spouses back.)
- Watersports (Or piss-play, as it is also called)
- Having a character under the age of 16 in a sexual relationship (I know kids get up to lots of stuff while they are even younger, age of consent in my country is 14 - if both teens are of a similar age - but I am not interested in reading or writing about such.
Things I’m not crazy about, but could work with (though would likely change around a lot), are:
- Feminization (I just can’t think of Peter as someone who squeals and claps his hands in joy about being gifted a bottle of hot pink nail polish, because it’s so pretty and sparkly and it’s from some super expensive brand. But I could see him preferring feminine things because he feels comfortable in them and gets a sense of confidence from it.)- Spanking (I can’t help but think of it as degrading, if used in a way to ‘punish bad behavior’, in a relationship. To be honest I don’t like it as a disciplinary measure for children either. So I would only use it in a playful, lighthearted manner, if I managed to portray it like that)- Whump. (I can definitely appreciate some hurt/comfort themes, but I enjoy reading and writing about the ‘comfort’ part of the equation far more than I do the ‘hurt’ part. I don’t want to read or write pages upon pages of putting beloved characters through the ringer, only to finally get some little comfort at the end.)- Original Characters. (I read and write fanfictions about the characters I already know and love. If an OC comes along and steals the spotlight of the character I’m interested in, ergo if the original character is placed in a main character position, I’m out. However, sometimes a story simply needs someone to fill a role that pre-existing characters can’t fill. So if an original character is introduced in a supportive role, (or as a new villain or antagonist or something), that’s completely fine with me.- Secret Relationship. (I don’t like the unnecessary drama that comes with hiding your relationship from the world, for whatever reason. I want to imagine my favorite characters to be strong enough to stand behind their believes and feelings. I want them to be proud and happy with their relationship, so why would they hide it? However, if my two shipped characters want to keep their relationship on the down low for a while, (because they want to have this to themselves for a bit, or because it’s kind of a game to them), that I could do.
Okay, I think that’s mostly it.
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