#IT WAS DURING A CUTSCENE FOR ONE OF THE ENDINGS SO IMAGINE MY TERROR WHEN MY ROOM JUST GOES ENTRLEY SILENT AND DARK IN THE MIDDLE OF IT

[the-v01d-sys]

MY POWER JUST CUT OUT WHILE PLAYING NEEDY STREAMER OVERLOAD AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I GOT SCARED ABSOLUTELY SHITLESS.

WHAT THE FUCK KANGEL.

- lunar

[derelicthorror]

reblog compendium

[or, this is one of my favorite posts because of the discussion in the notes; under the cut, some choice pickings in alphabetical order]

#thinking about the connection between tenno and warframe #it is love

- @alteredsilicone

"If you hold your own hand, will you hold it back?

"i feel like the more used the Warframe are (as in how much time the operator spends in them) the more likely they are to do it, or not do it. Because i see it as Evangelion like, they have sync rates. If your sync rate is big enough with your Warframe, they'll hold your hand without even being asked that from you.

"My take from The Sacrifice is that you're both different but same entities, which is why your frame and your operator overlap, so your frame is both you and themselves.

"So,

"If you held your hand, would you hold it back?

"There's your answer."

- @astroflowershop

#my brain says ??? but my heart says yes #and this time I’m listening to the latter entirely

- @autistictenno

#our frames did move of their own will during second dream #after shadow stalker stabbed them and attempts to kill the tenno #at least the cutscene always made it seem like the tenno was as surprised as stalker that the warframe was moving. #which i took as movement of own free will #i dont care what the irl answer is. in my heart the answer is yes <3

- @biaether

#this is canon now‚ TO ME #whether it is the Tenno wirelessly projecting their desires to the Warframe and them responding instinctively #or the Warframe is receiving vague commands wirelessly in the form of emotion (TERROR‚ HELP/FEAR‚ GRAB) #it all still implies that the Warframes CAN respond to their Tenno even outside of Transference‚ if only just‚ without direct command

#All of this makes sense if you remember that the original Warframes were people like Umbra who were autonomous super-soldiers #until they went mad due to the infestation and had to be put on ice until the Tenno came around and managed to link with them #and through their symbiotic connection‚ they managed to calm the Warframes and then take control of them.

#In the end‚ Margulis' Transference Therapy helped someone. It was bastardized and we were put into The Second Dream #But through that‚ we helped the ravaged minds of the Warframes #Our current Warframes are duplicates of those original Warframes (unless Ballas stopped using ppl but we have no indication of that) #Which seems to mean that their original sentience has been lost #And that the Warframes now truly are just ''infested puppets dangling on Tenno strings'' but if they ARE duplicates or even replicants

#Then there should be some semblance of sentience buried within. After all‚ they have a brain and aren't braindead. #It's just that nearly all of their time is spent with US occupying their mind and intercepting any possibility command they could make #And the first time we aren't‚ we see our Warframe move to save us

#It really makes you think

#Related note: It is implied that Kuva allows for continuity by causing Permanent Transference into your host (victim) #And that what the Twin Queen was doing was trying to root out/supress/destroy our presence in our mind so she could fill it with herself #You can't add more water to a full cup‚ but if you empty that cup first? Then you can refill it with something else (metaphor) #Red Kuva allows this to be permanent. Blue Kuva allows for temporary Transference/Continuity.

#Given that this is basically how Continuity works‚ I imagine that the Tenno's presence in their Warframes is what suppresses sentience #And that the first time we are disconnected‚ a glimmer of sentience emerged & acted on an ''unspoken command''/to our distressed state #due to how deeply we're linked‚ even when we are aren't connected #similar to how Umbra is completely under our command and cannot override our actions until we leave at which point he is in control #that Transference Bolt in the base of his cervical spine seemingly stops his mind from controlling his body when it is in use

#Which is how Ballas commanded him. He would use his Void Magic #to trigger the bolt. Even with a Tenno at the helm‚ Ballas was STILL able to override all movement by stopping the mind's commands #since the bolt is at C6 or higher‚ meaning no signal can pass from the brain through it (in the neck) then to the body if he says ''no'' #Which is why we couldn't make Umbra move WITHOUT transferring out and physically grabbing his arm and pushing it forward #Because even in Transference‚ our commands need to pass through the spinal cord/Central Nervous System (Warframe Systems)

- @cephalongalias

"I think possibly they could, either by the tenno's thoughts or by the spark of the person the frame was made from coming out for the tenno."

- @keyenuta

#love is stored in the warframe#we love our warframes and take away their pain #and so in turn our warframes love us and take our pain away too

- @virmink-united

"The Warframe didn't attack stalker in the second dream until you had shown obvious fear of the stalker, and only REALLY got active in new war to help you save space mom (An emotionally charged moment of desperate grabbing to the only remaining parental figure left outside of maybe Ordis). This leads me to believe that Warframes are the most responsive to their Tenno's emotional state. They would absolutely hold your hand at any point because they'd know you would want it. They would hold you when you want to be held, they would let go when you feel satisfied. They are basically the partner that knows exactly what you want when you want it. They would respond to what matters to YOU (the operator). If the operator felt the need to be held, the Warframe wouldn't let go for the world. At least that's how I interpret it."

[Addendum: #I like to imagine you can't trade warframes because you can't just give the bond you have up #It's too personal to just throw away a warframe #Which is also why I appreciate the helminth doesn't just erase warframes #It leaves a flower as a reminder that the warframe is still with you supporting you in every way it can]

- @weaverreaver42

in tsd physical contact serves as a link between frame and operator; they can act as the warframe's will through touch. later on, that same frame finds it within themselves to act on the tenno's behalf, with no physical or somatic contact. umbra, who has his full consciousness and sentience, can move around independently without his tenno. is this a chartable spectrum of warframe redeveloped consciousness and, in turn, warframe conscious movement?

one can extrapolate that the less time spent with a warframe/honing tenno mind abilities, the less willpower the warframes have and are capable of acting on. through emotional bonding with the operator, they are learning to be alive once again. something something warframe is about choice and warframe is about love

what im leading up to with this is, if a tenno holds their warframe's hand, will the warframe hold theirs back?

[gyromitra-esculenta]

So, upon returning home, I thought to myself, hey, the new X-Com DLC was announced, and that got me thinking in general about the X-Com series (fuck you, Terror from the Deep or whatever were you called). Especially, the cool resistance sniper looking chick.

But it all began with me looking at the trailer of the ‘War of the Chosen’ and thinking, cool, there’s the evil alien sniper, lanky full stealth alien assassin, and a big guy that seems the most reasonable out of them, and they are all purply-violet-bluish… *squints at the screen* *squints more* Holy f*ck! TEAM TALON!?! …and they all hate one another?

I started to think that the new X-Com general storyline would incorporate well into Overwatch, especially if you take into the account the fact that the new X-Coms are a reboot in a way, but you could maybe possibly make the old games into things that did happen – Alien Crisis, not Omnic Crisis.

Following stuff is deeply inaccurate lore, a bunch of headcanons and an AU. @drift-ed This is what happens when you leave me to my own devices :| This is your fault.

So, the basic premise of X-Com is just that, killing aliens. You win, and that’s it. But with the second one, the storyline goes into ‘alternate’ reality in which the Commander was captured and Earth was benevolently taken over by Advent. Which makes X-Com into a successful organization that is toppled by a single ‘surgical’ strike and in its place a new world order has risen – but things are FAR from good.

The Commander then is rescued from Advent during the first mission in X-Com 2 where he was used as a kind of ‘strategic’ commander for Advent troops, but that’s not exactly that clear. Then you have the Avatar project which supposedly was to create vessels for Ethereals (current top-of-the-food-chain aliens).

But, psych!, apparently the Commander can ‘drive’ an Avatar and at least one Avatar was operational before the end of the game.

Which is of course, in my not-so-humble opinion, a very significant thing (and me reading way too much into a hack storyline for a strategy game), because Avatars are in a way psychic powerhouses, but… that’s supposedly because Ethereals are using them as vessels. But the Commander has a full use of the Avatar’s powers and during the ending is shown doing stuff with psychic energy.

So… one. There are no psychic powers before aliens invade. And then you can only develop your units in that tree because they have a predisposition towards it and you have the alien tech to make it usable (lore-wise, I think). Or there’s even a possibility that predisposition is only there because of the aliens and some kind of contamination/experimentation.

Two. The Commander is never mentioned having psychic powers if I remember correctly, and then he uses the Avatar by a way of forced ‘synchronization’.

Three. Avatars are made from people. As in, they are genetic scrambled eggs? At least that’s how I remember that.

Four. The Bureau – and the end mission of X-Com 2. You know, in the Bureau it’s canon that Ethereal can attach to or take over a human. During the end mission, there are at least two different Ethereals talking and they sometimes say some conflicting things, which, coupled with the Commander taking advantage of the whole psychic powerhouse Avatar thing, lends to a theory that the Commander has an Ethereal attached to him.

So…

The first X-Com leading character team is a rag-tag bunch of weirdos. The second X-Com team is a rag-tag bunch of weirdos. The trailer for the new DLC shows three different additional resistance groups and hints at least at one character being a weirdo.

So. Imagine this. Overwatch, successful in repelling beginning stages of the alien invasion, is taken down by a surgical strike (haha, doesn’t look like that from the cutscene really), loses a part of its core team, including the Commander Gabriel Reyes. The New World Order arises under the benevolent rule of the Advent (*cough*Talon*cough*) and everybody loves them.

After several years the resistance made up partially by the remnants of the core Overwatch group takes out small Advent training/recruitment center in some city, and, lo and behold!, they rescue Gabriel, who, unbeknownst to them, has an Ethereal attached to him (maybe possibly). And then, having their Commander back, they start to really fight back. As much as I like keeping faithful to the thematic roles of the characters, Gabriel makes much more sense as the new Commander (even if we assume the original Commander was Jack) since X-Com now pretty much wages a guerilla war against the Advent (*cough*Talon*cough*). And Gabriel does want to wreck some shit up.

Now, the Ethereal thing is optional here, since it’s assumed the Commander doesn’t go on field missions, but then it’s really how you headcanon your troops there if you do. But, once in a month or something, there are rumors of unknown resistance group or operative that pulls something impossible, infiltrating Advent (*cough*Talon*cough*), blowing something up, and it/he starts to garner some individual attention, even is given a name: Reaper(s). And from what’s known, they are more than bordering on supernatural.

But there are also small pockets of resistance disappearing overnight without trace. Sympathizers in the cities snatched away without notice.

And then, Advent (*cough*Talon*cough*) presents their new Speaker, taking over for the one killed by the X-Com. Charismatic, white-haired, of course it’s Jack, and everybody and their grandma knows it’s a blatant trap. And Jack, as a leader of previous X-Com, is more believable for people, when spouting Advent (*cough*Talon*cough*) propaganda.

Even if it’s an obvious trap, they take the bait and prepare, which leads to an epic showdown that culminates in Ethereal on Ethereal violence and some explosions. Well, they take out the new Speaker, at least the Ethereal attached to Jack, but Jack himself couldn’t have survived, which makes it a bittersweet victory, but not an unexpected outcome.

Since then more Avatars (like 3 or 4, separately) appear, and every each one they go after is not Jack. But maybe sometimes it feels like *someone* is helping them during those missions – some other missions too.

So, the end-game. The mission itself is pretty interesting, let’s just say that it’s a suicide mission with win condition that only the Commander has to survive, every other soldier is expendable, and all Avatars must be killed. Avatars arrive through gates with alien helpers, and alien helpers also arrive by themselves (or something like that).

So the whole squad is getting pretty much pummeled, under fire from all sides, and the last gate comes online and out steps another Avatar with his helpers. So it’s just as well they have like zero chance survival with those odds, but god help them, they are going to take down the whole undersea facility with them while the Ethereals prattle on about the worse threat towards everything and stuff, only…

Welp, the last pod of aliens starts to attack their brethren and the newly arrived Avatar goes all psychic maelstrom on the closest enemy Avatar, so much in fact that you can literally see and hear the Ethereal possessing him go squish.

And Gabriel KNOWS. Fuck the humanity, he couldn’t care less at that exact moment, he’s about to get up and cross the whole distance to the other side of the chamber regardless of the barrage of fire from the both resistance and aliens, and deck that fucker that let him think he’s dead.

‘I know. Later.’ He hears Jack in his mind. So they make the last push, kill the last load-bearing Avatar, and Jack basically throws them through the collapsing gate.

And a moment later gets decked on the other side just as he steps out of the gate.

Then Team Talon comes in to recover two important Advent (*cough*Talon*cough*) assets. And apparently, they hate one another *shrugs*. I’m pretty hyped for the story side of the DLC even if I know it will be a hack storyline. STILL, BETTER LOVE STORY THAN…

Oh yeah, and freaky psychic sex with an Ethereal voyeur.

There’s a lot that could be done with xcom plot :|

And seriously, the Chosen Ones could be, like, holding a big sign with ‘we’re team talon’ on it.