#I've made fanart but i never made fanfic. and I respect authors all the more now like....THEY'VE BEEN USING THIS MUCH BRAIN POWER?? THIS WH

[suusoh]

gonna get back to writing in a bit. Gonna draw some stuff first brb. 👍 Johan brain rot is taking on in a different form.

[nohara-rin-dot-mp3]

@ava-likes-fanart some fanfic recs

Araived on ao3 has some rin fics that are pretty darn good imo! i have. no idea what counts as depressing but i'll give it my best shot???

in the end is an amazing character study that has. *squints* a melancholy tone throughout? and it does end with rin dying. but like. idk. she does tend to do that. really really good fic though.

crack me open pour one out is an edo tensei fic where kakashi is trying to save rin and bring her back for real, and rin does not want to be brought back which. might be depressing???? literally i have to clue lmao its some really fun kakarin though. characterization is completely on point.

to the heart (but we beat on) is a rin-gets-reincarnated-into-bnha fic. probably the least depressing out of all of these??? maybe?? by my admittedly skewed standards?? idk it leans towards hurt/comfort mostly i think. so. yeah??

all the things we will become by ringwil is a very nice and sweet infiltrator!rin fic about rin learning to love and be loved. and she does die at the end (it's technically canon compliant as is 90% of rin fic cuz you cant contradict whats not there babyyyyyyyy) but i think its not too sad??? idk i like it.

six degrees of separation by OneshotPrincess is a general team seven roleswap fic that doesnt focus on rin. but i think she just gets some really nice characterization here even without being the central character. im also just a sucker for rin-sensei aus T_T really fun alternate worldbuilding in this one.

she never made it to the ocean by OpensUp4Nobody is depressing even by my standards but my god is it worth it if you can stomach it. it's a really cold depiction of root!rin (awesome take on rin in general) that doesn't pull any punches. quite literally the rin fic of all time WILL rip out your heart and stomp on it in a terrifyingly detached way. iirc the author also posted a companion comic with it that goes hard as hell.

bracelets. by Mothervvoid is some really cute rinko (rin/anko) that mostly focuses around the absence of rin which might be depressing???? i just thought it was kind of cute

reaching for something without knowing it's there by chadsuke takes place entirely after rin's death and is about shizune trying to find closure + understand it. happy ending! also some fun kakashi + shizune interactions.

"is it wrong to want more?" by childsoldier is some short + sweet prose about rin. great rin masks, great morally-dubious minato, just a fun read overall. i mean she dies at the end. but its rinfic i feel like thats a given for most of these lolll

the nohara rin-centric tag in general is a great place to start, cuz there's not a ton of fics in it. so it's pretty easy to scroll through and pick up some favorites. if you scroll through her main character tag make sure you put on filters. because there's a lot of junk where she only has a few lines and exists only as a plot device. T_T man i wish people would tag properlyyyy

and uh ive personally. written. some rinfic

normal amounts.

the most non-depressing ones??? as far as i can tell?? are probably. uh.

we’re gonna be well which i KNOW is just pure untouched fluff because i wrote it specifically to be that. tenzo + rin bond while making banana bread. mostly just an excuse for me to write idle chatter.

fellas, i think this goes beyond simple mis-remembrance is peak comedy. to me. rin also tells obikaka to kill themselves multiple times so millage may vary but i personally find it hillarious??? so.

a handful of teeth is my take on a rin survives au. and possibly the happiest and most well-adjusted rin i've ever written. she's getting better here!!! a little depressing at times but overall hopeful??? i think??

throwing fuel to the fire of that greco-roman dream is pure self indulgence in that i locked rin-sensei kakashi-sensei and obito-sensei from their respective universes in a room and studied them like bugs. they're so funny. i don't think this is depressing?? although the ending is a little downer?? maybe? idk i thought it was funny.

mating dances (and other strange sights at cafe minato) is a modern coffeeshop kagurin (kaguya/rin) au. pure crack. literally just me putting them into situations for fun. they're very silly here. NOT DEPRESSING EVEN A LITTLE BIT!!!! told entirely though obito's pov as he does his best to understand the strange mating rituals of nohara rin in her natural habitat.

[eileen-crys]

Ok I know this post is long and going to trigger some people, I hate dramas as almost everyone in this fandom but I'm honestly exhausted of finding a**holes around and I can't keep pretending nothing happens. I'm a polite person and I don't like to make names and point my finger at people, so let's keep this a general discourse.

So this happened between yesterday evening and this morning, I've posted this photo on my instagram stories this morning.

As I've already mentioned before, there's a bunch of people who hate Veronica Deacon (mind: this is not a simple "dislike her" for personal reasons/vibes, here's literally a movement of hate and canceling) and are adamant in spreading their hate towards her, intoxicating posts where she's mentioned or John's family role is mentioned, canceling her whenever there's a confirmed pic of her ("that's not her! That's *imaginary person never heard about*") mocking people for even liking her, let alone who enjoy John and Veronica together (I've been personally harassed on Facebook by some of these people) behaving very childishly despite their older age (also using the "I'm old so I know better" card to prove their points) and believing in absurd made-up "theories" on Wattpad that twist interviews, real facts and actually try to warp reality mostly with the function of "making Deac*ry real in real life". (Censoring the ships name just to not disturb sane shippers as I had already said once) For them every reliable source, included words by the direct interested, are lies to cover up these relationships. They use songs to "prove facts" when nothing is confirmed, pretending to be woke or smth I don't know really. Some time ago some idiot even told around that Veronica isn't the mother of John's kids, she used to abuse him and other stuff coming out of nowhere, but honestly that's an old discourse that thank the gods has been closed (because honestly even the dumbest people could sniff that it was all made up). ((They also hate Jim Hutton because of the same reasons, if you were asking.)) ((I feel so bad for responsible shippers that have these idiots on their boat, guys get rid of em plss))

This leads me back to this fanfic I found and that line that has been added in a petty way after deleting that comment.

You know I'm the last person who would say "stop writing fanfics about real people", we're a fandom that deals with real people and real or fanmade relationships, that's not remotely the issue here. It's not even the plot that as much basic it is it's quite common and I've read every kind of version of it with basically any ship in this fandom (tho Veronica is the most common one to fall in this trope, followed maybe by Chrissie) and that's kinda okay, I'm not here to judge anyone for that, write what u want, there are lots of well written fics with the same plot.

The issue here is the existence of that statement, "Veronica is a real cold hearted manipulative person". It implies that the author actually believes what they wrote is real. And what they wrote is a Veronica that's and absolute bastard with no reason to be it, she's just evil because yes, gets pregnant on purpose to stay with John, sends him away from Fred and enjoys seeing John being absolutely crushed after he had to leave fred like idk some kind of Scar who enjoys watching Simba running away after Mufasa's death. Because she's evil ok? That should be even ok (not really but you got the point???) if the author wrote that just as a dramatic angsty story with a boring villain, but the addition of that line is the issue here, the author feels like that woman is seriously like that. I honestly struggle to believe anyone could be so serious about this but yes there are people who are and try to spread their hate like this, towards a person they don't even know and has done nothing against them to "deserve" to be hated.

When I posted that pic in my stories today I had numerous people writing me that they couldn't believe someone would seriously hate Veronica to the point of doing this, that's why I'm making this post. There are lots of ppl who have no idea of this issue of the fandom that's more serious than it seems, it has to be put under the sunlight.

You don't have to love Queen's real relationships if you prefer fanmade ones, but please at least respect them. Respect Queen's wives and husband, they are real people. Respect Queen's real lives even if they made questionable things and mistakes. You can't fix them anyway and you're not entitled to change what happened in the past. Please be aware of the sources you get informations from, use reliable sources and believe them, keep songs as they are: poetry, be aware that what you find/create in fanfictions (and some fanarts) is not real. Respect creators that draw/write ships that aren't your faves.

And please ignore these idiots who claim to ""know the truth"" about Queen's private lives. They feel empowered by their age and by the doubts and misteries around some aspects of Queen's lives and they won't change their minds if you present them facts. Shut them off with an "ok" and ignore them. Thanks for reading until now, I hope this has been somehow helpful.

[shapeshiftersamirah]

Ahh someone else who started on ffn!!!! I've found it's soooo different from tumblr, some of the stuff you see on there....

I… apparently have a lot of thoughts on this (??) which I was not expecting. There’s a mini essay beneath the cut that includes minor culture analysis done by an amateur, how I joined the pjo fandom, and CAPITALS because emphasis, but the short answer is: yeah, tumblr and ffn cultures are continents away from each other, and (kind of surprisingly, especially considering the DISCOURSE on tumblr), tumblr is better.

I cannot for the life of me remember how I found it, but ffn was my first foray into fanfic and wow did I ever learn stuff. Some of it was good and is still useful to me (like how to tell if a fic is well written just from the summary, fandom terminology, good writers aren’t always good people, but they always bookmark good fics, etc) but a lot of other stuff was a little scarring, especially for a kid with no prior fandom experience. Looking back, a lot of stuff on ffn is horrifying. And I’m not just talking about the writing/plots.

I remember skimming author’s notes on fics and the writer would seem so tired and annoyed as they asked readers to stop demanding updates or explaining “so I got hit by a car and was in the hospital for a while which is why this is late sorry about that” (or some other completely legit reason for not posting on schedule). Or even in the description, I saw a lot of “this is my first fic please be gentle!” or just flat out “no flames”. And that’s a little unnerving to think about. These people feel the need to explain their lives and then APOLOGIZE for it to avoid criticism. I feel confident in guessing that the writers putting “my first fic please be gentle!” in the description were mostly pre-teens to early teens. They were kids. They were seeing all of these amazing writers producing amazing content and getting hate for it and they were terrified of the same thing happening to them, so they had to come up with a way to protect themselves. The fact that they even felt the NEED to protect themselves blows my mind and breaks my heart. And some of the people putting “no flames” in their description were likely doing it as a precaution, but it started for a reason: people were getting so many hate filled reviews it was a problem, so they found a solution. (And I know this type of hate and demanding updates still happens, and it still horrifies me, but I feel like it was more frequent back in, like, 2012. Or at least, I heard about it more back then.)

(Friendly reminder that fic writers don’t owe you anything so don’t bother them demanding updates. Tell them how much you love their fic instead, ask questions about it, show that you’re interested and want more and you’ll get it and a much happier author.)

There’s a lot of design features I don’t care for on ffn and the tagging system there is ATROCIOUS I have no idea how I found ANYTHING, but I liked visiting ffn. Until I found tumblr (and later AO3).

My favorite pjo writer linked her tumblr to her ffn profile and mentioned she had more fic posted there, so I immediately went and devoured it. In doing so, I discovered that tumblr was a better website (I cannot believe I just typed that. That shows you how much I hate ffn). I stalked her tumblr every day and through her, I found more pjo writers, some I recognized from ffn and others who were totally new to me. Through those new writers, I found even more. And most of them had FIC REC TAGS which became my favorite thing. During this time, I didn’t visit ffn once. I had everything I wanted and MORE because on tumblr, you could post FANART and GRAPHICS and DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SERIES! There was a better communication system on tumblr. I didn’t see hate everywhere. I didn’t have to sift through piles of things I wasn’t interested in or that were written so poorly I couldn’t follow to find a few mediocre fics or that one professional quality fic. I could see evidence of internet friendships! It was just a nicer place to be.

When I finally made my own tumblr account in 2015 and subsequently started this blog in 2016, I really immersed myself in the pjo community and learned all sorts of stuff. Like: there are people here who I swear to god are actual rays of sunshine. Some people have ingenious insight into the series and the characters and holy shit my understanding of everything is so much better now. There are so many talented people, but they’re all human just like you. And more of course, but the bottom line is that for the most part, the fandom was a good place to be. I rarely saw hate being sent. The discourse wasn’t fandom ending, though most people were Done by the time it’d run its course. I saw a lot of nice messages being sent to people and there were a lot of excited, happy responses in return. People respected each other.

For the most part, I really enjoy being a part of the pjo fandom here on tumblr. There are so many incredibly talented people and the vast majority of people are so sweet and nice and good to be around. Almost every day I see something that deepens my understanding of the series. It’s just a nice place to be for the most part. There are things I have really started to hate, but it’s easy enough to avoid them. Tumblr is a pretty shitty website sometimes (in design and fandom), but I would never in a million years trade it for ffn.