#I've had the song and first image since 2013 and 2014 respectively so there's no telling what was going on in my head at the time lmfao

[unluckyxse7en]

For the kaito & len art: That's art for the project diva costumes for the song erase or zero by the official designer, ichimura! I don't think it's a song series but ichimura has drawn those two modules a bunch so you've probably seen it somewhere else (i could be part of it since i rb their art somewhat regularly here lmao)

ahhh, okay!! Ended up going on a tangent lmao but-

I checked for the art I was thinking of on my computer and it doesn't line up at all vibeswise so now I'm wondering if there's an intersection of association going on here - because I do have that song on my computer! and I've had this v v v

On my computer for a bit longer, under the title "Project Zero". (Although tbh I had a bad habit of putting my own interpreted names onto image files for a long time so not sure if that's the original title or one I thrust upon it... -_-)

Either way, I'm wondering if I just sort of linked the two in my head due to the shared word of "zero", featuring Kaito and Len - and/or assumed maybe since "Erase or Zero" didn't match the vibe that it was part of a series? I don't think I ever saw the video for it, just listened to the song, so lots of room to extrapolate lmao

Either way... I don't feel like these illustrations are connected aside from some overlap in subjects lol (post link for this one v)

[alarrytale]

Hello! I would like to add my pov when you and other fans all calling Louis out for his drugs/alcohol/cigarettes use and mentioning it. I´ve been a fan of The 1975 since their debut in 2013 so I basically saw their rise from quite unknown indie band playing small venues to being this huge and world-known. I am very aware that Matty Healy is not popular in this fandom and I totally respect it because I know he´s problematic and even quitted the fandom back in 2018.

Writing how I saw their rise of fame I also saw Matty´s poor mental health back then and dealing with fame - my first show of them was in Oct 2014 and all I saw was a totally stoned/drunk person on stage who barely knew what he´s doing there. Few months after my show he had a big breakdown during one show and his bandmates needed to take him off the stage and I think that show ended premature. When I saw them second time in 2016 Matty came to the stage being annoyed af, he just came there looking like he´s way too bothered he´s been taken out of bed that day because of some show and didn´t even act that he´s enjoying that show. In 2017 he also looked quite off and not enjoying the show and I started to think he´s on drugs again (even when he was in "happy" long term relationship and fans were obsessed pointing out how happy he was) and of course - few month after that he ended on rehab because of being addicted on heroine. I saw them again this summer and I need to say that after 10 years of being their fan (I don´t count the time when I quitted the fandom because I still liked their old music) it was finally a good show and Matty looked the best.

Also for those who don´t know him - Matty is very well known for liking to get stoned, their famous song Chocolate is about weed, other songs mention cocaine or heroine, he´s been spotted with joint milion times, he posted stories where he´s saying his wannabe intelectual bs being stoned and there was even an affair when back in 2015 fans spotted him on the street and he took bong with them. He also used to drink and smoke on stage. And even after everything that happend, nobody cancelled him, called him out, there was no huge fandom exodus because of his behaviour and the band is still very very popular and Matty is loved by his fans.

I´m not writing this as an excuse for Louis what he´s doing and that we should just take it as a normal thing and not calling him out for being unprofessional but comparing him with Matty I just wanted to point out that there are musicians who are much worse than Louis trying to fit into his lad image (or why the hell is he like this) and yes, Matty is problematic af but look at him and compare him with Louis - there are so many lines Louis can crossed and so what he´s doing is nothing compare what I witnessed with Matty. I still think that this is his 2nd solo tour and he´s getting used to having shows which are only about him. Maybe I´m optimistic but I just think he´ll need to get comfortable and get used to routine and find out drinking/getting stoned every other night is not sustainable for long run of being on tour for months. And yes, realize that his wannabe lad image is hurting him - but that´s maybe what will come when he´ll get more comfortable and realize he don´t need to fit into anything to be loved.

Hello, anon!

Thank you for your perspective! I've now learned more about mat*y hea*y than i'd ever care to know lol.

We can agree that mat*y is far worse than Louis, but why are we comparing the two? I don't see any similarities, not in their upbringing, their career, challenges they've faced or target audience/fandom? The only thing they have in common is shit coping mechanisms.

Matty seems like a nepo baby who grew up rich, maybe without getting attention from his parents, which led him to craving attention, any attention. He probably faced pressure to be cool. His mental health suffered from that and it lead him to drugs and acting out. His band is currently taking an indefinate hiatus because he's widely disliked and currently 'cancelled' for being deeply problematic.

Louis' issues stems from being told he's not good enough and from supressing his sexuality, against his will. In addition he's had some devastating losses and now probably feels a responsibility to provide for his family. He's also faking being a dad, while knowing his fandom doesn’t buy it. He's living under enormous pressure. He is pushing himself more than is healthy and is drowning his sorrows in drinks and drugs. Louis is not generally problematic, and him starting to not giving his all as an artist is a new development. He's not doing it for attention, but out of insecurity. He's also not intentionally trying to harm others with his actions. So i think their cases are a bit too different to be compared.