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Hey, I have a question. You seem to know a lot about RDR2 and I need some help understanding something. I also have the iron gray roan Ardennes and I was wondering if it's only available in your first playthrough or if I'll have it again in my second? I haven't finished my first playthrough because I'm procrastinating the ending lol I started playing RDR2 in January so I'm fairly new to how this stuff works.
Hello!! I hope you're enjoying the game!! Not to worry, you'll get the iron grey roan ardennes in every playthrough you do! The horse will always be available in the valentine stables <3
#good luck with the ending my friend :')#I believe in you!!#this is my boy roca#I started playing in january too! thats so fun#I'm currently on my third playthrough so I'm happy to help if you have any other questions <3#mick squeaks#rdr2#red dead redemption 2#asks#red dead redemption community#micks pics
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~ A Devouring Obsession ~
Dissecting the message behind the bistro horror game, Dead Plate
‼️ WARNING ‼️
This post contains spoilers for the entire game and all 4 endings. If you would like to play the game before reading, you can download it at the link below.
Being a French Waiter Sounds Fun, Right?
First of all, I'd like to start by saying I absolutely LOVE this game by @racheldrawsthis and the amazing people at Studio Investigrave. The story will permanently occupy a part of my brain, which is exactly why I'm taking the time to share my thoughts on it.
In this game, we play as a happy-go-lucky waiter named Rody, who's just started his new job at a famous 1960s French bistro, La Gueule De Saturne.
His boss is a prolific chef named Vincent Charbonneau, who's equally odd as he is talented. He stands in the back of the bistro kitchen and watches his cooks meticulously prepare his day-by-day cuisine, meanwhile Rody is mysteriously the only waiter.
It's worth noting that the "diner style" gameplay is incredibly fun and really impactful to the overall experience of the story. Even though it seems to only be particularly relevant in the first playthrough or so (however long it takes you to buy the Matches), I still absolutely love the feature.
The Difference Between Love and Obsession
Sadly enough, I've seen a lot of debate going around in the fandom and Rach's ask-box about shipping connected to the game. While I support headcanons and unique interpretations of the source material (and don't hate the ship), just as any creator should, I also cannot stress enough that this is NOT a story about Love!
The story of Dead Plate is incredibly immersive and very well written, meaning that just as in life there is very much a possibility for the events between Rody and Vince to have ended better. But the point of the story is to actually illustrate the tragedy of Obsession and how it can ruin a person.
To preface, if neither Rody nor Vince had indulged in their obsessions, things could have ended a lot better for everyone involved. But sometimes in life, tragedy strikes, and there's nothing you can do but learn to accept it. The best outcome, the happy ending, isn't always the reality.
So if any of you out there still believe that the game of Dead Plate was "shipbaiting" somehow, or if you struggle to see the differences between Love and Obsession portrayed in the story, well...
Allow me to elaborate!
The Manon Hangup
We all know Rody and Vince, whether you've played the game or just got a bit curious about it on the Internet. But, the third major character who holds the stories of these two boys together like glue is our dearly departed Manon.
Although her identity is mostly hidden until after the first ending, Manon is soon revealed to be Rody's ex-girlfriend and Vince's current girlfriend. She serves as both the object of Rody's obsession and the catalyst of Vince's obsessions — although, despite her being the story's primary victim, I can't help but feel she's also a bit guilty of Crime of Inactivity for the events which transpire.
Rody and Manon had been dating for a while, I think since even before Rody dropped out of university. He would spend all of his time and money trying to make sure she was always happy, neglecting himself to the point that Manon finally broke up with him.
And then went after a rich, famous chef almost immediately... Ya know... As normal people do...
Needless to say, Rody believes he's madly in love with Manon. He's constantly talking about how absolutely in love with her he is — about songs he wants to write for her, and things he wants to do to make her happy. And all of this definitely gives the illusion of love, but if you actually pay attention to what he says and how he acts, it's pretty obvious that Rody isn't in love at all.
Rody is obsessed with the idea of being in love...
See, when you're in love with someone, you talk about them — who they are, what they enjoy, how they make you feel, etc. But Rody never says anything like this about Manon; if he did, then we would have understood who she was better before Ending 3. Instead, everything he says about her is an "I" statement.
"I bought her gifts!"
"I want to take her to dinner!"
Yet, even when asked questions about Manon, Rody can barely answer them. The best detail we can get out of him is that she might be a little materialistic.
Rody's obsession was never about Manon, it was instead about how having a girlfriend made him feel. That's why he held onto her so hard, why you have the option to try calling her every single night, and why he simply can't even accept the fact that she broke up with him.
This likely has something to do with trauma in Rody's past, although we'll never really know. What we DO know is that Rody's behavior could have possibly been corrected if Manon had simply acted sooner in the relationship.
Why did she wait until he was so far gone to finally take action?
Why did she start dating a richer guy almost immediately?
We don't know enough about Manon to say for sure, but I suspect she may have been passively taking advantage of Rody until the guilt was too much to bear. Which in itself didn't exactly lead to her death and the ruining of three lives, but Manon still had the opportunity to stop this entire debacle before it even had a prayer of happening.
The Torment of a Chef
So now we slide over to Vincent's obsession, which is admittedly more detailed and complex than Rody's. After all, he's a trained chef in France, the capital of culinary arts! It's no doubt his job is way more high stress than you could possibly imagine.
But there's so much more to his psyche than that...
Rach has given us a lot of details about Vince, and I'm going to be referencing them quite a bit in order to properly explain the nature of his complex obsession.
Let's start with the fact that, although it isn't directly confirmed, it's been mentioned quite a lot that Vince's parents don't show him any love — this of course would be the reason why he has no idea what love actually is or what it feels like. The only thing he's probably ever loved in his life is food, which makes it all the more devastating that he lost his sense of taste when he was a small child.
Vincent spent his entire life learning how to cook perfect food, yet he despises eating and can't taste ANY of the masterpieces he cooks. That alone would be maddening.
Yet, it gets worse for him. Because Vincent doesn't understand love, that also means he doesn't understand how to put love into his dishes — the one ingredient every chef will tell you is most important in cuisine. (I should note I actually have a little bit of a background in professional food services) It's a huge insecurity for Vince, and rightfully so! Despite all of the people who praise his skill, there's always a handful that will call it "bitter" or "soulless" despite that.
But that's fine, he's fine. He's managing that insecurity. So what if he can't cook with love? Who even knows what love is anyway? He's still famous, and talented, and well renowned. He doesn't need those heartless critics.
Until he met Rody...
The two of them went to the same university, although it's pretty evident they didn't interact much back then. It's possible that Vincent's obsession with Rody started in university, watching him from afar, but that's uncertain.
What is certain is that Vince became obsessed with Rody after the ginger became a waiter at the bistro. Vincent heard Rody talk constantly about how much he loved Manon, that it started to make Vincent think... What if that was his key to cooking with love..?
Remember how Vince doesn't understand love? Well, it's important to consider that although one might not understand what love is or how to show it, that doesn't mean that they don't feel love.
Vincent is canonically gay, and also canonically obsessed with Rody. But why did he become obsessed with Rody in the first place? Usually when you latch into a person like that it isn't for some random, niche reason. So it seems highly possible that Vincent was in love with Rody.
He even did his best to show his love to Rody in the only way he knew how — by cooking.
Each night, Vince sends Rody home with "leftovers" — except, they aren't actually leftovers; they're dishes which Vince specially cooked himself specifically for Rody. He desires more than anything for Rody to enjoy his cooking, because he has no other way to show his love.
The issue with that is Rody is one of the people who expressly believes that Vince's food is soulless. Granted, he's the sort of person who would praise Burger King so honestly his opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, buuuutttt... That's not how this works.
Vince loves Rody, therefore Rody's opinion is important.
Rody "loves" Manon, therefore Vince is jealous of Manon.
I suspect this is why Vince was willing to agree to a relationship with Manon in the hopes of killing her. See, he's so obsessed with cooking "love" for Rody that if you choose to give cheese to the rat in the kitchen on Day 4, Vince cooks the rat as one of the meals for Rody.
Why? Because Rody showed it love.
It's the exact same reason that he decided to murder and cook Manon into the Grilled Hanger Steak.
I know you're going to say "But, wait! He wanted to eat Rody too!" and yeah, he does eat Rody in Ending 4. But let me impart some wisdom onto you all as to why his meticulous plan took these tragic events.
I know it's tempting to buy into the idea that Vincent intended to eat Rody all along, but consider his dialogue in Day 7 for a moment.
As he's talking to Rody, Vincent reveals his true nature — all he wanted was for Rody to eat the steak he made and taste the love he felt for Manon. He never once mentions a desire to eat people himself. Not until Rody tries to escape and Vince snaps, declaring:
"But... Maybe you ..."
It's only then that Vincent actually starts attempting to kill Rody. After all, if he really wanted to kill Rody, he wouldn't be so willing to have a conversation with him (or get mad when he couldn't escape the freezer in Ending 2)
The issue in Vincent snapped when Rody found Manon's locket in the freezer. His plan was completely ruined, and with no plan B, he lashed out. It's also worth noting that Rach confirmed Vincent is a lightweight when it comes to alcohol.
Funny how he attacks Rody with a corkscrew and you find a broken wine bottle in his office, huh?
It isn't confirmed, but I consider it highly likely that Vince was drunk on the night of Day 7.
If Vince was inebriated when Rody made him snap, it would explain his impulsive and irrational behavior. Drunken minds lead one to do all sorts of things, and it's likely that it played a role in Vince's plan shifting from making Rody taste love...
...to eating Rody in the hopes of tasting anything love for himself.
Because it isn't Rody's love of Manon that Vince thinks he'll taste. That was never how the theory worked.
It would be Vince tasting his love of Rody.
Who's the Real Villain?
Vincent might be the antagonist of our story, but that doesn't necessarily make him the villain. After all, his actions were entirely circumstantial to Rody's behavior. Which means that—
You guessed it
Our true villain is Rody.
This is something I really love that I've noticed in the 3/5 Studio Investigrave games I've played so far — the protagonist tends to be an unconventional villain.
In Rody's case, I'm sure it comes as a shock considering his himbo-puppy demeanor, but if you take a step back and look at him it's pretty obvious. Everything in the story happened because of Rody's self-sacrificing behavior.
Rody's obsession with Manon fueled Vince's obsession with him. His unwillingness to see the consequences of how he treated himself allowed it to hurt everyone around him.
If Rody could have accepted his break-up with Manon, she might not have ended up dead. If he could have reigned in his obsessions then neither of them may have ended up dead.
In a better timeline, Rody and Vince may have even been able to find love in each other.
But this isn't that story.
This is a tragedy.
A timeline where everything goes to the worst possible outcome. Where obsession devoured three lives...
Thank you all for taking the time to read all of this!
If you'd like to discuss the theories or have any questions, feel free to ask or send me a message ~
#dead plate#rody lamoree#dead plate rody#vincent charbonneau#dead plate vincent#dead plate manon#racheldrawsthis#studio investigrave#indie horror game#rpg maker horror#analysis
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I was yelling (affectionately) at my friend about this, which once more made me ask myself the question "do I research to write fic or do I write fic to have something to research."
More rabbitholes I've fallen into over the past few weeks (potential fic spoilers ahead sort of?):
BG3
What happens to a soul in DND if someone dies? TURNS OUT IT DEPENDS ON A LOT OF THINGS (your religion, your race - elves reincarnate, if you have no religion, etc).
Can elves sleep? Why don't they? Why is 100 considered the age of majority for elves amongst their own kind?
How is Waterdeep laid out? How big is Waterdeep? What holidays are celebrated there?
What spells don't require verbal components?
Where was Drizzt in 1492? Did Drizzt ever go to Waterdeep?
What do you call an aboveground stone coffin? The only word I could really find was "sarcophagus."
Why do Gandrel's kids' eyes still glow red if you run into him in the sewer? I still don't know! And I had to watch a cutscene for it because I murdered him in my playthrough. Sorry, bro. I feel guilty about it in retrospect.
What's the layout of Cazador's palace? Especially the underground bit. Yes, I've played through that part but I have a terrible memory and I wanted it to be RIGHT. Or as close to right as possible.
Various cutscenes with Mystra and Cazador to try and get a better understanding of their voices. Ulma and Gandrel too.
What does a magistrate do? What are the actual laws in Baldur's Gate?
Hazbin
What kind of dance events were popular in the 20s/30s? This is why part two is even going to exist because I googled "sock hop" and found out that was a 50s thing but oh hey what's a dance marathon? ...Alastor would love this... All I needed was for Angel to offer up a suggestion about dancing to wear him out...it was just supposed to be a throwaway line...
Everything I could possibly find around dance marathons (rules, competitors, food provided to competitors, how long they last, were there any nonsegregated ones, etc). Apparently they were like a mashup of pro wrestling and reality tv complete with kayfabe, villains, fixed competitions, etc.
How much did a tv cost in 1930? How much did a car cost? What was the average salary for a radio broadcaster?
What's the Louisiana French word for mother? (mère!)
How the fuck do radio waves/frequencies work? What's the difference in waves between television and radio? (the answer is witchcraft!)
How high can a deer jump?
What's the word for cutting something into like...carrot stick size?
What were some popular dances in the 20s? The Shimmy, the Texas Tommy, the Charleston, the Foxtrot, the Jumpin' Jive, etc.
What are the origins of popular dances in the 20s? A lot of them were inspired by/stolen from Africans and enslaved people! The Shimmy likely has its roots in Nigerian Shika, the Charleston was inspired by dances enslaved people performed after having their drums stolen for fear they were using them to communicate planned revolts.
How to write a good action/dance scene (because I started overthinking it because I know nothing about dancing and am not a super visual person)
Various things about what Alastor's human life may have been like in New Orleans in the early 1900s
1920/30s fashion for men and women
1920/30s music
...and this is all just what I can actually remember looking up recently, god help me...
But I enjoy it so fucking much. I'd be lying if I said I didn't. Researching always gives me so many new ideas. For example, I only have chapter five in my BG3 fic because I got curious about Drow culture. My BG3 fic that was supposed to be a one shot but is now probably going to tap out around 100k... Research is a dangerous thing... ╭( ๐_๐)╮
My Hazbin fic was also only supposed to be a oneshot... I'm currently about to hit 8k words on it and Lucifer and Alastor haven't even fucking danced yet. And I already have an idea for a third part... (-。-;
Yet again, I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me so fucking happy to feel inspired/motivated to write so much tho. All good problems to have!
#hismercy's musings#fanfic research hell or heaven#my fics#my writing#ancient books and horror stories#save me from myself
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