#I'd really like this outcome to have been the result of widespread fraud

[alex51324]

Oh, good, I was thinking I needed to do one of these, and now somebody else has.

Yeah, guys. I'm sorry, but the election fraud thing is copium.

Absolutely, everything should be checked into. The Russian bomb threats, the odd juxtaposition of record-high early voter turnout compared with low total turnout, Trump's "secret plan," etc.

(My money's on the "secret plan"--if it existed at all--being some sort of hail-mary he was going to try if he lost, but who knows, & that certainly isn't the sort of remark a candidate should go around making and not expect some additional scrutiny.)

But we went through this in 2016 as well--I spent a good couple of weeks closely following the recount saga, watching for any sign that we were about to hit the "aha!" moment, where the many small fluctuations that come up in a recount suddenly arranged themselves into a pattern that revealed all.

And in the end, it turned out that the result was valid. Yes, Russian propaganda was involved, but the outcome was ultimately the result of an accurate count of legitimate votes cast by eligible American voters.

That's likely to be what happens this time, too.

I would be incredibly relieved--and, in my heart, unsurprised--to learn that there was some malfunction or malfeasance that explains the result we got this week.

But that's probably not going to actually happen.

I'm fully on-board with investigating every whiff of impropriety--we should do that every time, regardless of who wins, and we should especially do it when the winner is a convicted felon and fraudster.

But we also need to prepare for the likely outcome of that investigation, and be strategic about how we deploy scarce resources--including the time and attention of people in a position to make things happen over the next 75 days until January 20.

These guys--Trump's people--aren't evil geniuses or criminal masterminds. They're two-bit grifters running scams on the biggest street corner in the world. Trump gets away with things through audacity, not subterfuge; if they did something that we don't already know about, we'll find out, because they will have done it stupidly.

But chances are, he won using the basic strategy of all con-men everywhere: figure out what the sucker wants to hear, and then offer them a deal that's too good to be true.

Ok, so with all these posts going around aboht election interference and calling for a recount, i wanted to find evidence that weren't twitter screenshots

Bomb threats at polling places:

This claim is legit, as well as the source being from russian email domains. No actual bombs were placed or set off.

Burning ballot boxes:

3 incidents of burning ballot boxes have been confirmed for this election in Portland, Oregon and one in Vancouver, Washington, both of which are suspected to be from the same individual. Republican and Democrat officials have spoken out against this, ballot boxes were guarded after the incidents started, and fire suppression systems inside the ballot boxes saved the majority of the ballots, except for one box where 488 ballots were damaged due to a malfunction of the fire suppression system.

Fires were also confirmed in Arizona by a man who apparently just wanted to be arrested and had no political motivations.

No fires were confirmed in Georgia, despite repeated claims that most of the fires were in Georgia. Georgia changed their election laws in 2021 in regards to absentee votes. Ballot boxes have been notably targetted for election conspiracy and mistrust. Take this into account when you see outcry about ballot boxes in any way.

Votes not being counted:

The screenshots im seeing particularly note California, which is the state with the largest amount of registered voters. California is also dealing with massive wildfires rn. Its gonna take a couple days, and the election isnt officially over yet. Calm down

20 million unaccounted votes:

Yall . . .

This shit takes time. Theyre not "throwing your ballots out" or "deliberately not counting votes". Be so for real

Some of this shit is valid, and should probably be known. Some of this shit is making yall sound like trumpers in 2020. Be smart. Have critical thinking.

If youre gonna reblog or comment with claims i better see credible evidence to back your claims up or youre getting blocked