#I'd make them the Mock Turtle and Gryphon
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victorluvsalice · 7 years ago
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AU Thursday: Wonderland Fuzz -- Casting Call! Part 2
Sequel to the original Casting Call! Had a chance to watch the movie again over Thanksgiving (it is awesome please go watch it) and have a think on the characters I couldn't include before because I wasn't sure about who they should be. Here's the rest of this potential AU cast list! Again, under a read-more because I’m talking spoilers.
Sandford Police Service
The Caterpillar (C. T. Pillar) as Bob Walker -- This is one where I'm fitting two people together based mainly on age -- Bob Walker is the oldest member of the Sanford Service, and Caterpillar is portrayed as an older "wise man" in the games. Bob is the least-seen member of the service (he doesn't even participate much in the main climax), and the main joke about his character is that he's incomprehensible until you get used to his accent (there's a great gag in the film where he has to translate for someone whose accent is even THICKER, and Danny translates for him to Nick). Caterpillar's more cryptic bullshit statements, particularly as the Oracle in the first game, I guess match him up decently with that.
Neighborhood Watch Alliance
Elder (Theodor) Gutknecht as Prof. Tom Weaver -- Oh, this one hurt to do a bit, as I like Elder Gutknecht, and I don't particularly like to put him on the side of evil. But, again, the fact that both characters are on the older side matches up, they're both kindly grandpa-types (at least when you first meet them), and Gutknecht stresses the importance of abiding by the rules during the climax of Corpse Bride (not letting the dead go after Barkis until after he's drunk the poison). And he's also okay with people getting "what they deserve," given he's only too happy to let the dead at Barkis once the rules aren't in the way, so. . . All those ravens he has in his tower remind me of all the cameras Weaver has access to as well (perhaps I can blame at least two fanfic authors in the CB section having him use them to gather intel on/for the main characters). And. . .well, Weaver is the only member of the NWA to explicitly die in the end. (Yes, the guy taken out by bear trap to the head AND the guy who impales himself on the replica church tower BOTH LIVE.)
Dr. Harry Wilson as Dr. Hatcher -- No, I'm not doing the long version of his name, screw that. Anyway, this is kind of a "they're both doctors, even if they're not the same kind, so. . ." And it's easy enough to interpret Wilson as a bad guy, given he is a Victorian-era psychiatrist. He'd fit decently into Hatcher's role of unofficial coroner and mild ass. He may be better than Dr. Bumby, but Alice probably wouldn't object to him suffering a few nonlethal injuries.
The Duchess (Amanda Duchess) as Amanda Paver -- one of the more minor NWA members, I decided a character who is known for moralizing in her appearance in the books would do for the headmistress of the local primary school. (Though we never see Amanda at her job, admittedly.) Also, an opening boss I still sometimes have trouble with in AMA seems a decent match for one of only two NWA members to actually HIT Nicholas in the ending firefight. (And besides, the image of her pedaling down the street on a bicycle, guns blazing, is just amusing.)
Pris Witless as Annette Roper -- Another fairly minor role, I figure running a small shop isn't beyond Witless's talents. At the very least, it means Alice keeps giving her money. :p And I enjoy the idea of her being dragged away from sniping at Alice by Charlie and his gang of hoodies.
(James) Mayhew and Hildegarde (Mayhew) as James Reaper and Mum Reaper -- more minor roles in the NWA, Reaper and his mother are basically there to pay off a joke about everyone and their mum packing in the country, and to be the first NWA members taken out by Nicholas when he comes back for the climax. I've got nowhere better to stick Mayhew and Hildegarde -- and the idea of Alice racing at Hildegarde and kicking her in the face before she can reload a shotgun amuses me.
Humpty Dumpty (Humphrey Dumpty) as Mr. Treacher -- An extremely minor NWA member, Treacher's only purpose is to wander around in a suspiciously thick coat for a while, and then reveal a big old gun under said coat for the major firefight. He doesn't even have any lines. Using Humpty, who has little more than a cameo appearance in AMA to point out the loose brick that leads to the Blunderbuss, seems like just the ticket.
The Jabberwock (Lewis Dragon) as Lurch (Michael Armstrong) -- Okay, this one feels like a pretty big mismatch -- Lurch is a mentally disabled man who we only ever see saying "Yaaarp," while the Jabberwock is a boss who knows how to make words hurt as much as his fire breath. But they're both tough as nails, and take multiple attempts to defeat (the Jabberwock has two boss battles, Nick has to take down Michael twice), so for a lack of better options. . .
Tweedle-Dee & Tweedle-Dum (Dennis and Columbus Tweedle) as Skinner's Butcher Brothers -- A minor role, but it calls for a pair of men who look both dangerous and a bit thick, and the Tweedles fit it perfectly. And their neverending supply of cutlery in the final supermarket raid does sort of mirror the neverending supply of little Tweedles they produce in their boss fight in AMA.
Murder Victims
Wilton Radcliffe as George Merchant -- this one's based off the fact that overly-fancy houses are a thing with both of them -- Radcliffe with his townhouse stuffed floor to ceiling with Asian artifacts, Merchant with his out-of-place mansion. Martin Blower was the solicitor in the original movie, but I think I could move it to Radcliffe without a problem (it's a minor detail in what you THINK is the motive behind the murders). Also, there's an interesting bit of irony in the man who thinks Alice had something more to do with the fire in A:MR getting reduced to a fiery crisp in the AU.
The Gnome Elder (George Elder) as Arthur Webley -- the guy who Bob Walker up there had to translate for. He has a stash of illegal weaponry in his barn, the confiscation which provides Nick with the firepower he needs in the end to go up against the NWA. He ends up killed off-screen, although I'm not sure if it's because of his gun stash or because he was cutting Reaper's hedges. Either way, he's such a small role that I feel justified shoving the Gnome Elder in his position based on the fact the Gnome Elder has the right look. And does spew a fair amount of cryptic bullshit, so I guess he is a good fit as the guy Caterpillar has to translate for. . .
The White Rabbit (Robin White) as Peter Cocker -- a shoplifter who leads Nick on a hell of a chase through Sandford -- sounds appropriate for a character built around speed and being chased! Peter also ends up dead for his crime off-screen -- again, appropriate for a character whose major role in both Alice games is to get offed.
Other
Peter Ian Staker and his Swan as themselves -- what do I mean by this? Well, Peter is a gag role built around the fact that Nick mistakes him calling about his swan for a prank call (P. I. Staker = piss-taker). I'd throw someone like the Mock Turtle into this role, but Peter happens to be played by none other than Stephen Merchant.
AKA in this AU, Peter forgives Alice for thinking he was a prank caller and tells her that's why everyone calls him Wheatley. I can't bring myself to recast him, is what I'm saying. XD
As for the swan? . . .It's a swan. What do you want.
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kittytheartist · 2 years ago
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TBHK Wonderland au
@mari-lair here you go!
it's loosely based off the snippets we've gotten from AidaIro
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also! I DO see the wonderland from through the looking glass as one au, so I take both versions into consideration^^ (although they can be separate if I wanted the cast to be different) and Disclaimer it's a lot more fun of a idea of you've at least read the first book; Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
so I like the idea of Kou being the Cheshire cat! because if suites him very well(also it's one of the only wonderlandians that try to help Alice(not that he isn't rude and the Cheshire cat also doesn't make sense but yk)[also AidaIro's take on the tea party we had in our canon timeline and making it the mad tea party was so amazing!])
and of course, Nene is our Alice in wonderland. that's classic!
Hanako as the white rabbit stays, because he truly is just leading her farther into the thick of the supernatural world, and lead her to the tea party! so he stays as the white rabbit.
Sumire is the Duchess! it just suites her so well I couldn't tell you why (but not the ugly part! Sumire will be a drop dead gorgeous Duchess variation lol)
of course Tsuchigomori is the caterpillar ok??? it's common knowledge!
Sakura can stay as the mad hatter and Natsuhiko as the sleepy mouse
and Tsukasa can stay as the Hare!
ok ok, I KNOW you might not get where I'm coming from but....Yako as the Gryphon
OK SO THE MOCK TURTLE IS A OLD MOKKE KINDA LIKE THE ONE WE SAW IN AFTER SCHOOL???
ok this is delving into Alice's second adventure more
ok so the mocking flowers we see Alice encounter? that'll mimick hell of mirrors yk? I just thought that'd be fun to point out!
ok so The white Knight is Teru(my beloved) and our Red Knight is Akane(my beloved) and for those who are unaware (looking at you Mar-Chan👀) the red and white knight are constantly fighting, they're on opposite sides! and I think they fit them well in an au spin, the red knight even scoops up Alice (Nene lmao) as a "capturing" gesture and Alice is brought back down to the floor by the white night, imagine how love struck she would be if Teru saved her from madness like that! she'd be head over heels, only for him to continue his fighting with the red knight after, not giving her enough time to properly thank him. although the white knight is depicted as falling over consistently I do not imagine the white knight, Teru would let that happen! but I do think white knight Teru would bore her by talking of his paperwork and siblings. yes and also to add to the TeruKane their issue in challenge is a fair fight! and they're both stubborn, but can respect each other, ok read this with the lenses I just gave you
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TeruKane would definitely want to see each other fall on their heads! anyways moving on
I couldn't tell you why, but the White Queen is Aoi ok?? she has PICNICS WITH NENE COME'ON also is helping her! but with how Aoi isn't the nicest she's always moving too fast and not really caring for Nene. also so fun to have Akane and Aoi on opposite sides, ya?
as for the Red Queen, she is Mirai! she's our apposing chess side but she is quite nice to Alice and even tells her how to succeed and play the game, but Alice sees her as the person who started the mischief, and blames her, but she really didn't do much, but is still part of wonderland, so yk their not the most straight headed.
the Queen of Hearts is a hard one....I couldn't actually place a character as the Queen of Hearts, of Kou wasn't the Cheshire cat I'd put him as Queen of Hearts, because the queen of hearts is really the nicest person in wonderland....
anyways the frog door man, critters and some other characters like that are mokke!^^
I'll let you think about this for a sec
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