#I think he could overpower rudolf very easily-
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aboutyoutoo · 2 months ago
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not to be [redacted] on main but i can't stop thinking about shanghai elisabeth and specifically lukas mayer's and dennis hupka's height difference. like,,, there's a good head+ difference there. and I know in 92 we kind of had the size difference of andy being tiny skinny breakable but a REAL todolf height difference is soooo fascinating to me. I wish more than anything for them to be in a real production because can you imagine lukas!tod manhandling his tiny little rudolf around?? I'd go crazy
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luluvsumineko · 4 years ago
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okay, real quick my thoughts on the end of episode 1, very paraphrased since i no good when brain use too long
the tea party.
so im told this is based off of something from the higurashi, but its clear that the narative in this is very seperate from the one in the actual episode. I imagine that from now on, the events on rokkenjima are going to be one seperate world, and the tea party battle of wits between battler and beato are gonna be in this second tea party dimension, while peering into the “real” world. What bothers me is the acknoledgement by battler and co that they are from a story called umineko. Are they just,, accepting that they aren’t real? are they accepting of their fictional deaths? i am confusion.
but back in “fictional” rokkenjima world, I AM HAVING IDEAS. they entire ending credits roll paints this as some real crime drama. The ending that we saw and the tea party heavily tries to lean on the “beatrice did it” theory, but i have come up with my own idea of how a human on the island could have done it
a majority of my thought process and brainstorming id did in my stream of ep 1 at the end, but i’ll give the cliffnotes version right now.
I think there are three culprits in this case: Rudolf, Kyrie, and Doctor Nanjo.
First, Kyrie siguises herself as Beatrice and gives Maria the letter. She then changes back for the On the night before the incident, Rudolf told Battler and Kyrie that he suspects he might die. However, this is an act put on by Rudolf and Kyrie in order to draw suspicion away from the two of them. And also possibly to mislead Battler in his deductions. This leads to the night of the first “six” murders. Rudolf and Kyrie work together to pick off Rosa and Krauss. Then them manipulate either Shanon or Gohda into giving them the rose garden shed key. They also would have taken the ring of keys that Shanon and Gohda have at this point. Once they had that, they just had to kill them off and set up the scene in the shed. After the bodies were mutilated, they simply had to cover their own faces with blood in order disguise themselves and wait to be dicovered with the rest of the bodies. This is where Dr. Nanjo comes in. Knowing of the plan, he confirms the deaths of everyone in the shed, including Rudolf and Kyrie. With the two of them dead in the eyes of the survivors, the two of them could start to act as the “19th person” hiding on the island killing them off.
For Kinzo’s disappearance and death, I believe it went just as Battler deduced: Kinzo waited until the receipt seal on the door had already been broken before leaving his room. From there, Rudolf and Kyrie jumped him and killed him.
The reason I believe both Rudolf and Kyrie are the culprits is because of the Eva and Hideyoshi locked room. What i believe the solution to this locked room mystery is requires two people to work together. First the killer, who I am assuming is Kyrie, knocks on Eva and Hideyoshi’s door and is allowed to enter. With the element of suprise, Kyrie kills them both with those stakes, and sets up Eva’s body on the bed. While still inside the room, Kyrie locked it with the chain. When Genji and Kanon tried entering and left to get help, Kyrie quickly unlocked the door, drew the Glyph, left the second letter, and relocked the door. Before anyone could break in, Kyrie then hid under the bed. Meaning, that, when the whole cast entered Eva and Hideyoshi’s room, the killer was still inside the room. This would have been a very risky move, if not for their plan of attack.
While Kyrie was killing Eva and Hideyoshi, Rudolf had put Kinzo’s body inside the furnace, letting the stench of a dead body spread through the house, and then hid in the boiler room’s shadows. This was bait used to lure someone down to the boiler room, so that Rudolf could kill them. The shock of a another murder, or at least an attack, would be enough to distract everyone in Eva and Hideyoshi’s room away to the boiler room. With everyone gone and trhe lock undone, this was Kyrie’s chance to escape, fooling everyone into thinking she was never there at all.
The last piece of the puzzle is the suddenly appearing third letter in Kinzo’s study. Unless Kinzo’s desk has a very subtle dispenser of letters that activates whenever people are distracted by the painting, I believe it’s most likely that someone placed there. Natsuhi said that the suspects who could have put it there are Nanjo, Genji, Kumasawa, and Maria. Including them, Natsuhi could be lying to cover herself or Jessica. Those would be the six main suspects, but I personally already suspect Nanjo so that seems like an open and shut case for me.
After that, the three together could easily overpower Genji and Kumasawa while tricking Maria to face the other way in the parlor by disguising Kyrie as Beatrice. And then in order to diguise Dr. Nanjo’s involvement, it’s possible that they could have disguised one of the previous dead bodies as Dr. Nanjo’s corpse when Battler and co. arrived. From there, when Natsuhi was isolated, they could have killed her with their own gun, and we never see what happens with the kids so... yeah.
So that’s my theory. It has a bunch of holes in it, such as motive and some reliance on how the survivors act, but it’s honestly the best i’ve got. The reason I think Rudolf and Kyrie are the culprits is because, among the dead initially found, they seem the most likely to co-operate. I had another theory that since the Ushiromiya family were rich and fucking lunatics, they could have just had a basement full of replica corpses they could have used to fake their deaths, but that seems a bit out there. I’m fairly confident that the solution to the Eva and Hideyoshi locked room is accurate, but hey i could be wrong,
So... yeah.
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