#I love Nancy please don't take my unpopular opinion as me not loving Nancy I adore Nancy
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withacapitalp · 2 years ago
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Nancy for the character question ask!
favorite thing about them
BADDIE NANCY!!!!! She shoots at a demogorgon and she fights all the time for everything. I also love that Nancy cares about Mike!!! Give us more of their sibling relationship in s5 PLEASE
least favorite thing about them
Ough I think that Nancy's one track mind can really be her downfall
favorite line
“Girls this age are dumb. But give ‘em a few years, and they’ll wise up. You’re gonna drive them nuts.”
Lmao Nancy doesn't have a ton of lines that stand out to me? But her and Dustin at the snowball and her trying to help him feel better? one of the sweetest scenes in the show
brOTP
Barb and Nancy!!! Eddie and Nancy!!! give her a best friend!!!! I also really like Nancy and Robin as buds!!! Them as friends is so greatttttt
OTP
Stoncy but in general I think that Nancy doesn't need to be in a romantic relationship. Nancy needs to learn how to take care of herself in a way that isn't detrimental to everyone around her, and she needs to acknowledge her pain and work through it instead of letting it run her. Nancy and Therapy that's my OTP LMAO
nOTP
Ronance in most instances. I think it can be done, but it's rare that I actually like it
random headcanon
Nancy met Barb in ballet (they both have ballet related things in their house) Barb was terrible at it, and Nancy was really good, but they both tended to hide in the back and talk about books they were reading instead of paying attention.
unpopular opinion
Nancy's selfish. Yep I said it. Nancy is focused on what Nancy wants and what Nancy needs to do to prove herself/feel better (even though she never really feels better because she never lets herself hurt. She just wants to fix it without feeling it). There is so many moments where I'm just like girl what are you doing!!!! Nancy is so crazy focused on getting justice for Barb that she ignores NDAs she signed? Like it is pure plot convenience that she and Jonathan weren't arrested/shot for the shit they did in s2. No way on earth that wouldn't have serious ramifications. She's so angry at being put down by the men at the paper (rightfully!) that she gets both her and Jonathan fired (not rightfully!) and then doesn't care when he is upset. She does not get that he can't lose his job because his family literally relies on his income. Nancy stays with Steve when she wants to be with Jonathan because she doesn't want to be alone, and then lets him blame himself for their relationship failing? She should have been honest that she didn't want him.
I don't mind Nancy being selfish! I honestly think it's a really good thing because it is at her core. I think that she can get to self-focused from selfish as she grows, and we see that as s4 evolves, but like I hate that no one is allowed to say anything that might be seen as critical of Nancy because no many people hate her. I love Nancy!! she's super interesting to me! But Nancy is selfish, which makes sense, and makes her stay interesting to me
song i associate with them
Way Down We Go by Kaleo and Duet from the Omori OST
favorite picture of them
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NANCY WHEELER FUCKING BADASS SHE IS SO IM SO OH MY GOD THE BISEXUAL FURY SHES A GODDESS SHES SO COOL
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wikiangela · 2 years ago
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911 lone star 4x02
spoilers ahead
aw I missed Grace so much 😍
loving Marjan getting a moment, I hope we'll see more of her this season, maybe she'll get an actual storyline 🤞
also, lmao this is so funny, why is this woman so difficult 😂 istg ls is a drama only sometimes, mostly it's a fucking comedy 😂
unpopular opinion but: I actually enjoyed Owen in s3, and I'm still enjoying him haha, tbh he was only really insufferable in s2, now I kinda like him, and his scenes are hilarious, and I'm kinda interested in his storyline this season 😂 (more interesting than tarlos that's for sure, and that's still so weird to even think lmao)
Grace and Tommy have the best friendship in this show 💯 lmao I love them
"just my wife" lmao okay that was funny - it's still not the best plot ngl, it's just so... low stakes, so low basically nonexistent - I already said that in a post before, but like, so what if they can't get married in a few weeks? 😂 like, this is just such a dumb reason jfc, we know they're gonna stay together, this is just drama for the sake of drama - I'm still gonna try to enjoy it tho, maybe they'll make it fun 💁🏻‍♀️😂
I was about to say this convo is annoying, but them recalling TK's accidents and the "how many comas have you been in" 😂 😂 lmao this is so funny
oh wow... she didn't sign the papers, who could've seen it coming..... just about everyone but okay 🙄 it's just such a boring storyline I'm sorry but like, it might've been a funny convo, but the overall plotline is just so boring, and making Iris just annoying tbh
OH MY GOD WHO CARES ABOUT THE VENUE 🙄🙄🙄 like, seriously, I can't express how boring I find this, they can literally find another place or wait a little longer
why is tarlos' storyline the most boring this season, please can this be over and can they get something more interesting?
Tommy being awkward with the pastor oh my god I love her so much, but someone shut her up pls 😂😂😂
okay, that leather jacket and hair kinda ruffled by the helmet - it's working for me, why is Rob Lowe so hot, I wasn't prepared to be (this) attracted to Owen this season 😭
thank god that was just Tommy's dream, because the dialogue was really making me cringe lol
I'm loving Tommy and Owen's friendship too 😂
I'm sorry, I guess I'm happy they're getting an annulment, and we're adding some drama now, but like.... I really don't fucking care, what is happening, tarlos were my fave part of this show and now I just wait for their scenes to be over, what have you done writers 🙄
okay, that tarlos scene was adorable and I love them - im still already over that whole marriage and Iris thing tho
oh, now Iris disappeared? okay, now it's getting interesting
that was a good episode, it flew by so fast tbh haha
loved Tommy and I'm lowkey here for the pastor storyline, but it seems to be going well, and we're only on episode 2, so I wonder what's gonna get fucked up
pls tell me Grace and Judd will get some story of their own because so far they're kinda to the side
same with Mateo, Marjan and Paul and Nancy - like, please give them something, they each had like an episode about them (aside from Nancy I think) and we're in s4, give them some longer storylines pls
(also, can we get begins episodes for them? that'd be so cool pls)
I kinda like Owen's story, it's interesting, and it's taking surprisingly little screen time for Owen 😂 (also, Rob Lowe has always been hot, but this season it's like, really standing out, almost as much as the beginning of s3 with the beard 🥵 wtf)
and finally, tarlos.... I was kinda over their whole story, but Iris disappearing makes it interesting tbh, so far it's been boring - hope it'll get even better!
so, tbh I liked this one more than 4x01 and I hope that now it'll get better and better haha
(tho was there literally like only one emergency this episode?)
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bambiesque · 1 year ago
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New thread for Eccleston!Doctor.
Warning: Rose is not one of my favourite characters so be aware I do get critcial.
Episode: Rose - Not a bad start to the new era. Some parts are way too serious and others are beyond ridiculous - so no change there then. Eccleston!Doctor is a good mix of fun and bastard.
Episode: The End of the World - I enjoyed the beginning and the end. There are times I think Rose is lovely and times I think she's insufferable. I think it works better if you treat the first two episodes as one long story.
Episode: The Unquiet Dead - A great, spooky ghost story with all round excellent performances from the whole cast. I like Rose in this one and not entirely because of the pretty dress.
Episode: Aliens of London / World War Three - I do love Jackie. She would have made a fantastic companion. Eccleston!Doctor is a complete bastard in this one. Penelope Wilton is way too good for this. Mickey and Jackie are the best things about this episode.
Episode: Dalek - I enjoyed the Dalek having to come to terms with emotion and choosing to stay true to its Dalekness. I don't really like the whole "last time lord" thing. The whole time war leaves me cold.
Episode: The Long Game - Anna Maxwelll Martin <3 I love her. The rest is a bit boring. Adam is as pointless as Kamelion.
Episode: Father's Day - I liked this one, mostly Shaun Dingwell and Camille Coduri. I don't for a second believe the Doctor would take anyone to watch their dad dying no matter how much they begged.
Episode: The Empty Child - The best episode of the season. A great balance of creepy and funny, excellent introduction for Jack. Nancy is incredible. No notes.
Episode: The Doctor Dances - I think what I like most about this is that there isn't a bad guy. It's a lovely story with a wonderful ending.
Episode: Boom Town - I can do without this love triangle (quuntangle?) stuff. I can also do without the Slitheen in general.
Episode: Bad Wolf - There is a quote in The West Wing that goes "When you use pop-culture references, your speech has a shelf life of twelve minutes." It's hard not to think of that when watching this. Outside of the games it's a lot better. Yay the Daleks are back!
Episode: The Parting of the Ways - "The Oncoming Storm" - please wait while I collect my eyeballs, they rolled right out of my head. I really did like Lynda; I wish we could have kept her. And so this is another story where the Doctor ends up doing not much in the end, except regenerating. Hello, Tennant!Doctor.
Eccleston!Doctor Era Round-up
I have a lot of issues with the Time War and wiping out the Time Lords - there's a lot more scope for stuff to do with them around after all. Eccleston!Doctor is a weird mix of deadly serious and very silly, swinging around wildly much like the CBaker!Doctor and McCoy!Doctor eras did, honestly. It's not one of the best or the worst.
Favourite Companion: Jack
Least favourite Companion: Adam
Favourite Serial: The Empty Child
Least Favourite Serial: The Long Game
Current Doctor standings
Davison
Pertwee
TBaker
CBaker
McCoy
Troughton
McGann
Eccleston
Hartnell
Current Top 10 Companions (no change Jack goes in at 25 and Rose at 27 out of 31)
Jo Grant
Tegan Jovanka
Barbara Wright
Vislor Turlough
Sarah Jane Smith
Nyssa of Traken
Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart
Leela
Romana II
Zoe
Unpopular fandom opinion time:
I don't like Rose Tyler.
I remember being pretty pleased with her when I watched the first new episode back in 2005 but that quickly disappeared. It's not Billie Piper's fault - she's a good actress and I loved her in the 50th. I've spent a long time wondering why I dislike her as much as I do, when I don't dislike any of the other New Who companions.
And, I think it comes down to the amount of importance the show itself places on her. In 60 years of Doctor Who, no companion was more or less important than any of the others, from the programme's own perspective. They come and they go - maybe the public loves them or hates them - but to the show and the Doctor, they are all the most important person. The Doctor doesn't love Jo more than Sarah Jane or Romana more than Adric. They all have different relationships - some are closer than others, but none are invaluable.
Which comes from the nature of the show itself. Doctor Who is based on a premise of change. Companions come and go. The Doctor and the Master regenerate. It can go on forever because that was written into it's lore from the first time someone wanted to leave.
For me personally, this makes it difficult to take romantic relationships between a being hundreds or thousands of years old and humanoids that live a hundred at most, seriously. Because as soon as you start saying "the Doctor is in love with this person" where do you go? They can't stay together forever, the companion will eventually have to leave and the Doctor will eventually have to regenerate.
That's not to say that I don't ship the Doctor with anyone - I do, with several different characters, I've commented on them in my posts - but it's something that for me works better in fanfiction than on screen.
Because I don't want love triangles where the Doctor gazes moonily at his companion when she goes to have dinner with her boyfriend. I don't want the Doctor treating his next companion like shit because he's still heartbroken over the last one.
So, try as I might, I can't like Rose Tyler, because to me she's not the most important character in the history of Doctor Who and the show's insistence that she is just makes my dislike everything about it.
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share-the-damn-bed · 2 years ago
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as much as it was great thinking about jonathan having fun and being chill with argyle (i'd like to think he had some stress-free moments before we see him again in S4), PLEASE DUFFERS DON'T CONTINUE TO DO HIM DIRTY. i worry that someone (nancy?) might blame jonathan for not being there in hawkins to "protect" nancy when a) have you met nancy she doesn't need protecting and b) have you met jonathan who is this new character you've made up? just stop with the steve/nancy garbage fire
Unpopular opinion time: I love everything about season 4 Jonathan. I even think this is his best look ever ( I LOVE IT, sue me). This is my favorite season for him (after season 1 of course. It goes 1, 4, ... 2,... ... 3). I really don't think his moments with Argyle at the start of season 4 are as "chill" as people are making them out to be. Jonathan is clearly stressed and admittedly in a nightmarish cycle of existential dread surrounding his future fed by the trust issues from his childhood (mostly surrounding his own relationship with his dad and his parents' marriage).
I think the 4x02 scene while playing golf was absolutely brilliant and one of the few (if only) scenes we have where Jonathan himself is shedding light on his own character development. (side note: I have always said it was weird for us to latch onto Jonathan's dream of going to NYU *since he was 6* when Joyce mentioned it in passing in season 1 and Jonathan has done nothing to additionally support this. I have also previously mentioned how hilarious it would be if Joyce mentioned this dream of his and his response was "mom, I was 6...")
Jonathan is literally self-medicating to avoid facing his future realities and sure that leads to some wonderful, funny scenes with Argyle, but I would not consider this all light and breezy.
Not to mention, as soon as Joyce mentions that she needs Jonathan to take care of Will, El, and Mike while she's in Alaska, he stops smoking and starts taking action. Jonathan hasn't been high since the dinner scene.
Jonathan in season 4 is the least passive he has been since season 1. He is taking an active role in moving the Cali plot forward. It was his idea to get pizza to escape from house arrest. Season 4 also gives rise to the return (and honestly the best version of) sassy Jonathan and we get to see a lot of his personality.
The only way in which I think Jonathan is being "done dirty" is that the Cali plot has substantially less screen time than the other plot threads. And, again, unpopular opinion, I found myself enjoying the Cali plot much more than Russia ( I found the Russia plot SO BORING) and the lab scenes with Eleven. Even during the Hawkins plots there were times where I was like "can we get back to Cali now? I miss them and want to know what they're doing."
As for worrying about people blaming Jonathan for not being there to protect Nancy... I don't think Nancy would ever think this (I think she may make a comment like "I wish you were here, I hated not having you here, it's so much easier with you here, it was so hard without you here, etc") and I think Nancy would shut down anyone who would make similar comments because you're right, she doesn't need protecting and that line of thinking is icky...
Regardless, if someone did make a comment about how he should have been there, (which if something bad happens he will probably blame himself because that's how he is) but he has a great excuse! Shit hit the fan in Lenora too. It's not like they're all having a great time. El got arrested and then sent to "super power camp" which they had to deal with, they (Mike, Will, Jonathan, and Argyle) survived a shoot out at their home and are now on the run from the military, they had to bury a dead body, and are now trying to rescue El from "super power camp" in the middle of Nevada. (Again, side note: I found it funny they all pronounced Nevada in a very non-midwestern way (imo as a native mid-westerner)).
And yes, stop with the garbage fire. Please. The more I think about it, the less sense it makes. So there better be SOME pay off.
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maybe-theres-hope · 3 years ago
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Hello!
001 911 lone star
002 Tarlos
003 TK and Carlos, please
Oh wow this will be a long one haha but thank you!! Okay here goes:
001: 911 LS
Favorite Character: TK. Yes, I'm projecting. Sue me.
Least Favorite Character: It hurts to say, bc I LOVE Billy Burke, but I absolutely cannot stand Billy lol. They could have done so much better with the character.
5 Favorite ships: Tarlos, Marjan/Nancy, Paul/more screen time, Mateo/stability, EMS 126/all the awards
Character I find most attractive: Well, like...pure aesthetic/the person should be a statue in the Smithsonian? Carlos. Hands down. But...person I would be DTF for instantly if they asked? Nancy.
Character I would marry: Nancy lol
Character I would be best friends with: Definitely TK. My boy and I are on the same wavelength most of the time.
A random thought: I love this fandom seriously
An unpopular opinion: I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I definitely cannot see/ship Marjan/Mateo. Like...idk. She seems more like his mom friend than anything. But that doesn't mean I don't respect people who ship it! Please don't come for me lol
My Canon OTP: If you have to ask you don't know me haha
My non-canon OTP: Marjan/Nancy with me in the middle
Most badass character: Tommy omfg queeeeen
Most epic villain: I'm still on the arsonist train lol
Pairing I'm not a fan of: Well, I already said what I said up there but another one is Owen/Gwen. Tbh it was obvious they didn't work and having Owen propose was like....it just rubbed me the wrong way. I'm glad she said no. The woman knows what she's about. Also she's still alive shhhhh.
Character I feel the writers screwed up: Well I said Billy already, but I'll also throw in Owen. I feel like the whiplash from S1 to S2 (re: parenting skills/habits) was like....too much to take. S3 has offered us absolutely nothing regarding parenting skills they've shared like one scene together like for real. I'll be honest the absence of the toxic masculinity angle in this father-son relationship in S1 was the reason I started watching.
Favorite Friendship: TK and Nancy. EMS chaos duo ftw.
Character I most identify with: TK. I'm am not in recovery or anything like that, but there are just so many things we have in common/habits we have that I just connect really well with him.
Character I wish I could be: Marjan...so cool. so scary. so awesome.
002: Tarlos
When I started shipping them: When Carlos asked TK to dance lol so adorable.
My thoughts: oh dear. Absolutely too many thoughts to put here. I love them lol.
What makes me happy about them: How real and....tangible the relationship feels? They're both flawed people and the writers aren't afraid to show that.
What makes me sad about them: Not much tbh. Can't think of anything.
Things done in fanfic that annoys me: Okay. Okay. hear me out. Top Energy vs Bottom Energy is definitely a thing (source: my multiple decades in the queer community and my own queer relationships) but like....that's a very vague thing that a lot of people NOT in the community don't get. And it's not explainable to people outside the community without sounding....borderline fetishy. You know what I mean. So the thing I hate in fanfic is when they choose to make one of them (99% of the time its TK) an uwu smol bean who needs to be coddled and taken care of, and it inevitably leads to effeminization that is so blatantly misogynistic it makes me nope out immediately when I see it. And I see it a lot. Idk. Let people be people without putting them in boxes. If you can't do queer identity justice, then don't do things like that at all. I'm not explaining this well at all, but idk. Anyway moving on.
Things I look for in fanfic: Omg I love getting together, enemies to lovers, and period aus. I will usually read anything within those parameters.
My wishlist: Does this mean what I want for them in canon? Definitely marriage and kids. They deserve all the happiness they want. But like. At a reasonable pace lol.
Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: may I direct you here
My happily ever after for them: See my wishlist lol
003: TK and Carlos
How I feel about this character: I love them both, but identify more with TK as I said above
Any/all people I ship romantically with this character: See above lol
My favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: For TK, I absolutely love his and Nancy's friendship, and I LOVE TK and Judd's brothers relationship. For Carlos, I do miss Michelle's relationship with him, but I could definitely see a deeper friendship forming between him and Grace. They were an amazing team!
My unpopular opinion about this character: Carlos - he's flawed. He has flaws. He is not perfect. I feel like this is way too unpopular an opinion lol. But it's what makes him interesting!! TK - he's not a horrible person. He's a person who tries to do better every day and he does deserve Carlos' love and affection. I also feel like this is too unpopular an opinion... Honestly if you live in a world where if someone fucks up once they are fucked for life, I don't want to ever be where you are. I have to believe that good people do bad things and they can learn from them and be better.
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: Carlos - I DEFINITELY want a Carlos begins omg I need it like I need air. TK - I wish we could get more of his relationship with Gwyn. Because she's still around and we can totally have that in future seasons definitely. Yep.
Favorite Friendship: Answered this up there!
My crossover ship: I do NOT ship them with anyone else lol
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