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The fact that Shadow Milk is a foil to Pure Vanilla but a parallel to White Lily will never not be funny to me. Like, Devsisters really looked at Pure Vanilla and cursed him with A Type and that type is Narrative Atom Bomb
#white lily cookie#shadow milk cookie#pure vanilla cookie#pureshadow#purelily#pureshadowlily#crk#was it casual when you wanted to understand him because your biggest failure (which you said yourself) was failing to understand her?#was it casual when you were forced to confront the corrupted version of someone you knew to be good but was driven to insanity by having#knowledge of the world without the power needed to save it#was it casual when you her and him are the only three cookies to ever use a specific kind of magic only practiced by the Witches themselves#I donât actually ship pureshadowlily but I feel like no matter what you shipâwhether thatâs pureshadow purelily or pureshadowlilyâyou have#to acknowledge the parallels between white lily and shadow milk#yknow#personally I ship pureshadow with former purelily. like. PV needed to make the mistakes he did with WL before he could ever be with SM#and I think if you ship purelily endgame you need PV to learn the lessons he learned from SM if heâs ever going to be with WL#anyways theyâre a neat trio#Iâm curious to see if Silent Salt will affect this
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I remember, when I just started learning English, being SO dumbstruck at the concept of missing someone like i couldnât comprehend what do yâall meant by âI miss YOU?????â Tf??? Wdym I miss you?? Youâre the one that I miss??? I know it makes sense to you guys but before I was just like WTF?? cuz in french we say TU me manques-> basically YOUR absence is making me miss you/ youâre missing FROM ME.
And saying I miss you was like saying Je te manque in french which is like saying âyou miss meâ instead of âI miss youâ
So I = Je, miss = manque, You= te
Oh so ->Je te manque? wrong! Tu me manques? Yes
And Tu = You, me (muh) manques = miss me (me is I in this context)
So does it means ->You miss me? NOPE! I miss you
See why I was losing my mind back then?
Tu me manques is I miss you
And itâs so mind blowing when you finally understand that french focuses on how the personâs absence is affecting you: you are the one suffering from the otherâs absence, TU me manques -> your absence is making me miss you. Or the fact that you are not here is making me miss you (thatâs how I explain it to myself lol)
But English focuses on how the speaker feel the personâs absence: I miss you -> I AM feeling your absence
I probably didnât explain it right cuz now that I understand it perfectly it kinda blurs in my head and itâs like wait why was this confusing already?? Both make perfect sense??? ugh but I hope i got my point across đđ
#random thoughts#like I literally say I miss you and it all spiraled lol#waffled chaos#free french lessons#I know English speakers learning french are facing the same issues lolol#french language#thereâs more details on Reddit for those that study french#donât worry if you get a headache and donât understand shit haha#iâve been there#just trust me#Itâll make sense after a while#youâll even get confused on your you werenât understanding in the first place
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I'm glad totk has no connection to the previous ganon (oot-onwards) because it would totally ruin him as a character.
Honestly I consider totk ganondorf separate even from botw, because I do love the idea of botw ganon being a completely self-dehumanized, seething, eldritch representation of this ageless grudge no one has any context for anymore, so he might as well be understood as a natural disaster or a vicious plague. I find this incredibly juicy!! Buuuut to me it only works within the context of a dozen other games building the ground up for this goopy, demonic, hateful incarnation with too many limbs and far too many angry eyes.
If you decide to connect BotW Ganon to TotK Ganondorf however.... like. I'm sorry, but. Sir, you are not this angry. You have zero reason to be anywhere near this level of rancor. You haven't even been stabbed, ever!!!! You never had your wish ripped out from under you!!!! You have never been forced to rot away in the void while fully aware of every agonizing second for centuries, not even a single time!!!! Rauru merely grounded you so you'd have your little power nap (:>), and then you woke up with renewed energy to topple down the other kid's sand castle just because it's fun to watch him cry. And honestly TotK Ganondorf does kind of feel like a toddler, gleeful to discover his own capacity for destruction for the first time. Which. I guess that could have been, something? I don't know, to me it's still pretty stupid and inconsistent honestly. But either way, that is not Dislocated Screeching Essence of a Mad Pig material.
TotK Ganondorf has no grudge, and as far as we know (which is insane!!!! this guy's core characterization is envy, yet he doesn't have this corrosive toxic energy at all in totk!!! he's far too happy to be here and break stuff just because, and like sir you are a grown man you've been a king for decades what are you so giddy aboutttt), the worse he had to suffer through in totk, as far as the game tells us, was a temporary humiliation. Which could absolutely be motivating for sure, but it feels very human and political and measured. Not "I will shred my own skin and forget my own name and suffer death a thousand times over just to show you all the depths of my hate" levels of fury. Again, to remove our familiarity to the character as players cheapens decades of buildup, and!!!!!!! anyway. Anyway.
anyway.
#asks#ganondorf#totk ganondorf#totk critical#when will my brain return from the imprisoning war...#thanks for the ask!!#yeah I had never like. taken in just how deeply un-ganondorf this ganondorf is.#his actions clumsily follow the blueprint but we see zero reasons to understand why he would even Want hyrule#we have enough to speculate on why he would want to backhand Rauru and teach him a lesson#by being like âbitch you though you were a god yet watch what happens when I take your wife's little jewlery oh noooooâ#that I follow#but that's just standing your ground very firmly#that's not âoughhhhh I wanttttttt this thingggggg I want it sssssooo muchhhhhhâ it's not the same energy at all!!!!#totk ganondorf doesn't even seethe.... he doesn't even Yearn....#like his gerudo kingdom looks good! it looks mighty fine!!! why do you want this other new little guy instead of crushing it to dust#and therefore establish that Your kingdom is so much cooler and better and stronger and more hardcore#incomprehensible giddy toddler reddit trolll meme man.......... dressed like an ancient warlord and fighting with perfect form........#this iteration is such a mess like Pick One Characterization!!!!!!!! aaa#sorry I got totk frustration fever again
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I was thinking about Cas's little sarcastic dig in Family Matters here ("Of course. Your problems always come first.")
Sam, and especially Dean, donât want to be treated like theyâre being babysat by Cas, yet in the early days, they often hope Cas will be endlessly available, invincible, and strong.
(And it's complicated because... compared to them, Cas kinda IS!!!)
Cas, for his part, occupies a complicated space for them. While he is given room to be vulnerable at times, heâs also relied on to be everything at once: Dean's partner in times of trouble, someone who will "be there when Sam calls" and "tear the attic up for Sam," all while shouldering cosmic battles.
The irony is even deeper when Cas gets referred to as "a child" or "a baby in a trench coat"âyet his strength, sacrifice, and loyalty are counted on without question.
(Cas is often goaded into being stronger, of course, because Dean is scared and needs that strength from Cas more than Dean needs it from anyone else, even if Dean doesn't understand why that is. And even if Cas doesn't catch everything in those references, Cas can't help but FEEL that expectation.)
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BY ANYWAY, BOBBY. In Weekend at Bobby's, Bobby is SOOooooo parent-coded in this episode in a way that kinda parallels Cas in s6.
It's an off-key parallel, but both Bobby and Cas are expected to be there. Bobby without "selfish" complaint, Cas without visible weakness.
Their struggles often go unnoticed unless voiced outrightâsomething Bobby, in true crusty Bobby fashion, has no prob doing in Weekend at Bobbyâs:
INT. BOBBYâS HOUSE â NIGHT BOBBY: I â I hear you, son. I â it just ainât a good time. DEAN (over the phone): Yeah, okay. You know what â Forget it. I mean I'm baring my soul like a freaking girl here and, uh âAnd you've got stuff to do. So that is â that's fine. That's fine but, seriously, a little selfish. Not all about you. [Bobby gets angry and leans forward.]
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Dean is going through a LOT, but it's funny how like a child he comes off here. He's spinning out, and he has "no one to talk to," and Bobby's his DAD!
Dean invokes his own emotions like "baring his soul," and is clearly taken aback when Bobby isn't immediately receptive. It shows how Dean expects Bobby to always be there, without question, no matter what Bobby might be dealing with.
Thatâs classic "invincible parent" territory: the idea that their needs are secondary, or even non-existent.
(Aside// This is sometimes a bit how Sam can treat Dean throughout the run of the series, and how both boys occasionally treat Cas in s6).
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And then Bobby tears them a new one!!! :D Yay!!! It's a real family moment and I LOVE IT:
DEAN (putting Bobby on speaker after Bobby tells him to go get Sam): You're on speaker, Bobby. BOBBY: Sam. Dean. love you like my own. I do. But sometimes [Bobby pauses and takes a long drink.] Sometimes⌠You two are the whiniest, most self-absorbed sons of bitches I ever met! I'm selfish? Me? I do everything for you! Everything! You need some lores scrounged up â You need your asses pulled out of the fire âYou need someone to bitch to about each other â [Sam looks at Dean, puzzled.] BOBBY (over the phone): You call me and I come through â Every damn time! And what do I get for it?Jack with a side of squat! DEAN: Bobby â BOBBY: Do I sound like I'm done? Now look. I know you've got issues. God knows I know. But I got a news flash for you. You ain't the center of the universe! Now, it may have slipped your mind âŚthat Crowley owns my soul! And the meter is running! And I will be damned if I'm going to sit around âAnd â and be damned! So how about you two sack up and help me for once? Dean looks very humble and Sam calm. SAM: Bobby, all â all you got to do is ask. DEAN: Anything you need... we're there.
Hits like a tired, overlooked parent.
He reminds them he gets nothing in return from them, which is a HUGE call out to how invisible and thankless his role as caretaker has become.
Bobbyâs "sack up and help me for once" is both a plea and a challenge, demanding they grow up and recognize that he, too, is vulnerable and needs support.
It's the parent figure finally voicing the toll of always being strongâfor once, asking to be seen.
Dean especially is humbled here. He's been the caretaker for his family, so he gets it immediately.
How hard he was leaning on Bobby.
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Aside/// This season, Dean's actual support group is small, maybe even consists of just Bobby and Cas. Dean is short on "Dean understanders" this season; that is, he's short on people who see his core experience as not merely a brother, but an actual *pseudo-parent. Dean is a parent of Sam Winchester: and Sam is a complicated, apocalyptic-torn person who's often saddled with shouldering waaaay too much cosmic responsibility...
...which in turn has Dean shouldering too much responsibility too!
So when it comes to Bobby and Cas, Dean puts what he can't take on them! His family!
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But unlike Bobby, Cas doesn't ask for help.
Which... it's complicated. (And very human.)
For starters, thanks to his upbringing, Cas WANTS to be strong. He thrives and is comfortable being that. Second, there are definitely little ways Cas gets the not-so-coded message that it's bad to be weak, even if those weren't the messages Dean intended to send. (Dean is desperate for everyone to be okay, and he needs someone to want to shoulder the real, complete Dean, with all his duties and complications. And for some reason, subconsciously, Dean wants that someone... to be Cas.)
Regardless, lines like "Babies whine" and "Without your powers" dig a lot deeper than intended for Cas, because Dean didn't have the full scope of the angelic war or Cas's fears about Raphael. And even when Dean DID get glimpses of that, it didn't yield the full story.
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For his part, Cas is keeping Sam and Dean at arm's length, trying to place them in a "these are my charges to protect" role.
Bu unlike with Bobby, who Dean firmly places in a parental role, something is trying to FUNDAMENTALLY shift between Cas and Dean.
They often find themselves eye-to-eye in the kitchen, making decisions together in a way that feels imho very spousal, creating a dynamic where Dean doesnât quite know how to navigate this growing sense of wanting to be an equal partner with Cas.
So you get their weird push-pull power struggle between them, sniping and bitching, mirroring what happens in real-life couples early in the relationship when responsibilities are heavy and scary. It's this swirling mix of "Oh shit, I don't know what to do! And YOU don't know what to do! What do WE DO?!" And "You are such a baby / be careful you idiot / be stronger plz for the love of god"
But yeah.
So... Cas holds himself in the role of an ANGEL, remaining largely invisible throughout the season and trying his best to keep his struggles INVISIBLE too, including the war he's fighting on humanity's behalf. Cas prefers that. From a distance. Emotions are scary af; he even calls them CRIPPLING in Mommy Dearest.
(Aside///Call-forward to Maryâs: "I was trying to make things right. Just from a distance, because... being here with you was too hard. Seeing what I'd done to you and to Sam, I..." /// Mary was ashamed of her deal; And Cas was ashamed of his brothers, of angelicity itself, of what they KEEP doing to humanity.)
Anyway, Dean doesnât quite know how to handle their strange bond, that longing, that closeness, especially as Cas insists on remaining emotionally and physically distant, trying to handle a war they can't even see.
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As for Bobby and Cas...
While they have their moments of pushback (Bobbyâs explosion in Weekend at Bobbyâs, Casâs barbed sarcasm in Family Matters), and it definitely reveals the strain theyâre under...
...it often also works to underscore just how invisible their labor has become to the very people they love.
But while Dean begins to grow up enough to see and name Bobby's sacrifices, his understanding of Cas's struggle is murkier, tangled up in pride, love, and the deep, unspoken hope that Cas will always be strong enough for both of them. (Save-me-save-US-but-let-me-help-you.)
I think the thing I love about it all⌠is the dualistic (subconscious) desire for Cas to make everything okay versus the worry for Cas not to shoulder these burdens alone. It's SOOOOO! HNNNNNnNNnngg. It's very real.
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EDIT DISCLAIMER: This wasn't exactly the point of this post (Bobby and Cas feeling misunderstood/underappreciated), but for completionist's sake:
Dean's grief is attenuated by the experience of being a "pseudo-parent," and definitely a caretaker in the context of "cosmic-inflicted illness," and that's a riptide that runs through season 6 in a big way. Dean needs the people he loves to SEE this aspect of his life in order to feel understood.
That's what 12x22 is all about. The thread from season 6 to season 12 is surprisingly thick! That's why this:
prefaces this: BEING SEEN
It's not a question of how fair or unfair it is, or if he "should be" or "shouldn't be" "a parent." It's about those very real efforts being seen and understood by those around him, including the grief and continued sense of responsibility this has wrought under worsening and frankly, incredibly unfair cosmic circumstances.
#cas stuff#tfw family dynamics#the difficult job of caretaking#spn 6x04#spn 6x07#spn family matters#spn weekend at bobby's#i love season 6 GOD#also still thinking about lisa as a tragic dean misunderstander re: comparing sam to her sister and not to ben#it's not a shortcoming it's simply a failure to understand the nature of dean's grief after a year and it's so lovely really#also cas's sass is legend: your problems always come first#for dean it's the nature of growing up and learning to see and BE SEEN#or the nature of a grownup friendship becoming a grownup relationship too if you squint#dean and cas aren't playing house... THEY ARE A HOUSE#even in free to be you and me#they squat in a house together that is filled with new growth#they can't help but be a house even when no home is present#and THAT'S the scary thing#i also love the lesson here for cas bobby that you do kinda have to let ppl know when you're suffering bc ppl are oblivious sometimes lol#everyone's got a lot of probs and your friends WILL be there if only you ask#sobbing - this is an issue i am VERY cas-coded btw#i like to be pretend invincible and i DEFINITELY don't want to ask for the help i need#caretaker fatigue is real and very VERY isolating which works well here too i think
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the most annoying thing about digging through the The Americans tag is the oh-so-progressive people there complaining about how the show is actually failing to portray Marxist-Leninist theory correctly đ
like did you really come to a US drama series expecting a dissection of the fine points of Communist theory. you will note the conspicuous absence of "inspired by real events" at the beginning of the episodes. you will notice also the immense focus on a small cluster of characters and perhaps, eventually, reach the understanding that this is a story examining relationships that it has chosen to set in the backdrop of the late Cold War. nobody ever claimed accuracy here and more importantly nobody involved with this show ever claimed it was politically revolutionary or instructional. the showrunners literally said it was "basically a show about a marriage" and the spy stuff is a metaphor. what's not clicking.
#and i get wanting stories like that!#but um. have you considered. looking at literature from literally any former communist country for that#like by authors and for audiences who actually lived in that reality? and were steeped in the theory (or their gvmt's interpretation of it)#instead of picking up us entertainment that had a completely different focus in mind and then complaining#like idk. maybe read bulgakov's the master and margarita. christa wolf. wolf biermann. stefan heym's schwarzenberg (if you read German)#there's probably a bazillion others just LOOK#this is the 'coming to marvel content and complaining it's not queer enough' thing all over again. fucking DUH#maybe look for stories that actually were written with this topic in mind by the author and for the audience#not to say that both of these things SHOULD not be included into mainstream media but they simply will not be#and it is unproductive to just keep complaining and never looking elsewhere jesus christ#and also they DID do a lot of due diligence. like it's not a history lesson by a long stretch but it's also not as glaringly bullshit#as most other us media that features literally any russian character#congratulations on understanding that the us does not use the term communist correctly almost ever!#now if you could use that to educate your peers instead of nitpicking a 2010s drama đ#the americans
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Hi!! I love this series so much, and as someone who hasnât really drawn since they were a kid but wants to start as a hobby, do you have any advice for sort of learning to doodle on paper and get better at it? I want to start but I donât really know how/where
The most important step in getting better at any skill is Persistence and Consistency. Practice and keep practicing! The best way to do that is to keep it fun! Picking a project helps generate ideas (e.g. drawing PokĂŠmon, or characters from a series you like). There are also a ton of monthly prompt lists out there!
I also highly recommend scheduling in a 'drawing/practice' time in your day. For me, I started with 30-60 min before bed (bonus: its a good 'no screentime' activity), and the habit took root there.
There are a lot of 'technical' things to study but find the fun first. At a certain point you will discover you've hit a wall, and have a specific aspect/goal you want to target (colour theory, anatomy, lighting, comic layout). Then it's time to go looking for resources.
Once you have the habit and some goals, go collect some inspiration! Find people who inspire you and study their work!
Another little 'art skill builder' I recommend is the Shrimp Method! Only if you find technical challenges like this fun though (Example of one of my studies below)
#art faqs#TL;DR: Step 1 is 'Just start drawing'. Step 2 is 'Keep on drawing'. Step 3 is 'Hit a wall and start studying only as much as you want'#Step 4: keep it fun and keep drawing.#I think this is where artists who start young have the advantage over adult learners#because adults try to tackle art at the technical point first!#AND THAT JUST FEELS LIKE A CHORE!!#When I got into piano & string instruments I started by just doodling around. Banging out the tunes and experimenting.#The low pressure made it fun! I started lessons because I wanted to learn more!#I personally own quite a few art textbooks! Some are workbook/prompt-based (to help me get started)#and some are actual textbooks! But I certainly didn't start by reading a textbook.#I *highly* recommend Scott McCloud's 'understanding comics' for anyone trying to get into comics#its also a comic in of itself so its a fun read! It breaks down a lot of the key aspects of what's in a comic.#And tbh you don"t HAVE to trace for the shrimp method to work. Just take the time to do a study of a subject!#Good luck on your art journey! B*)
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and listen. old men yaoi aside. wouldnt de-ageing snake like. defeat the point
#listen ive seen a pretty interesting disability reading about mgs4#and even if you dont want to subscribe to that reading like. isnt the whole point#that his life is no longer valued only by his usefulness and his ability...#that he can accept he doesnt HAVE to be the legendary solid snake for his life to mean something#and that he doesnt have to be able to do the things he used to do to be loved and to live life...#and then if you DO like the disability interpretation#then. like. de-ageing him after all that feels like the equivalent of when they magically heal a characters disability at the end of a movi#'ok now that he learned his lesson we can give him some of his ability back <3' actually... lets not#if anything the canon of letting him die directly afterward might even be the cowards route of writing LMAO like saying one thing#but doing another. youre SAYING he can rest and can live out the rest of his life. but youre SHOWING that he stops being valuable (to us)#if hes not solid snake. and on one hand yeah hes not exactly gonna be the protagonist of a game anymore. but to KILL him off?? Man#mgs4 spoilers#just in. case. lmao. i assume knowing solid snake dies is common knowledge but idk#SO YEAH I LOVE WHEN YOU MAKE HIM LIVE I DONT LOVE WHEN YOU JUST MAKE HIM YOUNG AGAIN. THANK YOU!#huge disclaimer. i never finished mgs4 LMAO its the first game i played but i didnt know/care abt the franchise and i sucked at it#so i never finished it. Obviously once im able ill go back and actually play it. once i play mgs3#if u have done the de-ageing thing i am not attacking u. i Understand. i love plenty of fanwork where thats central#but please.. i want to see even a little bit. of if that didnt happen but the ageing still slowed and he got to live longer#though also the things ive heard abt mgs4 lmao.. if im not seeing this (old snake+otacon) because ppl hate the game thats valid too LMAOOOO
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Like he just looks so much happier talking in Welsh at this point
#absolutely no opinion on anything this man has done after like. 2003 or something so idk if there's still such a difference#but he legitimately sounds so much more normal and less stilted here than in any english-language things i've seen#also there's an uwch 2 lesson about this clip lol. should i do it vote now on your phones#i can understand mayyyyybe like 30-50%. like enough to get an idea of what's going on but not enough to get the details#so maybe i should do the lesson :') i don't think i'm uwch 2 i'm like canolradd/uwch 1 at most#this is 100% a full derailment you're getting a direct image into the processes of my brain at 1am#perce rambles
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funniest thing ive learned (and that's coming from someone who had debilitating perfectionist tendencies) is that making your own mistakes is actually thrilling and really fun because it really feels like gaining xp and leveling up but irl. like ah shit i see. well i'll know that's a soak marker next time kinda deal
#it's like. making your own mistakes and then examining where you went wrong and the mechanism of it is THE ultimate personalized lesson plan#a mistake is an opportunity to really understand for yourself the framework / laws of the art in question#if you get it right every time / from the very beginning then you learn Nothing#you just exist. like a fish in water. you don't really understand the rules and the reasons for anything#this is why i ended up being happy i (-gets sniped before finishing the sentence)#not to sound like an annoying therapist-adjacent but mistakes and the ability to make them for yourself really are a gift#also it does not have to be Painful like i think the thing i learned most is that you do not HAVE to extra-worry and harm yourself#and shame yourself after making a mistake because actual understanding comes with clarity of mind#and you can't make a sound judgement when your mind is clouded by horrible amounts of shame and guilt etc#in fact it is more likely to make you double down and dig your heels in and make the mistake So Much Worse#this is something i learned thanks to 1) being forsaken by god and 2) getting into candlemaking#extra relevant now that i'm getting into music again
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it's always interesting to talk to my sister, because we can vivisect every single member of our family and their psychology, the dynamics that radiate out from our parents, our grandparents; how it has affected our brothers, parents, aunts and uncles, and even friends, partners....
but when it comes to us---two members of said family, affected by the same dynamics and psychology---we are very carefully silent.
#I do sincerely like talking to her. she's the person I understand least in the world!#with non-family you can chalk up your differences to a million different things#different upbringing; different expectations; different pressures; different dynamics; different literal people involved#but I was alive when my sister was born. I have been here for her whole entire life.#I know her mom and dad. her siblings. I remember every house she's lived in (and some she doesn't remember)#and yet despite all these similarities; everything we share#she is a black box to me. we went through extremely similar things with the same people just a couple years apart#and reacted very differently; took wildly divergent lessons from those events#the sense of the alien is more profound with her because we should be similar and often we're not.#(similarly to the posts about ''you need to get out of the house'' I make this same post every once in a while#I'm perpetually in ''makes no sense. compels me though.'' mode when it comes to my sister.)#celestial emporium of benevolent knowledge
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Oh Polish my beloved, it is such a joy to be speaking you again <3
#Czech too but it's different#as much as I love how czech touches every consonant with a glove#it cannot compare to saying a word that uses four different ways of saying 'sh'#also my polish teacher does a very strange thing in German that I never have heard before except I have#BC it's a thing that Yiddish does#like basically stressed 'e' becomes 'ej' in her speech#(at least I think it's stressed 'e')#and ordinarily I'd think#that it's a +atr or a length thing but it's not#like if it was +atr or length (which i think in this case are the same in German) it would be like#'well of course that thing is basically palatalised and that's a thing polish does when the the next consonant is palatalised (sometimes)#'#like it's just before stops#or something like that#but like every stressed 'e'? girl idk very odd. where did you learn this I need to understand you#see this is why you give monolingual language courses to me bc otherwise you are risking me picking apart your accent based#on your native language and common helpers given to German learners#and then I get occupied with that instead of focussing on the lesson
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finding a character that grates against your nerves and eventually thinking, well, that's not fair, you haven't done anything; why do i dislike you? and then you dwell on this for a while and discover 'oh! you are like me when i was younger' and decide well, i'll simply learn how to love the both of you. power in this.
#N posts stuff#'what are you talking about?' fuck if i know.#but also i'm talking about penny from 'the 7' -- nosy little control freak determined to find Some foothold into Every conversation#it's interesting bc sometimes when i watch i'm like 'this character is played on the Border of metagaming' but the more i think abuot it#the less it Feels like metagaming bc penny Genuinely seems Exactly like the kind of person who just Is That Determined to be#some level of involved in Every situation; 'yeah i know that show you were in' 'Yeah i was listening into this scene from a different hall'#equal parts her being a Rogue character to her core AND her borderline pathological need for control in Every situation#w/ None of the social grace needed to temper this impulse into something more broadly 'palatable' -> very autistic to me in a way#'i don't Get It but if i'm Always Right then that's good bc it's Bad to be Wrong so i just have to Know Everything so that i'm Never Wrong'#or like 'no i don't understand the Rules right but if i can just Be In Charge of the Situation at all times then i'm the one domineering#where this is going and how it unfolds; like if i'm in charge i understand That at least so i will just Always be in charge'#and sometimes this starts fights with your friends and they call you a freak for it and you're like 'hm. i don't know what's going on#but if You said it and You Get People then you must be right so. i will alter this immediately' but penny doesn't have that interaction#because her friends are just like 'yeah i love you And that batshit way of interacting with the world that you embody' and there is a#temptation of sorts to be like 'penny you HAVE to stop that; you NEED to learn that lesson please' but then like. hm. does she?#much to think about. i don't interact w/ people enough anymore for this to impact my interactions with real people lol#but it Is interesting to peel apart a fictional character and find a Younger You in there. i can change how i think about Them at least
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Just a little clarification. Because a lot of 'comprehensible input' study materials and advice-giving methods market themselves as 'learning a language like a child'
Comprehensible Input Lessons specifically are lessons designed to be VERY understandable using pictures and gestures, so that no translations are needed for the student to understand what is being taught. These lessons ARE in regular classrooms, are in many immersion class programs, are in many language tutoring centers, and they're online made by lots of tutors and teachers. They're just a type of lesson. They don't require you to specifically do anything 'like a child.' They only require the student to do something besides follow the lesson itself, if the specific teacher or program is telling you X is a requirement! Anyone can use these kinds of lessons. Any teacher can utilize these lessons, if they're trying to make their lessons as understandable to students as possible - these lessons are useful when students don't speak the same native language so every student can understand the material, and for supplementing lessons that use translations (by giving the students VISUAL context along with translations). TPRS Teaching Proficency through Reading and Storytelling is one example of this type of lesson, often TPRS uses some amount of translations and a lot of visual context.
Comprehensible input GENERALLY is just... material you can comprehend. That's it. Material you can generally understand the meaning of. Comprehensible input would be any graded reader or textbook dialogue that you as a student can understand the meaning of by reading, any conversation you have in the target language you can understand, any show you can understand, any lesson the teacher does IN the target language that you can understand. As you learn more of the target language, obviously the amount of input that is comprehensible (that you understand) increases. That's it. That's all comprehensible input is. It's a very broad category. It does NOT require you to think or do things in a certain way to be 'comprehensible input,' it's just engaging in some situation or engaging with some material you understand. Comprehensible input lessons specifically are a TYPE of comprehensible input, designed by teachers and tutors to be extremely understandable to learners of various levels. Similar to how graded readers are made to be VERY understandable to the learners at the level the graded reader is designed for. But comprehensible input lessons and graded readers are NOT the only kind of comprehensible input. So are cartoons you understand, fanfictions you read and understand, people talking to you where they gesture and you understand what they're trying to convey, people who talk and don't gesture but you still understand because you know enough things to understand them, etc.
Comprehensible Input Learning Programs - these are the only things that MAY tell you to 'learn like a child.' It depends on the learning program, and the teacher's instructions. These Learning Programs typically are made up of teachers providing a lot of Comprehensible Input Lessons, directions on how they want the student to study/think/engage with the lessons provided, and directions to engage with other experiences the student understands in the target language (which will increase as the student learns more).
If you are using Dreaming Spanish and following Pablo's directions completely, then you'll study the Comprehensible Input Lessons on his website in the way he recommends. So when he says no translating in your head, no reading about translations and explanations, you follow his directions. It's his teaching program, and if he says not to do those things, then you follow his directions if you've chosen to follow the teaching program as directed. The rules Pablo gives are not required to learn from the material, they are the requirements to follow his teaching program as directed and get the results he's expecting the program to provide students. He can't guarantee students will get the same results if they vary from his directions. There are many people who use the Comprehensible Input Lessons posted on dreamingspanish.com without following Pablo's directions. That's also fine. The directions to learn a certain way, to do certain things, are not required to 'use' comprehensible input... everything you understand, is comprehensible input. You can engage with it however you like, and you will learn from the experience, because you understand the experience.
ALG is another example of a comprehensible input learning program: comprehensible input learning programs generally are structured with teachers providing Comprehensible Input Lessons specifically, encouraging students to seek out other comprehensible input experiences - experiences the student understands in the target language (which will become easier as the student understands more), and for students to follow the program's directions.
Alice Ayel's Lessons for French also follow this structure: if you pay for her website's lessons, she gives directions on how she wants students to engage with the Comprehensible Input Lessons, and the student is expected to do the Comprehensible Input Lessons.
If you are not specifically deciding to follow a Learning Program, you don't have to avoid thinking about the target language, avoid translations, or avoid grammar explanations. Those are just directions some Learning Programs give students, and you can choose to follow if you're doing that Learning Program and want to follow the teacher's directions.
You can also just use Comprehensible Input Lessons as a tool, like any other lessons or resources. And comprehensible input in general is just... experiences and materials you understand. You can engage with comprehensible input however you want, you will eventually run into comprehensible input (stuff you understand) as you learn more and understand more. Textbooks include comprehensible input - assuming you are studying the material previously presented. Graded Readers are comprehensible input - assuming you're the language level the graded reader is recommended for. Classes often have comprehensible input moments - moments the teacher says stuff you understand, because it's stuff you've learned. Some teachers do Comprehensible Input Lessons specifically - using minimal translations and a lot of gestures and pictures. Some teachers do TPRS. Some teachers eventually ask you to read novels, or watch shows, in the target language, and as you understand novels and shows those count as comprehensible input. Every conversation you participate in the target language and understand, is comprehensible input.
#rant#comprehensible input#i just.... get really exhausted that in recent months#ive really seen a lot of people think that to use 'comprehensible input lessons' they HAVE to ignore translations and explanations#no - you can use comprehensible input lessons if you want to. period. its just like using graded readers. you just CAN use them if you'd#like. or i see a lot of people saying you can't learn by watching shows and reading novels unless you're avoiding translations/explanations#.... yes you can. you can use 'comprehensible input' generally - as in things you understand - as ANY learner!#all classroom learners ALSO learn using comprehensible input (general term for category)#all learners in GENERAL eventually use comprehensible input! its just experiences/materials/etc they can understand! that's it! that's al#all it is!!!!!! you can think about stuff you understand and engage with it HOWEVER you want.#it really depends on how you personally are studying. what directions your teacher gave you. and what you personally have decided to do as#you engage with the materials/experiences you understand.
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#Parents should have a lesson on how to not make their child feel like a useless underachieving piece of shit#Like they expect us to respect them but if you were not my parents and I had an obligation to you for keeping me alive for some reason#I would litr have left so long ago#I don't understand how you can make a child and then be ok with jus putting them down for the rest of your life and never see good in them#like what is the point when we both know I'm faking my respect to you is it rly worth me getting good grades or wtv if I truly just hate yo#Dont get me wrong i try not to hate but every time I'm like ok fine I can live with this you mess up and I'm back where I fucking started#You're so arrogant and full of yourself you cant see past your own hands at what you're doing wrong in half the parenting decisions you mak#and you won't hear it from anyone else either because you believe you are god and just never wrong#give me a fucking break
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i am really never going to understand why people post "shifting antis dni" in the astral projection tag. "here practice that constantly gets appropriated by us and used as a weird justification for a new set of beliefs that aren't really based in the same reality you work with, and that also gets completely misunderstood by our community because we don't care to understand what you do and just pretend we know it's what we do like christians saying other religions worship the christian god, have a post! Also dni if you don't like our practice that has nothing to do with the one whose tag we just shoved this into"
if you're not astral projecting don't put shit in the ap tag. if you don't even know the difference between AP and RS I dont think your opinion holds enough weight to counter the pushback against flooding a separate practice's tag with "if you dont like the practice I'm talking about in your tags dni"
#I mean on the other hand I sure am Not Interacting my god#Im not of the opinion RS isnt a thing. I know its a thing - its a complex programming of mental spaces that branches off of#actually. I wont say it branches off things. Its its own thing like autovisions dreams mindspaces and other simulations - but it is#ultimately mindwalking - or whatever term someone else would want to use I just coined that for myself. It's travelling and projecting#into the Mental Realm. which is. explicitly. not the Astral realm. It's still a thing! It's not lucid dreaming or imagination. Very much th#early stages of it and experiences of those who cant programme the reactive mental into settling are gonna be lucid dreams and#imagination - just like what happens when youre not good at AP. but like. it's. a fucking. separate practice#and i do not understand flooding tags that arent what youre talking about and then saying ''dni if you dont like what im talking about''#like yeah theres an element of ''dont blame people for how others treat them'' - its not a case of ''you piss people off and then expect#them to not hate you?'' its explicitly a case of... you are continuously misunderstanding AP and using it as a backing#for your own practices and mixing up the two showing you have fucking No idea what youre doing with AP... so how else are we#supposed to take RS other than ''its a complete misunderstanding of AP and clearly it isnt even developed enough as a practice nor#based on enough truth to have its practitioners have the slightest clue about off-plane and OOB practices... if this is what RSers think of#the world and how it works and this is the depths of their understanding of it I cant support Shifting as anything more than#fantasy with vague references to established practices used incorrectly as justification''#~abyssal murmurs#like. tldr. youre putting it in the way of a tonne fo Anti Shifters because a) youre putting it in the tags of an art your art steals#justification from and chronically chooses to misunderstand and walks all over and b) you're showing a complete disrespect to the#practice of AP by posting this in the tags showing that your ''information'' and ''teaching'' is so misinformed you think AP and RS#are the same thing... so of course people are going to see that and think negatively of your practice. Not out of spite - but as a reaction#in the way of you are showing us that your practice is shallow and misunderstood#Look! If i walk into a jewish theology lesson and the speaker is convinced christianity and judaism are the same religion#to the point that when they post on social media they tag both when they talk about either... it looks like that speaker is clueless if the#cant even getthe basics of ''So what is it that I'm teaching about?'' answered right. If you cant even define the boundaries#of your practice as ''this is our practice this isnt'' then why is anyone going to think what youre teaching is real and grounded#and worth listening to and anything more than a crock of shite based on sounding mystical and Love and Light and freeing#at the cost of turning your mind off to just Believe what youre doing is grounded outside the mental??? why would people NOT#see these posts and BECOME antis
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