#I like bringing up those six months of cancellation hell bc I want people to understand the real consequences it had on my mental health

[namtanlovesfilm]

Why do you always put "pls dont reblog" on the posts about your videos?

bc I created my channel a few months after three blogs on here led a campaign of mass cancellation of me which left me very traumatized (so much so that even today I never look at my dash anymore & don't really seek to socialize in the fandom, thankfully some people still come to me so I do still have friends tho) and so when I created my channel, it took me six months to start sharing my vids on here. the thing is though that I didn't want my blog & my channel to be linked just in case there ever was a cancellation campaign happening on my tumblr, so that's why. now though, I don't really care if they're linked together or not, but I kinda just keep the please don't reblog by habit. you'll be surprised to learn though that it doesn't stop many people from still reblogging my vids lmao

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[janiedean]

Same anon as before -first off I don't give a rat's ass about specific movies like Ghost in the Shell, and *cultural appropriation* is not what I talked about so why do you even bring that up in response to my ask? And I personally DO support shows/movies with good Asian-American roles, but they're SO FEW. You can't argue that 'OMG THEY EXIST CHILLAX' because one role versus two thousand roles is not representation. My problem is with taking roles and representation away not cultural approp.

ALSO FYI -I'm NOT American *shocked gasp* so please quit with your 'lol us-centrism'. I'm fed up with whitewashing, I agree with you on ALL THE POINTS ABOUT CULTURAL APPROPRIATION NOT FITTING INTO THESE SPECIFIC ISSUES, but you still made it all about that when I only talked about the fact that the reason people are upset is NOT bc of c.a. but because of it pushing away non-white actors which is a huge problem in America (and other places). I don't want a fight and never brought up c.a. -YOU did Also, attacking me for saying 'Japanese natives doesn’t care because it doesn’t affect them and their careers' is hypocritical as fuck since the only reason I brought that up is bc of ALL THE POSTS ON YOUR PAGE saying exactly that -'LOL Japanese people don't care about white actors taking these roles, so why should Japanese-Americans lololoool?' I wanted to respond to that by stating exactly WHY that was, but you decided to throw a fit about it and make it something entirely different. Thanks.

... wow. anon I’ve sat over this for hours because I’m honestly too tired for this but congrats, I’m currently watching the current italian edition of kitchen nightmares and replicating the expressions of the host.

anyway.

I don't give a rat's ass about specific movies like G*host in the Shell, and *cultural appropriation* is not what I talked about so why do you even bring that up in response to my ask

ah okay, and someone asked me about g*host in the shell yesterday, you send me an anon ask three hours later without specifying it was about something else, how the hell am I supposed to guess it was not about it? never mind that all the conversation re the topic on tumblr the last six months has been 90% g*host in the shell and 10% i*ron fist sooooo. guys idk if you mistook me for doctor strange or something but I don’t read minds. also ‘cultural appropriation’ is literally brought up everywhere whenever discussing whitewashing in movies. it goes hand in hand. do you even browse this fucking website or not? because guess what, that’s how the conversation on here goes. it’s always whitewashing + cultural appropriation. always. always. I bring it up because it’s fucking relevant.

never mind that just the idea ‘we don’t care if the japanese don’t mind americans playing japanese characters because it’s damaging to us’ is inherently appropriative.

And I personally DO support shows/movies with good Asian-American roles, but they're SO FEW.

idk, I listed the first five that came to mind but there’s more of them. also I don’t particularly care whether you do (I also do btw), I care that most people don’t, so going like ‘japanese americans or chinese americans are damaged by bad representation’ when people in general don’t care about those shows or throw the asian characters under the bus and it’s always complaining about ONE thing vocally (ie scarjo or finn j0nes) rather than promoting shows that have asian characters (have I ever seen any post promoting fresh off the boat in my life? nah I just know from three gifsets reblogged by europeans). like, if someone complains and then doesn’t support, which is the destiny of 90% of the shit discussed on tumblr since everything I watch with minorities that’s done well gets ignored or canceled. aha. there won’t be more if people complain about everything rather than watching it. without even going into asian americans... people wanted the peggy carter show for years, they got it, they complained about lack of nonwhite characters and din’t watch it, in S2 they did what fandom wanted and quality plummeted (I couldn’t even finish it) and it didn’t get renewed. it’s exactly the same story. you can’t expect majors to make more shows with asian characters if whenever they make them they tank. it’s not the point that there’s little of them. it’s that you will never have more of them if you don’t watch what little there is as imperfect as it is.

like, it’s basic capitalism. it’s the principle of demand/offer. if you demand and they offer but you don’t take what they offer then they won’t offer, if they know they’ll make sure cash off white actors. and you might not be the problem but the majority of people complaining about this shit who then doesn’t put their money where their mouth is is a problem. amazing, innit?

You can't argue that 'OMG THEY EXIST CHILLAX' because one role versus two thousand roles is not representation.

I can argue that if you watch that one role vs two thousand and you make the producers know that it’s a winning strategy then it’s going to become five roles every thousand and then ten every thousand and so on. if you don’t support what you have then you can’t complain you don’t get any. it’s some representation. start caring about it. it’s the same discourse as ‘I have to headcanon character X that I like as lgbt because representation’ when the fandom has another five lgbt characters who aren’t as cool or hip and get ignored because they aren’t the protagonists. good lord, go complain about this to the bunch of people from the 1*00 fandom who sends bob m0rley racist crap and excludes that bellamy can be the romantic lead, not to me. because if when you have an asian (or half-asian) man as the romantic lead and the show tanks or the guy gets racist backslash and their character gets vilified is not exactly the nicest way to go about it, isn’t it? I’m not even saying chillax. I’m saying that when they exist ppl don’t care so it’s really fucking ridiculous they complain about whitewashing when they don’t support what they have.

My problem is with taking roles and representation away not cultural approp.

You do realize that the moment you say that ‘it doesn’t hurt japanese or chinese or koreans or what have you but japanese/chinese/korean-americans so their opinion doesn’t matter’ you’re... basically superimposing your values over theirs because it implies that their opinion is worth something but their opinion is more worthy, which is a thing that is inherently appropriative since it means that you have more right over their roles than them.

anyway, whenever people on tumblr complain about that shit, as above, white people appropriating culture by whitewashing characters is a thing that happens 99% of the time, so.

also, as stated, just mentioning the last two fiascos: with ghost in the shell as the other user who reblogged this with the addendum the movie itself was appropriative and a bad idea because it wouldn’t have worked with anyone but the japanese so an X-american playing scarjo’s role would still have been appropriative/incorrect. in iron fist the main character was white already so there’s no taking rep away, and the problem is that it’s culturally appropriative that he does martial arts and a bunch of other things, too bad that the chinese don’t care but their opinion doesn’t matter. so whose representation got taken away since they didn’t *whitewash* anyone else in that show? who even fucking knows. also: taking away roles from asian-americans means that you are adapting something and changing the characters’ ethnicity because if something’s taken away then it had to belong to someone in the first place. if white actors TAKE AWAY a role from an asian then the original role is asian and the white actor plays it (like scarjo in theory), but like then it means you’re adapting something. and if you’re adapting someone asian then having asian-americans in it is not the same thing at all. now the asians themselves don’t care so whatever but you can’t just go and say that it’s the same fucking thing all around. and if we’re talking original things you need more people to write roles created for asians or blind cast more asians, but in neither of these cases white actors are TAKING AWAY ROLES FROM ASIANS. I mean, it can work with death note because it’s taking a japanese story that makes no sense anywhere else and putting it in america and at this point having japanese-americans would have been way better than the shit going on now -

too bad I don’t see that much complaining. not as much as scarjo or finn jones. aaaah well guess it’s because one of the racebends wasn’t white.

anyway, like, learn what words mean because I’m at the first part of your ask and you already aren’t making a solid argument. whatever.

I'm NOT American *shocked gasp* so please quit with your 'lol us-centrism'. 

well, ‘the japanese opinion doesn’t matter because the japanese-americans are the ones hurt when it comes to adapting movies with japanese roles’ (I’m not saying asians bc not all asians are the same thanks) is the most US centric drivel you can spew. sorry that’s exactly what it is. if you’re not american whatever, you’re still spewing US-centric drivel and

where you come from. it’s still US centric. and it’s still a problem. because this entire discourse is so US-centric I still wanna facepalm into eternity.

you still made it all about that when I only talked about the fact that the reason people are upset is NOT bc of c.a. but because of it pushing away non-white actors which is a huge problem in America

and since on here it comes from people who don’t put their money where their mouth is,

all over again. also, excuse me but why the hell should I be more concerned about the issues americans have when their point is ‘it doesn’t hurt community X that I AM APPARENTLY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BUT IT HURTS ME SO THEIR OPINION IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE THEY AREN’T DAMAGED’ (???) which honestly does not generate any sympathy? if that’s your point then sorry I’m not even very much interested in hearing it because it sounds arrogant af and again appropriative af of the original media because it assumes that americans have more rights on the original the moment that the opinions of who created the original are lesser.

and pushing away non-white actors will start stopping to be a problem when people go watch the stuff that has non-white actors in it without finding it inherently problematic from episode one for reasons that are irrelevant 95% of the time. I still ain’t seeing that happening.

like, idk if it was clear, but the moment anyone brings up to me ‘I don’t care about culture X because something related to it hurts americans most’ I am entirely done with taking you seriously. if it wasn’t it’s clear now. and that goes along with americans complaining that anime doesn’t have representation made for american audiences. 

actually, you know when was the first time I heard this dumbass ‘it hurts us and not them’ thing? a few years ago avril lavigne made a song for the japanese market where she was dressing lolita style and singing a few japanese words into the lyrics. the japanese were insanely happy about it. the americans were crucifying her for CULTURAL APPROPRIATION. the japanese went like wtf are you smoking. the americans replied ‘THIS REFLECTS ON THE IMAGE OF JAPANESE-AMERICANS NOT ON THE JAPANESE SO IT’S AN ISSUE EVEN IF THEY THINK IT ISN’T’. a song conceived for the japanese market only.

it’s exactly the same mindset. if you want to have this discussion the ‘I don’t care what the japanese think because they aren’t affected’ part of it needs to die because no one from outside the US will ever take it seriously in eight cases on ten. I imagine you’re one of those two. or maybe you have more empathy than I do. good for you because I exhausted my empathy on this topic a long time ago.

I don't want a fight and never brought up c.a. -YOU did Also, attacking me for saying 'Japanese natives doesn’t care because it doesn’t affect them and their careers' is hypocritical as fuck since the only reason I brought that up is bc of ALL THE POSTS ON YOUR PAGE saying exactly that 

‘I don’t want a fight’ next time don’t write me an ask with caps in it like ASIAN AMERICANS DON’T HAVE ROLES wow as if I don’t know that, and you don’t write an ask completely misunderstanding the whole point of the discourse I’m making.

as in,

LOL Japanese people don't care about white actors taking these roles, so why should Japanese-Americans lololoool?

CONGRATULATIONS YOU COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT AS ABOVE. because from an asian-american POV, caring about white actors taking asian roles saying that the whites CULTURALLY APPROPRIATE THOSE ROLES (because they say it) and then saying ‘well it doesn’t affect them but us so we don’t care if the japanese don’t agree’ is fucking hypocritical. and if you’re supposedly defending japanese or chinese or korean or x-asian culture and the people from that culture tell you to chill then you can’t say too bad their opinion doesn’t matter anymore, because they’re speaking over them and you can tell me CA is not the problem but it fucking is because it gets brought up in this discussion 99% of the time the discussion is happening. and again, I frankly don’t really care about this entire drama when that is the point you’re starting at.

also idk if I was japanese I’d be *affected* about americans remaking my country’s stuff badly but good for them that they don’t care, they’re better people than I am. I’m still salty because of the americans remaking i soliti ignoti and it came out in 2002 and there wasn’t even one italian actor, but since it was dumbed down criminals from the original criminals maybe it was better like that. I’d also be pissed that my original is less known than the american remake which will have more distribution because it’s american when the original is most probably a lot better but that’s an entire other can of worms. but like, that totally doesn’t matter (if any japanese feels like that) because how americans feel about it matters more? okay then.

I wanted to respond to that by stating exactly WHY that was, but you decided to throw a fit about it and make it something entirely different. Thanks.

thanks, I’m absolutely informed about that already and I already think it’s not a good excuse to exclude the japanese from the conversation.

also, anon, I don’t know if you guessed already, but let’s just state it for everyone to hear: I’m here for fandom. I get a lot of traffic for things that aren’t fandom. I’ve been here since 2011. this whole social justice fail has been going on since at least 2013 if not before. I’ve tried the nice-to-everyone approach and given that half of the time it doesn’t work, that half of the time it gets me wank (not as much as it could but still some) and in rare cases it gives me enough anon hate/idiots in the askbox that would wear anyone’s patience thin. given that in 2014/2015 I wasn’t working sort of steadily but last year I was and this year I am and I’m more tired and older and with a lot less time for bullshit, if you come out with a fairly condescending message that’s sprouting one of the most dumb hypocritical things that US tumblr has ever managed to come up with, I’m not gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn’t want to start a fight because I stopped giving the benefit of the doubt the time last year when I was trying to be extra nice to someone and honestly ask them for clarification about a thing I didn’t know and I got, uhm, six hours of people being assholes, some really fucking low anon hate that ten years ago would have sent me into a full week of existential crisis and I had to block like, 100 people in one hour.

I have no time whatsoever to waste giving people the benefit of the doubt especially when they dump US-centric crap into my inbox, because ‘X’s opinions on X’s culture is less relevant when it’s all about X-americans’ is US-centric crap. I didn’t throw a fit. I’m just really fucking done with the rampant hypocrisy on this website and its tendency to address the symptom and not the cause. as in, screaming about white actors working more than asian actors when asian actors would work more if those same complainers actually watched their shows.

and with this I’m really done and never wasting another forty minutes of my life on the topic, good thing watching kitchen nightmares isn’t anything that requires putting any mental effort in things.