#I just know ochako would be a lesbian if she had katsuki as a bestie/hj
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I need katsuki to be all "men arent shit, I hate all men, make them go to the military, im actually goin to turn straight" idk idk
its not even himiko telling ochako express her worries and herself to izuku, its just accept the chance HE IS GIVING YOU to talk more. What was the point of the togachako fight then?
1- It wasn't about making her have a separated arc with a villain and a different outcome, as she dies sacrificing herself similarly to Tomura.
2- It wasn't about making Ochako finally accept herself and her needs, as after the war she had to have Deku come after her to convince her to express herself, and 8 years laters she still kept things inside.
3- Her confession to Himiko is meaningless, bc we dont see her try to help any other actual villains nor actively remember her -she has the weird dreams, but they only happen to push her (literally) towards Deku; they arent about Himiko and Ochako, they are about "I love you so much, you should be happy with him".
4- It wasn't about making Ochako and Midoriya have a traumatic experience in common to bond over (god I hate this one, but still), besides 429 which ends with a platonic note, theres no mention about it affecting them both (or affecting Midoriya in general), and even tho Ochako is feeling weird in 431, 431!Midoriya doesnt even notice that and only focus in what interests him: talking more to her bc he heard about classmates dating a "inevitability".
Was it about Ochako needing Himiko's permission to be with him? Ochako cant have any form of agency in the actual story and in her actual arc, to the point that she does absolutely none of the things her character was supposed to resolve? She needs Himiko to give her permission to accept an offer Deku gives her, even tho the fight was about expressing her true feeling and not apologizing for being herself. What's the point? I dont understand at all... She cant even do that for herself? She needs a dude that JUST THAT NIGHT remembered she was his friend and helped him a lot and a DEAD GIRL in order to resolve the "romance arc"? Really?
Why the hell does she as a character and they as a pair need so much for such simple thing? They were friends, with the literal same values,
They could have used the little differences they have in order to give them some form of flavor -idk like ochako is fully against attacking and deku isnt opposed to it at all, they could have used this to make them seem more complex and establish their dynamic actually have something deeper to say about who they are separated and together. It would at least make it make sense that theres some tension and doubts about her feelings -like "oh, I really dont like the way he is treating villains but im falling for him... idk what to do about this I dont want to think about this conflict". Instead we got them never discussing anything beyond "you should ask for help!" and "hey I have the exact same perspective and values as you!" but with the drama of star-crossed lovers -they just arent, they are a pretty simple and plain pair, you cant give this kind of ship that level of intensity that 8 years later they just HAVE to get together. They have moments together, but they dont give off romance vibes as its mostly kept vague or completely unrelated to love, and the justification is "oh deku just realized now that she loves her like that!" Tf? That's not a good conclusion, he doesnt know her at this point -how can he STILL love her, when he didnt even try to reach out to her before? How can he feel that way, when he never, ever had thoughts about it beyond blushing the first few times he interacted with a girl?
Even tho I hate this perspective, it would make more sense if they were together but deku admitted he didnt write a lot about it as he was telling a hero story. Boom thats it, harmless canonization, no need to make me feel like I dont understand absolutely anything about anyone ever.
And wtf does Shigaraki have to do with this mess??? Leave him out of this, omfg he wasn't talking about midoriya starting to talk to his high school friends again nor pursue love, am I supposed to believe that was his message??? Wtf????? Am I crazy for thinking none of this makes sense??????
I love how he was perfectly able to just barely see ochako in 8 years, and in just one dinner he "realizes" he "loves" her. Fuck that, this isnt even the bare minimum, never date a man like this istg Midoriya makes me feel like a misandrist dont play with me you loser who cant even try to properly care for a friend and all of the sudden you love her??? And she has to accept????? Oh no, nonononono
#yeah no he isnt going to do shit about it he doesnt care about romance and cant even understand he should#maintain his relationships in general in order to be friends with them -he cares about you he does but he cares about everyone#maybe he ends up dating you just bc you were friends and he heard someone talking about that its not worth it dont be like me im also a#loser you had a girl loving you so much back then and he cant even talk to me about the apology#seriously misandry can be really harmful and end up in gender essentialism and far right conservative ideologies#however I think it can be a funny tool if used correctly and understanding the nuances of these serious conversations#katsuki ochako my beautiful lesbians you should be allowed to hate men <3#when a man talks katsuki goes STFU YOU USELESS PIECE OF SHIT SIT DOWN#and we stand him for it#literally he was THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDNT BELIEVE SHE WAS WEAK#AND DEKU ONLY SAW HER HERO MOMENTS AS HER TALKING THINGS DOWN OR TRYING TO SAVE SOMEONE IN NON COMBATIVE WAYS#I just know ochako would be a lesbian if she had katsuki as a bestie/hj#he would tell her everthingggg
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