#I just can't stand it when ppl infantalize him. that is not a baby that is a 36 yr old man and hes responsible for his actions!!!
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another reason I like novel fics is most of the time they depict jc really unflatteringly and while that can be annoying if its ooc (which is often - the haters can get just as irrational, and it's not a good tragedy if there's NO feeling there), it can sometimes be really gratifying. novel jc really does suck so bad he deserves it
#he also sucks in cql but less so. and there's enough pathos pumped into his performance that he has a ton of fans#he's MUCH easier to woobify#I just can't stand it when ppl infantalize him. that is not a baby that is a 36 yr old man and hes responsible for his actions!!!#actually it weirds me out when any of them get called babies.#like by white fans. they're only teenagers for an arc or so...anyway. that guy sucks. the torture for one#the terrible personality. the immaturity. the temper. etc.#that fic just made me so mad at him 😭#ficblogging
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Buddist anon here again (god I should really create a tumblr to talk to you). I think I know why our perspective of the jedi differ. Sorry, I should have made clear to you that only consider the Prequels (PT), Original Trilogy (OT), and the The Clone Wars (TCW) canon and I base most of my opinions from there bc George Lucus worked on those things and Lucas doesn't view anything out of those things canon. For the rest (Legends, EU, games, etx), I pick and choose what I take as canon. If it doesn't align with what I think Lucas's ideas and themes are like the entire idea of gray jedi, i ignore it. Some things that I like and consider canon that's not apart of Lucas's canon is "Obi-wan & Anakin", "Dooku:lost Jedi", "Shatterpoint", the Revenge of the Sith novelization, and "Scum and Villainy". I really liked the "Star Wars Propaganda: A history of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy" book and thought it was really interesting.
So when you say that the galaxy can't be held accountable for standing up for themselves because their the victims and the government is corrupt enough that it wouldn't matter. But how do you think their government ended up that way? It's because the public gradually stopped holding their government accountable and stopped paying attention to politics (you kinda see this in the US). Of course this doesn't apply to governments who were corrupt from the get go. In the PT and TCW, the jedi do help where they can help. But they can't be everywhere at once. I don't know anywhere in the PT and TCW, where the jedi refuse to help when they can help.
The galaxy views the jedi as miracle workers because most ppl have never seen a jedi (remember they're a tiny minority in galaxy full of billions of people) so exagerated rumors spread about everything a jedi can do NOT because the jedi themselves believe that.
For the children thing, based on my understanding from the PT and TCW, the kids aren't taken from their parents, the kids are adopted by the jedi. For most cases, the jedi are given the kids by their parents. In TCW, the Disappeared episodes show the Jedi respecting the wishes of and stopped going to the planet of Bardottans who were unwilling to give their kids to them and accused them of being kidnappers (they found out later that the anti-Jedi attitudes was influenced by rumors spread by the Frangawl Cult, who didnt want the Jedi to discover their plans). In The Children Of The Force episode (esentially Cad Bane steals force sensative babies/infants), Wee Dunn (the Rodian infant) was left with his bio mom despite being intended to be a Jedi. His mom specially said "Master Ropal said that they would come for him to go to the temple but nor for some time." to Cad Bane when he pretended to be a Jedi to steal her kid. If the Jedi just took force sensitive kids, Cad Bane wouldn't have to trick her into giving her kid up. Roo-Roo Page (the Gungan child Bane attempts to steal) is left with her bio mother, there's no indication that she's going to be a Jedi, only that she was on the Force-senssative list. The Jedi don't seem to feel a need to have every single Force-sensative child become a child, considering:
a) they first thought that it was safer to leave Anakin untrained
b) left the Bardottans, Nightsisters, etc alone
c) let ppl leave if they want and still speak highly of them (in Attack of The Clones, the Jedi are reluctant to even entertain the idea that Dooku tried to assassinate Padme).
The Jedi ADOPT kids they don't kidnap them. And from what I can see from the PT and TCW, the Jedi Order are preety respectful about other people's culture and that Jedi from different cultures are allowed and encouraged to celebrate and practice and learn about their birth culture. Are there parents who were pressured to give their kids up? Probably but its probably a miniscule ammount and isnt mensioned in the OT, PT, or TCW. Tbh I don't know why there is a cut-off for kids, I have to think about this more.
I do agree with you that people with power should be held accountable. But why should the Jedi be held more accountable then the corrupt government that rarely ever listens to them? A few notable examples:
- Obi-wan tries for diplomacy bw the Talz and the Pantoran, but is told it's an internal Pantoran matter (TCW, "Trespass")
- Mace tries to prevent further testing done on the Zilo beast and set the Zilo beast free in an uninhabited planet but Palpatine overruled him on Malastare. Later on Coruscant, Mace tries warning Palpatine that bringing the Zilo beast here was a mistake, but Palpatine ignores him (TCW, "The Zilo Beast")
- Mace says that they don't want to send Anakin to Tatooine to make a treaty with the Hutts, but Palpatine does anyway (Star Wars: The Clone Wars movie)
- Mace attempts to stop Palpatine from interfering with Anakin but Palpatine pulls rank and shuts him down:
"Thank you Chancellor, but I'm sure Obi-wan has it well in hand."
"Why, young Skywalker is a Jedi, is he not? The Jedi are under the Senate's jurisdiction. And as i the Chancellor of the Senate..." (Obi-Wan &Anakin)
-Dooku as a Jedi advocates for Serenno in the Senate is practically told to fuck off: "With all due respect, our honorable friend oversteps the mark. The Jedi Council claims to be a servant of the republic, and yet here they are ateenpting to influence senatorial policy. Master Dooku has no buisness petitioning the Senate on such matters." (Dooku: Lost Jedi)
- Mace tries to get Boba's sentence reduced, but is ignored: "A recommendation from Gerneral Windu suggested leniency and rehabilitation as opposed to corporal punishment, a request that ultimately fell on deaf ears in the Judiciary, who cited zero tolerance to attacks against military assets in this time of war." [Scum and Villainy]
Obviously the Jedi weren't perfect because they're people and people are never flawless but they do try to use what little political sway they do have to help better things, but they just get shut down time and time again. They work within the system because they still belive that the Republic can become better.
Now, I'm sorry but I'm going to ask something completely off topic. Do you like thriller psychological crime kdramas? If you do I have a rec for you.
ooh, i treat most games as canon because swtor is amazing, let me tell you that. i can't stop talking about it tbh.
and if i made it seem that "the government is corrupt enough that it wouldn't matter" because that's definitely not what i meant. what i meant with my whole rant is that yes, while the government should be held accountable, the jedi should also be held accountable. it's not entirely the fault of the jedi but they should also share that fault. and you can't really blame the victims for it because that would end up as victim blaming.
victims don't normally know they're victims and have to rely on higher power for them to realize that they really are victims. hypothetically speaking, while some may acknowledge and know that the government should be held accountable, what are they going to do about that without resources? my point with telling victims that they're kind of at fault for not standing up for themselves, is just that you can't expect them to do that. because that's what they are: victims. it may be because of education and the influence of their government as to why they don't know they are victims, which goes back to the government being at fault too, and there are many factors involved but you don't blame the victims. i understand that maybe, that's not what you're trying to say, but i want to clear that up. they should never be held accountable for failing to stand up for themselves because they're the victims.
as for the jedi, i'm sorry if it seemed that i was throwing all the blame at them but what i was trying to say is that they should be held accountable too. they are, at the end of the day, in a privileged position with magical jedi powers, an organization that's been out and about for a lot of years.
i'm also not saying that they should be held more accountable than the people who are literally doing the bad things themselves but they should be held more accountable than they should be. jedis have been around for, like we all know, more than enough years, and there are many times when they sat around and did nothing (though this is in reference to kotor which isn't considered as canon by most people, like you said). so you can ignore this part, but privileged people can always do more. they can always try harder.
and as for the kids...
i get that the jedis don't kidnap them. i hope i didn't allude to that accusation but there's just something inherently wrong with jedis taking kids from their parents, whether it looks like adoption or not. i don't think anyone can justify this to me. i understand it's for the children's safety, and for the "no attachment" rule, but it just bothers me a lot. i feel uncomfortable just thinking about it. that's probably the 'i grew up in an asian household and had a complicated childhood so i'm 100% more sensitive towards the topic of children' in me. but while i understand that, imo, it can't be justified for me.
no one can really convince me to stop being uncomfortable at the idea of jedi taking children, adoption or not. so that's it for me :") and you should definitely make a tumblr! i'd love to talk about this more with you ^
as for the psychological thriller, yup! i love psychological thrillers. i'm not very fond of kdramas since i find them really long and repetitive, and i'm not the type to watch them tbh... but i'd love recommendations regardless :D
#問 ━━ answers#i love the jedis dont get me wrong#i just also love philosophy psychology and sociology#and yes...#i dont like kdramas that much#a few eps of kdrama gives me a migraine bc of how long one episode is and how stressful the mcs are#and mostly bc it's just really long
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Can't win: Backlash against Trump's Charlie Gard tweet suggests he's better off bashing CNN
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Can't win: Backlash against Trump's Charlie Gard tweet suggests he's better off bashing CNN
Earlier Monday, Twitchy noted some of the praise President Trump was receiving in response to his tweet offering help to Charlie Gard, theterminally ill British infant courts have ruled is to be taken off life support.
Trump vows to help Charlie Gard, the British infant courts say should be allowed to die https://t.co/Aemknh9YK9
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 3, 2017
Did we say “praise”?
This is a new low for @realDonaldTrump
— Julia Stain (@JuliaSm45799532) July 3, 2017
Unfortunately, the tweet also served as a sad reminder to Republicans: while Trump seems to invite heat from opponents, that heat would have been turned on any Republican who defeated Hillary Clinton last fall just check out the rash of Mike Pence hit piecesand the derision he faced when a 15-year-old quote about dining with women other than his wife was reprinted. Twitchy readers might remember whenNew Jersey Rep. Tom MacArthur held a town hall in May and was confronted over the House health care bill.MacArthur attempted to share his own experience of taking his 11-year-old daughter off of life support, but angry constituents weren’t moved, and instead shouted him down with yells of “Shame on you!” and reminded him that other babies would die too under the GOP’s plan.
Some people just can’t seem to look at anything, even Charlie Gard’s case, through any lens but that of the Republican health care plan.
Trump is a sick man who is using a dying child to score political points. How many children will die if Obamacare is stripped?
— Aaqib Javed (@aaqibjaved24) July 3, 2017
How ironic he wants to help this child as he and GOP are prepared to strip health care from millions of kids in the USA
— Lynne Jones (@lynnjones868) July 3, 2017
You know what’s ironic? Watching open borders progressives who advocate tirelessly on behalf of illegal immigrants suddenly taking an “America first” attitude when it comes to providing health care. Weren’t they the same ones forwarding the story of the poor man whose grandmother died in Iraq because of Trump’s travel ban? (That turned out to be a hoax, by the way.)
But he wants to kill kids who's families can't afford healthcare here in the US…uh.
— Mikey Hughes (@yayomikey) July 3, 2017
But he's willing to let American kids die because, you know, tax cuts.
— She Persists (@always_resist) July 3, 2017
But thousands of American kids can die without insurance, right? That makes sense.
— Marilyn Tatman (@MarilynTatman) July 3, 2017
Trump knows more than the generals & more than the pediatricians! Always grabbing for the headlines! What about our children losing the ACA?
— John C Libert, PhD (@libert_c) July 3, 2017
Okay – but what about the children in America that need medical attention? shouldn't they come first?
— Marlene (@marlene_autio4) July 3, 2017
What happened to America First? Tens of thousands of American babies need help NOW. Charlie wouldnt survive a day under Trump's WealthCare.
— . (@Zachary507) July 3, 2017
And wants to take care away from millions of Americans #hypocrite #25thAdmendmentNow
— Kathryn Orbanek (@redwing606) July 3, 2017
Exploiting a tragedy. Despicable man. Maybe he should help the children who will die if they lose their healthcare….
— pattyInNY (@pattyinNY) July 3, 2017
US heath insurance companies hand out death sentences on a daily basis by denying legitimate coverage. Where's his support to them? pic.twitter.com/hDd6qNdwjk
— Kelly Elizabeth (@altoKelly) July 3, 2017
Maybe think about people in your own country instead… you want to take from 22million ppl
— G (@katzenfrauen) July 3, 2017
Sorry, that's a pre-existing condition
— Merry P (@SkeeryMerry) July 3, 2017
Imagine if he made the same vow to help children in his own country- those w pre-existing conditions-who stand to lose coverage w ACA repeal
— Susan Breen (@Susan_Breen_Art) July 3, 2017
While denying refugees safety and taking healthcare from 22 million Americans. Okay, then.
— Amy Rosenthal (@amylourose) July 3, 2017
And yet….denial of care here? WHAT????
— Joyce Reynolds (@tinkreynolds) July 3, 2017
Trump is throwing American children under the bus with his healthcare agenda and then grandstanding on this situation. He's a hypocrite
— Susan (@HigginsSusan2) July 3, 2017
So he wants to help a British kid but screw the Americans. Seems legit
— Chris (@Chriz2opher) July 3, 2017
but let's allow millions of American children die without insurance or food… What an attention seeker.
— Coldiron Alley (@Coldironalley) July 3, 2017
Vows to help a sick child in UK, but is pushing to kill children in his own country. you @realDonaldTrump I HATE U!!!!!!
— President Orin Hatch (@Bitchslappermvp) July 3, 2017
What would modern day president do? A. Send tweet for political points. B. Quietly donate to St. Judes in honor of child. Anyone surprised?
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