#I hate people who think that bullies and abusers deserve sympathy and concession as soon as they act nice once or twice
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nothingtherefornow · 11 months ago
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Which is why I was so infuriated with the rest of Marinette and Adrien's classmates during Revelation. I know they're kids but for Gimmi's sake could they try to put themselves in Marinette's shoes for once instead of taking her for granted and thinking badly of her everytime she has a negative opinion about somoene ?!!
You know that's remind me of something I've seen in a Manhwa :
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And that's exactly what we often see in Miraculous :
As soon as Chloé does something nice, everyone conveniently forget all the awful things she did, or the fact that Chloé never once apologized or regretted those things.
And as soon as Marinette shows dislike toward somoene and doesn't bend all the way to help them, everyone quickly forget all the numerous good things Marinette for acquaintances, friends family and strangers without expecting anything in return, and start to think of her as a bad person.
It's really a "the wicked have an easy life and don't have to try hard to gain a good reputation, while the good samaritans must always answer to unfair expectations and be harsly judged and taken for granted" mentality.
That's why Marinette and Adrien's classmates are walking on very thin ice, and fall really low in my esteem.
About Evil teenagers antagonists in Miraculous
I currently wonder how can some fans still want a redemption for somoene like Chloé who willingly hurt people just because that's was her definition of "fun".
Why not accept Chloé as somoene evil ? Just because she's 14 years old ? Just because Gabriel was worst than her doesn't take away the fact that Chloé is a truly bad person who has the potential to become as evil, if not worse than Gabriel while growing up.
Even in real life, adults are not the only ones who are capable of cruelty and crimes. If only adults were capable of monstrosity, I wouldn't have 14-year-olds killing each other with callache nikoffs in the drug trafficking districts of my city. we wouldn't have young people beating up little ones and pushing others to suicide and absolutely not regretting their actions. And we wouldn't have stories to raise eyebrows about kids capable of committing murder and acts of torture without necessarily having been abused in their lives.
To me, anyone who loves to make others suffer for their own sick pleasure (and their victims are people who objectively don't deserve such cruelty) has serious mental issues and can be a danger to others.
Both Chloé and Lila love to make others people suffer or don't care about hurting innocents, and they certainly don't feel any empathy for anyone, or in Chloé's case, no longer feel any empathy (she may have felt sympathy and empathy for Adrien at some point, like during the episode Felix in season 3, but that's definitly no longer the case as soon as Adrien asked her to stop being a biatch). Maybe Lila may feel a form of attachment toward her mothers, yet that doesn't stop her from manipulating them and fooling them in a way that's pretty cruel if you dig deeper in Lila's scale of truancy and imposterization.
I know that technically when a 14 year old kid behaves like Lila and Chloé we could say to ourselves that it is unfair to give them no chance and to condemn them when they are only 14-15 years old and could change for the better if they could be guided on the right path.
But Miraculouse is a show in which the superheroes with the fate of the world in their hands are 14 year old kids. And as such in this fictitious reality, other 14 year olds are perfectly likely to become real cruel and threatening villains i without any scruples, especialy if they are influenced by the wickedness of an adult supervillain.
And I believe that Gabriel's evilness only made Chloé's and Lila's wickedness worse.
He put those two girls in positions of power where they could hurt others and act according to their darkest and Manichean impulses. And Lila and Chloé would only want more taste of that power to crush others. And you know how power easilly corrupt the most greedy hearts.
On several occasions, Gabriel even approved of Lila and Chloe's horrible plans and actions. He has encouraged Lila on numerous occasions to "get rid of" Marinette, thus giving the impression that he supports Lila's jealousy, and during collusion he will have the nerve to say that Chloé's ideas, which consist literally ruining the academic future of your classmates and putting your pregnant teacher in jail for no good reason are good ideas. Having a rich adult in a position to approve of their actions in this way will only have given Lila and Chloe the feeling that their acts of cruelty and malice are justified, and thus reinforced their evil nature.
On several occasions we have seen Chloe and Lila voluntarily let themselves be akumatized, and worse than that, we have seen them plan to be akumatized (Chloe in Penalteam, and Lila in Revelation) and not for understandable reasons like that of a desperate Jalil brainwashed by lies on social media. Because Lila and Chloe have only ever been motivated by their narcicism, their ego, and their desire to get revenge on people they hate for the most pettiest, vain and selfish reasons possible.
Lila and Chloé may be kids, but they are evil teenagers, because they would gladly become supervillain if that means getting what they want. And what they want is anything but noble. For their selfish goals, Lila and Chloé were willing to endanger the city they live in and all its inhabitants. I don't even know if I can still call Lila and Chloé kids or teenagers, with how far they're willing to go and hurt people for the sake of their ambitions.
Although there's still the possibility that Lila may be an adult with a youngfull appearance or a hormonal abnormality making her look like a teenager when she could be an adult. But that would risk making her a pedophile so I don't think the show will go that far ^^ At most they could give her the same as Théo Barbot
But an antagonist adult would be needed then to balance an antagonist teenager supervillain.
Good thing we still have Tomoe Tsurugi then
It's tragic that Chloé and Lila wickedness and evilness could be due to serious mental issues or Chloé's bad upbringing, and the show may have decided that it's more important to protect others from the harm Chloé and Lila can cause rather than to prioritize "helping" them with their issues. Both Marinette and Adrien proposed another path for Chloé to chose, one that could have helped her heal from the emotional and mental wounds her mother's abandonment and neglect. Chloé instead chose Hawkmoth's/Monarch
Ladybug offered Lila her friendship, and Adrien also offered Lila to be there for her as long as she didn't hurt those he loved. Yet both Lila and Chloe voluntarily chose to continue committing bad deeds and hurting others, regardless of the fact that someone reached out to them and offered them another path to get love, acknowledgement and recognition from people. Adrien and Marinette don't have to sacrifice their mental health for people who wish them harm, so I understand very well that it wasn't and won't be their priority to help Chloé and Lila find potential redemption. And especially when Lila and Chloe seem determined to refuse to change and continue to cling to their wickedness.
It should be the adults responsabilities to deal with Chloé and Lila issues, and unfortunatelly the adults in Miraculous are pretty lousy and incompetents. It's very tragic when we don't know that one kid is a psychopath, and if another has always gotten away with his narcissistic behavior disorder and nothing had ever been done to help them deal with that issue, that only leaves the opportunity for the seed of evil in these kids to germinate and flourish, and then reach the level of nastiness that is more often found in adults.
#miraclous ladybug#miraculous ladybug rant#chloé bourgeois#lila rossi#gabriel agreste#tomoe tsurugi#It's not Marinette's responsability to fix her tormentors#and it's unfair to turn on her as soon as she shows dislike and mistrust toward somoene#while Chloé gets a free pass for all her misdeeds as soon as she does something “nice”#I hate people who think that bullies and abusers deserve sympathy and concession as soon as they act nice once or twice#while they think that people who are often helpfull loving and friendly toward others no longer deserve trust#as soon as they refuse to be kind and helpful to one or two people they do not like#And thus I greatly despise Marinette's classmates for having this messed up mentality#And to see Marinette in a negative light as soon as she's not acting nice toward somoene#while they completly forget all the hurt Chloé caused as soon as she accepst to be Lila's subsitute in class presidency#And while they also conveniently miss how condescending and unfair Lila's words are to Marinette#Just because Lila makes her words sound sweeter and more posed than Marinette's rightfull anger at the unfairness of Chloé's favoritism#I know they are just kids and can't recognize all clues but still#To forget all Marinette's qualities and good actions just because of one or two of her flaws#And to forget all the times Chloé willignly hurt people just because Lila told them that she beleives in Chloé#It's not only unfair and disrespectfull toward Marinette who suffered the most because of Chloé#But it's also like disreguarding Marinette's own thoughts and opinion on the matter#And true friend absolutly shouldn't behave that way#at te very least Marinette's “friend” are just good buddies and classmates#but nothing more and nothing less than that to me from now on
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