#I guess theres a difference between remorse or regret because I feel no remorse what soever

[8ballcat]

Who woulda thought my magnum opus as an author would be a fucking manic email chain. Heavy is the crown of the fool. 💅

[dcftones]

Norman Osborn is both vilified and woobified and it's kinda funny. He was always an evil villain don't get me wrong. He was always an abusive dad and any fan who thinks he wasn't needs a refresher on emotional neglect. However, writers grinded up his vile levels after he died and especially after he came back and readers got none of 1960s Norman's better qualities. Then Marvel stupidly tried to undo all the negative stories he's been in. Somehow they haven't realized you can't really press the backspace key on what's already happened. If they wanted to do that they should have just not have had him max out on Evil.

they rlly cannot decide what they want norman to be😭 like the recent comics are focusing on his #manpain and making him feel bad for…everything… with no regard to all the people he’s hurt and his primary victims (harry). But then as u said they went all in and made norman Extra Evil some years before (the og stuff with kindred comes to mind), which Would be alright i guess if current marvel didn’t feel like every single bad guy they create needs either 1. A depressing backstory or 2. They must feel Some remorse because morally grey??

They already did number one for norman because his dad was physically abusive and def inserted harmful ideas into his head which inevitably continued the cycle of abuse from norman onto harry, but it wasn’t even done in a way that makes you say “oh my sweet little meow meow he didnt deserve any of it :(“, yeah i feel bad for the guy cause being a victim of abuse is never alright but Maybe he should’ve gone to therapy instead idk! He’s one of those characters that really shouldn’t be used to portray regret for actions or being a victim, Instead they should’ve went all in on the relationship he has with harry and the sheer tragedy of it. Norman loves harry in his own weird way, but the circumstances of his childhood and how he himself reacts to vulnerability shattered like, any chances of harry having a normal childhood (though tbh harry would’ve still had it bad if norman wasnt beat on by his dad). They really should’ve played on that instead of making norman not that bad of a dad on multiple occasions or on the flip side, making him turbo evil to where you cant even look at him and see anything but a comically horrible caricature.

I especially am blaming the sam raimi movies norman and by extension no way home for the real uptick in poor little meow meow norman though bc it really became accessible to a huge audience then, taking the heat off of norman himself and putting it on his mr. hyde-esque alter ego so hes a victim of his own mind. Its honestly a disservice to norman’s character imo…. Hes much more interesting when he’s truly in control of being the green goblin or he has some semblance of what he’s doing while blacked out and refuses to stop or absolutely relishes in the part of himself that has no restraint. tssm norman osborn beloved tho they rlly did him right in that show🤭 but always theres a difference between the actual marvel execs greenlighting woobification and young adults on ao3 writing idk soft gays?