#I don't think most of y'all have seen a Scorcese film if you only think he does gangster films and think he is more *pretentious* than he i
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themfatales · 1 month ago
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I just made my own post instead of dumping this on a reblog bc it's not a big deal but....when did Martin Scorcese become a stand-in for "guy who makes gangster movies" or "film-bro pretentious?"
Most of Scorcese's films are not about gangsters. Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Cape Fear, New York New York, The King of Comedy, The Age of Innocence, and in fact pretty much every major Scorcese film that most people have seen that isn't Goodfellas or The Departed...is not a film about gangsters. (Mean Streets is great but it's a deeper cut). Gangs of New York, I think you could put in that category, but it's also a historical period piece and not the Goncharov'd/Godfather'd aesthetic that you would associate with a "gangster movie." Oh, I forgot The Irishman, but come on, that one only came out a few years ago and I know none of y'all watched it or remembered it unless you were a huge film nerd. I didn't even get into it.
When did Scorcese, of all people, become the stand-in for "filmmaker people assume is pretentious?" Was it when he said everything correctly wrong with Marvel films? Or on this site maybe Goncharov effect?
EDIT: I also totally forgot about The Departed, which I guess from one point of view is a "gangster film" (or really, a crime film). I distinguish between films like Goodfellas or The Godfather which are what most people think of as "gangster films" in that they focus on the perspective of people in organized crime vs "cops vs robber" films like Heat which usually include the perspective of law enforcement and The Departed is the later, but that's splitting hairs. It's a crime film, sure, and also a thriller.
#Scorcese has always been extremely populist in his sensibilities#it took him decades to win an Oscar for directing because of it#contrast to Christopher Nolan who is also someone who is very populist and it took him what 15 years to win Best Director compared to#Scorcese having to wait from 1973 to 2010?#I don't think most of y'all have seen a Scorcese film if you only think he does gangster films and think he is more *pretentious* than he i#except I have come to hate the word *pretentious* because online it has come to mean *likes things that are better written than a Marvel*#Taxi Driver is both very simple to understand and very complicated in how it is made in the best possible way#edit: actually I did the math and if we are counting from the start of the Batman trilogy (when Nolan went from indie to mainstream) then#18 years not 15 but close enough#granted the Oscars were also more likely to go for blockbusters pre-Weinstein (Rocky beat Network Star Wars AND Taxi Driver for Best Pictur#Network should have won even though Taxi Driver is my favorite out of those nomineees personally)#but even in THAT era Scorcese was not enough which is why I find it funny that people who haven't sat through a Scorcese films think he is#The Pretentious Film Guy probably because of his MILD and btw CORRECT comment about Marvel films taking over cinema that was more about the#impact on the industry than the quality of the films#but then again we would not have gotten the bonkers glory that was Goncharov if not for it#like I know the person who made the poster likes Scorcese but if it weren't the fact I'm pretty sure most people who were Gonch blogging#didn't know what one of his films would actually look like then Goncharov would not have been so fun and batshit crazy and silly so no#complaints. but yeah I feel like even the most obnoxious film bros I know don't see Scorcese in that light#like chose someone French New Wave if you want to pick someone famous enough to be recognizable but someone you'd associate with snobs#(fairly or otherwise). like not that he deserves it either but Jean-Luc Godard is right there
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