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two cents here and to say something to the other blog saying this is toto's way of getting 'revenge' / 'back' at lewis..
but the 'toto is obsessed with max because he's desperate to have him in his team' would go to every team too because they would sacrifice anyone to have someone like max in their team, the only difference is that toto talks about it in the media to which it gets talking and people talking about it too while other tp's don't YET they want too and would love to have him in their team ( and are thinking as well ) .
like let's be honest, ferrari would have sacrificed either carlos or charles too for max to drive the prancing horse, hell mclaren would have had sacrificed oscar for max, like i said any team would sacrifice one driver in order to get max to drive for her
Like I've said before, yes, I understand how the 'idea' of having max would be tempting for any team. Ferrari did sacrifice Carlos, for Lewis not Max but would they really have kicked out Charles? I think that's unlikely.
And in terms of McLaren, I think the situation we're looking at here would be more equivalent to Zak dropping hints that Lando would be the one out of a seat, which would definitely be odd.
But in either case, if either TP did start talking up how much they wanted Max, do you think Charles/Lando/Oscar fans would be sitting around going "Oh yeah, great decision, definitely comfortable with my driver losing his seat for that to happen! I welcome the possibility!" Quite obviously they would be pissed off about it too?
And yeah, take Lewis to Ferrari as an example. Fred didn't spend two years telling the media how he'd drop either of his drivers if he could get Lewis. He didn't even tell the media they'd been speaking to Lewis, because he quite clearly respected Carlos and casting doubt on his future that far out doesn't do anyone any favours.
Toto was more coy when talking about Valtteri's future and we all KNEW he was losing his seat? Everyone's been deigning James Vowles to the pits of hell for shopping around Logan's seat so publicly, but what, it's suddenly okay if it's Max you're talking about signing? (Sorry anon - I know you said other TPs don't talk about it openly so not aimed at you as such I just got on a roll)
#Look this isn't a conversation I want to keep having because I hate it#I think george has done more than enough to deserve to be locked down by Mercedes and keep his seat#I've also said multiple times that I understand that deserving something doesn't automatically mean it's going to happen in f1#I don't think any fan wants their drivers future to look uncertain#And like I say I understand the appeal of max but not at the expense of everyone else#As I say my main question mark is why Toto is pursuing this so publicly because most TPs don't do that#The way he's approaching this is highly unusual full stop but even more so given what we know of merc#And how much they've invested in george/kimi#Who knows maybe George has had his head turned by audi - it's been rumoured and he's friendly with hulk recently#There's MANY possibilities but it's still just a weird carry on by Toto?!
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I'm going to be taking advantage of the trailer for Senna's new miniseries to explain a subject that Brazil has been talking about for years, and that I think is important to share, so as not to have disagreements with the somewhat uncertain future of the script made for the miniseries.
Explaining why many Senna fans don't like Xuxa, a great artist and his most famous ex.
All the information in this was taken and translated from a thread, which was taken from several public interviews and also from stories that we have been told about Senna since we were little, so I may forget some details!
the release of the trailer for the Netflix series “SENNA” has revived the debate about how Senna’s relationship with Xuxa is portrayed in the media. Firstly, it is important to know that they had a public relationship between 1988 and 1990 (we don't know for sure) their relationship was very well regarded by the media and by the pilot's family, after the end the two continued to be “friends” publicly for more 2 years
In 1993 Ayrton began dating Adriane Galisteu, which according to some articles irritated the pilot's family, as in addition to liking Xuxa a lot (who was already famous and rich at that time), they thought that his current girlfriend might have had her eye on his money. Shortly after the beginning of Senna and Galisteu's relationship, there were some interviews with the singer Xuxa, saying that Ayrton had cut off contact with her because of his new girlfriend, clearly with the intention of being welcomed by the public as the “poor thing” in the situation.
[ TRANSLATION: after the funeral, Galisteu's relationship with Xuxa, however, was shaken. The presenter and pilot dated for approximately one year and eight months and continued to meet for more two years after they broke up. Then Senna started dating Galisteu and "cut contacts" ]
After the fateful accident, which unfortunately ended up taking the great Brazilian idol, Senna's family continued to exclude Galisteu and support Xuxa, which led many fans to side with the model since she had just lost her boyfriend and was without any support.
[ TRANSLATION 1: Family members welcomed the queen of little kids with open arms, but they did not hug Galisteu. At the time, one of the last in the procession reported - Xuxa was if the car Adriane was in was in the second car, just behind the car that carried Senna's body. ]
[ TRANSLATION 2: Crying a lot, Galisteu said that the two of them were having a great time in their relationship, that she was very much in love and had no idea what she was going to do with her life. "I think I'm living a nightmare and I'm going to wake up. There are moments when I'm strong, aware of everything, and others when I'm totally out of my mind. And I suddenly find myself completely alone, because I lost my boyfriend", said the model. "I wanted to go back in time two days to do something and stop everything ," she added. "But for me he was untouchable, he always came out well of accidents.” ]
[ TRANSLATION 3: When Adriane arrived at the burial site, there were only two empty chairs left, both next to Xuxa. She sat to the right of the presenter. The two spent two "long" minutes without even looking at each other, until someone offered Xuxa a seat next to Leonardo Senna, the driver's brother. ]
It is also worth mentioning that many of Senna's friends stated that he said that Galisteu was the love of his life and that he wanted to build a family with the model. However, Xuxa continued going after the pilot to try to get back together while he was still with the model.
[ TRANSLATION 1 : Then, according to the report, the presenter got into the family car, accompanied by Ayrton's sister, Viviane Senna, and left with them, while Galisteu had to walk to the exit of the cemetery and board a bus reserved for guests. For the journalists covering the burial, there was a clear impression that Adriane had not received the consideration that the three-time world champion himself had been giving his girlfriend. ]
[ TRANSLATION 2: Journalist Lemyr Martins, author of the book "A Star Called Senna", said, in a BBC documentary, that Galisteu was Senna's great love and "could have been the mother of his children", if it weren't for accident that killed the athlete in Italy. However, there are also theories of that Xuxa and Sena had talked about day before the accident and would have decided to resume the relationship. ]
[ TRANSLATION 3: In 1993, Senna opened up about the relationship that lives with Galisteus: "I'm very happy. [...] Having a life. As we Brazilian (pilots), traveling the world with Formula 1, we deserve, sometimes, to take a little calm and share our life with a special woman", he stated. ]
Okay love, but what's up? Why is there so much antipathy between Xuxa and motorsport fans? The reality is, the reason is that she used a lot of the driver's image to promote herself even after the accident, in addition to trying to force that SHE was the great love of his life, it is worth mentioning that the rumors that they had talked before the race were initiated, and are remembered, by her and her alone, with a video and/or interview talking year after year about a supposed connection they both had, always pretending to be a repentant widow, and Senna had two love affairs before Galisteu, after da Xuxa. Even after 30 years she still continues to share their INTIMATE moments, which in my opinion is totally disrespectful to Ayrton
She is known for wanting to convey the image of an “inconsolable widow” to this day, which is an image that doesn't work very well in Brazil, especially those who follow the interviews with Ayrton's friends, and Adriane herself, who leave It's very clear the pure love they felt for each other, as Adriane was the love of his life, he wanted to form his family with her, and one of Ayrton's biggest dreams was to be a father, so he could understand that he wanted to fulfill this dream about her says a lot about his love for her
apparently the Senna series will show this Xuxa character as a “widow” figure for Ayrton, especially because here we know that Adriane was not called to help in any way regarding her moments with him during the development of the series, to be clearer , she thought the character's name wouldn't be hers, she thought they would make her a fictional character.
Unlike Xuxa, Galisteu's interviews are rarely trying to “get back into the media” using Senna's name, as well as being very elegant when mentioning all of the presenter's “stories”.
“butterfly path, my 405 days alongside Ayrton Senna” by Adriane Galisteu
Adriane received an offer to be a Grid Girl at the 1993 Brazilian Grand Prix. She didn't like the idea, because she didn't care about F1, but she ended up agreeing as it was a good proposal. The first meeting with Senna took place on Saturday, during a social event at the Shell hospitality center, but they did not interact. On race Sunday, during the pitwalk, she was approached near the McLaren pits "I'm Ayrton Senna's private affairs advisor. He asked me to get his phone number." She passed and continued her work. She, who initially didn't like racing, found herself cheering madly for the Brazilian to win the race. And he won!
During the celebration given by Shell, all the grid girls came to him to congratulate him. She congratulated him and he asked her to celebrate with him. She refused. He called her the next day and asked her out. She refused again. He invited her to a party. She got a puncture and didn't go AGAIN hahaha
HE ENDED UP AT HER AGENCY OUT OF NOWHERE, everyone was euphoric.
They met at his house and arranged to go to Angra. They went in a helicopter piloted by Senna himself. She says that those days were extremely happy, she talks about her first kiss and the many walks on the beach and diving with her dog Kinda. Still on that same trip, he invented that there was a problem in the room she was in and took her to another "It's my room. Now it's yours too. Make yourself comfortable", From then on, they never let go!
She was introduced into F1, as his girlfriend, at the Monaco GP. She received a private lesson on all the characteristics of the track and was introduced to Berger, Braguinha, Rubinho, Betise, Galvão. He won the race and said it was for her. Upon returning from that incredible trip he says:
"Please don't ever change. If I had to ask you for something, it would be to be exactly who you are. You just don't need to drink so much Coca-Cola, go to so many McDonald's and, seriously, I think you should study English"
Already in Brazil, Dri was looking for a used car to buy. Then on a date that wouldn't be anything special, he surprises her with a brand new silver Uno. The car was full of flowers. On the plate a special detail: "DRI7770". She still has this car today.
Another cute episode was one time they got into an argument over an interview she gave to a magazine. To apologize later, he surprises her:
"Have you been to the bank yet?”
He gave a beautiful interview about how much he loved her, he even gave images of the two of them to Caras magazine.
"One day, I'm going to marry you. And one day I'm going to race in a Ferrari. Even if the Ferrari car drives as fast as a beetle car, I want to be there at my last start, my last lap, my last checkout - I dreamed. - Ferrari is the mystique of Formula 1"
Many say that this relationship made Senna a happier man. That Galisteus made him much happier and lighter.
Words from one of the most important people in the pilot's life, Braguinha: “Ayrton was sad and she made him happier”
The book tells this and much more.
It was such a cute story that it seems like fanfic. Dri moved on with her life, but she always carries this important part with her. She says that she would never want her story to be disconnected from his, that she has the honor of being Senna's ex.
For those who like these behind-the-scenes things, it's worth reading! There are so many more stories there!
I admire Adriane Galisteu so much
She was so young and had to deal with so much. I saw some interviews that were clearly rude to her and she never lost her class!
April 30, 1994
"I have a lot to tell you. To propose to you. To offer you - he continued. I must be there at 8:30 pm, or so. I want to spend the night awake. Let's talk until dawn. I want to convince you that I am, by the way, the best man of your life"
Sempre Senna.
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