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Putting this on my tumblr because nobody reads or cares what I have to say on tumblr: I have a real thorn up my ass about the discourse du jour on how you can't be queer and Christian, and especially so because it's coming from fellow queers and not Christians.
I'll step out in front of all the arguments you may want to make and say that, yes, as an institution, Christianity is bad. It's an evil institution. I'll say that freely and without objection. But the crucial thing to note is that Christianity as an institution and world power is not the same as Christianity as a religion. People have been beaten, murdered, an raped in the name of Christianity, but that does not make those tenets of the faith any more than the murder of Palestinian children is a tenet of Judaism. Because those in power use religion as a cudgel. It's a convenient way to get people in line. It's the ultimate appeal to authority; any political dissidents are sinners and infidels and thus ontologically evil. Swap out Christianity for any other faith and you get the same results.
And yes, churches are evil. All of them. Yes, even your church with the green-haired, tattooed, guitar-playing they/them pastor, and yes, especially the one your aunt preaches in. The purpose of the church in our society is not to bring people spiritual comfort or to discuss the nuances of the afterlife and our purpose for existing; the purpose of the church is to control the masses and point them towards a common scapegoat enemy so that class solidarity is impossible. The purpose is to stir up hate against gay people or black people or Mexicans so that you never stop to think your straight, white, American boss who just bought his eighth Bugatti is the one who's really fucking you other. The purpose is to make you feel like the church is the only trustworthy place in the universe, and that maybe if you tithe a little harder you'll be assured a place in Heaven when you die. The church has nothing to do with Christianity. Christianity is a pretense that they use to make you fear for your soul and hate your fellow man. Uncountably many cults have sprouted up on this exact same idea with different window dressing.
WITH THAT SAID:
This does not make Christianity "the bad religion" or "the evil religion". The thing that's driving this diatribe is this tweet that got popular that said, in effect, "how can you be queer and Christian in 2023" with a quote tweet reading "the only two people replying to this are the Protestants saying 'ermmm my church (the Unified Southern Prebyluther Church of Devotion) allows women to be preachers!' and the Catholics saying 'yes, I am aberrant in God's eyes and a sadomasochist'," and sorry to be the guy who takes a tweet to seriously and get internet mad, but, well, here we are. Viewing the entirety of Christianity as The Catholic Church and The Many Churches of Protestantism is grossly reductive. I have made my stance on churches clear, and will say with my chest that all churches are fascist institutions.
But what the fascists cannot take from us is the Bible. They can translate it and quote it and recontextualize it, but they cannot keep it from us. They cannot keep the fact that the Book of Ruth is a story about homosexual love and mutual aid away. They cannot steal the fact that the self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ means that all our wrongs will be forgiven. They cannot take away the fact that, when Cain asked God if he was his brother's keeper, the next thousand-some pages of the Bible are God replying "yes".
And this is something that gay Christians and trans Christians and all the other queer Christians have had to relearn and reckon with over years, because growing up, all we're told by the mainstream churches is that being queer is sinful, and when we look into the faith itself, we find a God who loves queer people. God does not tolerate gay people or forgive trans people for their transness: God loves queers. God loves faggots and God loves dykes and God loves trannies. God loves bears and twinks and pups and pigs and leather daddies, because God made them and put them on the earth to fuck and fist and love one another, and that's beautiful. It's not cowering and trying to conform; it's a completely radical act. It's saying to the suburban Christofascists, "I know your god better than you do, and I know your god loves me more than you."
And that's why it makes me so mad to see gay people acting like it's backwards to be gay and Christian. I don't speak for everyone, of course - I'm sure there are dozens if not hundreds of gay Christians who think that God loves them despite their gayness, not because of it , and I hope they come to their senses soon - but this is not an act of complacency. We are not coping or trying to fit in. "But Christianity is homophobic!" they jeer. Christians are, and Christian churches are, but I hold that the faith is not. "But the Bible says man shall not lay with man!" they say. Do they think we don't know that? Do they think they don't know that the primary translation of our faith says that God hates us, when the original text does not? We've done our research. We know the original meaning, and we know it's been translated to work against us, and we know that is the fault of men, not of God.
I guess I want to end this by saying, no, gay Christians are not persecuted, because persecutions against Christians is not something that happens in the West outside of your Qanon uncle's septuply forwarded emails. But it is still a shitty thing to do to say that a person's faith is wrong, especially when it's a faith they've had to work hard to find solace in, and especially when they are just trying to keep to themselves and not proselytize like an ass. And, of course, all respect to all the queer people who aren't Christians or have been subject to abuse at the hands of Christians - I'm more sorrowful beyond words that monsters and cretins who proclaim to worship my god would do that to you.
#personal blatherings#delete later maybe#I don't like discoursing I just wanted to get my feelings out for a sec
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my aftg hot takes
most of these are pretty lukewarm but i'm gonna get flamed for them anyway but whatever. spoilers ??? ahead ??? idk read at ur own risk
i don't think andreil ever say i love you to each other; i feel like the discourse about this is virtually endless ever since nora said it but honestly her explanation was so valid??? they're such a show not tell couple it just makes so much sense for them to show the "i love you" in their actions than ever saying the words out loud. esp bc neither of them have ever really heard those words and have them mean anything real or true or actually loving. personally i think their little percentages and the "i hate you"'s and kisses and keys mean more to them than an "i love you" ever could. i'm not a purist on this tho i do think i could visualise it happening maybe somewhere along the road i just think nora's explanation for this is very very in line with canon andreil.
i don't hate thea muldani; i've made a post abt this but basically my thoughts around her are literally just: she's a human being, and she's never gonna be perfect. i also find it very...interesting how the fandom likes to flame thea (an explicitly stated woman of colour) for being "problematic" and a "terrible person/character" when she doesn't act all that different from andrew, neil and kevin (white men) ??? idk it seems a little strange to me bc she seems pretty on par with them on whatever moral compass this batshit crazy fandom has decided to impose on these fictional and very much morally ambiguous characters. anyway go check out my post i go a lot deeper into thea's character and why she does a lot of things wrong but i don't rlly think she's deserving of the insane amounts of hate she gets in the fandom.
i don't think andreil ever get married; this MIGHT be me projecting bc the idea of marriage is just a very complicated and rough concept in my mind but also just i feel like there's something so beautiful about andreil never really putting a label on their relationship??? like they never define it by calling the other their "boyfriend" or "husband" they just are. they have nothing "concrete" binding them like a marriage certificate but they choose to stay with each other through everything. idk it's real to me but again i'm not a purist people can do whatever they want.
i've said it before but i'll keep saying it till enough people hear me: the aftg fandom mischaracterises literally the main fucking characters; i'm mostly talking about andrew and ESPECIALLY neil here bc neil is not a sweet, sunshiney, oblivious, blushy softboy and andrew is not a cold, unemotional, stoic, "conceal don't feel" stone. since i've already bitched on and on about neil's mischaracterisation let's just talk about andrew for a sec. i think andrew is actually a deeply emotional person and is fully aware of the feelings he experiences. does he vocalise or express them often? no but more often than not they show themselves anyway. him crashing out after neil was kidnapped, letting himself get walked like a dog by neil for three books straight, choking allison for slapping aaron, idk i could go on. but yeah you get it.
i don't actually think neil is that oblivious; before people come at me like "but nora said!" or whatever yeah, i know she said he's as dense as a brick when it comes to people flirting with him. considering how much of the ec the aftg fandom likes to disregard allow me to disregard this little bit of it, yeah? this isn't me tryna impose my own projections onto nora's characters, this is lit just me tryna explain how i understand neil josten (he's my bsf btw). he literally clocks his feelings for andrew in trk (after his deep convo™ with nicky) but he just files it away for later bc he doesn't consider attraction or romantic interest anything to be thinking about considering he's got the mafia and his serial killer dad on his tail. i also don't really blame him for not catching onto andrew's feelings earlier (tho doesn't he get pretty fucking close during that one convo they have in exites in trk???? someone correct me if i'm wrong but) bc dude andrew was out here sending fucking mixed ass signals like bro was saying "you are a pipe dream" and "i hate you" in the same fucking conversations like??? neil has always taken andrew at face value and he's not about to question him now. he's also never confused or uncertain about nicky or marissa and what their comments about him meant, he just genuinely does not gaf about them so he doesn't acknowledge them or pay them any attention in his narration. i truly truly think his dismissal of all the advances made upon him in aftg were borne out of indifference, not obliviousness.
have already said this in detail but i don't think andrew's actually a misogynist; the wording doesn't feel right. i'd probably describe andrew's distrust of women (esp. those in motherly/mother roles) as a similar ingrained wariness that neil has for older men. this is something borne out of trauma and shitty experiences that takes time and trust to unlearn. nora says a lot of things the fandom disregards and for me, this is one of those things i'm a little iffy about. misogyny actually isn't reflected in andrew's actions at all, i'd say. does he respect women? no. but he doesn't respect anyone unless they've actually earned it. and among the people he does respect and care for there are women (renee, bee). he doesn't treat women any differently and obv doesn't think they're any weaker than men are (considering renee wipes the floor w him their first sparring sesh). andrew's an equal opportunity hater and i don't think he actually has any sexist or even misogynistic tendencies. i think what is there is just a slightly biased worldview of disliking/mistrusting mother figures, given his bad experiences w tilda and cass (they've left him w more long-term emotional damage that's probably rlly difficult and complicated for him to work through esp considering cass did love??? him and he did want her enough to be willing to suffer dr*ke to be close to her; there's more to it but for the sake of word count i won't go into it) but honestly it doesn't actually show that much??? if people wanna say he hates women, sure, but for one, he doesn't hate a lot of things he's just very indifferent to them and two, he holds a pretty similar apathetic distaste for most people and things, so it's not like a very big distinction. i also think the whole "no girls" thing w aaron was very much a personal thing, and his mistrust of katelyn probably came from aaron's past (apparently negative) experiences w other girlfriends and friendships in general. and if i remember correctly the deal wasn't even "no girls" it was just "family only" which is why aaron didn't make friends w the rest of the foxes either. i digress but i don't think saying "andrew isn't a misogynist" is robbing him of any nuance as a character.
i like nicky and honestly feel similarly towards him as i do about thea; he isn't perfect and never will be and i think while the way he acts towards neil and others (see: matt, kevin) is pretty untoward and inappropriate, i also do see where he's coming from, esp after aaron's explanation of it. that it's a defence mechanism coming from someone who's experienced a lot of prejudice and harm because of his sexuality. obv i think everyone can agree his assault on neil was fucked up but i think nora was right in saying that nicky was high and drunk and not rlly in his right mind at the time, and he does apologise and i'm pretty sure she also said he and neil work it out privately anyway. he's a messy character and definitely not perfect queer rep but again, he's pretty realistic, and i think he's honestly a rlly well-written and complex character.
#defeated by the fucking word count again#born to yap forced to follow the word limit#zoe yaps#aftg#all for the game#neil josten#the sunshine court#tsc#andrew minyard#thea muldani#aaron minyard#nicky hemmick#andreil
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This is literally the only platform I can say this on because they have me on every other platform, but like, one/two of my transmasc friends are currently hooking up with a guy who's still describing himself as straight, and like.
Is it wrong that that feels icky? It feels like, the opposite of the chasers that are like, "I want to keep this on the DL so people don't think I'm gay." Like, rather than thinking that fucking a girl makes you gay, he's fucking guys and considers himself straight still?
Like, none of my business - there's a reason I'm not posting this where either of those guys will see it, and instead on the Queer Discourse Machine - but like, it feels gross to me.
Not in a sec or sexuality way, but in a "I don't understand how you can have sex with someone if you seemingly don't respect the person they are, and I don't get how sleeping with somebody who proceeds to almost deny your identity doesn't send the strongest of dysphoria shivers down your spine."
Like, if I was sleeping with a girl and she called herself Straight afterwards, I'd be out of there faster than you can blink. I know I'm masculine-presenting, but - and maybe this is just a more restricted view of sexuality than I normally have - I feel like if I'm sleeping with someone, *they* should at least be able to respect me enough not to identify themself in a way that discounts my identity immediately
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Welcome back. Took me a few secs there, haha, with the blog name changed.
Were you still following everything or did you completely detach from kpop while you were away? Just curious.
Hmmm, this is complicated, but I guess being honest about it will do more good than acting detached. Which used to be my spiel back in the BMT days. Not that I was pretending to be someone who I'm not, but a lot of the stuff I wrote and especially how I did was the result of filtering my emotions and reactions through a rational lens. I do that in my day to day life as well, so it's an actual problem, not only the way I present myself as fandom participant.
My initial plan was complete detachment because I ended up hating it. For so many reasons that I don't even remember all of them now. I really wanted a clean slate, but it's not as easy as I thought. I went back to my old blog which consisted mostly of the stuff I reblog now here with the films and pretty photos. I also unfollowed all the fandom-related accounts on twitter. And I tried to go back to my other passions, especially film. And reading some literature instead of wasting hours on a blog. It worked. Until it didn't. Because complete detachment is hard. Like I said in my first post after coming back, giving up smoking was easier. This is another type of addiction. Yes, it is. Is it shameful to admit that? I don't know, but I also don't care much about it and what others think of me based on this.
I closed the blog the day Jimin released Face, but I told myself I would still follow his promotions. And that I can follow one or two Jimin update accounts on twitter and that's it. But it was never just that. Because I still heard stuff here and there and my stupid curiosity got the worst of me and I would look it up and then I'd see opinions. Which is the worst when you try and stay from discourse. And then I would unfollow everything. And then I would go back to it a week, two weeks later. A constant cicle. Which annoyed me to bits. I was angry with myself because I thought I had no will. And it seems so silly in the grand scheme of things, when stuff in my personal life was a lot more important. Perhaps one issue was me always trying to dismiss my participation and contribution to the fandom as something frivolous when it was not. I dedicated time to it for the wrong and good reasons as well.
Tumblr was even worse than twitter. I would check some tags, block accounts that would annoy me and then I would log out. I'd get back to it and look up my blocked list and go through it. As an act of self hate? I don't know, but it was like I wanted to get angry. I was chasing that feeling. All the while telling myself that I don't want to have anything to do with it anymore.
Do I have a problem? Most likely. I know I never had these issues before, but this is the result of my first direct involvement in a fandom and also happening during a period of my life in which a lot of things have changed. And I'm trying to deal with all that and one way of doing it is by focusing on the objects of my interest. I'm still trying to find the answers, solutions, a more healthy way. Rebranding the blog by making it more diverse is one attempt.
#m thoughts#bmt blog#fandom discourse#fandom participation#personal blog#the biggest tmi on this blog so fsr#but whatever#sometimes it needs to be done#get it out of the system
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long saige and fandom take under the cut oh boy
imma be real, i haven't watched a sm/osh video in like a year and a half so i barely know anything about saige. but the moment she stepped on screen i knew people would make it weird, specifically with courtney, because like.... one outgoing pretty white girl is one thing, but a second one is a threat to the ecosystem, right? maybe people don't think they view it that way, but i think that urge to protect/defend the norm can subconsciously trickle into the over-critical analysis of newer members. it happened with boze, and hell, it happened with the traditional squad when they first popped on the scene.
but of course there are people who dislike saige for other "more valid" reasons (none of which i would know or have an opinion on bc again. i haven't watched a sm/osh vid in a hot sec), or for no reason at all. and that's fine! people are allowed to dislike whoever and whatever they want. they don't need to have ~valid~ reasons for disliking someone. they don't even need to have correct/factual reasons for disliking someone. you can try to make someone more informed or more empathetic towards some other person, but ultimately you can't make them like them. that's smthn they gotta work to do themselves if they're invested in it. and i think that's where some of the saige-defenders get a little off-kilter, bc while yes, there is a lot of misogyny and needless hate towards newer (female) members, you can't assume that the people who dislike your faves are inherently and intentionally problematic, nor can you attack them for having differing opinions.
i think the fault lies in both sides of this weird argument. main tagging hate (for a lack of a better word) is sorta rude and corny, and i don't think you can be surprised when smoshblr calls you out on it. likewise, attacking people and being passive aggressive towards those who dislike your faves in an attempt to defend them and cast away "bad fans" probably does more harm than good. (though again, on the other hand, if you're gonna publicly dish it out, you should probably be able to take it, right? lmao)
not to hit yall with the aS i GeT oLdEr cliche, but really, as i drift along the boundaries of the smo/sh fandom and distance myself from my Peak Discourse Days, i realize that sometimes the best thing to do when it comes to smo/sh and most online fandoms is to just... disagree in silence? it feels good to get things off your chest, and yeah, in an ideal youtuber-viewer relationship, maybe sm/osh would listen to our concerns about questionable members and shady business practices. sometimes they do. but most of the time they don't. it is a symbiotic relationship, but smo/sh doesn’t necessarily see it that way.
ultimately smo/sh owes us nothing. they're not gonna change how they run their shit bc you said you dislike one of their members. they're also not gonna thank you for defending them in a petty argument on the internet. no matter how long we've been in the fandom or how loud we've made ourselves heard... sm/osh isn't gonna fuck you! and i've learned that if there's something about sm/osh that you dislike or you want changed or acknowledged, you'd be better off quietly distancing yourself from the content and silently judging certain people and decisions, instead of loudly and publicly advocating for any legitimate change. *shrug*
those are my two cents. tldr: stop being assholes in the main tags and at least learn to be a judgemental asshole in private lmao
#alternative tldr: if i posted about every single thing i disliked or disagreed with related to sm/osh or this fandom#i would be 10x more insufferable#thoughts#discourse#saige
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Hey hope! I spent the night scrolling your blog since I haven't been on tumblr for a while (you might have seen someone fervently reblogging you in your notifs, sorry) and I just wanted to say thank you for creating such a nice space. I got off and went to brush my teeth and do my night routine I had 3 secs of being confused between my hand soap face wash and toothpaste, I know this is extra stupid but this is kind of where I am with the brain lags at the moment, and when my brain was getting ready to attack me with something very mean, what I assume is your voice inside my head met it with something very kind like "it's ok just take it slow take your time it's fine" and I don't know how to explain it but that's exactly the soothing I get from your blog. The content you put on here and your words that accompany it are always very understanding of all sorts of distress but also calming and encouraging and there's also all the cool vibes that just make me feel chill and inspired, I literally went and jotted 5 ideas to write about after logging out, and your takes on discourse always give me hope in the fandom and centre my thoughts back on enjoying things like we used to years ago instead of succombing to the drama and pessimistic tendencies as of late. So yeah, thank you loads. I sort of consider you a friend although we never really talked, but I deffinitely come to you for comfort and excellent humor as I would any friend that I hold dear and feels like I've known forever.
Thank you again, love you loads. Stay wonderful the way you are.
oh.... my... god. grey, ive sat and read this message multiple times and i still don’t have the words to tell you how your words made me feel. this is one of the kindest things i’ve ever been told, and i appreciate that you feel this way towards me and my blog. i’ve been having a rough couple of weeks, and this has made me feel the brightest i have in a while. thank YOU so much for taking my blog and i and digesting it to mean something like that for you. i really don’t deserve it, but thank you thank you thank you 🖤🥺
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hey! I've been meaning to say for a while that you're a really great writer and i like your work a lot. if you don't mind me asking, do you have any advice for writing in the null pov? you do such a great job of it and it's really hard (at least, in my opinion) so your insight would be really great if you have the time :)
Thank you so much for saying such lovely things! :)
As for the POV question, I start with the caveat that I’m working from scratch. Null POV is actually a term I had to invent myself; I’ve never encountered this in the wild. While I’m sure someone has done it before, I’m reasonably well-read and have never come across it. (In fact, if any of you know of a writer who writes in an unanchored POV, tell me where to read them; I’d love to see how someone else does it!)
That said, as someone picking out my way in the dark, here’s a primer on how I write null POV: the obstacles I run into, and how I’ve dealt with them.
If you’re like me, the two main hurdles you’ll probably encounter are your point of view character’s subjective experiences—which you can get around by narrowing the narrative distance (I’ll explain in a sec)—and the physical position of your point of view character—which you can get around by describing relative position and sensation.
Okay. So narrative distance first. By which I mean the distance between the reader and the point of view character. For instance, this is pretty distant:
A tall, thin woman sat alone on a café terrace on a Saturday afternoon.
A little closer, now:
Root checked the time on her phone, looked around, took a sip of coffee, and checked the time again.
And closer still:
Surely Shaw would be coming any minute now. They were due downtown in a scant half hour, according to Her, and Shaw usually responded well to hard deadlines.
The closer in you get, the thinner the layer of subjectivity. So when you want to convey that Shaw’s worried about Root being back too late, jump right into her stream of consciousness (also called free indirect discourse, but that’s for another evening):
Root’s never out this late. She should be back by now. Not even a ghost of the telltale click of her special-mission-occasion stilettos down the hall—just the empty night and the faint squeezebox sound of traffic from the open window.
Here, I’m following Shaw’s thoughts, down to the line of her senses as she brings those into her assessment of the situation.
Frankly, this is the easy one. You’re probably not much in the habit of running subjective filters (I look, I feel, I suspect, I love) through your own thoughts, so cutting them (and, eventually, not even thinking them) while writing becomes pretty easy with a bit of practice. The only trick: when you’re zoomed in that closely, you can’t use language your character wouldn’t use or doesn’t have access to. Shaw’s a smart, educated adult, so vocabulary limitations aren’t a problem, but speaking from my own experience, I often have to dial back some lyricism so it doesn’t veer too far out of character. (Though, to be honest, sometimes I let it slide because I care more about the overall effect than the purity of the POV.)
The second hurdle, bodily relativity, is a little harder to overcome. Say you need to get Shaw from the door to the dining table, where Root is sitting facing the window. Find little touchpoints that move Shaw through the room–tripping over a pile of dirty laundry a few steps in, dropping a jacket onto the bed, grabbing a beer from the fridge–and describe them using sensations, feelings, and narration of events. This one’s super exaggerated to show the technique:
Root’s sitting all the way across the apartment, staring out the window and sipping a glass of water. Figures she’d already be here.
Ugh, time for a trip to the laundromat—almost went down tripping over that pile near the door.
Root looks up at the noise and grins.
“That’s what comes of ignoring your laundry, Shaw.”
“Whatever.” Jacket lands squarely in the middle of the bed—score. Root purses her lips, amused, as she takes in the trail of black shirts freshly tracked across the floor.
Thank god there are still two cold beers in the fridge. The cap pops off the bottle with a hiss of relief.
“Come sit with me.” Root pats the seat next to her.
The chair creaks against the ground like a tired thing. After a long day, it feels incredible just to stretch out, to tug off these damn heavy boots and slimy socks and toss them back toward the bed.
“Cheers,” says Root, clanking the bottle of beer with her glass.
I hope this helps. If there’s a particular bit in a story you want to know more about, or if I can help you work through something specific, let me know!
#null POV#asks from lovely humans#this turned out to be quite the novel#canadianwheatpirates#writing tips
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I saw you mention the senior officer information and just wanted to drop in my 2 cents. Sh!ro is a rank above them yes, but I don't think it necessarily = an abusive dynamic. Sure it's a power imbalance, but not only are they no longer in the Garrison (so it might not even be applicable anymore), but Sh!ro wouldn't abuse his power over any of them. And it's not like they're afraid to stand up to him when they think he's wrong yknow? Ke!th and L@nce have both done this even this past season. 1/2
Hi! One sec I’m going to put this under a cut so it isn’t too long...
I can't recall if Hu/k has, but I feel like he has or will sometime soon. So as long as he wasn't a teacher and not just one of their ranking officers, I feel like it would be fine? The argument also bothers me a little bit. I'm not sure if everyone knows about it in Voltron (anti or not), though I'm sure there are a good few, but R0y@! is canon and is a very popular ship on tumblr and R0y is H@wkeye's superior, but I've almost never seen discourse over it due to his position over her?
Disclaimer: this part is delving into headcanon territory. But on the subject of Sh!ro being a teacher or not: I really don't think he is. Maybe a student teacher or a mentor to cadets at most. But I feel like his relationship is way too friendly with Ke!th starting out, like INTIMATELY friendly, to be a student/teacher relation? Also I don't know... 25 is the safe zone yes, but I can't imagine Sh!ro's older than maybe 23.
I like to think that he had just graduated from being a student/cadet the same year he was put on the mission and was one of the top students, which was why he was chosen to go upon graduation. I also like to think that maybe he tutored/mentored Ke!th? Like a peer mentor? I know a few colleges and high schools will have their graduating class or third years mentor their first year students, help them get used to the school and all. I feel like it would explain their bond a lot? 4/5
That or he was Ke!th's fighting mentor specifically. Admittedly there's no canon evidence whatsoever, we don't see Ke!th fight hand-to-hand and they all would have been instructed in the same combat styles and moves, and it's a little indulgent, but if Sh!ro isn't his peer mentor or tutor, I would at least love that. Battle couples are my fave kind of couples.
My response: Yeah I totally agree! I really can’t see Shiro as a proper teacher either, the paladins definitely respect him in some way but they don’t act like they knew him? Hunk didn’t for sure, Pidge didn’t for sure, and Shiro kind of knew Lance but not well (”It’s Lance, right?”) so Keith was the only person who actually knew Shiro; apparently “very well” according to the staff. What kind of person says “you’re like a brother to me” to their teacher?!
So to say he was their teacher can’t be right... but of course all of this is headcanon so I suppose there isn’t much point arguing over it. But as a theory I agree with everything you said! Also the idea of a fighting mentor is super cute omg. :’o
Your points about that "R0y and H@wkeye” are also good! I don’t have much to add to that though.
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