#Honestly Lowerdecks is doing better in the writing than the live action
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catboyelimgarak · 2 years ago
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I know Gates said she had given (like the other actors) ideas she wanted to see happen for Beverly to grow out of the 80s version, but there were only a few Matalas took from it :/ And to be honest, if her being shoehorned into being Jack's mother is true, it honestly would make sense with how it started and ended yeah (like how the reasons is a very basic idea you see a lot in stories and even real life, which also probably could have been done better so everyone could see her choice on protecting Jack was actually done well. I think it is since it IS basic, buts that’s just personal relatable…also Picard was never good with kids anyways, barely even Wesley, and I think its true: Space Has Taken Her Loved Ones From Her). Also, Gates WANTED to see women be looked on like how the men characters are written as: as someone the people could trust and talk to for advice, especially the young ones like Wesley who always went to go to Picard for help for everything instead of his own open and loving mother. And that in the end Jack goes to Picard and trusts him so easily (like Northstar said; also hello you follow my main lmao) yeah, that’s reversing what little we get of what Gates wanted to see happen of being as important as the characters like Picard (men with high titles). I don't think we even see the writing happen until like Voyager and Janeway being the captain (I havent seen Voyager yet, but damn is Janeway so good from what I see of her).
I guess also with the new boring “Every Season Is A New Story” of 15episodes also probably added to fuck it all over, just an addition to rest of the issues.
All of this is very insightful, especially since I’m not active on Twitter or even follow the guy, so I never saw all the bad replies and blocking! I can already hear/see all the chisme dropping about this later from even more people working closely to him (especially the actors like Gates, who like I said already spoke about only a few of her ideas being taken, but now it being seen how what she fights for and wanted to see being uno reversed towards the end).
Also def hate the lack of the other characters too, like damn, would have loved to see Soji interact with Data, Elnor interact with Worf (Elnor IS like Raff's adopted son, but also suffers the same: Picard Is Amazing Despite Him Hurting My Childhood And Not Being Good With Younger People), and FUCK Rios being kept in the past, that doesnt fucken help the exclusive of Latinos/Hispanic characters from this series as main cast (We got Hugh in Discoveryluckily, but there should be more?), only ok if the character said he wanted to go and do other stuff now, it would be HIS choice for the character not being there and not a simple "we dont need/want you anymore" bullshit.
This is all on top to my already reservations for this season, and those all being the bad writing/references to the other series (especially DS9, like, THE BASE BALL?? WHAT HAPPENED??? AND THE CHANGELINGS?? Shaw's shit writing when talking about them??? I cant even, no mames). It all feels more like a Picard Fantasy Patrick wanted because he was jealous at how well written the newer captains are (Sisko especially) lmao.
But yes, thank you for the reply, and the addition @northstarfan ! This was nice to read and think over and know!
CatBoyElim here! I’m really honestly curious about your opinions of Mátalas! I dont think I’ve really seen anything bad from him in the last Picard season, and the actors just absolutely go ga-ga talking about him (Gates had him on her podcast too), but of course I am so open to hear what everyone else sees! Anything can happen and change too, like with everyone spilling things about Berman after their shows were over.
So my biggest issues with Matalas stem from two major things:
1) his claims that they just didn't have the money to keep and pay "any other new characters" aside from Raffi in order to bring in the TNG actors for Season 3, yet somehow magically had the money to make new young crew members and Shaw and Jack and bring in those actors, and many of them (though admittedly not all) were generally of the white persuasion whereas aside from Allison Pill, the rest of the Motley Crew actors were either Latin or AAPI (not counting Michelle Hurd, who is Black but was included). It looks kind of fishy. Perhaps he just dreamed too big; perhaps he honestly overshot and had to cut back. But it seems hella fishy.
2) how he takes criticism from fans online, specifically femmes and/or LGBTQIA folks. He tends to respond with a snarky remark, if that, and then blocks them. No real dialogue, and tends to post memes saying "build up what you love instead of tearing down what you hate", while still rubbing elbows with more TrekBro/RLM types who shit on most NuTrek and criticize the newer characters and storylines as being "woke" . It's eyebrow-raising how easy it is to get blocked by him, according to many accounts I have followed and even friends of mine. Not to accuse, and perhaps he is indeed a fine dude who's just getting used to being in the spotlight, but it's kind of reminiscent of Joss Whedon and how he interacted with fans - and as a Browncoat who is well aware of what that looked like and what Whedon turned out to be....it is cause for concern.
I also just really don't like his storylines, his new characters, how he handled the concept of Picard having a child (to his credit, he did initially think of it being Vash and it was Sir Patrick Stewart who suggested it would be more likely for it to have been Beverly Crusher as the mother, but the storyline still seems so awkwardly shoehorned in and doesn't make a ton of sense to me), and his choice to yeet the characters of Rios, Elnor, Soji, and Agnes in favor of, well, having a TNG reunion + making a bigot like Shaw and, well, making Jack.
I have a bunch of reasons I don't like Jack, but that's another post.
I hope this helps! Thanks for the ask! 😁
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