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Fruits Basket Manga Review ch (76 & 77)
So, I decided to read the manga mainly in search for a more natural balanced female presentation than the idealistic, shallower, savior depiction of tohru in the anime.
I’m intentionally skipping all the chapters of her as a (mother figure) in yuki’s life & won’t read them or even visit them for comparison with the anime. I love yuki’s growth story & the unique depiction of his platonic relationship with tohru, but if his mother-tohru phase was a drink, then the anime has force fed it to me till it came from my nose! So, for yuki, I’ll be reading his growth past-his mother confession.
I’ve consulted my lovely manga readers friends & thy recommended starting from ch 90 since the content in that chapter was completely cut! but some recommended checking kyoto chapters first since they contain a nice glimpse of the author’s style & artistic vision. Kyoto ep in the anime isn’t focused on “mom-tohru” so, i like the idea! I’ll jump to ch 90 right after ch 77.
- Subtle growth of a woman ( Clash of visions & presentation between the manga’s “ Loosing the wallet with mom’s photo vs the anime’s fractured photo frame):
I really love the underlined connotation of tohru loosing her “mom” unknowingly! In the anime, this scene played without any reference to kyoko & tohru’s attachment to her. We saw tohru the teenage girl confused as she experience romantic love for the first time. Nothing more than that. But the manga says “ Main female MC is way deeper than a (mom-figure) or a (girl in love), In this panel, tohru chases after kyo & unknowingly looses her famous wallet containing her mom’s picture. Here’s what this subtly indicates:
Normally, tohru would notice right away that her wallet is missing, here she never even notice until kyo suggest they hang out together. Subtly indicating that tohru is moving further & further from her phase of “ an afraid, grieving, abandoned child clinging to her mom”.
Normally, tohru would panic, say “ mom is missing” & everyone around her goes into search mode to make tohru at ease (hiro’s ep). Here once she notices, she says “ my wallet is missing” & kyo relaxed & laughingly gives her her wallet back. While he goes to bring the wallet, tohru instead of thinking “ oh nearly lost mom!” is musing over the fact that “it’s strange that kyo can make me happy or sad with one word only”. Subtly indicating that tohru is replacing her mom with kyo as part of growing up from the child she was to the woman she will be.
Tohru calling kyo “mysterious”, subtly explains that tohru is in the uncertain phase of understanding her feelings as a woman & hence, pave the path for upcoming trauma exploration & psychological depth.
The entire scene in the manga is depicted to convey different layers: romance, upcoming growth, & unexplored traumatic issues of abandonment, grief, & human weakness. “ Accepting human Weakness & change” IS the manga’s vision.
In the anime, the fractured picture worked simply becuz no issues of any traumatic experiences with tohru were ever hinted. Nothing abt tohru being a young woman moving away from a traumatic childhood was ever implied beside the weakly sharply cut & forgotten few scenes of her mysteriously going “ im okay” while remembering her dad’s shrine. Was there ever anything abt replacing her mom with kyo? Nope!. Was there anything abt tohru reluctance of loving kyo? Nope! to fix that, let’s shock the audience with empty photo frame! It’ll make the viewers confused & if we play the climax right & give tohru a tearjerker speech confronting akito, all is good. It worked in the anime as it served the purpose it was created for: shock value & drama. ppl bought it. But in the long run, it cemented tohru as the “savior angel” never the “ weak human”. But not many will have issues with that. Having yuki with his impressive story of growth & kyo with his shocking story of pain is enough to distract from the rest. The director must think: What does the audience want?
a woman who’d save the prince with her motherly care?“ Done!”.
a woman who’d love the monster? “ Done !”.
a woman who has her own deep story? no one will miss that~ skip!
-Yuki’s next stage of growth: Friends:
I like how smoother the scene played here. Yes, yuki thinks back to his gratitude to tohru, but it plays subtly & more emphasis is on his friendship with kakeru. No added scene of him waving back to tohru after kakeru which brought the focus back to mom-tohru again. No. Here is way less shoved in your throat. Yuki says how he felt in the moment, moved on to the next stage, thought abt his life & choives, moved on to school. Clear lines that makes yuki more dynamic & way less “ living in his head” character.
Side Notes:
The manga’s art is pretty but expressive! I was afraid it’ll have that weird eyes bigger than the moon & too much sparkles & bubbles like the usual old shojo manga art!
Yuki is way more expressive than the anime & less pretty & sparkly! I welcome this with flowers & songs! lol.
Tohru has “low” pigtails instead of the child-like high pigtails! YES! it is crazy that this trivial change adds so much to tohru’s presentation to the viewers’ eyes. In real life no big deal but in an artistic medium such choices send subliminal messages to viewers minds, that’s why artists spend a lot of time choosing their characters default appearance. It means a lot for the character’s overall path & sends messages. High child-like pigtails: make her look like innocent & naive child since viewers usually associate such hair do with children & toddlers. Low pigtails: are cute girly style that we associate with teenagers & young adult women, it’s practical & cute.
Kyo’s looks as youthful & handsome as the anime but less angry, annoyed & more versatile in his expression! It always bothered me that the anime just go with kyo’s default frowned face, hands in pocket looks unless he should express a key emotion. Also, kyo without an undershirt in his uniform! interesting change from the anime.
I missed kyo’s two buddies! T_T. Why they weren’t in the anime’s finale.. could’ve at least put them in the underwhelming graduation ceremony ~
I really appreciate that yuki’s fanclub are one page, less annoying.
That awkward moment when a manga panel drawn by one person can depict a crowded city more than an anime with a huge team. Like the anime didn’t even need to zoom out for a huge wide shot that showcase its weakness in depicting a crowded city. If you can’t draw that, just zoom in to lessen the effect of emptiness. kyoto isn't a deserted area especially not during a school trip!
The teachers checking on the sneaking vs sleeping students scene is a welcoming sight! XDDD
Hana met kakeru before? saw him & tohru together? weird!!
Kakeru is more focused on tohru here.
I really love the photos taken for everybody. It indicates real good time! Hana eating, yuki around girls, arisa annoyed, kyo teased with playing card: did the play “rich man poor man” again? XD
I’m starting to love yuki more in the manga than the anime!
Kyo having short inner thought abt not being able to tell tohru a girl confessed to him & deciding to say “ none of ur business” is doing wonders to the scene!!! it makes him less mean to tohru & more balanced character. I mean I guessed so in the anime, but what could've prevented making the VA say this short line of inner thought?! Yuki’s VA says essays & essays in nearly every ep abt nearly every character?!.
I liked the way kyo held tohru’s hands when he turned to her, the way he held her hand in the anime is a bit weird. lol. Also, in this scene, tender gentle kyo is so well-done both in the anime & manga. The manga wins for the zoom in & focus on emotions, tho.
Next is chapter 90!
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Fate: Winx something Ep 4!
oooh will they find out it was Beatrix. interesting
I swear Beatrix looks like an edgy emo but in the dark and mysterious way. I love her
also i can’t pin point where Riven’s actor is familiar ti me from
oof. EmoteMusa why not just tell Terra you like her brother??? like she’d be chill?? no?
oh boy.. Terra don’t you forgive him.
Stella ffs we discussed this last ep. it needs to be a 50/50 relationship not you depending on him 100% of the time
HAHAHAHAHHA omfg the clapback holy shit. that was amazing Terra. you fight your own battles.
hELL YEA SAM GO PUNCH EM
this girl never listens. honestly.
oh wait... is Beatrix named that cause it’s Trix... as in The original Trix... wow did that actually take me 4 ep to realise.. geesus
omfggg EmoteMusa and Sam are hilarious xD i love em.
insane amount of sex references tho. not entirely hating all of them. some yes like Riven and his butt stuff like geesus, but it ain’t all bad.
oh my glob gunna faintly call it no, are Sky and Bloom simblings/ step siblings? is this going to be a Shadow Hunter type of thing? it’s his dad and her mom? maybe diff moms? same dad? or something? just a wild card guess
any kind of affair is bad Beatrix but she is semi correct, emotional affairs are worse than physical ones however, both are just as bad.
EmoteMusa and Sam are much cute
yes, being empath seems like hell, what are the benefits again?
Beatrix be evil but i still love her xD
...who broke Stella... what happened?????
gEESUS NO PARENT HERE KNOWS HOW TO PARENT
oh wow that’s... fancy..
dude you are literally lying to her face...
oh gawd they be catching on, oh shit Beatrix phones are expense don’t just fry them.
i love how manipulative she is omfg xDDD
HAHAHAHA SEX ADDICT LEADING YOU AROUND BY YOUR DICK HAHAHAH
lol steal a car 😹😹😹
adults learning the hard way that maybe they should keep people involved in the loop of it all xD
holy... shit... oh my glob Beatrix is from there isn’t she?
CALLED IT
Oh my glob are they sisters???? is there not such an option to accidentally bump into the barrier thing and see that tho??? so confused but whatever
okay not sisters...
NO BEATRIX OnO look i know that maybe evil but maybe jusitce????? bUT STILL!!!!
EmoteMusa THANK YOU FOR FINALLY TELLING TERRA I TOLD YOU SHED BE COOL WITH IT.
oh nu bye Stella
i see why Stella treats people the way she does but also she does consider them friends.
BEATRIX BBY NUUU ;n;
wow all adults are manipulative cunts. i don’t care if it’s “for the greater good” if it’s for the greater good then tELL PEOPLE
what... the fuck... you’re calling her real life parents??? that’s just cheap. also if Bloom actually tells them shit that legit goes against everything we have learned about Bloom’s relationship to her parents
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6, 20, 50 (I dont think you've done these yet? I hope???) (also yes I am using this as an attempt to force content out you bc I love your stuff so much)
aksdjf;lasdkjfakdsjfksjdf IM GONNA EXPLODE ILY I had to put a cut there because alkjdf;lajsdfkj I GOT RAMBLY aljd;faljkdsf Im sorryyyy adlfkjads;kflj
6. Favorite character you ever created.
oh this is so fucking hard XDDD
it’s probably a tie? ja;ldsfkj there’s just so many and I love them all--
Ok I’m making myself narrow it down to at least 3, I think it’s gotta be Chris, Ezra, and Ash
Chris: is part of this story idea I had that involved immortal people. She was an assassin sleeper agent who didn’t know it and she ends up living with/ befriending a bunch of immortals and then there’s the drama of her later having to kill them. In the begining she’s really emotionless and blank since she has no memories, but by the end she’s ridiculously in love and has a family so alskdjf;asl
Ezra: this bb boy is from Reclaim actually, so my alien/ angel/ immortal phase that I ^^^^evidently never REALLY grew out of XD. He’s a prince with a massively fucked up backstory and mommy issues, but his mom’s murder gets pinned on him so he has to “Reclaim” the throne (aha). He’s very high strung, wickedly smart, and basically raised his two younger siblings. He’s also kind of a massive asshole XD.
Ash: she’s from Just South of Casual!! The main character actually. She’s very problematic and at the beginning of the story recovering from a suicide attempt. She’s very non-challant and callous about everything (literally she starts the book by calling people babies for being upset that the worlds ending) but by the end she’s got bffs and a boyfriend and is just overall in a much better place.
(can you spot the underlying theme XDD)
20. Post a snippet of a WIP you’re working on.
>:) I got this one but don’t worry, it might be cheating a bit but here’s a snippet of JSoC XD <3
“Well, it’s the end of the world, time to cash in on miracles,” I said, he rolled his eyes, any spark of the anxiousness I’d seen moments earlier gone.
“You believe in miracles?” he asked pointedly. I noticed his eyes dip to my wrists, he probably didn’t even mean to do it and I pretended I hadn’t seen it.
“You met me,” I said with a grin I didn’t feel.
Cal glared at me. “I’m being serious, how do we plan on finding someone in a huge city?” he said, I shrugged.
“Why don’t you just text her?” I asked, he made his face at me.
“She doesn’t have a phone.”
“How about her dad?”
“No.”
“We could pretend to be–”
“No.”
“Acquaintances?”
“No.”
“Stalkers?”
“No.”
“Stop saying no.”
“No.”
I growled at him and he glared back.
(I love Cal, so much.)
50. Weirdest story idea you’ve ever had.
Ok this was actually the hardest one to come up with adkjf;ldf I managed to narrow it down to 2 because kajds;fljasdjl I WRITE WIERD OK?? XDD
Murderous: this one was mostly weird because of the style I was trying to write in, but it was about this guy and girl who try to hook up at a wedding, get the wrong room, accidentally kill the actual owner, and cover it up. 5 years later the guy calls the girl and says he wants to come clean, she races over to try and convince him NOT to, and finds out he’s dying from cancer. They end up becoming friends again, but then the guy finds out who she is, realizes “oh no” and dies without coming clean. The girl then confesses to the murder after, and the story is told from the POV of her best friend who’s getting told this for the first time while girl is in prison and is REMARKABLY bitchy that she was never filled in.
The Likelihood of Living: this one’s weird because of the mc, Dye. The book was a zombie apocalypse story--Dye wakes up immune and invisible to zombies and also with a really weird addiction to pineapple. He’s also like, really not sane at all and very good at pissing people off but he’s on good terms with the local war-lord Devito (Dye’s the one telling the story so YES like Danny Devito )))):<) because he hoarded a bunch of pineapple scented hair gel and Devito’s obsessed with it. Eventually tho, Dye pisses him off enough that D decides he wants Dye dead so he sends his top 2 enforcers after him. They drag him back but end up actually coming to like him and yeah, they escape.
I’m sorry this is so rambly I just went on and on alsdkjf;lasdkjf
#asks#luci doesn't shut up#not joking Dye is stuck in my fucking head and he bothers the hell out of me#if you wanna know what he looks like jsut imagine basically Carter with darker skin a ridiculous amount of those tourist-flower shirst#a stupid love for absolutely MASSIVE sunglasses#and an addiction to pineapple and pissing people off#he's also like#horrendously gay#XDD#I lvoe him but god I wish he'd get out of my fucking head
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Hi mom!!!!! I'm doing a facemask rn (not a sheet mask tho I hate those) and just like a minute after I got it on the underneath of my eye started itching 😭 and I can't really see bc I dont have my glasses on but thats ok I can see everything within a foot of me at least lmao anyways how are youuuuu -Charlie
Mom this is horrible how do people do this on a regular basis the mask is pulling on my skin and I Hate It send help -Charlie
Oh no, my love! I hope you survived your face mask experience!! I actually LOVE using sheet masks bc i’m a korean skincare slut and if i could afford it id do sheet masks everyday! xDDD
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Awww thank u! Never seen questions asked like this before!
Tagging: @miss-nagatoro @bakugous-sandbag @nanamithecute @sendhelpimstupid and anyone really!
I'll go with my mosshead babe here 😌
1: I don't think Zoro would give me his jacket unless I beg asked for it, although he is very observant so mabey 40% chance of him ACTUALLY giving his jacket to me xdd
2. Me of course UwU mf stronk so Im sure he would be the one carrying my fatass lol (but I wouldn't complain 😏)
3. Me again 😅 Zoro isn't the type to give compliment other (specialy not infront of people cuz he just gets blushy UwU) and because he isnt very good with words too. He probably would tell me something like "You look alright" or "It looks good.." while having a lil tint in his cheecks, that's how i know how much i affect him 😉
4. Well Im not really the one to give joke (i kinda suck at giving joke lol) but i would mostlikely give him a couple of joke to him, he wouldn't probably react much other than a small smirk or a lil chuckle, depending how "bad" it was probably would tell how bad it was even tho he's smiling 😁
5. If it was Zoro I would probably give him a lil space before going to him, he like to distress in training so I would just wait for him until his done and take a lil relaxing shower together. I would give him messages and lil pecks and once dried and changed i would cuddle with him and just stay there in silence.
Kinda the same case if it was to me Zoro would probably take to train to take some stress or just cuddle and watch the tv or something like that.
6. There wouldn't look that different tbh, kinda lazy if u ask me xdd
7. Me (AGAIN LMAO) pretty sure my family would consider him a decent guy, my mom would honestly feel a lil worried cuz u know...this is Zoro se talking about 🤦♀️, but nonless my family would welcome him
8. Zoro would be the employee and I would be costumer (althought i dont like coffee) i just wanna see him dealing with a Karen xddd
9. We would be touching with our knees MABEY i lil shoulder touching too, Zoro's not the one for PDA so not that much touch feely unless no one's watching 😊
10. To make him happy is by buying him fucking alcohol lmao, mabey also muy some gym equipment too. But also training or exercising with him makes him smile (bonding time)
Zoro would buy me my favorite snacks, and some art supplies! Also probably cudduling <<333
11. Nothing really, we would probably forget the date x ddd but mabey just a lil night walk after eating in a restaurant (yes, sanji's the chef cuz has cooking BOMB 👌👌👌)
12. I don't think either of us woulded known unless one of us confessedksksnsm. I would think it would happen in a rainy day, it wouldn't really be a romántico escenario mabey in a lil argument and our feelings just pour out (we'd have tomato face xdd)
Idk i never really thought about it xdd
13. Both of us really, but mostly when no one's looking UwU
14. I don't think we would do that lmao i ain't much of a playlist person, but I do think he would in a way, they're mostly songs he listens for gym or something like that
15. I do kinda think Zoro would, i mean it just laying and looking at the starts, but him mostly sleeping lmaooo but nonless el detaye está ahí
So yeah i luv my green dumbass xdd
Otp Questions
Who offers their jacket when the other is cold?
Who giggles uncontrollably when the other playfully picks them up?
Who compliments the other in front of everyone?
Who is more likely to tell the other a pun and what is the other’s reaction to the pun?
When one of them has a bad day, what does the other do to help cheer them up?
If they got to pick what one another wears for a day, what would one another wear?“
Who introduces their partner to their family first? How does it go?
In a coffee shop AU, who would be the coffee shop employee and who would be the customer?
When they sit side by side, do they touch one another? For example, does one person has their arm around the other, do they sit holding hands, or linked arms, ECT.
What is a small thing that one another does to make their partner happy?
What would they do to celebrate their one year anniversary?
When did they know that loved each other, and when did they first tell each other that they loved one another?
Who likes to give the other hugs from behind followed by a kiss?
Who would make a playlist for the other person? What would be featured on the playlist?
Who would bring their partner on a romantic date under the stars?
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Thoughts on ep5 & 6
So...I just watched the episodes on YouTube... Damn I'm so late 😂 I've got things going on so, I'm not in the mood to watch until today...
Okay, it was great ! I like it :DDD there's a few things I want to talk about :
The kids laughing and ridiculing(?) Ali. I actually love this scene because this is the reality. In Malaysia, many people face this situation. Failing and getting laughed at. That's why, we have so many shy kids and adults. And this also makes the kids think, " I don't want to try this, if I fail, it would be super embarrassing" and this lead to many kids does not want/too lazy/afraid of trying. Guess what happen then? The kid who tries hard will be laughed at then. I won't compare to other countries since I don't really know about the others o.o
About Rudy. I don't know either I like him or not 😂 He's a jerk but he seems...tsundere? But, one thing I love is he's a responsible person. He puts the mission as his priority. He's cool tho
I love Viktor XDDD he's just a lovable character <3
Okay, ep 6 is I don't know-- I don't dislike it but it's okay :)
It's sad that Ali and his father is not so close :( but at least Ali still respect and love his father. Cause you know, kids who don't receive much love from family, tends to be close to their friends. And they become rude to their parents. But then, Ali is verbally(?) bullied in school so, basically he's alone :( (good grief there's comot and Viktor)
That baby is annoying 😂 he's the reason I was cursing while watching lol
Ali's mom....does she has any relations to MATA ? I wonder how did Bakar joins MATA ?
That feels in the end...
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Haha I'm sorry if I was a bit to intense on my post🤣💜 I guess one of the reasons why I'm so passionate about my dislike of Pudding is because I joined the OP fandom around the time of her villain reveal in the manga, and me and my friends/the whole OP fandom on Tumblr were absolutely vivid about it XD I still remember the countless evil!Pudding fanarts, theories about her possibly manipulating Big Mom with her Devil Fruit and being the secret puppeteer of the Yonko crew, not to mention that her character really seemed like the perfect opportunity to challenge Sanji's views on how women 'are always fragile with pure tears and need his protection'. Yooo I recall someone even started a post about a possible Pudding vs Sanji fight situation and we were all losing our shit about it although it was super unrealistic to happen, even back then XDDD One Piece was even trending because of the chapter, the picture of Sanji crying while failing to light his cigarette was everywhere we were all collectively losing our marbles auqbdbw
I still remember when me and my friend praised Oda in dm's for subverting our expectations, how he was being so self-aware and smart for deconstructing his arguably most overused trope to hit us with this intense and insanely well timed villain reveal- damn, it sure was something🤣
And then, when the wedding happened,,, it was like a cultural reset. Scratch noise and freeze frame. Ice Age 5: Collision Course. It was that moment when Patrick excitedly ran out of the store to have fun but Spongebob yelled "NO WAIT PATRICK!" and he completely froze in place, face filled with uncertainity of the future and regret.
Posts praising Oda for Pudding were deleted and replaced with memes about female characters being unable to be pretty + evil. The OP fandom was a soap opera and we were living the good life XD
You're definitely right tho, it's also a lesson learned- if you don't get your hopes up too much in the first place, you're less likely to end up so disappointed :'D
About Hiyori- I really hope her relationship with Zoro will just remain some "other characters think they're a thing when they're actually not" kinda joke??? Idk I felt seriously bad for mosshead in the anime OMG he looked so confused and uncomfortable whenever Hiyori threw herself at him aqudjwnw like girl give the guy some space please XD
Rip the anime truly turned Hiyori into a monstrosity :'D I don't remember most of her manga presence and how it differs from the anime tbh because the pacing was pretty different and unlike in the episodes Oda didn't spend eternities on a single scene... I still laugh when I think back to the sumo fight in the anime and how Luffy and that yokozuna guy spend a whole ass minute franctically waving their arms trying not to fall out of the ring pfff
Huhu and I love the headcanon of Hiyori being a lesbian, and Denjiro making sure she never has to deal with dudes being all grabby or disgusting towards her in private. Also would have been cool if he taught her to defend herself, especially considering the 'field' she's working in but oh well- It would be funny if she got to meet Hancock and Pudding and they all collectively come to the conclusion that they're actually gay and over-exagerrating their 'crushes' on the Monster Trio 'cause they don't know how to deal with people being real nice to them and immediately jump onto this weird 'omg guy is not a douche to me does this mean we're in love?!?!' train many lesbians experience before they realize that they don't like guys XD
Pudding's case is fascinating - because this is an example of a WELL written subplot, but Pudding's design doesn't match the given backstory AT ALL. Would it make sense for a young girl from abusive family who spent her whole life mocked by mother and siblings for her appearance and developing a complex because of it to turn sides because someone finally treated her like a human being and said something nice to her? Of course! (part 1)
Oh boy this is gonna be a bit long I'm sorry xD
I feel like I should preface this by saying that Pudding is one of my absolute least favorite characters in OP for many reasons, but since most of them don't have anything to do with the topic at hand I'll try to keep myself from straying too much :'D
But before I get to the issue with her design, I have to say this: although the premise of Pudding's subplot makes sense and fits in with the overall theme of domestic abuse present throughout WCI, the execution of her character is,,,, not really something I'd call very well-written, to be honest😅?
Her insecurities or inner hurt is not explored beyond the flashback/compliment, which was also not build up at all, there isn't another significant moment where she reflects more on how Sanji's treatment of her contrasts with what she previously faced, or even the many parallels between them and how they both stem from abusive households yet choose to deal with their inner pain in different ways is never explored.
I always thought it was kind of a waste that you have an arc supposedly centered around Sanji being the 'kindest', yet his kindness didn't really seem to inspire her to change her view on herself. Which, if I'll be honest, was what I was expecting after Pudding broke down- that she would get to have a genuine talk with Sanji, demonstrate her initial conflicted feelings at his comment because she was never complimented before, and go through some self-reflection and exploration by really looking at their stories of abuse and how that molded her into who she is now. But... naga. She is turned into somewhat of a joke and everything her character did before is pushed aside and not adressed again.
With the premise Oda set up there could have been done so much more with her, but in my eyes, Pudding is one of the most disappointing characters he has written post-TS and a good example of unused potential.
She had great potential as a villain too, and I won't lie, I was incredibly disappointed when she was revealed to be just another 'tragic' female character, but even then her 'redemption' or whatever it was that happened with her could have been handled so much better and just feels like a repetition of what we've already seen in this, and even previous arcs: aka, woman has man call out her problems/take care of her problems, she has a realization, her character development is done.
As far as princesses go her character breaks out of the mold a little, admittably, yet her struggles are barely explored, and given how much excitement there was for her to be an actually unexpected female villain after her betrayal of Luffy and Sanji, her suddenly breaking down crying and having that flashback felt incredibly flat and honestly,,,, kinda forced, after everything that happened? Also why did Oda first set up a vague connection between her and Lola, their shared desire of being free, but then,,,, completely switched to making her character all about being insecure about her physical appearance instead? Especially when we get Katakuri later and his position/struggles within the family are, imo, explored a lot more than Pudding's, even though she's had far more screentime and is arguably more important to BM's overall cause.
Eeeeeeeeehhh but I'm ranting again lol there is much to be said about her character, but on how that ties in with her design:
I completely agree on that, Pudding looking the way she does and being referred to as a 'monster' honestly felt like a fucking slap in the face xD I mean even some of her weird '100% human' siblings (Perospero, Opera, whatever the hell Kato is-) look more like monsters than she does. Also in her flashback Pudding was only shown to be bullied by her mother and citizens- (none of her siblings were shown to be involved, they generally seem to turn more of a blind eye when it comes to the abuse from their mother? Which is just as bad tho) but I kept wondering, "which citizen in their right mind would bully the daughter of a fucking Yonko, especially when there are so many other freaky things walking around in Tottoland xD?"
It's blowing my mind and honestly made her backstory even less believable.
The other examples you mentioned are all things I wholeheartedly agree with as well- hhhh Hancock's overplayed 'crush' on Luffy is still something that haunts me whenever it's brought up, the same goes for the unfortunate treatment of Tashigi rip
I absolutely think that Oda is partly influenced by editors, and of course when it comes to female characters, fanservice for future merch must play a big role as well- yet at the same time I can't help but wonder, when every women looks almost identical to the next one, are fans really gonna be that excited about new merch anymore...?
I mean look at this and tell me Robin and Hancock don't look the exact damn same-
My worst issue with how Oda writes women lately is that you can sometimes see what he's going for, what he could be doing, but he hardly carries through anymore and instead reverts to over-used tropes. I was really expecting Komurasaki to be this hardboiled samurai daughter who doesn't take shit from anyone and proudly stands her ground, but then he turned her around and gave us Hiyori, whose interactions with Zoro I can barely watch,,,, and let's not even talk about Toki,,,,
Kiku is like the only female character I care for in Wano so far.
Man I just wish we could have something like Otohime, Bellemere, or pre-TS Robin again :( Who were allowed to be actual characters-
Or a case like Connis, who was first introduced as a maiden-like character but then began questioning what was happening on Skypeia and ultimately had this badass bazooka moment while denouncing Enel hhhh---
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RP Island: Day 9
FILE RELOADING... COMMENCING NEW TIMELINE
Bp/Jonathan: @mynameisntburgerpants Sans: @im-sans-ational Swap: @thepositivescientist Rony: @skelehomie Valund & Duran: @prometheanpotential Haze: @nature-is-hazy Kalahan: @fatesfeated Grillby: @flameofsnowdin Emmy: @firefaeshion G/Gill: @two-in-one-skele (me)
Yumi, Nami and Frederick belong to me!
*I redid the day and it, thankfully did not freeze, this time
Here we go again!
Gave her the same and personality for continuity sake. I was also too lazy to find another baby name and it’d generally not make sense if I didn’t keep her the same, anyway.
Well, someone is pissed...
Well, fuck you too Gill, geez... (ik I gave him that line XD)
Ah... that’s why
Have a bath. [INSERT LENNY FACE HERE] XD
Yes, friends forgive each other! :>
XDDD why??? Is it because of Grillby? XDDDDDD
Oh, god, here we go (they are friends now. Rony... it begins XD)
I thought you were a winter guy! Then again...
What are you going to go shopping for? Fabric supplies?
Sleepy babee <3 (I was rocking her to stop crying. :>)
I told him to go to the Foutain and uhhhh...
Look how distant they are??? Look how Yumi looks dead inside???? My god, she doesn’t look happy at all... ;-;
Of course you’d have a fish dream that you,re a seaweek! Marred to a fucking fish! XDDD
RIP Haze! XDD
Even though these two argue a lot, they are pretty good friends :>
You’re very self-aware, Swap XDDD
WHAT THE FUCK!?
You are correct! But i think if Sans would do that he’d literally be joking though
PFFFT
I gotta test her too! XD
OMFG THIS IS THE WORST, EMMY! HOLY SHIT! XDDDDD
Sunflower boy/girl! >:3
Keep doing what you do best, Frederick! :>
She wanted something cute, so there you go! XD
Not to mention the Underground!
They just won a match of Metroid in NintendoLand (you can’t actually see it, but I recognized the sound)! It brings back so many memories of me playing with my best friend and trying to beat the last level! HOLY SHIT so much screaming were had, especialy when we won! XDDDD
CONTEXT: I DIDN,T FUCKING READ WHAT SWAP WAS TALKING ABOUT SO I SAID “SURE” AND APPERENTLY HE’S PLANNING ON MATCHING
FUCKING GAY MAN(tm) YORU AND MIPHA! OH NO! XD
And, as expected, it did not hit off! XDD Swap you idiot! XDDDDDD
RIP SWAP XD
OMF- YES THERE WAS A TRANSFORMATION SEQUENCE THAT I COUDN’T SCREEN SHOT!
OMG YOUR HAIR XDDDD
WHAT??? AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE WEIDEST DREAM SO FAR! XDD
XDDDD I PUT RANDOM ON THER FACES AND THE BABY IS WIKING BACK AT HER MOM!! XDDDD LOOK AT HOW HAZE IS SO SHOOK! XDDDD
Yumi, omg! XDD
They were getting married, apperently. Coconut and straberry shortcake is like the worst combination XD
And so I TOOK HIS WIFE! XDDD
Also this is Rony’s dream and I’m not surprised she of all people had a food related dream. XD
IDK MAN! DOESN’T HE KNOW? XDDD
Whyis it a fluke tho? Ah, nevermind actually you are very opposite from each other. XDDD
DON’T DO IT, GRIILBY! IT’S A TRAP!
Crisis averted! XDD (I could do some symbolism here but it’s literally just some celery. XDD does Grillby like celery? XDDDDD)
Funny how Swap still has the same dream but with a quiche now. I feel like a quiche makes sense. XDD
It ain’t an MTT casheir hat butit’ll do. Yes, I’m being mean to him! XDD
HOW ABOUT YOU STOP BEING SO IC! IT’S FREAKING ME OUT! XD
Metaphor that Yoru feels his friends’ problem are weighing him down
Don’t go too close of there Emmy! Today was an odd day though, way less interesting then the erased timeline, which is sad. But, hey at least we got to see a lotof odd dreams today! :>
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heart- Describe a time when you fell in love
(Oh, boy XDDD)
Well, I’d never fallen in love before and Wade’s the only guy I’ve fallen in love with and still going strong nao (and I intend to keep it that way :3) If I had to describe how I fell in love with him tho…
There were a lot of times I felt like what I’m feeling for him was different but the biggest giveaway that slapped my face was at my cousin’s and sister’s birthday. My mom wasn’t around so I took the opportunity to hide in my cousin’s bedroom to chat with him on Tumblr (it’s an everyday thing at this point XDDD)
I took a bit long to reply to him and I apologized with all the exaggerated emojis I use XDDD Then he teased me and said “It’s okay. I know how unimportant I am >
“Nope. I know the hierarchy. Spaghetti is more important than me” By then I thought “omg. This guy is nuts XDDDD” and it struck me how much he wanted to spend time with me and how much he’d set aside time just to talk to me. He added that it was fine if I was gone a bit and he could wait. At this point, my heart melted for him because I felt that he did miss me from being gone so I offered him a virtual hug. And he just willingly took it :3
His description for it was *pulls to a hug* or something like that and at that point, I was very utterly flustered, head over heels, stomach filled with butterflies, and I knew I was screwed owo
And that was how I became crazy, kids XDDD
bubbles- what motivates you?
Mons!
But seriously XDDD I think what motivates me most is the vision of how much positivity I can leave to the world? Like I would not be content if I spent my life hidden somewhere and that I haven’t reached out to as much people as I can.
I want to inspire, create, and build. I want to leave a mark on this world that people will look at what I’ve done and think to themselves, “Yeah! If this person can do it, I can get through this!!”. I don’t care if I have a title or if my name is known. Pish-posh. I just want to create things that people will look to and get inspired by.
That’s more than enough for me :3 And that’s what I want to do. Which is why I do what I do. I just want to leave a bit of light for people to see. A bit of hope for people to hold onto. If I’ve done that, I’m satisfied -w-
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who is more likely to hurt the other?
-- more than likely Dice. as much as i hate to say it. Dice is definitely a nice guy, but he can really lose it and hurt others by accident (but once he realizes what hes done, he will apologize for like, hours to weeks on end. (this is why he always has peppermint in his mouth around others.)
who is emotionally stronger?
-- that... can depend. Dice is basically almost emotionless a lot of the time for safety reasons. but it can switch from 0 to 100 in a millisecond for him, his mind is, well, kinda broken i guess you could say haha. so its hard to say, i mean, the emotionless part is mainly the peppermint talking, otherwise his emotions pretty much run wild. Peppermint i could guess could get rather emotional seeing as he has some past things going on that i myself (and maybe Dice as well) do not know about.who is physically stronger?-- Dice. i’m not gonna lie hes pretty strong, even if his arms are all cut up from cutting himself due to his suffering thing hes got going on. He may or may not have knocked some teeth out with his strength.who is more likely to break a bone?
-- depends on if your talking about the character breaking someone’s bone or breaking their own bones. Dice can break someone’s bones if he wanted through constant beating and or bending the specific limb. i’m sure hes done it once when he was full on insane. haha.as for breaking their own bones, probably Peppermint. now, i’m not saying Peppermint isn’t careful, or that he is clumsy or something, just a little more likely than Dice. i see them as both being very careful people, er, monsters.who knows best what to say to upset the other? -- Possibly Peppermint? i mean, i don’t think Dice would be able to actually being to purposefully do that. more than likely on accident. but i don’t really think they would say anything to upset each other purposefully. (although, once Dice Confesses about his past, that info can be used to make Dice highly upset ahah.)who is most likely to apologize first after an argument? -- this legit has Dice’s name on it. he DOES NOT want to upset or get into arguments with Peppermint. he loves him too much and does not want to lose him. so yes, hes probably gonna apologize like 30 seconds after the argument. lol.who treats who’s wounds more often? -- UM HAHAHAHA WELL... Dice isn't really one to get hurt unless he went and got into a fight. this of course does not count his constant self harm. Peppermint doesn't know about that. i don’t think he wants Peppermint to know so hes not worry about Dice. plus Dice might be stubborn about being bandaged up, he would probably feel embarrassed.so probably Dice treating more of Peppermints wounds? (if he gets any??)who is in constant need of comfort? -- BOTH OF THEM?? LIKE?? THESE POOR CHILDREN NEED THE COMFORT THEY BOTH COMFORT EACH OTHER LOTS I’M SURE.who gets more jealous? -- i mean, i see them as both getting jealous when it comes to the other?? i feel like Peppermint would but i could be wrong.all i gotta say for Dice-- don’t touch (unless its a simple hug, he understands those) or flirt with his bae unless you want people to find your body (or in a monster’s case, dust) scattered around the ground.who’s most likely to walk out on the other? -- Peppermint. i only say this because Dice doesn't want to at all walk out on Peppermint no matter the reason. even if Peppermint were to cheat on him (hypothetically), he still wouldn’t. he would be upset (hey there you go) but he would not walk out.who will propose? -- Dice. no doubt about it.who has the most difficult parents?-- WELL IF WERE TALKING ABOUT CREATORS ID SAY PEPPERMINTas for actual Parents in canon, well, i don’t know anything about Peppermint’s canon parents.as for Dice, well, i guess you could say they were difficult. his mom left the family (which also cut half the income) causing Gaster (Dadster lol) to stay at the lab and work constantly. luckily his mom stayed long enough and cared enough to teach Dice about taking care of the house and how to cook, sew, etc. his mother is why hes such a neat freak. that and he had to care for Atticus for almost all of Atticus’s life.who initiates hand-holding when they’re out in public? -- pEPPERMINT LOL. Dice keeps his hands in his pockets most of the time tho. but i don’t doubt that Peppermint would pull out his hand to hold it, and Dice would let him! (not to mention the major blush that will appear on Dice’s face lol)who comes up for the other all the time? -- hate to disappoint but i have no idea what that exactly means, so uh, ...???who hogs the blankets? -- (Dice: wtf is a blanket) Probs Peppermint, because most of the time Dice doesn't even realize hes covered with a blanket when he is. hes so used to sleeping without one. hahawho gets more sad? -- ...okay so, i know i said earlier Dice is more than likely emotionless most times than not, i do know Peppermint doesn't like to get sad. so i see this as more Dice than Peppermint. but i could be wrong.who is better at cheering the other up? -- honestly Peppermint just being around Dice cheers Dice up. so i feel like it would be Peppermint. but not only for that reason for sure. haha.who’s the one that playfully slaps the other all the time after they make silly jokes?-- neither?? i mean, let me tell you, Dice loves puns, he really does, he used to occasionally make one back when everything was normal for him. (he didn't constantly do it, he felt like he would annoy everyone.) but even now a days he cant help but at least chuckle a little if a pun is made. but he definitely doesn't make them very much anymore. its pretty rare actually. and he certainly would slap anyone.i’m not sure if Peppermint makes puns or jokes, but i highly doubt he would slap anyone after making one.who is more streetwise?-- Dice Definitely. he literally is homeless he knows everything out there.who is more wise?-- Peppermint. Dice was never really interested in knowledge as such. it bored him. so he ain’t that kind of smart lol.who’s the shyest? -- ppffftt Dice. Dice is very shy when it comes to Peppermint. he doesn't want to do anything wrong. he wants to make sure of what Peppermint is okay with and not okay with. but don’t get him riled up, or try to be dominate over him though, because he will easily switch that shyness to confidence and dominance without hesitation.who boasts about the other more? -- okay i honestly have no idea if Peppermint boasts about Dice. but Dice would definitely boast about Peppermint and talk about how hes the best boyfriend ever. lolwho sits on who’s lap? -- Peppermint sits on Dice’s lap. Peppermint doesn't get a choice. its either that or they are sitting beside each other. (i don’t think Peppermint would appreciate it if Dice sat in his lap anyway XDD)Here you go anon!!
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July 6th, 2017 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on July 6th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on Oops Comic Adventure by Cyndi Foster and Jeramy Hobz.
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RebelVampire
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Oops Comic Adventure by Cyndi Foster and Jeramy Hobz ~! (https://tapas.io/series/Oops-Comic-Adventure-3) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
DracoPlato
hmmmm
I liked when Oops used the magic to escape the library, and when the wood elves let us hear his thoughts
RebelVampire
i wonder if hell learn to be a telepath from the wood elves. laugh in the face of his sacrifice cause he found a loophole to get around it
DracoPlato
I think it'll go that way since they introduced it as something he needs to learn. Either that or he'll break the seal on him and be able to talk again. Although the convenience of the wood elves knowing thought magic and wanting to teach it to him leads me to think that'll be pursued despite his current failure of their test
RebelVampire
i assumed tbh that he hadnt failed the test and everything thats happening at current is actually still part of the dream
and its part of the test so he can let go of his issues or whatever
clear the mind and all that
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
my favorite scene is the scene where they first meet the forest guardian XD
the "it could be the tree you kicked in the face" line was hilarious
DracoPlato
yeah i'd wondered that too rebel, if it was still just part of the dream
that was a good one too AE~! XD
I like that the forest guardian can transfer conciousness through various vegetation(edited)
RebelVampire
i liked that the forest guardian is a troll and put faces on the flowers just to freak oops out XD
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah though the trick he played on oops with the flowers was genius but dirty too
lol!
rebel and i think alike
DracoPlato
hahaha, I liked that scene too XD where the flower he tries to replant with the face facepalms into the dirt XD
RebelVampire
granted to be fair i dont think i wouldve liked the scene if talon hadnt of shown up and scolded the forest guardian. told him to stop playing shenanigans with the flowers
mathtans
I kinda liked the rat being beat up by trees...
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah true
lol maths!
mathtans
I didn't get all the way through again this week though. ^.^
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i love plague XD
DracoPlato
that's okay Maths~!
I like Plague too, but I also really like rodents, lol
mathtans
I find plague really annoying actually. x.x That's why I like when things kinda remind him he should be grateful for being alive by smacking him around.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
the creator did great facial expressions on him
RebelVampire
i dont actually care for plague either but that in large has to do hes too energetic for rebel. rebel cannot fathom having that much energy
DracoPlato
yeah! I like Plague more later on than in the beginning, when he was playing pranks in the city i wanted to punch him XD
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
i wanted to duct tape his lips
mathtans
Yeah, for me it was like, you've been brought back from the dead! Given the ability to speak! Amazing magic, what will you do with it! "Imma gonna bug people." .... ... Though I gather the idea is Oops' tendency for shenanigans was given to him with the voice.
Also, I'm a cat person.
DracoPlato
yeah that was my assumption too, was that Plague took on traits from Oops, since Oops became much more low key after that as well
RebelVampire
another thing i really didnt get about plague in the beginning is his constant desire to beat Oops up XD
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
and i dont think oops ever got to eat XD
mathtans
He got to eat charades.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
RebelVampire
at least he can eat plague if he gets desperate. unless plague really has the plague. which might be the case.
DracoPlato
but plague is his one true friend, gosh
mathtans
Rebel: Guess Oops had something of a self-depreciating piece that he passed on?
DracoPlato
oh that is true tho
cause of the thoughts we hear later in his head
RebelVampire
well id assume anyway cause i mean oops is an orphan living on the streets. that is not the most self esteem building of positions to be in
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah
mathtans
Guy talks to rats, after all.
DracoPlato
i dunno, it could be
be like i'm so awesome, don't need a job, just steal what i need. No entanglements to tie me down
mathtans
Like Aladin?
DracoPlato
actually i would have liked to of spent more time with Oops before him losing his voice, I feel like the time we got wasn't very fulfilling
yus
mathtans
It was a bit hard to get his character when he had nothing he could say. I'm not sure about delaying the voice loss and magic, but maybe if he'd been able to think out loud more?
DracoPlato
yeah, for me he in general seems super flat and uninteresting. Before and after losing his voice
mathtans
Like, his character as established was kind of carefree from how he acted and cared about animals but tortured in terms of having no friends and living on stolen food.
DracoPlato
since we're never in his headspace that much
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah i had to go back and make sure he had a voice at first
mathtans
I wasn't sure which way to feel about him.
DracoPlato
same
i'm still not sure how to feel
it didn't nail me enough to be empathetic before making him mute
and then when he was mute it was hard to be attached since most of our time is spent through plague
mathtans
Though we also had the Knight early on! He was nice.
DracoPlato
yeah! I'm much more empathetic towards him
RebelVampire
i actually wish we couldve learned more about the city over oops. cause at this point i have to wonder if oops lives on the street by choice or if the evil king said "nope no orphanages" and i feel like a lot of the king's evil is said more than its shown. so i feel like the story tries to mix in a heavier conflict early on without giving us a lot to get attached by
DracoPlato
yeah, i agree with that too
since they mention saving the city but we don't really know what's wrong with the city well enough to care
mathtans
Well, there was the apple cart vendor who couldn't afford taxes. Seems like the king's taking the money, then the knights are taking everything else because they're his instruments.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah i dont know how to feel about that knight
he wants to be kind to the civilians but really hates oops
mathtans
Yeah, I'm a bit conflicted about that too AE.
He's also nice to animals.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah feeding them rotten apples XD
RebelVampire
to be fair to the knight i dont think he hates oops. he just doesnt think disrespect should go unpunished cause as far as he knows it was oops who assaulted him. and then oops kindve resisted arrest which is also a crime XD
DracoPlato
taxes are such a common city trope issue though that it's hard to feel like oh no that's a serious evil that needs magical powers to address
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
well to be fair the entire beginning of the story is a trope XD
DracoPlato
whispers the whole story is a trope
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i kept thinking of aladin
XD
DracoPlato
nah aladdin was more awesome
he had floofy pants
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
LOL
DracoPlato
and uh no shirt, just that tiny vest
mathtans
I actually didn't think of Aladin at all until the street thing was brought up here. ^^
Oops has a hat.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
he has a link hat
XDDD
RebelVampire
i thought of aladdin when they started calling him street rat
mathtans
He's the missing link?
RebelVampire
was waiting for them to be like "hes the diamond in the rough"
DracoPlato
looooool
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
though once plague happened it made a nice original twist
and oops failing the test says a lot since normally the 'hero' gets through everything perfectly
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. In Chapter 5 of the comic, it’s implied that the evil King Hectric Tepper may have once been a great king whom had the trust of the Rapio Clan. What do you think happened to turn him evil? Is this an imposter king? Did something terrible happen?
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
probably a thirst for power once he got the talisman
DracoPlato
I dunno, heroes struggle in tropes a lot too(edited)
2. Oh I dunno, I honestly didn't care enough to think about it
since he seemed like generic bad guy to me
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
so im thinking he's oops' father
DracoPlato
Ooooh
mathtans
I only got to starting Chapter 5. ^^ But I like theorizing. Maybe he went evil when Oops was born, a prophecy or something.
RebelVampire
if i wanna be really cliche about it, i assume oops is his kid and he went crazy after he thought oops was killed
mathtans
Like "magic will be your downfall" and the King's all "screw that, ban all the magics".
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
DracoPlato
maybe the king was power hungry and wanted to be the most powerful person so he forbid magic for everyone else
and oops could still be his son, just the king lost himself in his quest for power
mathtans
Maybe the Queen died and he was real sad about it.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
true we dont hear anything about oops mom
DracoPlato
oh that could be
i'm so used to stories glossing over a missing parent I tend not to think about it anymore
RebelVampire
granted this is assuming the king is for sure oops' father. it may not be
DracoPlato
granted at the heart of the story is him trying to find his family
mathtans
Maybe the Queen was killed by magic, so the King banned all the magic and the magic is what was making him good.
RebelVampire
maybe we have a batman and robin thing going on where his wife got sick and now shes suspended in a stasis until she can get better
mathtans
Maybe the Knight is Oops' father?
DracoPlato
oh i like that theory
RebelVampire
now thatd be a twist
DracoPlato
that'd explain the story's focus on him too
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
hey i said that already =p
DracoPlato
oh no
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
oh wait no
i read that wrong
DracoPlato
it must have been when i was yelling at my dogs to stop using the litter box as a sandbox
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
I do think the knight has some kind of past
DracoPlato
i think he has to have some connection to Oops for him to be treated with such importance in story
RebelVampire
maybe he's oops brother
DracoPlato
that could be
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
all the family!
mathtans
But he doesn't recognize Oops because of the pale skin now.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
oops and talon get married and the knight brother and the evil king dad XDDD
DracoPlato
we found your family for you Oops
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
though there was one other part
RebelVampire
maybe none of those ppl are his family. but oops marries talon and learns family is what you make it.
DracoPlato
a bunch of bird cats
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
when the elder talked about the spell gone wrong and oops being bonded with plague
mathtans
Bonded. James bonded.
DracoPlato
loooooool
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
what if the spell the elder put on the talisman for the king was also done wrong
and the elder has a bond too
RebelVampire
that would explain maybe why the elder seems to feel so obligated to fix everything.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol maybe the elder is oops dad and the spell turned him into a griffin
mathtans
Or just traded minds with.
DracoPlato
that'd be intriguing
altho since it's an all ages story i doubt it'll do too many complex twists
RebelVampire
shhh draco
shhh
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
mathtans
The King is really Oops who travelled back in time and went evil from not being around Plague!
DracoPlato
man i would love that
mathtans
That's a bit complex.
DracoPlato
being your own enemy
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
that would be cool
DracoPlato
there's no way it's going that route
RebelVampire
for some reason that scene where the elder talks about plague and oops being bonded made me feel like he was subtly telling plague that plague has to die at some point for oops to succeed
DracoPlato
I could see that
since plague is really just part of Oops
mathtans
Die again, basically.
DracoPlato
I think at best Plague could live as a normal rat, but it seems like he'd have to give up his Oops traits for Oops to be whole
RebelVampire
"his Oops traits" XD
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
DracoPlato
I'm hoping Oops has a real name XD
and that his parents weren't just complete jerks
RebelVampire
his name is hectric jr.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol!!
DracoPlato
oops hectic jr.
mathtans
It's Oolong Ortega Percival the Sixth. OOPS for short.
RebelVampire
my apologies. should be more formal. Prince Hectric Tepper II
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
hahahaha
mathtans
Though I don't mind it as a name.
RebelVampire
i feel like were making his name worse, not better
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
hahaha
DracoPlato
lolol
Orvil Octavis Phineas Susan
mathtans
A boy named Sue?
RebelVampire
i have mixed feelings about his name. like, i dont mind it persay. but at the same time feel like its just asking ppl to say "so oops huh so are you an accident because you were unplanned or an accident cause your parents didnt want you or were you so clumsy you somehow fell as a newborn"
mathtans
What are the names of other people in the world? Maybe it's fantasy normal.
DracoPlato
so far it is fantasy normal it seems
RebelVampire
we only really know hectric tepper and talon but talon probably named herself
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol i thought tepper was weirder than oops
DracoPlato
I've watched too much anime, nothing is that weird to me now
mathtans
What was the name of the girl?
RebelVampire
tepper rhymes with pepper which goes with salt. its how you know the king is salty
DracoPlato
Talon
so deep
mathtans
Right.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i like that rebel XD
RebelVampire
so i remember talon said she named all the gryphons. so does that mean she named malice O_O and in that case that seems like a mean name to give someone
DracoPlato
I thought that was a pretty mean name too XD
like geezus talon, what did he do to you
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Much like Oops, Talon is an orphan. However, Talon had the fortune of being raised by the gryphons. Do you think Talon’s past will come into play during the story? What do you think of Talon and what will Talon’s fate be?
mathtans
Nice segue.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
I didnt really get the feeling that Talon's past was important... it was just like yeah im an orphan then the story moved on
it didn't focus on her like it did say...the knight
DracoPlato
yeah i agree with AE
so far we haven't been lead to believe that her side of the story is that important
mathtans
Maybe Oops used to be a gryphon.
DracoPlato
yeah i was wondering that too Math
RebelVampire
so far O_O but always room for doubt
DracoPlato
cause he has wings and stuff, an important gryphon
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
She just seems to have been put there to be the love interest XD
DracoPlato
yeah, which kind of bugged me tbh
with him falling in love with her at first sight, i wish the story hadn't done that since it kind of jaded my feelings for her
mathtans
Like, it informs his character more than hers?
DracoPlato
or that she's just there to be a love interest for him rather than being her own character
which she's a girl living with a bunch of gryphons, it's not like her side of the story wouldn't be interesting
RebelVampire
as far as the love interest thing tho, it bugs me more that it hinted at it....then completely dropped it as a plot point. like the two hang out together sure, but theres no overtly romantic overtones to it. and its not like there are other humans for oops to hang out with XD
DracoPlato
yeah, that bugged me too
that it was dropped, lol
cause they did the thing and then didn't commit to it XD and then it was just a random thing to Oops' personality
RebelVampire
which talon has the potential to be really interesting. so its gonna be a shame if her past at least with the gryphons is never discussed more.
DracoPlato
yeah i agree, it'd be a waste of a potentially interesting story point
atm i don't feel like it's going to touch there
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
I read the first bit and I think it is really nice. So far love the style going on.
DracoPlato
yeah it does have a really nice style
it was really easy to read too
mathtans
It's got that flowy down the page thing to good effect.
Like, when things are falling or such.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah i agree
DracoPlato
the random back to BW in the middle was a bit annoying tho
RebelVampire
if were talking about art style idk. i mean i was okay at first but i feel like the comic tweaks it a lot. like the jump from B&W to color is jarring. not that the color isnt appreciated. just as a bulk read its really sudden.
DracoPlato
since it was hard to recognize the gryphons in BW
yeah, it was jarring
I think they planned to color it all so something must have happened
mathtans
The covers are, like, done by guest artists or something, aren't they?
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah
mathtans
That was neat.
Like, nice way to spotlight some other people.
DracoPlato
yeah that is cool
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah its a nice way to promote other people
mathtans
I liked how when Plague was introduced he was sort of seen as eeevil and then art style after that was cute mousy.
I really know very little about art though. >.<
RebelVampire
i have mixed feelings about the covers. as someone who can appreciate supporting other indie artists, i think its nice. but as a reader who writes reviews, it gets really disruptive to the flow sometimes.
DracoPlato
the covers didn't bother me
and i liked that about plague too math(edited)
RebelVampire
yeah admittedly the change from the more realistic rat to plague was entertaining and i think suits the story
DracoPlato
My biggest art gripe was the inconsistency in Oops' design, particularly in the beginning
it was kind of all over the place
and they call him a kid but he didn't really look like a kid in the beginning
i mean maybe a teen, but not a little kid
RebelVampire
to be fair i call teens kids XD
but yeah
honestly im still not sure what age im supposed to assume he is
same with talon tho to a degree
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i didn't pay that much attention to that XD
mathtans
I guess I just didn't even think about it.
Actually, I remember right after the magic, I wondered if Oops had been shrunk down to rat size.
RebelVampire
hard to say cause i mean he did transfer traits to plague
DracoPlato
i don't think he's rat size
but he may have gotten shorter?
or the art is just inconsistent, lol
he does look more like a kid in the more recent pages though
i assume talon is a kid by her appearance, since she doesn't really have boobs
mathtans
I'm really bad for doing heights in my own strip, so that's something else I don't think about.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah me too
i tend to forget height ratios
DracoPlato
I use that comparing height site to help
http://www.mrinitialman.com/OddsEnds/Sizes/sizes.html
mathtans
That assumes you give your characters a height.
DracoPlato
w-why wouldn't i
mathtans
...cuz I... don't do that...? Ahem.
DracoPlato
I mostly do it cause i set up 3d mock ups of my scenes, so it helps for the humanoid dummy i have, haha
mathtans
Oh, that's clever. ... Anyway. Gryphons are big.
RebelVampire
ya know, plague keeps referring to the gryphons as cats, but i really just cant see it besides the fluffy tails they have
DracoPlato
saaaaaame
XD
mathtans
I thought Plague had vision issues.
DracoPlato
i thought he didn't know what a bird was for awhile XD but then he said birds
I think it's a joke that just didn't work out since the gryphons look nothing like cats, lol
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol beaked cats
mathtans
Maybe "gryphon" in the mouse language translates to "cat".
DracoPlato
lolol, benefit of a doubt XD
RebelVampire
but to be fair i guess a lot of it is in their body movement to a degree. just cant get past the non cat appearance personally
DracoPlato
it's sad i thought rebel isn't going to buy the cat nickname for them
while reading it XD
RebelVampire
its true cause rebel loves cats. rebel will be critical on this point
QUESTION 4. Intermingled with Oops’ quest is the quest of the magical clans to stop King Hectric Tepper. However, between Oops being a novice magic user and betrayals on the rise (i.e. Malice), the war may not go so well. How do you think the war will play out? Will there be casualties? Will everyone get their happily ever after?
DracoPlato
since it's an all ages comic i doubt it'll get really bloody
RebelVampire
ppl can have bloodless deaths XD i mean technically they killed off plague already
DracoPlato
that's true
albeit plague was a rat
O_O
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
if anyone dies...i think plague and malice are good candidates
DracoPlato
yeah
mathtans
There will be the equivalent of "people trapped below decks". A pit or something.
Speculation.
DracoPlato
i think most likely there'll be a universal awakening amongst the people
RebelVampire
i think elder gryphon is destined for death cause hes old and i think bit off more than he can chew. hes gonna die and be like "oops its all up to you now."
DracoPlato
of good over evil
i could see elder dying, yeah
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
yeah
mathtans
You didn't capitalize Oops there, so I read it differently.
DracoPlato
he has that old wise man mark of death on him
mathtans
Er,
DracoPlato
looool
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
hahahaha draco
if yer old and wise and in a story...yer gonna die XD
DracoPlato
yus
mathtans
Maybe some townspeople will be recruited? Like that nice old guy in the library?
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i want that old guy to come back in the story
i liked him
DracoPlato
i liked him too
mathtans
"My apprentice and his pet"
RebelVampire
yeah i really liked the old guy in the library. i think he was a cool dude cause he tried to help oops for no reason other than hes a cool dude
DracoPlato
so far the nicest person in the comic
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
maybe he hides a secret
OOO
DracoPlato
secretly the main bad guy
mathtans
He's Oops' father!
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
what if he ends up being one of the elders of the other tribes
DracoPlato
oh that'd be interesting
RebelVampire
thatd be interesting although hard to imagine
but i dont remember who the other tribes were
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
well since the wood tribe had scouts to make sure of people before revealing themselves...could be the same for the others
what better scout place than in a library
RebelVampire
hed have to be a rock druid.
mathtans
The telepathy thing might come in handy there.
DracoPlato
yeah, definitely
RebelVampire
i wonder if the rock druids will be actual rocks
mathtans
Talking rocks like the talking stump?
DracoPlato
looool, like the ones in Frozen XD
RebelVampire
gonna sing about how oops is a little bit of a fixer upper
DracoPlato
tries to marry him with talon
mathtans
Or Plague.
DracoPlato
omg
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
lol
mathtans
Actually, what is religion in this world?
DracoPlato
i couldn't figure it out
the elves had meditation and clearing your mind
mathtans
Just wondering if it got more defined past what I read.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
nope
mathtans
I didn't get to the elves. ^_^
DracoPlato
so far there's been no mention of a god, so maybe druidism or a call back to nature
RebelVampire
not really. since this is an all ages comic i doubt religion will play a heavy factor
DracoPlato
yeah, i super doubt it will to
mathtans
Just got me wondering about priests, what with the marriage talk.
RebelVampire
i say this and watch as the king is like "must become god of this world."
DracoPlato
nah i wondered too when reading it
since i feel like it's teetering on the edge of religion with some of the ideas it touches on
but nothing concrete
if anything it'd be a fantasy religion i think
mathtans
I wonder if there's disguise magic.
DracoPlato
yeah there is!
cause one of the elves later on takes on the form of Oops
mathtans
Oh! So that could be relevant in the battle too.
RebelVampire
hmmm in retrospect, the elder gryphon said he wanted to teach oops soul magic later, so maybe thats when religion may become relevant
DracoPlato
yeah, that could be when i raised an eyebrow to it
and the Hound was previously a gryphon
so there's a hint of reincarnation
and then the elves being into meditation
mathtans
I thought that was transmogriphication not reincarnation.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i loved the forgiveness part with the hound
DracoPlato
could be, i was a bit confused about what was going on with the hound tbh
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
that is a long word XD
DracoPlato
reincarnation is usually a mess in most stories, lol
mathtans
(I didn't get to the elves but read the Q&A and thought I saw something in there about Hound being turned.)
DracoPlato
yeah there was!
I stumbled on that too, haha
mathtans
I think I spelled it wrong too, AE. ^^
DracoPlato
i'm not sure if i want it to explore religious themes or not
for the kind of story it is
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i like it the way it is
DracoPlato
yeah, i'd really rather it not, hahah(edited)
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
it would make a neat rpg game XD
DracoPlato
yeah it would! the simplicity works in it's favor
in that regard
RebelVampire
i think this comic would make a good snes area game cause for some reason it makes me think of like the old snes lion king and aladdin games
DracoPlato
it reminded me of those games too XD
somehow
mathtans
Maybe Plague can have a chef game like Ratatouille. ^.^
DracoPlato
omg XDD
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
hahahaha
RebelVampire
plague in cooking mama
mathtans
Actually, mayhap they'll come across other fantastical creatures.
Maybe he's called "Oops" because he was meant to be a gryphon or dragon and his parents were "He's human, Oops."
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
LOL
mathtans
I speculate too much.
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
i actually like that
DracoPlato
omg that'd be awesome XD
AngelicEmpyress of Chromacity
a failed experiment
mathtans
He was born from magic!
DracoPlato
i like that route
RebelVampire
maybe oops has no mother at all
was just magicked into existence
but hectric gave oops his good traits
thus why evil
mathtans
Ooooh! Nice twist there.
Like, Oops was created in a similar way to how Plague was created.
DracoPlato
Oooooooh
RebelVampire
Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party is now complete~! Thank you everyone so much for joining this week’s chat~! That being said, if you would like to continue discussing the comic, we encourage you to do so~! We want to give a big thank you to Cyndi Foster and Jeramy Hobz, as well, for volunteering Oops Comic Adventure for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Cyndi Foster and Jeramy Hobz’s efforts. If you have questions, concerns, or suggestions about CTP, please feel free to PM me, or e-mail me at [email protected].
With that said, next week’s Comic Tea Party will focus on Soul Hymn by DracoPlato. Please use this week to read as much of the comic as you would like. Hope to see you next Thursday (July 13th) from 5PM to 7PM PST~! Until then~! Comic: http://khyatix.com/soulhymn.shtml
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