#HSR Golden Epic Trailer

[blazingblorbos]

So the Golden Epic Trailer came out.... didn't it?

hmm I have many thoughts. many thoughts. And not all of them are Honkai (Impact 3rd) related, even...

I'll start off with something I've noticed about Star Rail itself (for a long while now). Because it k e e p s being brought back up in my mind every single time they release one of these trailers: The Star Rail team is absolutely INCREDIBLE at, what I'm going to call, "Discontinuous Storytelling".

Hoyoverse as an entire company and artistic team has an unrelentingly powerful streak when it comes to their over-arching storyline trailers.. Genshin's Teyvat Storyline Preview trailer; Zenless's Lore teaser; Genshin's Overture Teaser; Winter Night's Lazzo; the Stonehearts' Myriad Celestia Trailer (even in spite of the fact that these last 2 may have served as a distraction from colorism-related outrages during their respective releases...); ANY!! FUCKING MYRIAD CELESTIA TRAILER, FOR THAT MATTER (FABLES ABOUT THE STARS PART 1 SPECIFICALLY, I AM STILL NOT OVER THAT).... And of course the one that has had perhaps the most profound impact on me to date: The Elysian Realm Concept trailer

And I've noticed for a while now that the stories told in a lot of the Star Rail trailers have felt,, very disjointed from the game's actual story. With any of their other games, even Zenless! now included, their trailers have had direct, VISIBLE connections to the events that played out in the game's actual storyline around the time of the trailer's release. It was a real, well-thought-out, well-crafted, teaser for what was to come [very soon!] for the playerbase in-game. And it's possible that.. maybe the pay-off period is just 10x longer in Star Rail than it has been in any of their other games...

but things like the Ever-Flame mansion and Duke Inferno's family was something that was teased in a Trailer, during a PIVOTAL hype season! and yet-!! was NEVER paid off!!! DUKE INFERNO WAS INTRODUCED TO LITERALLY JUST BE KILLED OFF LMAO (don't get me wrong, he had some pretty banger lines during 2.1 but. dude dropped mayyybe 9 banger lines out of.. what 27? during a flashback and dipped). Constance was the ONLY one of the children to have even a sliver of importance in Penacony's story, and the sliver is near microscopic at best.

THAT^ was perhaps the strongest offender of this "Discontinuous Storytelling" that Star Rail likes to do. But even before that: there have been so many.. things. just! A bunch of random things!! in Star Rail. Select tidbits of information, a mere taste of a specific corner of Worldbuilding lore, that's been dropped on players through a variety of ways that have just,, not been followed through yet! They love expanding on their world through things like Myriad Celestia trailers. And it's fascinating!! But for all intents and purposes, those random lore tidbits do not really make an appearance in game... and it just leaves me wondering, well.. What was this for?

A screenshot of a conversation between me and my friend that I think helps to contextualize What Exactly I'm Talking About:

anyways. I just hope this Golden Epic narrative is not that.

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Onto the Honkai Impact 3rd brain...

I'd be lying if I said 'I wasn't concerned'. I am. For a couple reasons. One reason being.. yeah.. the much, MUCH wider audience that's about to be introduced to a very Honkai Impact 3rd [from now on, to be referred to as simply "Honkai", as I've always done]—inspired set of characters. I'm not tooooo concerned about that; it mainly exists as a "Oh boy here we go again" kind of thought sitting at the back of my mind, and I plan to promptly go about my own business and continue to avoid the circles of illiterate video game players that exist in every fandom .

But the other reason I'm concerned... is because I'm worried over just how much these new Star rail characters are going to parallel the Flame-Chasers and their story. Honkai means a lot to a lot of people, and it will always mean something different depending on who you ask. The Elysian Realm is no exception.

To me, Half the beauty of Elysia and the Realm comes in how their story ended. Emphasis on ended... The reason I love her so much is because she's gone. The reason she had such a lasting impact, is because she's not here anymore. When I played through Elysium Everlasting, I recorded my playthrough. The thing about that though... is that I have still never watched that recording back. For a long, LONG time, I didn't explicitly revisit,, any part of the later half of EE, because (I locked in so hard and) wanted what I took away from that moment to be whatever I remembered of the experience naturally.

The Flame-Chasers' WHOLE THING, was: Here is a recorded history of what we did. YOU are the sole witness to our story. Witness it, remember it, and carry it with you into the future; we are past our time.

The entire fleeting nature of the Realm is something I hold so dear to myself. Their message of us continuing where they left off is the shit that got me crying, bro. Elysia ended the Realm with her and the Flame-Chasers' own 26 hands... because they exist in the past; their only job was to inspire the future, not live in it.

Having Star Rail characters that parallel them is fine, and I'm sure it'll be great! (As long as they don't do what they tried to do with the Seven Shus. Oh yeah. I saw that one. I felt it, I'm not blind. I knew it was there, but I chose to ignore it because 1) it didn't land and 2) paying attention to any traces of it that did manage to land would have ruined what the Shus ALREADY had going for them. Which- for like half of Part 2 wasn't much -- it got better later). It's more than "fine" actually, they can do whatever the hell they want with them! "Honkai" is in the title for a damn reason. I just hope it's in good faith.

Anyways.. I'm interested to see what they do with them.

[vibinsane]

stop... herta's real voice makes me think of mcognagall ;-;

[rubywolf0201]

The Amphoreus cast as revealed in the Golden Epic Trailer [2]

Mydei

Are we getting a partially shirtless playable character in HSR? WE ARE!!!! 🎉

DEFINITELY ANOTHER MUST PULL FOR ME!!!

Cipher

Catgirl but I already own one in Nekomata back in my ZZZ account but maybe I can pull for her or maybe not.

Castorice

Kinda like her aesthetic tbh but I’m on fence on whether I want to pull her or not.

Phainon

Don’t know anything aboyt HI3 or the Honkaiverse in general but he’s hot so a must pull for me. Or not depending on my funds and luck.

[aeternior]

HSR Amphoreus Analysis/Theory — Possible Historical Parallels/References?

First post ig but I've literally been geeking out sm abt this, but keep in mind I've only done about surface-level research and digging so don't expect much, and this is mostly a rant so feel free to point things out.

Okay so for starters the name of the myriad celestia trailer is 'Golden Epic' and 'The saga of heroes' right? im gonna connect that fact later on to why it’s relevant but for now I'll just say it has something to do with Hesoid, which is also very relevant. But also for context and im pretty sure this is the most obvious one in the trailer: Basically the whole beginning is just a flat out retelling of the creation myth in greek mythology — Which historically, is tied to the Dark Ages of Greece (and is very much relevant to the points I'm trying to make, as well the events that go on in the trailer.)

So I'm gonna split the trailer into like a few separate pieces: The opening = Historical dark ages of Greece, then the Archaic Age which eventually leads on to the Golden age, and the Peloponnessian war. Basically the trailer starts us off with the chaos and basically fall of civilization through the retelling of the greek creation myth (which as said before, is historically tied to the dark ages of greece/the decline of the Mycenaean civilization), before eventually following into what is historically considered the archaic age of greece, where civilization then rises back up (and by the eye in the trailer, we could assume perhaps Ena has something to do with it), and then eventually the city starts to flourish, which is possibly a reference to the peak of that time period being a reference to Greece's Golden Age (As mentioned by the 'Golden Age' in the trailer).

 But then after the city falls back into destruction and chaos in the trailer and eventually we can assume Nanook played a role in that somewhere, as by the description of 'golden blood'. But also that event in the trailer almost perfectly parallels with the historical timeline of the Peloponnessian war (which btw was also considered highly destructive/a very dramatic end) which happens afterwards the Golden Age of Greece, basically bringing a downfall to the Athens right after an age of flourish. 

But also the events aren't only just possibly referenced from the Greeces ancient historical events long before 100 AD, but also possibly from Hesoid, specifically his piece, the 'Works and Days of Hesiod', and specifically the timeline of the "Ages" that occur in his work. That being:

Golden Age:  The first age, when humans lived like gods, free from pain, sorrow, and toil. They lived in peace and harmony, and did not have to work to feed themselves. They lived to very old age, but with a youthful appearance, and eventually died peacefully. (There is also the mention of the titans such as Kronos in this age in greek mythology, and basically humanity living among the gods)

Silver Age: The Silver Age and every age that follows fall within the rule of Cronus's successor and son, Zeus. Men in the Silver Age lived for one hundred years under the dominion of their mothers. They lived only a short time as grown adults, and spent that time in strife with one another. (also its said zeus started causing destruction due to lack of respect to gods, etc) 

Bronze Age: Self destruction through the making of weapons mostly, war

Heroic Age: as telling by the name, basically the age of heroes such as odysseus and such 

Iron Age: What we may assume the current timeline for amphoreus may possibly be at the moment, and is basically described as the worst and most miserable of all the ages

Now another interesting thing is Hesoid was basically the one to create the term 'Golden Age', and the title, 'Golden Epic' as well as the 'Saga of Heroes' (aka heroic age ref?) can possibly be a reference to that in the trailer, altho it can be a stretch. Whats also interesting and something to note is the fact that Hesoid was alive during the archaic era of ancient greece, and if we start looking at historical timelines the scholar that Anaxa is possibly based off from in the trailer (Anaxagoras) had lived during the Golden Age of ancient greece.

btw i still have not figured nor done much research on the characters introduced but if im able to find the ref on them i may be able to somewhat connect it or find another connection but thats all i've been able to speculate for now💔💔