#HELAENA AND HER KIDS WERE INNOCENT AND IT'S HORRIBLE THAT HAPPENED

[agirlking]

The Greens: Start a war because they can’t accept a woman on the throne and want to elevate themselves, constantly went after this woman’s reputation and did everything they could to make her life hell before usurping her, kill her young son while he’s on a peace mission, kill civilians to hide the king’s death. The Blacks: Respond to this. The fandom, somehow: Both sides are bad! No point arguing morality! They’re all war criminals!!!

[daeneryseastar]

Team Green is in the right💚💚💚 they are right no matter what you say.

How dare you say that Tg supports a r*p!st ???🤬

TG DOESN'T SUPPORT R*P1STS, infact, THEY support Rape survivors.

Like Alicent, who had to commit *duty and sacrifice* unlike Rhaenyra. No, she's right in everything, because she did duty and sacrifice.

TG, also supports another rape survivor, Cristin cole!💚💚💚

Did you know that Rhaenyra r*aped criston? Cristin was innocent the whole time, he did nothing wrong because silver princess seduced him.

I can't wait until TG supports other rape supporters. TG is the protecter of r*pe survivors.

So I can't until they support another r*pe victim, dyana. I can't wait to see thier support for dyana in season 2.

TG says they are r*ape victim protectors, didn't they? So wait till they support dyana.

ngl, this DID get me for a second, because this is how they genuinely sound like. they love to preach modern day morality onto characters like alicent and helaena, but suddenly it’s ’you’re not supposed to view the show/book through a modern day lens’ when it comes to rhaenyra.

‘supporters of rape victims’ except the audience not seeing aegon rape dyana on screen means that it didn’t happen, helaena’s implication of being sexually abused by her brother at the dinner scene is ‘taken out of context’ and she actually LOVES her brother, and he her. the only character that they can for sure agree on being maritally raped and abused is alicent, and how dare rhaenyra also be a victim of the men around her, just not in the same palatable way as the other women in her circle who suffer in silence, making it other women’s problems and not their actual abusers?

“she cuckolded her husband and had obvious bastards! she wanted her brother tortured in defense of her bastards! her bastards aren’t human, and by that count, neither is she! she should be grateful that she and her children were only abused for 10+ years by alicent! she should be grateful that alicent was attempting to have her and her kids disinherited, exiled, or even put to death; she was obviously manipulated by the father she hadn’t seen in well over 10 years, it was all him! and daemon!! the guy who she also didn’t see for 10+ years, and never once mentioned outside of episode nine’s ‘rhaenyra will never bend the knee, nor will daemon.’ she’s been terrified of these almost nonexistent men for years, it’s justifiable why she baited her kids against their sister! making herself and her kids enemies of the *one* person who would have the authority to have them killed when she takes the throne! if rhaenyra had been a good girl and done her duty, maybe she would deserve our sympathy! but she didn’t so she deserves to die a horrible and gruesome fate for fighting back! sunfyre ate!”

their support for dyana has already reared it’s rather ugly head, just look at any pro team black comment sections on tiktok or general posts on twitter 🤷‍♀️ very nice of them to be as supportive of dyana as they are of alicent. i mean, just look at the evidence:

this is totally normal behavior.

[polkadotsocks1993]

I'm honestly not "Team Black" or "Team Green".

Both sides have nuances and flaws and people who don't deserve what happens to them because that's what happens when families feud. If you've ever had the displeasure of having a family matriarch/patriarch die and they were the only thing holding the family together, you know how HORRIBLE some of those relatives act. They'll do the worst things just to "get ahead" and the innocent cousins get caught in the crossfire. Lucerys did NOT deserve his fate, Jaeherys didn't deserve his, Helaena didn't deserve hers.

There's so much nuance and analysis that I could make, but with the first episode I'm personally glad they didn't show a lot of gore with B&C because as a newly postpartum mom of 3 with a kid the age of the twins, I COULD NOT listen to it.

But overall I think this season is shaping up to be a lot better than the last, especially with costumes and set design and I thought the whole episode was well done.