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psychreviews2 · 1 year ago
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The Anapanasati Sutta: Mindfulness of Breathing
Originally posted on: Jan 13, 2018
Today I’m comparing different English translations of The Anapanasati sutta, the discourse on the mindfulness of breathing. There are a couple of versions I would like to share. One translation is from Gil Fronsdal, from the Insight Meditation Center in California, and Thanissaro Bhikkhu’s translation from the Majjhima Nikaya. Thanissaro has taught in many locations, including the Insight Meditation Center. The following instructions will be broken down into tetrads for ease of practice.
1st tetrad
The instructions begin with: "Always mindful, she breathes in; mindful she breathes out. Ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world."
Ardent is translated as a form of passion or wholehearted commitment. Alert means you are not sleeping, or lost in thoughts. Mindfulness, according to Thanissaro, is being able to bring your mind back to the breath when it wanders. The mind will wander, but there is no need for self-recrimination. We just keep bringing the mind back to the breath. If we keep thinking about how to meditate, we are just stuck in thinking. The best way is to put in a little effort, and just start.
As we begin the 1st tetrad we have a few word options for following the breath. Gil uses knowing. We know that the breath is long or short. Thanissaro uses discerning a long or short breath. The word discern can also be translated as recognize. If your mind is wandering you cannot recognize the details of the breath. If you can recognize a long or short breath, or any of the following details, then you are concentrated enough.
The instructions move from the breath to the body. Thanissaro’s translation uses the term sensitive. "I will breathe sensitive to the entire body." Gil uses experiencing the whole body. At first we are narrow with the breath in the belly or the nose, depending on whichever you prefer. Either way we must expand our attention span to include the breath and the sensations of the body. When we do this we can notice tension in different areas of the body. These are called in Buddhism, bodily formations or bodily fabrications.
A fabrication is like a building. The tension builds. We relax the bodily formations, or calm the bodily fabrications. Essentially, relax your body. Whatever tensions we have in our mind we can see are manifesting with tightness in our body. That’s what this is about. See if these tensions are necessary, and if not, train the brain to tighten less.
Summary:
Try to recognize long breaths, while being interested, aware, and always coming back to the breath.
Recognize short breaths in the same way.
Expand your attention to include the body.
Relax tightness in the body.
2nd tetrad
When the body is relaxed, we are in the 2nd tetrad. The instructions start with being sensitive to rapture or, depending on the translation, you experience enjoyment. We enjoy the in and out breath with this reduced bodily tightness. Then we are sensitive to pleasure or we experience the pleasure.
This is a calming feeling which is a more peaceful form of pleasure we started with. With this calm relaxation, it is much easier to look at what the mind is doing. We become sensitive to mental fabrication, or experience our mental formations. A form of mental tightness.
At this point we are moving into a form of thought stopping, but the difference here is that we relax the mental formations, or calm the mental fabrications. Another way to put it, we relax our mental tightness, and the tightness of those thoughts that interrupt the meditation.
Summary:
Pay attention to the enjoyment or rapture.
As time passes pay attention to the more refined pleasure that appears.
Experience or be sensitive to our tight thinking.
Relax the strained thinking that interrupts the meditation.
3rd tetrad
Here is where it can get vague in the translations. Gil want us to breathe in and out experiencing the mind, satisfying the mind, composing the mind, and liberating the mind. Thanissaro wants us to be sensitive to the mind, satisfy the mind, steady the mind, and release the mind.
In this tetrad, we are experiencing the quality of our mind. In this experiencing, Gil describes paying attention to whether the mind is being preoccupied, or not preoccupied. Preoccupations are what deeply disturb our concentration. They are our deepest concerns about our place in life.
When we are free of preoccupation and we become satisfied with the results of the prior meditative work, the mind becomes more composed or concentrated on the breath. There is less effort to keep the mind from wandering. Liberation is now possible with this clear mind so we can move onto the 4th tetrad.
With Thanissaro, the 3rd tetrad is about measuring the state of our mind. If we are depressed, we then gladden the mind by focusing on what is enjoyable about the breath. Another choice is thinking about inspirational thoughts and uplifting memories to return to a better state of mind. If the mind is overly excited, we are to breathe in a way that steadies the mind.
A useful guide that Thanissaro recommends is surveying how much effort and pain there is in trying to maintain concentration. A lot of insight in meditation is learning to think, and allow mental movements to happen without so much stress. This is a form of mental stream-lining.
In Buddhism, much of our stress is habitual. With a strong meditation practice the stress can become more of a choice, as the brain starts rewiring.
Summary:
As your strained thinking starts subsiding, notice the quality of the mind.
Gladden the mind if the state of mind is down.
Steady the mind if it is too excited.
Release the deep preoccupations of the mind by looking at the drawbacks of the stress. Notice how small our problems are compared to the hugeness of the universe and time. Be creative and use what contemplation works with trial and error. Just like in the sutta, we must put aside greed and distress in reference to the world. The outside world that the preoccupations are aimed at.
4th tetrad
Gil’s instructions:
First contemplate impermanence of your experience.
Then contemplate the fading away of clinging.
Then contemplate the cessation of clinging and then relinquishment of it all.
Thanissaro looks at this tetrad with a lot of detail. Inconstancy is a tool to see all experiences, including powerful impulses as ultimately not lasting. We must wait until the impulses evaporate on their own. One can notice how the impulses get stronger as you concentrate on them. As we get more skilled at this, we can look at the dispassion we have for what is impermanent. As the mind finds what’s impermanent dissatisfying, it naturally lets go of clinging stress.
Thanissaro emphasizes moving up the Jhanas, as one uses less stress to stay in concentration. There is a link below on how to develop Jhanas, or concentration states. When we can’t stay, or we can’t move in these concentration states without stress, the escape appears. We can then turn the insight at the concentration itself. The concentration has taken a lot of effort thus far. Any movement of the attention span has some stress. The mind naturally lets both the staying and the moving drop away. This is the real relinquishment or nirvana. One must go through this non-experience. Nirvana cannot be perceived or willed into manifestation.
Summary:
Look at the impermanence of our senses and thoughts.
Notice how trying to control experiences with stressful intentions, is a waste of energy.
As dissatisfaction increases, the mind has less obsession and clinging.
Focus on the concentration itself, and notice the work that is necessary to maintain it. Keep cultivating until the mind cannot find a better place. When stuck between staying or moving the mind naturally, relinquishes both staying and moving.
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acaringcounselor · 3 years ago
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Listening to a guided meditation on the four foundations of mindfulness by Gil Fronsdal and reflection ting on the encouragement to do everything beautifully, walking, speaking, eating, every movement becomes an act of reverence for this life within and without. No separation, no categorization of good/bad just life in this moment and a deep awareness of how we are relating to it. This movement towards wholesome mindful living slowly frees our minds and hearts. May we walk this path together. 🙏❤️ meditation and talk found at this link https://youtu.be/LyfRtP_5llA #mindfulness #gilfronsdal #wiseaction #Compassion #Awareness #MindfulLiving #presentmomentonlymoment #Mindfulbreathing #MindfulWalking #StillnessSilenceSolitude #wbmindfulness (at West Broward Insight Meditation Community) https://www.instagram.com/p/CZZo-hXusns/?utm_medium=tumblr
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dylan20 · 6 years ago
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Notes from the end of Gil Fronsdal's class on concentration . . . #meditation #samadhi #bell #metaphor #notes #insight #gilfronsdal https://www.instagram.com/p/BtphXn9HPkr/?utm_source=ig_tumblr_share&igshid=14jmsv0b9s6le
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somasnakeoil-blog-blog · 6 years ago
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Religion is used to control and manipulate. Buddhists too. Our practice teaches us to understand the nuances of our body, to slow down and be easeful. To notice what’s happening and respond rather than react. It also teaches us to measure our words and be intentional with our speech. Applied with ethical intentions these practices lead to awareness, joy and kindness. Then there are institutions. We know that corporations are living breathing entities in the eyes of the law. Systems take on a life of their own. The same process happens in large nonprofits. The nonprofit becomes a being with ideals. The being needs to eat. I’ll be plain. I’ve witnessed institutional religious oppression in the Christian world. @spirit_rock is not engaging in reformative justice or community healing. They barely mention the women in the letter and this action comes months after allegations. My guess, they are excommunicating an undesirable to save financial donations and public humiliation. @jack_kornfield is a major disappointment as a teacher of the Dhamma. To publicly turn one’s back on a student in such an aggressive fashion is not only abandonment and lack of compassion as a Buddhist, it is shocking as a human friend. When our closest people fall down, we pick them up. The vague descriptions released by the Spirit Rock EAR Council is not only lacking in transparency, it is full of manipulative, inflammatory broad statements. Let’s get specific about some of accusations of “harm” not cited in the letter flung at @noahlevine108 They include smoking, gambling and being into BDSM. It’s reported that #GilFronsdal said to Noah: If you’re into BDSM you can’t be a Dharma teacher. Let’s allow that to sink in. Not only have they demonized one man, they’ve marginalized an entire community. If you’re into BDSM. You can’t be a Dharma teacher. Forgive me if I distrust an institution that chooses to marginalize teachers based on how they choose to love and be intimate. That feels a lot like Christian puritanical moralistic oppression rooted in capitalist greed. I am a Feminist BDSM Buddhist practitioner. I am proud to sit with a teacher who doesn’t shame me for my life/love choice. *IN BIO https://www.instagram.com/p/BuRmftzAVn_/?utm_source=ig_tumblr_share&igshid=1dm38p9ib46sd
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tesw · 8 years ago
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#forgiveness #forgive #oneminddharma #gilfronsdal
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dhammagirl · 9 years ago
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Living Two Traditions
From Tricycle Winter 2002 Interview:
Gil Fronsdal has been a student of Buddhist practice for more than twenty-five years. He trained in the Soto Zen tradition, receiving dharma transmission in 1995, as well as in the Vipassana-or Insight Meditation-lineages of Theravada Buddhism. Since 1990, Fronsdal has served as resident teacher at the Insight Meditation Center of the Mid-Peninsula in Redwood City, California. Only the second urban Insight Meditation center in America, it is funded entirely by dana contributions. Tricycle Editor-in-Chief James Shaheen interviewed Gil Fronsdal at his center in August 2002.
The last thirty years has seen an exponential growth of the Western Vipassana community. As every indication is that this will continue, what developments can we expect over the next ten years? It is unusual for someone to be a teacher of both Zen and Vipassana. Since you started out in the Zen tradition, can you describe how you first came to the practice? My interest in Buddhism began in college while I was studying environmental science. I was thinking about how to respond to environmental degradation, and how to understand our contribution to this problem. That led me through a series of steps to Eastern thought-Chinese thought, Taoism, and a whole different paradigm for our relationship to nature. 1 began reading Alan Watts’s work and other books on Buddhism, and I was inspired because they seemed to offer new answers. Then a year or so later I was introduced to Suzuki Roshi’s Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind, and I was really taken by it. It was as if it articulated a view of life that I myself had held without realizing it. I was also interested in its emphasis on meditation, although by then I had dropped out of college and was living in a spiritual community where there was almost no sitting.
Which community? The Farm in Tennessee. The Farm was a commune of some eight hundred people founded by Stephen Gaskin and others who came out of the spiritually inclined, acid-taking circles of 1960s San Francisco Hippiedom. I had been interested in living and farming on a rural commune. In 1975, on a cross-country trip, I stopped by the Farm for what was to be a couple of days and ended up staying. I had no interest in spiritual practice whatsoever, so I was surprised to find how delighted 1 was to be there. The people at the Farm considered honesty one of their primary spiritual practices. They looked at it as a substitute for LSD because they thought it had equal transformative power. They had developed very powerful skills of talking with one another, clarifying what was really happening between people. It was there that I discovered Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind, which seemed to be their bible. But they didn’t meditate. So, the first chance I had, I went to San Francisco Zen Center, founded by Suzuki Roshi. There I discovered zazen, or Zen-style sitting meditation. I loved zazen practice, and I threw myself into it. Slowly I became interested in bringing the mind of zazen into my daily life. I ordained as a priest, going deeper and deeper into the world of Buddhist practice.
How did you begin practicing Vipassana? After seven years of Zen practice in the West, I continued my training in a Zen monastery in Japan. While there, I had to leave the country to renew my visa. I traveled to Thailand, and while I waited for the new visa, I went to a meditation monastery outside Bangkok. Curious about how meditation was done in the Theravada tradition, I followed the abbot’s instructions-which happened to be for an intensive period of Vipassana practice. Since it took ten weeks to clarify my visa situation, my first silent Vipassana retreat was ten weeks long. With the strong concentration of that retreat, I touched what I can only describe as some core element of my mind, which I felt compelled to pursue further. A year later, I returned to Thailand and Burma for about a year and a half of intensive Vipassana training.
How was it to practice Vipassana after years of Zen training? The core of Vipassana is mindfulness, or the practice of being clearly present to what is happening in the present. In a sense it is a tool that can be practiced within a variety of practice approaches. The context for the Vipassana teaching I encountered in Asia was one of being goal-oriented. U Pandita, my Burmese teacher, was adamant about striving for nirvana, for deep insights and attainments. If I had been a new meditator, I wouldn’t have survived in that kind of environment. I would’ve gotten tied up in ambition and self-judgment. But in my Zen practice I had been practicing a radical acceptance of the present moment for many years. I was pretty resilient and not easily discouraged. While I tried to follow the Vipassana instructions as best I could, at the same time I saw how helpful they were for me to be more thorough in the Zen practice of shikautaza-just sitting.
Did working within the two different traditions bring up any conflicts for you? I struggled a fair amount, trying to reconcile goal-less Zen practice-in which practice and realization are thought to occur together-with the goal-oriented Theravada tradition, in which you work toward later realization. Eventually I came to understand that these approaches not only complemented each other but could be seen as two sides of the same coin. Soto Zen taught me to emphasize the purity of the moment-to-moment process of sitting in meditation; Vipassana taught me how that process opens to greater freedom even when we don’t fixate on freedom as a goal. My Vipassana practice taught me that the radical acceptance of myself and of things-as-they-are that I learned in Zen included an innate, natural impulse toward liberation. I didn’t have to be goal-oriented as much as I needed to let go of any obstacles to this innate impulse. One of the hindrances I had faced in Zen practice was complacency-a comfort-able, lightweight acceptance-in which I lacked the motivation to see the ways in which I was still subtly attached or resistant to reality. Vipassana, especially with its emphasis on seeing clearly what is happening in the present, helped break me out of my complacent state.
Do you bring Zen elements into your Vipassana teachings? From the Zen tradition I emphasize that each moment of sincere mindfulness practice is complete and satisfying in and of itself. I encourage practitioners to investigate what gets in the way of realizing this. I teach that the goal should be reflected in the means, in the practice. If the goal is to be at peace, some form of peacefulness should be a part of the practice. To become compassionate, practice compassion. To be generous, practice generosity. To be free, don’t let the practice or attainments be objects of grasping.
Were there elements of the Vipassana tradition that you felt in conflict with? I grappled some with the Theravadan teaching of the three characteristics: impermanence, suffering, and no-self. When I was in Thailand and Burma, I was struck by the way this teaching served as the dogmatic foundation of nearly every dharma talk; I was a little put off by how, over and over again, we heard about the three characteristics. It seemed like a dogma or a view that people adopted not because they had insight into the three characteristics but because it was what they were told. I was mistrustful of adopting a view about life as opposed to cultivating insight.
Do you mean applying a view without fully under-standing it? I mean that insight is not a view. Because of my Zen background, I have a certain distrust of views; Zen practice is in part one of pulling the rug out from under any view we apply to our experience.
So what was your problem with the teachings on the three characteristics? I couldn’t quite wrap my mind around them. Sure, in some ways everything’s impermanent. The mountains are impermanent-that I could accept. But that the mountains were suffering seemed a little odd co me. And that the mountains were “not-self’ also had little meaning for me. The teaching that everything was impermanent made sense logically but remained, somehow, only a view without much personal meaning. Eventually, I decided that I could only understand the three characteristics as describing the nature of’ how I experienced the world. There are lots of problems in claiming to know what reality actually is, what it is like. I don’t see Buddhism as a form of physics. Rather, I saw mindfulness as revealing how I perceive the world.
Then what is the value of the three characteristics? As Vipassana practice deepens, the three characteristics become obvious. They are not a view, or an understanding that we apply; they become clear and predominant experiences. It’s very direct and immediate. And the greatest value of these insights is that they are powerful aids in helping the mind loosen its clinging. When we can find nothing permanent to grasp onto, the mind will eventually stop grasping.
Can you say more about view versus insight? During my college education, I had come to recognize my own tendency to cling to views without testing them against experience or evidence to the contrary. As an undergraduate at UC Davis, I majored in agronomy, the art and science of field crop management. As an ardent environmentalist, I had a lot of views about organic farming and conventional farming. But as 1 studied the science of soils, crops, and fertilizers, I realized that some of my views were simplistic generalizations. Some of them just weren’t true, and yet I’d been holding on to them tenaciously. I was really humbled by this. So when I came to Buddhism, especially when I started an academic study of Buddhism in graduate school at Stanford, I was keenly interested in not falling into the same trap. I was aware that people involved in religion tend to generalize quite readily. I wanted to be on the lookout against doing the same thing again.
How did you manage that? My interest in the academic study of Buddhism intellectually liberating. It helped me understand much more clearly what views I held, where I made generalizations, what assumptions underlay them. On what authority did I rake something to be true? Some of my questioning came from my Zen training, where in a sense the idea was to abide with no views at all. When I work with students, I try to get at what view they are holding. Is it appropriate? Can I pull the rug out from under them in an appropriate way?
But sometimes you have a less demanding approach. You’ve summarized the Four Noble Truths by writing, “There is happiness and there are causes for happiness.” Why that reformulation? Is it a bit too soft? That formulation is not meant as a definitive explanation of the Four Noble Truths, but I find that people can get too serious about Buddhist practice. A little dour sometimes. They’re looking at their attachments, their grasping, and how to let go, and their practice becomes heavy. If you can remember that happiness and joy are a part of the goal, you’re less likely to fall into that trap. And the practice becomes more approachable, too.
Nowadays, everyone from corporate executives to sports figures finds mindfulness practice-or the practice of Insight Meditation-useful and, to use your word, approachable. Often the word Buddhism is eliminated from the teaching of the practice altogether. Do you see any danger in that? For example, what is to stop mindfulness practice from simply becoming a tool for a CEO who is, say, intent upon running a more profitable organization rather than a more ethical or compassionate one? I’m not sure how to answer that, but let me take it from this angle: I think that Vipassana practice and mindfulness practice are very powerful and helpful. I’m happy to see them help people however they can. Lots of people are not interested in Buddhism or in following the Eightfold Path. I don’t feel a need to convert them. \What I’m trying to do here at our center is to make Buddhist practices available to the widest range of people possible, and to address a broad range of interests and needs. My attitude comes from the bodhisattva spirit I learned as a Zen practitioner: a vow to alleviate suffering. I’m not going to turn away from anybody who comes in wanting the kind of help that we can offer: instruction in meditation and the dharma, a place to sit, and a community to practice with. Some people are devoting their entire lives to Buddhist practice. They are doing lots of long retreats, even going off to Asia to become nuns and monks. That’s one end of the spectrum, and it’s important for me that our center supports them. At the other end of the spectrum are people who walk in off the street. They have stressful lives, they have a hard time coping, and they stumble upon our center. I’m happy that we can offer skills that help them. They don’t have to become Buddhists. If what they want is to cope better, I’ll try to help. I try to meet them where they are. People can complain about “Buddhism lite,” but I trust the practice. I have a lot of faith in people’s hearts. I believe that inherent in each person is a momentum toward liberation and greater compassion. And if you help people in appropriate ways, that’s what wants to come out. I don’t have to proselytize or encourage people to move in any particular direction. It’s best just to meet people where they are. If practice is too self-centered, sooner or later they will either stop practicing or understand the limitations of being self-centered. After a certain point, it is not possible to continue practicing just for yourself. The motivation to keep going comes in part from caring for others, also.
You mentioned that you’re returning to some of the more traditional aspects of practice, sutta practice, for instance. Are there other more traditional practices you’re bringing to teaching Vipassana at your center? Yes. I am currently teaching a class on the Pali suttas. Every couple of years I teach a class and conduct a ceremony for people interested in formally taking refuge in the Buddha, the Dharma, and the Sangha. I’d like to include more chanting and traditional Buddhist festivals, but we haven’t done much of either so far, with the exception of our annual Vesak festival, celebrating the birth of the Buddha. I have also started to invite Theravadan monastics to be more part of our community as visiting teachers.
What would a traditional practice like chanting bring to your sangha? Chanting both invokes and expresses people’s faith in practice, and the inspiration that comes with faith. Some people chant to aid in concentration. But mostly I see it providing a heartfelt connection to the lineage, the Buddha, the Dharma, and the Sangha. For some people that’s very valuable. And, aside from faith and concentration, chanting-if you understand what you’re chanting-has a powerful effect on the psyche. The chanting voice can awaken the meditative mind, allowing the words and their meaning to sink in quite deep.
I guess this raises the question of whether some-thing is missing from the practice of Vipassana with-out some of the more traditional Buddhist rituals. Can you say something about that? Ritual is helpful in better integrating our lives, as well as in building a community that supports practice. It’s very hard to practice Buddhism, especially all the way to enlightenment. A community can help us integrate our Buddhist practice with all aspects of our lives.
Does this make you wonder about beginning with Vipassana meditation rather than with more fundamental practices and rituals first? There is nothing inherently wrong with beginning with Vipassana practice. However, it can be very difficult to sustain over a long period of time without support. Traditionally, Vipassana is practiced with the firm sup-port of ethics, community, rituals, and inner practices like loving-kindness and concentration. Some of these other Theravadan practices like festivals and rituals function to bring a community together to form a sup-port for practice, and to remind us that practice is not just something we do for ourselves. I would say that a minor shortcoming of the American Vipassana movement is that it hasn’t cultivated sangha as strongly as it could, leading to a tendency for some practitioners to be overly self-focused in the practice. Community practices and traditions can help remedy that shortcoming.
You talk about community a lot, and your center is situated right on the border between middle-class and working-class residential neighborhoods. What is your involvement with the neighborhood? We’re a new community meditation center, and we’re crying to be responsive to our community. Our doors are open to the community at large. I like to think of the seven exterior doors to this building as symbolizing that we welcome people co come and go, without any barriers. People can wander in and participate in what-ever way works best for them. That we work on a dana, or donation, basis only-people give what they can and when they like-removes another barrier. People have told me how comfortable they felt when they first came here-that it was the only public group they knew of where they could come without having anything asked of them, and practice at the level that suited them.
As a community center, do you offer children’s programs? Yes, and it’s been interesting and fun. At some children’s programs, I’ve taught the precepts, but I call them the Five Protections. I say, “‘This is what protects you.” And I might talk also about how these five precepts protect our families and our community. I once explained to the children that when you’re first born, you can do nothing for yourself; your parents do every-thing for you. And then slowly, as you get older, you to do more and more for yourself, and your parents are there less and less to protect you, and when you’re an adult, you eventually leave to live your own life. But you can always carry these Five Protections with you.
The way you’re describing the center and its development, it sounds like you’re describing a work in progress. Is that how you see it? The whole Vipassana movement is a work in progress. It’s an experiment. That’s why I find it very useful to study the traditional Asian Buddhist teachings, practices, and worldviews-not necessarily to adopt them wholesale here in the West, but to highlight what we’re doing that is not traditionally Buddhist. That way we can be more responsible about what we adopt and how we innovate. I don’t have any problem with innovation, but I think it’s important to be conscious of the assumptions underlying what we are doing when we innovate, and why.
Can you give me an example of an innovation, and whether you think it’s a helpful one? One example is the way the American Vipassana movement emphasizes interconnectedness when teaching anatta, or “not-self.” This is emphasized so much that a person might get the idea that realizing interconnectedness is the ultimate goal of Buddhism. It’s not; this is a very American emphasis. I think interconnectedness is inspiring to us as an antidote to American individualism and the pain of alienation it can cause. For many traditional Asian Buddhists, especially in Indian and Southeast Asia, these teachings on interconnectedness would be unfamiliar. They may not even be useful because in Asia lack of connectedness is generally not the problem that it is in the West. In the Pali discourses of the Buddha, interconnectedness is not seen as of ultimate value; liberation is not contingent on the interconnected world. So here’s where understanding the Asian tradition and worldview helps expose a difference in the teachings in the West. Once we see that difference, we can ask ourselves why we are teaching differently. What’s the meaning of emphasizing interconnectedness? Why is it so important? We can also ask how the American emphasis aligns with core Buddhist teachings. People will give a variety of answers. Some say the emphasis on interconnectedness is a deviation from the dharma; others, an improvement on the dharma. Another view is that it is simply an accurate translation of the dharma appropriate for our culture. Or it may highlight aspects of the teachings that are in the back-ground in Asia. I am not particularly interested in settling on one of these views; they may all have some truth to them. I am interested in understanding the Asian tradition so we won’t fool ourselves into thinking that what we’re teaching is how Buddhism has always been taught.
If you posit this notion of an interconnected self, shouldn’t that interconnected self come under the same Buddhist scrutiny that the individual self has? I would hope so. To conclude that the self is one with the universe or that there is a “nonseparate self’ is still a view of self. It is all too easy for people to take a pro-found experience as the goal of the path or to relate the experience to some concept of self. The feeling of inter-connectedness with all life is very powerful. But if a person thinks that’s it-I’ve reached the final goal-they’re shortchanging themselves, because liberation is beyond conditioned experience. Meditative or mystical experiences of interconnectedness may be one of the most wonderful conditioned experiences, a pinnacle of conditioned life, but it’s still conditioned. A challenging aspect of traditional Buddhist teachings is that any view that we hold about the nature of self, whether an independent or an interdependent self, falls short of full liberation; it’s just an idea. So I emphasize the power of mindfulness practice, nondiscursive penetration rather than reflective consideration. Nondiscursive mindfulness practice has a lot to do with mindfulness of the body, with direct experience.
Are you optimistic about the future of Buddhism in America? Oh, yes. I’m very optimistic when I think of the growing community of dedicated practitioners. I am also enthusiastic about the ways in which many practitioners from different traditions are learning from each other. At the same time, as we learn from each other-which is such a big part of the American tradition-I hope we’ll keep the traditions distinct from one another. I’m a Zen teacher and a Vipassana teacher, and I think it very important not to blur the two traditions and make them the same. Each is unique. They come out of different worldviews. They have different understandings and approaches to the dharma. I don’t want American Buddhism to be just a melting pot. I like to see the traditions existing together harmoniously, serving as mirrors to each other, helping practitioners plumb the depths of their own traditions.
But you’re a perfect example of a Westerner who has been exposed to more than one tradition. Won’t the traditions naturally influence and shape each other? I’m happy with the mixed influence, but I wouldn’t want the traditions themselves to merge into an indistinct form. One of the blessings and curses of being a teacher in two traditions is that I want to be careful about maintaining the difference. Someone who is in only one tradition can borrow and adapt from the other traditions without worry. But I need to be a little more concerned because I don’t want simply to turn Vipassana into a different form of Zen or Zen into a different form of Vipassana. There are differences, and I respect those differences, and I’m grateful to have been enriched by both.
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firstclasslady · 13 years ago
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Few cross the river. Most are stranded on this side. On the riverbank they run up and down. But the wise person, following the way, Crosses over, beyond the reach of death. Free from desire, Free from possessions, Free from attachment and appetite, Following the seven lights of awakening, And rejoicing greatly in his freedom, In this world the wise person Becomes themself a light, Pure, shining, free.
'adapted from the Dhammapada, translated by Thomas Byron'
(Found inside Shambhala Pocket Classics' Teachings of the Buddha, which is edited by Jack Kornfield and Gil Fronsdal.)
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acaringcounselor · 5 years ago
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#gilfronsdal #buddhadharmasangha #emptiness #awakening #noblesilence https://www.instagram.com/p/B1S2l10nOLr/?igshid=39yxxqrq5b2b
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Mini Mindfulness Break for September 14, 2020 . Seeing Possibility in Suffering . Being intolerant of suffering, in the Buddhist sense, does not mean that we reject it or fight against it. It means that we stop and look at it, not morbidly, but with faith in the possibility of living a joyful and peaceful life. . Gil Fronsdal, "Living Two Traditions" . #mindfulness #mindfulnessbreaks #minimindfulnessbreak #minimindfulnessbreaks #meditation #mindfulmeditation #thepresent #peace #quotes #mindfulnessmatters #dailymeditation #thichnhathanh #thay #plumvillage #fathereli #vietnam #tuhieu #zen #awakening #Buddhist #joyful #suffering #SeeingPossibilityinSuffering #GilFronsdal #LivingTwoTraditions . Visit the link in the bio or mountainsangha.org/products-on-sale for a Special Offer on Guided Meditations and Books! . https://www.instagram.com/p/CFH0qR1JLaj/?igshid=18z964agb9ngt
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Mini Mindfulness Break for May 21, 2020 . The Joy of Giving . Through generosity, we cultivate a generous spirit. Generosity of spirit will usually lead to generosity of action, but being a generous person is more important than any particular act of giving. After all, it is possible to give without its being a generous act. . Gil Fronsdal, "The Joy of Giving" . #mindfulness #mindfulnessbreaks #minimindfulnessbreak #minimindfulnessbreaks #meditation #mindfulmeditation #thepresent #peace #quotes #mindfulnessmatters #dailymeditation #thichnhathanh #thay #plumvillage #fathereli #vietnam #tuhieu #zen #awakening #generosity #giving #TheJoyofGiving #GilFronsdal #TheJoyofGiving . Visit the link in the bio for more information. . (at Fairfax, California) https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdB3mgpTqK/?igshid=1kl0cf01bihcv
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