#GGDD favorite moments...

[yellowrose222]

Favorite "Awww yizhan moments"

[rainbowsky]

GQ & ADLAD CPN

@accio-victuuri has a post about some of the CPN from the GQ feature on GG. There are a couple more CPNs that I wanted to talk about because - with the exception of a couple of tidbits - I haven't seen turtles talking about some things that really stood out to me.

Both of the tidbits being discussed by BXG are based on fake rumors from the past.

Godly Back

Turtles feel that the backless jacket might be what was referred to in the recent LRLG rumor (Apparently wangwang senbei can be a homophone sounding like 'godly back').

In this context, "You saw what I wore, can you please choose something normal" becomes hilarious. 😅

If he really was talking about GG's back, well... DD, the rest of the internet agrees with you given the hotsearch that was trending on both the main and entertainment hotsearches. 😅

Xiao Zhan's back ditch is so deep

GGDD and ADLAD

This one I wanted to dig more deeply into because it's connected to a few different CPN from a long time ago, and a lot of turtles might not be aware of all these connections.

In the GQ interview GG mentioned he was really nervous for the first performance of ADLAD.

At the time a LRLG rumor came out with some exchanges between GG and DD in the days leading up to that first show. GG talks about being nervous, DD and his staff video call him to wish him Jiayou, and at one point - presumably the last time they talk before that first show - DD video calls with GG and closes off by giving him a high 5.

The day after the first show, GG posted on Weibo.

At the time there was a lot of speculation about what that second photo was. One of the theories was that GG had screen capped DD's hand high-5-ing his phone. Some fans even tried doing that themselves (screencapping their hands up against their phone cameras to see what would happen) with somewhat similar results - photos that were an ombre of pale pink to red.

Some additional CPN

When I saw GG talking in GQ about the first ADLAD show and how nervous he was and I saw turtles looking back over the LRLG rumors from that time, I decided to look over those rumors myself. I found a couple things there that really hit me in the gut, but which I haven't seen other turtles discussing.

Magician DD

One thing that stood out to me from the ADLAD LRLG rumor was when DD told GG he could do magic, and told his staff that only GG believed him.

Back in 2021 a series of pages called the 300G were released, which claimed to be transcripts of some of the best unseen moments from The Untamed BTS (300GB of BTS footage was reportedly sold to BXG fansites). They were translated by an all-star team of some of the best BXG translators and overall fandom MVP on Twitter back in the day (god I miss those days of Twitter 😢).

Disclaimer: We must remember that these are unconfirmed transcripts. As far as I know, none of the footage that could substantiate these transcripts has ever been released, so it could just be someone's fanfic.

Anyway, my absolute favorite moment in those transcripts was an exchange between GG and DD, when GG had been struggling with nailing a scene. My synopsis from a post I made about GG and DD's personalities a while back:

GG is having a hard time getting a take right for a scene, and the director tells him to take a break. DD scoots over to where GG is resting and holds out his two fists facing downward in front of GG and asks him to pick one for a surprise. GG agonizes a bit over which one to choose, but finally picks a hand. DD gives GG a mysterious smile and asks GG to hold out his hand. GG does, and DD opens his fingers over GG’s palm. There’s nothing there. DD says, “I’ve just given you some luck, so that on your next take, you will succeed.” GG asks what is in the other hand and DD turns it over and opens it and says, “See, there’s nothing there! Zhan-ge is so good, you guessed right on the first try!” GG rolls his eyes at DD and says, “WYB, in your heart, do you think I’m more than 10 years old?” On the next take, GG nails the scene.

So it's just possible that DD and GG have a long history of this type of exchange, of DD giving GG his 'magical' support. GG is just superstitious enough that it might genuinely help him, and anyway, who could fail to be soothed by such sweet magic? 🥹

GG and Sleep

Another thing that stood out to me is when GG talked about being unable to sleep. Honestly this part of the interview really got me because I have always struggled with extreme insomnia and I could totally feel his pain. I've tried so many of the things that he's tried, and have had similarly mixed/poor results.

Anyway, aside from the aromatherapy candle CPN that's been heavily discussed in the fandom, what stood out to me CPN-wise was the fact that LRLG rumors have (I think this has happened at least a few times, but I can't recall specifics), featured moments where it seemed like GG and DD left their phone/video calls active to keep each other company when the other one was sleeping.

In the ADLAD LRLG rumor there's a moment when it seems like GG might be having difficulty sleeping and DD keeps him company.

Find someone who will keep you company over the phone while you try to take a nap. 🥹

Firecrackers

Just another quick thing from that same rumor, DD talks about wanting to set off some firecrackers for GG, which... ugh, so sweet. My god.

His staff encourages him to do it, and he says he will be 'taken away' if he does (maybe get into trouble, likely exaggerated a bit), and his staff says he'll cover for DD.

In Chinese culture (and in fact, in many cultures), firecrackers are considered very lucky because they are believed to drive away evil spirits and bad luck (which is why they're such a feature of Spring Festival celebrations).

GG and DD always look out for each other, and this CPN around ADLAD and around GG's sleep struggles really hit me hard. I love them both so damn much!

[starsxinxthexbluexsky]

My 5 Favorite Moments of GGDD

Like last time, the GGDD moments were difficult to choose, because I like them all. I had to look at some things again. But, finally, I posted it for mistake...😃😃😃😃. The fate wanted me to post this.

This is Fake. My imagination. CPN

5. On BAZAAR interview, first of all I love the fact that they say that they knew each other before on TTXS, but both emphasize that there was no eye contact, nor that they spoke, but that's not what I like, it's just an addition for put us, in context. What I like, is when GG draws DD (I think most of them like it), DD says his eyes aren't that big, but GG says he had heard comments from some friends saying that DD's eyes were tight, so GG drew DD's eyes bigger. Meanwhile, he says that ... DD looks at him with a silly face and smiles, even he places his hand on his chin, looking very focused on what his GG says (it is my impression, it can vary between viewers), GG makes a sign, but DD plays dumb and clears his throat, looking away (more like he's trying not to see his GG).

4. In TTXS, when they were together in the same place for the first time, in 2017. A cute GG, with a pink jacket and accompanied by X-NINE and a DD very cute and surprisingly smiling, imitating everything that his not-yet-GG did, is that DD couldn't take his eyes off from GG, DD moved his hands nervously when he was next to GG, and DD looked at him when GG looked away, but stopped when it was already very obvious (I keep saying it's my perspective, others may think other things). I don't think GG didn't realize it, because I think, when someone looks at another person a lot, that person has to realize it, for me, DD…well, the fool was very obvious. He even showed off his mating dancing (is a joke) just to impress his GG and use his pistol finger to aim at him at the end of the dance (yeah, for me he aimed at GG). DD and his love at first sight…GG couldn't be saved.

3. At Happy Camp. First is the fact that they sat next to each other, moving away if the person on the opposite side got too close, so they were practically on top of each other (I have a meme about that…). When the hosts asked questions, they both started whispering to each other (I won't say anything more about this). Then there's the dance they did, DD was distracted by GG (my mom told me *the boy in the flowered shirt* didn't dance that well, just looking at GG and that was a comment she made when I didn't even believe that they were SZD, still) and then there's that dance move that couples suspiciously do in their wedding photos. Then, DD started pouting, because GG was paying more attention to Daxun. At the Happy Camp hole games. DD allows GG to win, even though DD is competitive by nature and always wants to win (that seemed pretty obvious to me, DD's “double standard” makes an appearance, for his GG). GG gets jealous of Daxun, when he and DD are trapped inside the hole, one on top of the other (his face is scary), but DD doesn't realize at the time (but then cleverly fixes it). Also, when DD gets hurt (although this isn't a good thing) we see GG's real concern, that he is unlike any other. You can see the others concerned, but GG's concern is so legitimate and true that it even hurts me every time I see him again (maybe because he felt guilty that DD hurt himself from the necklace he gave him). The last thing about this, is the fact that they share every little comment, no matter how silly it is, it is so sweet.

2. TTXS 2019, First is the fact that DD invited GG, I think, he could invited someone else. After all, GG was a person, whom DD knew for a short time in 2018, if we put them on the screen, but still DD decided to take it to TTXS, who are a family to him. Then, GG and DD sang their respectively songs "What I Miss" and "If I Were Young", I mean from all the speculation that was made with bombology, DD was supposed to be angry that day (for some reasons), but when they both sing these songs. The way DD sang the song and how sweet GG smile was, DD's voice was so soft and full of soul, so soothing. GG nailed the high notes and turned to DD to meet his eyes while singing. DD was fascinated even though he can't clearly show it. Uff...every time I see them I have to look away, I can't handle that ... both are so...well, that's why I like it so much ... besides, the fact that DD brought his photo album when he was a child and GG wanted to take it (is a joke 😂), he was serious about bringing the album, DD is so silly cute. GG also sings "Love Confession", when he's sitting with the other guests. DD stares at him with sheep's eyes, until GG signals DD for stop to looking at him (with heart eyes), because they are recording them...this man, I can't handle him, neither of them.

1. Interview for "The Paper", DD and GG both have a stuffed animal in their hands (they both look sweet). MC ask them various things (obviously), they both look so comfortable and smiling. MC even ask them if WWX and LWJ's bedtime was the same as them. DD says no, and GG says he's similar, GG says "Sometimes he ... aren't you?" "Sometimes you will stay up later?" (Me: GG, how do you know that? 👀, they are the best friends forever 😂) and DD says yes. Near the end they talked about when they were both filming, that they should record scenes from when WWX and LWJ were young by the day and at night the "after 13/16 years" scenes. The MC asks, what would they think, if a TV show organizes them to go skiing and DD says he can teach to GG and GG laughs saying he's just a beginner (this kills me, they look so wonderfully comfortable) DD looks sweet saying some of ski techniques, while looking at his GG softly, in the end GG says it's okay. Afterwards, the MC asks what they would say to "CQL" fans who say they look the most beautiful after watching all 50 episodes of the drama. GG say a lot of things with a sweet voice and then he is ashamed (it is a sweetheart) and DD wants to laugh at what his GG says, but when it is his turn he says that he will not say anything, GG shows his rabbit teeth ... (Double standard, it seems DD really likes when his GG shows his rabbit teeth to him). And here comes my favorite part. The word is supposed to be deep, but I don't really know what it means, it seems like something important and obviously GG is very surprised that DD said it. Well, they ask you to describe the CQL summer in three words. GG answers right away, burning hot "灼热" (not the literal characters) and DD thinks about it for a moment, quite a bit, compared to how fast GG answered. At the end, DD says true fellings "真情实感" GG looks at him for a moment and lets out a WOW!!! Very tall, covering his mouth, he seemed very surprised. DD seems to realize that it was obvious (it's my imagination), but he says he wants to change the phrase to touching "就 感人" (or something like that) but, GG tells him that they aren't going to edit just because he said that ... I mean, he screwed up 😂😂😂. Simple woman, this is the first place after all.

Bonus

Honorable Mention

Sina Interview in CQL film place. When, GG starts to flatter DD by saying that he danced well in TTXS, but later he realizes that he was not only a good dancer, but also a good actor and when he mentions that LZ doesn't have many lines (mentions LWJ and DD gets angry 😂😂😂), DD makes this face. (Note that DD was happy, as he watched his GG compliment him, until he mentioned LZ)

My 5 Favorite BTS by GGDD

My 5 Favorite GGDD Fake Rumors

[accio-victuuri]

Do you have any favorite fanmeeting/CQL concert? I've only watched the concert one in Nanjing which I loved bc it was them singing only (CQL OST is perfect), but I've read mixed reviews about the one in Thailand bc it only focused on GGDD and the others were just there as decoration. And how many were they?

THAILAND FANMEET!!!!!! I’m so mad that I wasn’t a fan yet or I would have gone there no questions. It’s pretty close to me ( and i’ve been wanting to go since feb last year ). I loved that cause we had the smiling GG moment and that fake kiss + the interview where they wore white + bazaar pictures omg glorious. It was chaotic behind the scenes and everything else that was going on— but that FM was magical. at least for me. As much as I agree that every cast member deserved their time in that FM— the truth is, the people attended mainly for GG and Web. The organizers were just doing what i guess is, what most of the audience wanted. The fan support for them were amazing!

Fanmeets were. Beijing ( this one is online and they were still unprepared) , Tianjin, Thailand and Nanjing. NANJING was amazing of course. cause they were more prepared and at that point they understood how big this is and that fans were expecting. but it’s so melancholic to me since it was the last show. very bittersweet. 👇🏼

[bluestardreamer]

Hi! I’m the anon that asked wangxianficrecs a/ yizhan fic recs. I’m looking for fics a/ the difficulties wyb and xz would face by being queer in China and having to keep a secret relationship bc they’re famous. Also if you have any personal favorite fics, those would great too! But no worries if you don’t feel like doing this!

Hey! Sorry for taking so long in answering your ask. I was trying to find a really good fic that I read a few months ago that fit your description perfectly but couldn’t find it. I think you’ll like these fics though since they cover some aspects of what you want though!

if you would only let you

gdgdbaby

Summary:

"Well?" Yibo demands. Past the severe frown tugging at the corners of his mouth, a flicker of the old him slips through, the persistent boy who shoved his way into Xiao Zhan's space without a second thought and made a home for himself there. "Are you coming or not?"

Xiao Zhan's heart twists. He forcibly settles it back in his chest. He's only told Yibo no once in his entire life, and it was already the hardest thing he's ever had to do. "Okay," Xiao Zhan murmurs, quiet but decisive, and thumbs his phone off. "Let's go."

Comments: I think the authors note at the beginning should explain very well why I believe you would like this story: “this is a road trip story, and a story about two boys being in love and getting together, but it is also a story that touches a lot upon the pressures of fame, idol & fan culture, and societal homophobia” and, yeah, those are big aspect of the story since Xiao Zhan just feels so tired and beaten up from the pressures of stardom. It also deals with Xiao Zhan’s feelings about being queer in China and how trapped he feels because of this. It’s a one-shot but it’s over 30k so it’s really fulfilling to see his development though this journey.

next time there's no doubt

annemari

Summary:

"It's someone you've worked with before, actually," his manager says.

"Oh, really?" he asks. "That's great. Who?"

"Wang Yibo."

Xiao Zhan leans heavily against the kitchen counter. "Oh."

A few years after breaking up with Wang Yibo, Xiao Zhan ends up having to work with him again.

Comments: This is a getting together fic but the reason why they break up in the first place is related to what you want. It’s been a while since I read it and I don’t think it delves too deeply into the issue but I remember really liking it when I first read it.

We Are Made to Love

OverthinkingThis

Summary:

He drew in a deep breath, lost in thought for a moment as he recalled the fan frenzy and industry scrutiny that had been building since Chen Qing Ling aired, and how unprepared he had been for it. Flicking his eyes up at Yibo’s face on the screen, he murmured, “Don’t you ever miss our life from before? Before A-Ling changed it?”

-----------------

Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo are in quarantine far apart when the AO3 controversy hits. It's a perfect storm -- a pandemic, a cyberbullying campaign, and the pain of being separated -- how will they get through it? By remembering what brought them together in the first place.

Comments: This fic is still ongoing and it shows many moments based on real life events. It also deals with the difficulties of keeping a long distance relationship and the insecurity that comes from having to hide their relationship and not be allowed to be together. I’m still not completely caught up to the last few couple chapters but it’s really good and ggdd’s relationship feels real at many moments (also there’s a lot of candy references.)

I know I have way more than that that covered your criteria but a lot weren’t bookmarked so I’ll have to compile them later. I’ll probably make a longer fic rec list later too (probably divided in parts since as I was working on one I passed over 50 fics whoops) when I have more free time. Hope you manage to enjoy these 3 in the mean time!

[jcisthebestfightme]

BJYX Song #4: DDU-DU DDU-DU

BJYX Song Series List

Disclaimer: This is all my own headcanon.

After 3 very heart-wrenching songs, I’ve decided to have some fun with this next one. From CQL bts, we can see ggdd singing and dancing to “Ddu-du Ddu-du” by Black Pink a couple days after the song was release in June 2018. But why do they like this song so much? I think I have a theory. 

First, we need to subscribe to the 2017 love at first sight theory. When dd met gg for the first time in March, 2017, gg introduced himself on ttxs with a finger-gun pointed to the camera.

We then see dd imitating this gesture. (I want to point out that all the other host of ttxs were also imitating this gesture because they were kinda making fun of gg. It’s not exclusive to dd.) But this means that this gesture has left an impression on dd.

More than dd, this gesture left an impression on another host of ttxs when later in the episode, he revisited the finger-gun sign as a way of flirting, and said he “learned it from dd.” What? I thought gg was the one to do it? Weird.

We now time travel to filming of CQL. Unfortunately, I am unable to pinpoint the exact date for many of these bts footage so I apologize for this. We just have to assume all these were happening around these couple months. 

In one interview, gg was taking solo photos and making finger hearts. Dd then yelled “比槍” or “do a finger-gun” and gg did one pointed directly at dd. Is it possible that dd said that because he remembered gg’s introduction in 2017? Yes, because if love at first sight is true, you will remember that moment very vividly. Dd probably equate the finger-gun symbol to flirting already.

In a fan-cam footage, we see gg saying to dd “Yibo, I will give you a fingergun” and then dd looked so happy.

In an interview during filming, the interviewer asked “What is making a heart?” And gg made a finger-gun. This tells us that gg also equates the finger-gun as showing love.

Dd also promoted LWJ first by making the traditional finger hearts but then turning them back into hearts.

This following one is my favorite heart finger gun because it was completely unprompted. In this scene, WWX had rain being poured on and gg had some dirt on his face. Dd wanted to wipe it off but gg gave him a “warning look” cuz there were cameras recording. But then gg gave dd a very loving look. You can see the full video here. Then dd teased gg by saying he’s handsome even without makeup, gg gave dd a thumbs up. The thumbs up then turned into a finger-gun very briefly. It was so fast yet so natural, confirming that this is like a secret gesture between the two of them.

Another one! Gg giving dd a “finger-gun” when WWX was hanging off the cliff. From the video, it seems like dd got emotional over WWX dying so gg maybe was trying to comfort him. This one was also pretty deliberate yet not prompted by camera or for effect. Credit to DY. 

So I started wondering if finger-gun is just a popular trend in China at that time to demonstrate love, similar to the Korean finger hearts. However, when I search “比槍“, I found out people on Chinese Q&A asking “Why does XZ/WYB do finger-guns”. Another proof that it’s only a thing between them is that during an interview in 2019, gg was asked “Why do are your finger hearts so much bigger than others?” This question tells us that it’s not a common trend and people were perplexed by this. Gg then have to explain that they were finger-guns and not hearts. He also said that “it’s because WE thought everyone did hearts so WE wanted to do hand-gun.” Who’s we? Are ggdd in their own world again?

Edit: Here, WZC (Jiang Cheng’s actor) was asked by a fan to do a “finger-gun” and he didn’t know what that was/meant. The interviewer had to explain it’s something gg talked about doing. This further supports the hypothesis that the “WE” is only ggdd. WZC is probably the cast member closest to gg other than dd because of the number of scenes they have together so it’s unlikely it’s a joke amongst other cast members if even he didn’t know.

So back to our song. 

We know that the “Ddu-du-ddu-du” means shooting finger-guns and that Black Pink is trying to shoot their love at you. Isn’t that just like the hand gesture that ggdd share. We can see him doing the dududu finger-gun on set to each other, even when they’re at a distance that’s hard to talk to each other. We know that it’s “their thing” because the actor of LXC asked dd what they were doing and he had to explain “Black Pink.” I also find it funny that everyone else (Shijie, JC, JGY, etc.) just ignores them LOL.

I won’t analyze the lyrics since I don’t speak Korean so I wont’ be making a faithful analysis. In addition, ggdd aren’t as focus on singing the song as they are on doing the dance and hand gesture. It’s just interesting to point out that the song is about Black Pink having a lot of personality and not caring about what others think of them, a vibe similar to dd’s “No Sense.”

Easter egg #1: In the 520 video (Chinense Valentine’s Day) in 2020, dd is still using the finger-gun as a gesture of love.

East egg #2: I was wondering if maybe finger-gun gesture if a thing in Korea since we see it in Blackpink and also APink’s “Mr. Chu” video that dd has danced to before. Since dd trained in Korea, maybe it’s something he picked up there. I asked my friend in Korea that’s a bit of a socialite and she said no, it’s not a thing. She was perplex by the question and had to try to reason it herself which proves it’s not common. 

Easter Egg #3: During an interview filmed on 7/29/18 (the same one where they gave each other a song), ggdd were asked to do charades. One of the clue was “dududu”. Dd keep getting it wrong so gg had to repeat the finger-gun three times. Some analysis video deduced that dd was getting it wrong on purpose because you can see his mouth smiling slightly. What’s more telling is that when he finally got it right, gg gave him a “bunny teeth warning,” telling us that gg knew dd was messing with him. It’s speculated that dd was getting it wrong so he can see gg do the gesture multiple times LOL But maybe he was just annoyed that dd wasn’t getting it ‘cuz it was so obvious? 😅

[yellowrose222]

Favorite "Awww yizhan moments"

Okay...This is very common yizhan picture where DD watching GG with cow eyes .what is the aww factor here?!

If you see clearly you can see the mist firmed from humidifier towards GGs face.Bobo was busy setting that humidifier to GG s face when the interview was taken.He knows GG always use humidifier in his room because he was used to that humid climate from his birthplace.he is sensitive to dry climate.

Love no needs to be shown using flowers and presents.Little small caring things we do for our soul mate makes the difference.awww Bobo!

[yellowrose222]

Favorite aww yizhan moments

You can see the difference in their eyes.Others watching DD like "He is such mischievious kid".

GG is like "How He is looking cute while acting savage?! I adore him ( heart eyes😍)"

[yellowrose222]

Favorite "Awww yizhan moments"

This is my very favorite picture.The pain of leaving something which was very precious-We must have faced this situation in our life in various situations like school,college farewells etc.But I can't imagine the pain of giving farewell to the character you have cherished in your heart.Givjng farewell to the life you have experienced in front of cameras.Top of all ,the bond with people which was created while doing the drama.It won't be easy for anyone.Particularly for GG who is a method actor.

Normally when we are sad , we will mostly focus on our feelings of sadness.But DD kept his emotions aside and was worrying about GG the whole time when this CQL farewell happened.He wasn't able to hug GG and console him in front of the crowd.The pain in his eyes.Awww DD.

[yellowrose222]

Favorite "Aww yizhan moments"

This one is not any behind the scenes picture.This is a screenshot from the untamed drama itself.The editor must have misunderstood that the long shot won't show them gigling like a school kids.But DDs yiekies never lie.

NOTE: This is the only place we can get the yiekie appearance in the Drama.what a pity!

Its sad that we haven't got any of the BTS videos of this particular scene till day.But this one second appearance of this gigling gremlins video is enough to prove how much they enjoyed both of their company while working.They both are lucky to have each other and they deserve it.

There is rumour that they tried to shoot "Lan zhan catching Wei Ying who fell from tree to check Lan zhans love for him" scene.But it's sad they are not succeeded shooting it/removed that scene from the drama for some unknown reasons.Such a loss for the fans.

[yellowrose222]

Favorite "Awww yizhan moments"

That perfect illusion angle💝

[yellowrose222]

Favorite aww yizhan moments

[yellowrose222]

Favorite aww yizhan moments

Just by watching the shawdows if you can

see "DDs yiekies smile with twinkling eyes" and hear GGs voice telling "don't start again yibo. Are you a human?!" then your a true turtle.

Pic credit to the owner.

[rainbowsky]

If you could meet xz and wyb, what would you want to tell them/ask them/talk about? (assuming there were no language barriers)

This is a fun question. One I'd answer from a couple of slightly different perspectives.

Fake, fan fiction, CPN.

As a turtle

I'd want to know what they think of turtles, how they refer to us, how they feel about all the works done in their name, what are some of their favorite fake rumors and CPN, what are some of the most outrageously funny and incorrect takes.

If they really do have a special place in their heart for BXG, as I have long suspected.

Which fanworks they like best. If they're Zanbii and Bobii fanatics like I am. What they think about blogs like mine and some of the personal posts I make about them, and what their favorite BTS clips are. Any funny back-stories to some of my favorite GGDD moments. Maybe solve some of 'the mysteries of yizhan'.

Was GG really at SDOC3? How did it all come about?

Did DD arrange for the scorpions in the Qingdao snacks video?

Did they really quarantine together? Did GG really teach DD to make the pancake?

Is there any truth to the Devil's Timeline? When did they really get together, and how did it happen?

How many of the graphics, comics and album covers did GG actually design/draw?

How did the covid heart thing happen, and who drew the image?

WHAT IS THE REAL MEANING OF 622??

As a person

I'd want to talk about their interests, goals and dreams. Things we might share an enthusiasm for. Probably games, for example, and extreme sports, literature and art. Design, communications, business. Industry stuff. Fashion, Spongebob, Spiderman, films and TV. I'd also love to know about what they hope to achieve, where they plan to take their careers next, if there's anything new they want to learn or try. How they feel about the trajectory of their lives.

If there were no barriers

If there were absolutely no barriers, and absolutely no consequences to them or to me - in other words, if no topic was off-limits or unsafe - I would want to ask them about their politics, values and beliefs.

I'd be especially curious to talk with them about queer politics and what Pride might mean to them. What it's like being a queer superstar in China, what it's like having to be so publicly closeted, how they feel about the awful homophobia of many of their solos, how they feel about the restrictive government policies, what they feel the chances are for change in their lifetimes.

Whether they ever plan to come out publicly as a couple, and why.

I'd also be curious to know how they feel about a wide variety of sociopolitical topics they aren't at liberty to discuss right now. How they really feel, what they really think about so many things. How they really feel about their fans. How GG really feels about 2/27. How did DD feel when he had to cut ties with Nike and delete all his posts. There are dozens of questions I'd ask if I could.

I'd absolutely love to be able to talk to them from a journalistic perspective, and maybe write something in-depth and heartfelt about the real GG and DD. Give a loving, honest, no-holds-barred (but deeply respectful) perspective on their lives and on their relationship. Maybe even a book.

Mostly I'd just want to enjoy watching them talk with each other in their cryptic, chaotic, multi-language, bickery way. I'd be perfectly content with that. I miss seeing that so damn much, it's like an ache in my heart. A huge part of why I'm such a LRLG fan is because that's the only opportunity we ever get to catch a glimpse - fake or otherwise - of the unique, sweet, heart-warming, often hilarious rapport they have with each other.

Thanks for the question, Anon!

[rainbowsky]

Hi hi! I'm the fic anon from a few days ago! Guess what, I took your advice and got myself to read Epiphyte, and wow you are right it must have healing properties. There's been a lot going on on my personal and professional life lately and it's like that fic was perfectly written for me in this moment. Truly such a great recommendation, I can't praise it enough (the fig tree metaphor is gonna stick with me for a long long time 🥺)

I think what I'm also realizing is that it helps when the writer so clearly writing with love for GGDD as people and not as celebrities meant to simply entertain or fulfill a fantasy, even if it's just a completely fictional and mostly harmless way to show and share that love with others in the fandom. Your comment about sticking to AUs made a lot of sense, cause it is just like watching something starring our boys, which is what we're really wishing for I think, deep down. That and for them to have the sense of peace and joy the fic allows them, it's a good space for hope and love to blossom.

I'm very wary if parasocial relationships as I'm sure many are which is why I had so many reservations about reading ggdd fics in the first place. Remembering it's fiction is one thing, but as someone whose empathy causes them to get so wrapped in the emotions of that which they read, its touch to balance keeping it all separate. I realized it was mostly anoit the names, but if something is written with a fan's love and respect, surely thats not such a bad thing, right? This is the first time ive delved deeper into fandoms for celebs, beyond the simple admiration i feel. Being a turtle has certainly provided me with many firsts (mostly pleasant and not as uncomfortable as i thought it might have been), but its still making me overcome a lot of my own anxieties in a way i never thought id have to. I have a feeling I will be navigating that line for a while, but I'm truly grateful for your encouraging words and stellar recs! Thank you! (I think I might go for that coffee shop rec next 👀)

(Apologies for the long ask, but I have a lot of thoughts and I'm proud of myself for branching out of my comfort zone! Thanks a bunch to you!!!! ☺️☺️☺️☺️)

This is in reference to a previous post.

ANON! I'm so glad you enjoyed the story! It's a favorite!!

It was definitely a bit of a leap for me when I first started reading GGDD fic. I had actually never read fanfic of any kind before becoming a GGDD fan, so it was all very new to me. I asked myself the simple question: Would I be upset if someone had written this about me? And the answer was no. These stories are lovingly written, and most of them very respectful of GG and DD.

Even the ones that I find offensive are obviously not written in a mean-spirited way. They just reflect our differences in interpreting GG and DD, our differences in taste and interests, our different levels of comfort with certain things, etc..

Ultimately I think a lot of misgivings people have about RPF are the result of widespread misconceptions about fan works. I talk a bit about my thoughts on all that here.

I hope you continue to enjoy some of the great stories out there, and maybe even one day try your hand at writing something yourself!

Thanks so much for the update!! 💖

My fic recs can be found here:

GGDD Fic

WangXian Fic

[rainbowsky]

Hi! I saw that you mentioned that the bts of them (them being dd and gg) play-fighting and handling each other aren't even the most exciting ones, and now I'm curious! What are your favourite bts moments? or the most telling? Would you mind sharing with us? Thank you <3

Anonymous 2 said:

in response to what you said about the nie ancestral tomb bts not being as major as people make it out to be , what are your fav bts moments ? or any bts moments that really made you think wow they’re really together? for me it’s the 4 men weibo chat

This is in reference to a previous post.

I’ve talked about this before but I might as well update that list. Here are some of my faves.

9 minutes of bickering on a boat - Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can compare to simply watching these two interact and chat. They are entertaining as hell. I think it’s a ridiculous, insane shame that they haven’t been given a regular variety show together. Money to be made!! These guys are good for TV.

Everything GG did to make DD’s birthday special - I get choked up just thinking about DD being bullied online, GG being there to cheer him up and look out for him. There are many bts videos about this, some of the best ones come from that time.

GG singing Sam Smith Lay Me Down to DD - I cannot possibly overstate how much I love this bts. Everything about it was 💋👌. More on that here.

The chocolate bar hug

GG in the rain with mud on his face, DD reaching out to wipe it off, those soft GG eyes

The entire makeup room saga

Flirty GG kabedon - how is DD still sane?

GG and DD singing Nanhai and Kepler to each other  

GG chasing DD with a caterpillar while the rest of the staff scramble to get out of their way

DD complaining water leaked into his boots while GG is standing waist-deep in the pond, about to submerge his entire body and face (and having to do a second take)

GG and DD’s innuendo-laced banter in the cave, GG making a certain gesture at DD

I wouldn’t ban you (it’s always been a huge favorite of mine, I can’t fail to mention it)

I don’t even think that’s the half of it. There are a lot of really good clips, probably a ton I am forgetting about. Most of them were released as part of the official bts, so easy to find on YouTube.

Every one of these is infinitely more exciting than the Nie tomb one. That one is so underwhelming, I don’t understand the hype about it. I mean, we’ve seen GG and DD make overtly sexual gestures to each other in the bts and people get worked up about a bit of play wrestling?