#For me I understand Caitlyn's character completely and I don't need this scene.
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In this interview Amanda said something that caught my attention. Do you think that in ep 8 Caitlyn will talk about what Jinx did to her when she kidnapped her? Bc Amanda said that in ep8 there's a Caitlyn line that will make us say "Oh so that's why"
Amanda means this line that Cait is going to say will let us know why she was so mad at Jinx in ep 3 and how Caitlyn went completely blind when she saw Jinx in her target and bc of her anger and also her fear and terror of Jinx, Cait has completely lost control of herself in this moment. (there is someone who made a post on this topic @loycos and talked about what happened to Cait in ep3 and how Cait didn't see Vi or Isha in front of her bc of her anger and her deeply terrified of Jinx) I mean look at her eyes and the expression on her face, yes she looks angry but she is also terrified.
This is a natural reaction. I mean for example, imagine that you see something that scares you so much. There are two reactions, either flight or fight, and these reactions always come without a person thinking. At this moment the person is only thinking about getting rid of the thing that scares him, and he does not focus on what is around him bc these strong feelings control him.
Anyway, what makes me sure that this scene might happen in ep 8 (Caitlyn talking about what happened to her when Jinx kidnapped her) is Reed Shannon (Ekko VA) comment when he saw the drawing and said "I thought this was a leak" Reed might be joking as usually, but why this particular drawing and why he chose this word "leak".
But honestly if this scene actually happened and we knew what happened to Caitlyn, it would make us understand more why she was so angry and scared of Jinx when she saw her in front of her and it would also explain why she literally went blind and didn't see anything around her at that moment, neither the child nor Vi, all Cait saw was Jinx, she just wants to bring down Jinx. I mean look at these pictures she is so terrified of her
Again Caitlyn's insistence on killing Jinx in the scene in ep 3 was not only motivated by revenge on Jinx, but also out of fear and terror of her.
And not like those idiots who say that Caitlyn wanted to kill the child on purpose to get to Jinx or even say that she wanted to kill Vi too, or bc she's a cop and the cops kill children and blah blah... That's really ridiculous and annoying!! Bc if we focus a little bit on the period that Caitlyn went through we will see that Cait didn't have time to process all these things that happened to her, from the torture that happened to her when Jinx kidnapped her, then the killing of her mother, then the attack on the memorial ceremony. (I know that Jinx is not the reason, but from Caitlyn's perspective she thinks that Jinx and the Silco followers are the reason)
And in the end I hope that no one comes who doesn't like the post bc I am defending Caitlyn's character. If you don't like this character I don't care, there is no need for you to write a stupid comments. Please don't tire your little fingers if you don't like my post block me this is better for you and me. I will not waste my time responding to you, I will delete your comment and block you immediately.
I am a student at the Faculty of Psychology, and when I talk about trauma and the interpretation of human behavior and reactions, I know well what I am talking about. Bc most of the characters' reactions in this show are very realistic and need to explanation, writers do not want to explain everything in the show, they want viewers to occupy their mind and explain the events themselves (And I still repeat the point that the show focuses on the development and complexity of the characters more than anything else, and does not focus on solving political issues, the show is not about politics, okay)
And btw some people ask me about my opinion of Jinx's character, I have no problem with her character at all, I like her and I understand her condition, when I criticize her actions, it doesn't mean I hate her.
One day I may do a post about her character development and her condition, but I see that there are many posts about her and her actions, and I feel like I won't say anything new about her. Unlike the rest of the characters like Vi and Caitlyn, there are not many people talking about them. And maybe I will make a Viktor post bc I really like the development of his character. When the show ends, maybe I will.
#For me I understand Caitlyn's character completely and I don't need this scene.#but in my opinion if it happens it will be good for those people who think that Cait is a villain or a character without feelings.#and she wants revenge all the time. we saw her after a period of time she began to process and realize things around her more.#and she began to doubt Ambessa and Ambessa's unjustified violent actions.#and how Caitlyn did not like the way Ambessa handled everything violently.#caitlyn#caitlyn defender#caitlyn support#caitlyn kiramman#ambessa#ambessa medarda#vi#vi arcane#jinx#jinx arcane#isha#isha arcane#viktor#viktor arcane#ekko#ekko arcane#caitvi#arcane#arcane season 2#arcane league of legends#arcane netflix#league of legends#reed shannon#amanda overton#arcane spoilers
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while isha was very much a cutesy character that helped soften some of the harsh moments of season 2, i ultimately feel that her existence was unnecessary.
the moment she appeared onscreen and immediately tagged along with jinx, i got the sense that she was incredibly hamfisted into the plot for the purpose of eventually making jinx Suffer More. the progression of their relationship (which i understand happened over a timeskip, but seriously that timeskip is doing too much heavy lifting -- a problem in its own) from "annoying kid following me around" to "new little sister" isn't elegantly alluded to, it's constantly made extremely obvious. and just to make sure we get the point, riot puts the final nail into that narrative coffin by having jinx literally say aloud that isha is a basically a younger version of powder and paints her hair blue. and then two episodes later, she's gone. just to give jinx yet another reason to go insane, which she doesn't really need.
isha has literally no dialogue. she serves to remind the audience of jinx's past, minus the trauma. it's easy and expected to project a young powder onto every scene she's in, which is just a waste of a new character. but even before the direct isha/powder comparison, jinx declares that she's discarded that persona, that "jinx" is no more. somehow, isha's mere presence even calms down jinx's psychosis to the point that she has a mild break for presumably the first time in a while only after isha is taken away, which just feels extremely lazy and gratuitous -- like the big bad Insanity is just a convenient lever to pull when the plot needs more tension and drama, rather than something that jinx has suffered from her whole life, and which silco's death amplified to the max.
all of the interesting plotlines i was looking forward to, like caitlyn's spiral into vengeance and fascism, jinx's rage and grief and psychosis causing chaos, vi and caitlyn either reconciling or being unable to in the end... it all just feels like it was brushed aside. jinx, after firing a rocket that killed half the piltover council, decides she just won't fight piltover anymore; caitlyn, who's grateful for ambessa's support and guidance in her crackdown on zaun, suddenly turns on her to aid vi; vi, forgetting her life-threatening feud with jinx, abruptly remembers they indeed are sisters who shared a life. so many conflicts conveniently resolved in seconds, when they should've taken at least a few minutes to untangle -- all because we needed so much time devoted to isha and jinx's relationship.
don't get me wrong, i LOVE the emotional moments that have been present so far. i think they do still hit, but their beauty is definitely muted because the pacing is a complete disaster. it was really difficult to enjoy isha having a bug battle with jinx when 1. i didn't even really recognize that jinx and 2. i was constantly thinking about what the other characters were doing. with how many plotlines need to be wrapped up before the finale (zaun's independence, the black rose vs. the medarda clan, mel's supposed magehood, etc.), i'm really not confident that we'll get a satisfying ending, and honestly i wouldn't have minded not having isha in the plot at all if it meant we could get a more coherent and less rushed overarching storyline.
#arcane isha#arcane#insights#arcane spoilers#sigh... and i really truly believed arcane would go the route of the legendary entirely faithful and high-quality game-to-tv adaptation#who knows? maybe i'm just an asshole for not being completely enamored with isha#but i really did not feel like her presence was organic#we don't need her to see what jinx as a normal adult could have been because we already KNOW she had that path closed off to her years ago#and she already had more than enough to propel her chaotic fury and madness after season 1#so now that most of season 2 has NOT been about her waging war on piltover... i do feel rather disappointed#despite the eternal beauty of the animation and the worldbuilding and the music... season 2 cannot hold a candle to season 1#i’m conflicted because she was honestly adorable and her moments were cute but i would take finished storylines over her any day
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Some incoherent ranting/rambling i guess
I really don't understand some people's obsession with fictional characters doing shitty things just conveniently...NOT KNOWING that they're bad?? Idk if that makes ANY sense at all it's 3 in the goddamn morning but let me explain--
I was doom scrolling, as one does, when I came across a tiktok of a marvel fan explaining why actually wanda maximoff had no idea what she was doing with the hex, which, sure, holds true for the BEGINNING of wandavision. But we're shown pretty clearly during the rest of the show that she knows what she's done, how it's affecting the townspeople, and that it's not real...she just needs it to be real. She can't cope with her ACTUAL reality. Her family is gone, and the ones that remain are busy dealing with their own traumas and families (i.e. clint, who I still argue WOULD have tried to find her and help her post-endgame, even if he desperately needed some downtime with his family--but moving on). I'm a wanda maximoff stan, she's my girl, my favourite, my one and only, but she's not a complete idiot. She knew what she was doing. I don't care that she did an objectively bad thing, I care about why she did it and kept on doing it--which is so much more interesting to me, anyways.
Alicent Hightower in HOTD? According to the writers, had no clue that, actually, years of talking about how aegon should be the heir to the throne would result in people ACTUALLY SCHEMING to get him on the throne, even though she seems to be heading the effort the entire time? Listen, the HOTD fandom is something else, and the way they talk about alicent genuinely scares me, but alicent being worried for her kids' safety, reluctantly cutting off all affection for Rhaenyra because she's genuinely terrified for her kids' lives, even just the spite of wanting her years of suffering and humiliation to mean something; alicent being both a ringleader and a pawn in a man's game, because ultimately she's resigned to the fact that the closest she can get to winning in this system (under this wheel, if you will), is finding the best man to propel to victory/be a pawn for because she as a woman will ultimately never be the victor herself--is SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING than "okay, yeah, she spent years declaring how unfit her ex-bff/stepdaughter is to rule, but she didn't know people would actually take that seriously...she just wants rhaenyra to be OKAY, yall..." (I have a lot of feelings about how the show wrote alicent, okay?)
And arcane is one of my favourite shows of all time, and I've been lucky enough to MOSTLY stay on the good side of the fandom, which, from my end, is usually pretty amazing with an appreciation for nuanced media. But it genuinely makes my blood boil when I see people claim that Vi "could have gone back for jinx on the bridge" (ep. 7), when the moment they're referencing is vi supporting an injured Caitlyn, who almost died by jinx's bombs, RIGHT AFTER JINX SHOT AT THEM BOTH, AND RIGHT AFTER EKKO TOLD VI TO GO. "She left her sister to get beat up--" everything in vi's face in that scene speaks to her reluctance. She's holding up a girl she's growing closer to, who could actually be grievously injured, and she knows, at this point, that jinx is irrational--jinx just shot at her. Like...we knew that vi wasn't going to die, but she could've really easily. Ekko says he'll handle it. There's another bomb. Vi goes back to look for jinx AS SOON as Caitlyn's sitting down somewhere relatively safe (at which point, you know, she sees jinx being picked up by silco and his sidekicks). The point is, people act, with scenes like this one, like jinx was chucking paint bombs, not shooting fucking bullets en masse. I love all the arcane characters; jinx is such an interesting one, and her hallucinations and delusions do tend to make us wonder how much responsibility we can rightfully place on her shoulders. But people are really out here acting like she didn't...almost kill vi and cait there? We, from jinx's perspective, know that she saw Caitlyn as the literal devil; from vi and cait's povs, she just kind of walked up and tried to kill them. Am I making my point yet?
Speaking of arcane, i hope in season 2 we get scenes of characters from piltover who are really rooting for the oppression of the undercity. Not because of what jinx did, not because of the war, not because they "just don't know" how bad it is...because they make a profit off of it, and for that they are perfectly content letting people become dependent on drugs and make their livings from dangerous work in factories and mines. The whole point of "the city of progress" is that it became what it was off the backs of the undercity. We get a lot of characters in season 1 REALIZING the conditions down there, but I want them realizing in season 2 that not everybody was sheltered, they were just making a profit. (I kind of want to see Heimerdinger called out, too. Like, yeah, he's fluffy and cute and stuff, but if he's the founder of piltover, he's also been there since the beginning of the undercity, and didn't care because immortality yada yada. Have I envisioned scenes of ekko calling vi a sellout and she's just like "bitch and who the fuck are you working with?" and everybody's miserable? Yes. Yes I have. And don't come for me, ekko is the mvp of this show. Let a girl dream).
Even people like Tony Stark...people be acting like he's not actually an asshole a lot of the time. Or that he didn't know what weapons did before he stopped distributing them. I like tony, he's entertaining. But I'm not going to act like I need him to be a saint who didn't know shit about the world or basic courtesies to like him.
Idk if fandoms are just weird like that, but you can like your fave even if they do shitty things. They don't always have to be helpless, or just too stupid to realize what's going on. I don't understand why so many people are opposed to being entertained by people who do shitty things. Where's the appreciation for the drama? The messiness? The chaos?
#hotd#alicent hightower#arcane#house of the dragon#little rant#fandom shit#fandom things#fandom culture#wanda maximoff#marvel#tony stark#ekko#vi arcane#jinx arcane#heimerdinger#arcane piltover#arcane zaun#wandavision
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Honestly I feel like Sevika found more kinship in Jinx in a sense that she was the one who had the balls to actually attack Piltover - something I feel Sevika would consider a very just and needed move - and this is why she works with her now. Idk, I keep thinking about the scene where Sevika argues with Vander and now Sevika actually has someone who does look like a symbol of rebellion.
(Also Vi as a cop and Caitvi definitely going on a revenge campaign but painting it as a justified act in the name of Good irks me. From the writing point I love it - it's very human and understandable, it shows how grief and privilege affects people, but as a viewer I can't get behind these characters anymore except to wait for them to break down completely or achieve their ultimate asshole form. (Caitvi are definitely not going to care for Zaun this season)
yes completely!!! jinx is the first person in sevika's life (that we've seen) who has actually acted against piltover-- which is what sevika's wanted all along.
i'm curious to know if u guys think caitvi will have much romance this season? i feel like vi will be so conflicted about being an enforcer, either their relationship's going to be really rocky OR cait's gonna lay it on thick with vi in order to keep her on the enforcer's side.
i agree completely with your last point too, anon. from a writing perspective, it makes sense to do this to vi's character, and it's a great example of how grief can affect you. it's a delicate balance that i trust the writers will be able to maintain, and i hope that the message never becomes 'enforcers good, zaun bad,' but it remains equally critical of both sides, and shows the motivations behind why they make the choices they do. like u said, for vi a lot of it is grief and guilt, for cait it's grief and privilege.
tbh, i don't see caitlyn ever breaking down because of her decisions/brutality as an enforcer. being an enforcer has been her whole life's goal, forever, and now with the death of her mother to justify it, i doubt any of the 'reunite zaun and piltover; pull back enforcer's power' caitlyn we saw in season 1 will return. i could totally see the inner conflict of her sister, her morals, and her new occupation causing violet to have a breakdown though.
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Forgive me if I get some stuff wrong. I just finished it so I haven't had a lot of time to analyse and these are just my initial thoughts but here's my main gripes with the act
Pacing + I feel like episode 5 was mostly pointless
Right off the bat, I just feel like it was really fast but also really slow and certain things just weren't given enough time. I feel like the Vander Warwick arc shouldn't have been the main plot thread this act or if it was I wish it was more developed? It felt idk. Undercooked. I just feel like the sequence in the mines where they look for him and the whole flashback with him and Silco and their mom felt kind of pointless? Like yay we get a bit more silco and the vague implication that Vander and Jinx and Vi's mom were close and there's undertones they had feelings for eachother but that doesnt go anywhere? We don't learn anything new? I'm glad Vanders not their bio dad because for a second I got scared they were going that direction but like?? Oh he was friends with their mom... Yeah. We knew that 😭 the only thing we really learned was that he gave Vi her name and that Vander did want to make up with Silco but I just feel like so much of that episode could've been spent developing other things
WHY ARE VI AND JINX SO CHILL??? WITH EACHOTHER?
😭 Like after all of season 1's "are we still sisters????" and the whole "yeah you can kill her" in act 1 of season 2, THEY'RE? JUST CHILL NOW??? like okay they had two fights but that's it?? Like? Seriously? I just feel like it felt OOC after everything? I just feel like you'd think there'd be more internal and external conflict after everything. I mean I tried to rationalise that maybe because of the (UNSPECIFIED) time skip and her drinking and spiraling and everything Caitlyn's done, she's like??? More desensitised to what Jinx did but?? STILL??? WHERE'S THE CONFLICT? i think my immersion fully broke when Vi suggested living in the Commune with Jinx like no! You guys haven't spoken in YEARS 😭 YOU HAVEN'T HAD ONE CHILL CONVERSATION SINCE YOU GOT BACK FROM PRISON. ALL OF YOUR SCENES UP THIS POINT HAVE INCLUDED FIGHTING. Why are you so buddy buddy what... this feels completely hollow
Vi and Jayces characters don't make sense to me
I feel like they both changed drastically during the (UNSPECIFIED) timeskip and I'm just so confused on who they're supposed to be now because we barely have time to establish that??? Like we get one montage for Vi that highlights how like self destructive she's gotten but that's it?? I just? Don't feel like we have enough time to establish how much she's changed so a lot of what she does just hits really flat for me
JAYCE NEEDED MORE TIME TO ESTABLISH HIS NEW TRAUMA AND LIKE? THE SHIT HE WENT THROUGH WHEN HE TOUCHED THE ARCANE BECAUSE I DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED THERE? like okay it's implied he went through hell but we don't see it which makes his eventual decision to kill Viktor feel kind of OOC or unearned at least? I feel like we needed like at least one scene of internal conflict at the idea. Idk I don't mind Vi and Jayce spiraling and changing so much but we needed more time to establish and communicate shit because it feels like we went from point A to point D in an instance yknow?
WHERE THE FUCK ARE EKKO AND HEIMERDINGER?????????
Way to sideline them i guess 😭 are they still trapped in the arcane. Where are they...
Why did Sevika get sidelined so hard???
I feel like? She could've been more incorporated into the Vander storyline
I have VERY mixed feelings about Viktor and slight mixed feelings about Singed but my feelings towards Singed are more neutral positive than Viktor
Isha's death
It felt kind of pointless to me (like its clearly there to make Jinx sad again) and I just personally think we could've had more interesting dynamics if she stayed alive but that's more personal taste
They kind of dropped some of the political drama aspect
It was really interesting and gave the first season a strong overarching theme and narrative about corruption and privilege and class struggle and I was originally really excited to see how the Black Rose would affect it because I thought we were going to get some cool stuff about the interactions Noxian and Piltoverian politics and how that affects Zaun but no I guess 😭 feels like a missed opportunity
Uh oh. Finished arcane season 2 act 2. I have thoughts... (neg)
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Hi! Want to talk about Mel a bit? If not you can ignore this ask.
I wasn't a fan of Mel at first because she just didn't grip me in an emotional way (i mostly resonated with Vik as a partially disabled person myself) and I wasn't sure what she would end up being like, but after I saw her past and all the hardship she went thought I understood her motives, why she did what she did and ended up loving her.
I'm really sorry about people being against her for "standing between" Jayce and Viktor.
I'm unsure if you are familiar with the VLD fandom but it felt like Allura vs K《*nce all over again to me, black female characters being torn down for a ship. Fandom racism is a serious problem amongst a bunch of other problems.
I am always up for talking about Mel. Let's talk about Mel.
I completely understand anyone connecting with a character they resonate with. Mel doesn't resonate with a lot of people, and I understand. I am happy you connected with Viktor because he (also a fantastic character) represented you in some capacity. In my opinion, that's a good thing when someone relates to a character for whatever reason.
Your reasons for not liking her (initially) are valid. Mel is a morally ambiguous, manipulative, and frankly, shady character, but from Act 1, I guess I knew there was going to be more of her. But I was already in her corner the second she appeared. There was no way I was not going to be ride or die for Mel. I've always wanted to watch a character like her exist in my fantastical world. She's a politician. She's playing the game of thrones in a morally corrupt city; she needs to be this way to survive.
As much as people may not agree with me, Mel didn't so much influence new traits in Jayce as much as she encouraged what was already present in Jayce. She saw him. She read him. "If you want this, this is what you'll have to pay. Here are all the avenues and channels. I'm sorry, but you're going to get your hands dirty." That's how I read Mel and her relationship with Jayce.
She's a very compassionate woman too. She could've been angry at Jayce for leaving her and she was a little miffed. But when Jayce explained why, she was instantly a source of comfort. She supports Jayce. She helps him, and when she feels he's making a bad play, she voices her opinion respectfully.
She isn't soulless, and you discover this compassion put her at odds with her family. She has a heart. It's so easy for people to demonize and demoralize Mel while lifting fucking Silco, who I also love. He is...something else.
(And then you meet her mom. It explains so, so, so much and btw, I love her mom. Her mom is awesome but also horrible. Just so awesome. The scene when her mom admits why she cast her out? Ouch and yet so amazing.)
I knew what to expect. Fandom claims they are very progressive and inclusive, but that's a bunch of a bullcrap. We know it's a lie. People are assholes, and you're going to find them in wherever fandom you go. Unfortunately, that includes racist misogynists. She's a woman. She's black. She's presented as a viable (and currently canon) love interest for Jayce, who is shipped with Viktor. I'll admit Viktor and Jayce do look like a great couple if made canon. I don't dislike it. What I don't like is when they shit on Mel to support their ship.
I remember VLD. I didn't even care about Klance. I remember loving Allura and Shiro, and that obviously blew up in my face. Hard. I remember all the crap Allura's character got swept up in fandom and canon.
Fortunately, Arcane seems to have raised the bar extremely high, and I feel (hope) Mel is going to get some gosh darn justice in this series.
Just to add, none of the characters are without faults. That's a big point in the series. It's a big point of the story and theme. Every character, or most of them, are doing what they feel is right for their people, consequences be damned in some cases aka Silco.
The most morally upright characters, in my opinion, are actually Caitlyn and Ekko.
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The monster you created
I read @fandomite‘s awesome post about why Jinx and her being a villain, so I’m adding my two cents.
The entire time Jinx is walking to the launch point, and as she's firing the torpedo we hear the soft violin and The Monster You Created. It's not a badass song showing us how badass she is for going to kill all those people, it's sad.
Jinx isn’t an evil character, she’s a tragic one.
I’m constantly amazed by Arcane’s soundtrack and choice of music because it fits perfectly with the story, but this final scene is by far my favourite, and the song gives me the shivers every time I watch it!
Looking at Jinx like a terrorist and a villain is a really one-dimensional view of Arcane in general — yes what she did is horrible (but also consider: this is an imaginary story, it's stupid in itself to assign real life moral judgment on fictional characters but I digress), but i thought the show did a pretty good job of showing us all the little things that lead to this point — if even one thing was different we probably wouldn’t be here. The entire final scene was a result of a bunch of dominos that kept falling on one another way back from before the first episode. But that's the entire point: Arcane (at least the first season) is a tragedy! This was all completely avoidable, except it wasn't. Because the circumstances were like they were, and because Piltover's treatment of Zaun was as it was.
Jinx isn’t just a character in Arcane — this final scene isn't just a culmination of all her issues that she's letting out in a destructive blaze after losing everyone she cares about, but also a culmination of the Piltover-Zaun issues that have been brewing for a long time now. Most of the things that led Jinx on this path are directly or indirectly related to Topsiders’ treatment of Zaun: her childhood, Silco's fight with Vander and his death and by extension Vi's anger at her, the entire way she grew up with Silco — Piltover and their easy life while leaving Zaun people to rot are a constant presence in her life.
This was a war waiting to happen. Vander and Grayson have managed to keep some semblance of peace for a while, but after they’re gone you can see it starts crumbling — Silco’s approach is different and isn’t only focused on keeping the peace, and Marcus in Grayson’s place is obviously starting to crack as time goes on.
In all of that you have one inconsequential little girl, who grew up in the Lanes, who had serious inferiority and abandonment issues among everything else...which in itself doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. But couple that with everything that happened to her, and the way she grew up, living with the world where she lived and living by its rules of only looking out for yourself — there was no way she could’ve grown up “normal”. In this world where everyone only looks out for their own well-being, where could she even get the help she needed?). Silco, as much as he did care about her and helped her, still pushed some of her problems further, albeit not on purpose.
And this inconsequential little girl happens to be very good with explosives and destruction, and she's really intelligent, so she manages to crack hextech on her own. I don’t know if she would do anything on her own with this, i don't know what part of killing the council was her idea and what was Silco's. We don’t know if Jinx at this point in time would do what she did at the end. Maybe. But also maybe not.
But then comes Vi, and then comes Caitlyn, and Jinx feels like Vi doesn’t accept who she is now, like Vi's betrayed her for Topside, and the bridge fight with Ekko happens.
When she wakes up, her eyes are pink and shimmer's changed her. I saw a lot of people saying that the tea party scene was Jinx finally accepting who she is and Vi not understanding but i feel like people forget that this is shortly after whatever Singed did? Jinx with pink eyes doesn’t seem stable. If anything it looks like shimmer only made her more unhinged and also gave her the power, which is never a good combination.
And you see while Vi's convincing her that they could go together that she's wavering. This isn’t planned, everything she does during that tea party is completely unplanned and reactionary to everything around her. Jinx isn’t in control of herself for the majority of this scene. And then Silco dies and that pushes her over the edge.
Who does she blame for her entire life going to hell? For everyone around her dying? Who was indirectly responsible for near everything that went wrong in her life? And Who's out there enjoying their lives and their richness without ever sparing a second thought to Zaun?
Well now they'll know. We'll show them.
Jinx isn't the monster Vi created.
She's the monster Piltover created.
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That means Vi has to approach this differently,
But that's the whole point, she doesn't do that. That is Vi's whole flaw in that whole storyline thread is about how she doesn't do that.
They table their confrontation as they watch each other and go lick their wounds and come up with a new plan because their understanding of Jinx has changed.
????? Again the whole point is that Vi does not change her plans. And in what way does Silco modify his plans or strategy in regards to Jinx in any way?
The only time you can maybe read as "Silco realizes that he needs to treat Jinx differently" aka the scene where Sevika tells him he needs to let her come to him takes place before the bridge scene. In the dinner scene, he in large parts tells Jinx the same things he already told her in the "face stabby" scene (everyone betrays us/it's just us) and he tries to kill Vi, something he already tried to do in the first confrontation with Vi with the Shimmer addicts. So, again, not a new revelation. Silco didn't need the bridge scene to already consider Vi top priority and "must be killed". The whole scene where he goes apeshit and beats up his goon after Vi and Caitlyn escape (acting in a way very unusually emotional for him) shows how seriously he takes this.
Neither of them comes up with a new plan. Both just stick with exactly the same bad plan they had before. That is exactly the core flaw of both characters that they are incapable of seeing past their hate for each other and that they are incapable of straying from their original plan.
IMO with how Silco narrows his eyes at her, to me what likely goes through Silco's head here is "if I ever had any doubts that you are a piece of shit who is not good enough for Jinx, those doubts are gone now". Because even though we know that it is rational for Vi not to be there with Jinx, in Silco's mind and world that probably just confirms that his "she will just leave/betray Jinx" assessment of her is completely fair and rational.
Silco comes from "Jinx nailed Sevika to the ceiling with LIAR on it" and "Jinx just stabbed me in the face because she was upset". Silco lives with a Jinx who plays with grenades for fun. So, no I don't think that "Jinx might get into danger/put in danger because of Vi" is some sort of new development for him.
(not to mention the other thing that is taking place in this very scene is:
So at least part of Silco might look at this as "she put herself in danger to retrieve the crystal for me".)
It's not wrong that "Vi has a hold on Jinx" or that "Silco knows that Vi has a hold on Jinx", but both of that are things known before this scene. Again Silco's story up to this point has been about seeing that Vi has a hold on Jinx (their story starts out with Jinx telling him about seeing the red-headed Firelight girl) and about him very much taking this seriously from the start. The second he hears about Vi being back he *personally* springs into action, he immediately tries to kill Vi, he completely and atypically loses his shit when that doesn't work and he goes hard and lays it on thick when he lies to Jinx about Vi's reasons for being back.
Silco has IMO has always known how important Vi is to Jinx, that's why he takes her return super seriously from the start. I would argue the reason that he always knew that he does not control that part/that that part is a threat to him is because he goes hard on the topic, again from minute 1.
That's why at the most this scene confirms to him his already pre-existing view on Vi.
As for Vi, I'm gonna go with "oh shit he sees me" (eyes wide) and "now more than ever you piece of shit" (eyes narrowing). Again, unless you want to take the position that Vi is a hypocrite (thinks: "Silco actually seems to care about Jinx" => says to others: "he is a monster"/"you can't talk to him") or an idiot (again because she does not modify her approach in the slightest from pre-existing plans).
IMO it's clear from Vi's behavior that this is a "this proves nothing/I refuse to see/I hate you now more than ever" moment. I don't think that Vi is anywhere close to admit to herself that Silco loves Jinx or that Jinx loves Silco. Like maybe at the most she will be forced to come around to that idea in season 2, but at this point in the story is very, very, very much not there yet.
Remember, this is what Vi thinks about Silco right afterwards:
Then a real monster showed up. And I just ran away. I left her.
This is what she sees in that moment "then a real monster showed up".
And Silco, again, I think he has no delusions about Jinx loving Vi, I think he was always aware of that, he just thinks that it/Vi needs to be eradicated. Because the whole point is that Vi is not worthy. And Jinx injured and Vi on the other side is just a confirmation of that if he ever needed any (which I don't think he was ever all that interested in, he probably would have hated Vi even if he had thought that she was genuinely well intentioned).
i'm really not sure what all i take from vi and silco staring each other down across the bridge, but it seems like silco is giving up his anger at vi for the moment because he's so stunned by jinx's injuries, while vi is realizing that silco seems to actually care about jinx, which doesn't fit her image of him. and she's probably ashamed that silco had to fill this role for her while she was in prison, so whatever jinx feels for silco is her fault. so vi doesn't run to help jinx because she's just now realizing that she's not capable of helping this version of her sister, that everything is more complicated than she thought and she can't just go in fists blazing to fix this. it's a cool acknowledgement from both characters that they are in over their heads.
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