#Euphoria discussions

[characteristiclizard]

Does anybody else hate that sometimes therianthropy is treated like a cute aesthetic rather than an animalistic identity?

I get species euphoria by ripping objects apart, chasing animals, eating without utensils, walking on my toes, feeling how sharp my canine teeth are, among other things. None of these things are dainty or aesthetic, and to the average person it's probably not acceptable/normal behavior.

I feel like therians should (in a reasonable manner, we're still humans/humanoids guys) show this side more. Being animalistic in some way is part of being a therian and it shouldn't be shameful

Note: Im not 100 percent active in the alterhuman community so if I've gotten anything wrong since the last time I was here forgive me

- Lee , host , he/xey

[kewpiekills]

Your art gives me gender envy and I’m (reasonably sure) I’m a cis dude

i hope whatever envy you feel leads you to become more comfortable with yourself in the end. i strongly believe exploring those feelings and knowing what makes you confident in your gender is incredibly important cis or not! even if you explore your gender and decide you’re cis in the end, all there is to gain is a more complex understanding of yourself.

[mediamatinees]

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[icharchivist]

god i want to tear this fucking veil down myself at this point.

[2manythoughtz]

Reasons Why Nate Is The Most Misunderstood Character Of Euphoria

Nate is probably the most misunderstood character of all the series, people both adore and hate him, but why is that?

When you think of Euphoria the first characters that come to mind are Rue, Jules, Maddy and Cassie. While they’re all very well-defined characters, I think we can all agree that Euphoria is great at leaving a cloud of mystery around these people. So, while you take in their backstories and see what they’re up to, you might question their actions and their reasoning since they don’t exactly show you everything you want to know.

While plot holes and mischaracterization aren’t new to fans, what seem like small mistakes when talking about the main characters can later become big trouble for other secondary characters like Nate.

To refresh your mind, Nate is the youngest son of a very important and wealthy family, his great looks and athleticism made him one of the most popular kids in school. He’s the usual asshole jock you can find in any kind of movie, only in Euphoria you can see so many different shades of him that you end up confused and you don’t know what type of person he is.

Why is he so misunderstood in the series?

As I said earlier, he is your typical jock. He’s a douche who plays football, gets the girl, throws wild parties and is overall a pretty bad person. That is until we see his backstory and realize that something is wrong.

1. Sexuality

I’m gonna stop on this point for a while because I feel like no one ever cared/understood what was going on. Ever since we got our first look at Nate’s backstory, during episode 2 of season 1 “Stuntin like my daddy”, I think people have entirely misunderstood his character based on his sexuality.

As we get to see, his psyche is very dark and twisted because of his father’s influence from a very young age, though it was indirect it didn’t stop him from getting this obsession with sex. We can see this through his whole relationship with Maddy which is very sexual and almost obsessive, which to me feels like kind of an anchor to his heterosexuality. But that doesn’t mean that he is homosexual, differently from what everyone in the series seems to think as soon as they find out that he has dick pics on his phone.

So what is he? Truth is, it doesn’t really matter? I don’t think people should concentrate on the right label as the show is good at portraying the fact that sexuality is fluid. If you think about Rue, everyone was so quick to accept her and her relationship just because she’s the protagonist, Jules also gets acclaimed for her initial confusion but Nate gets immediately ridiculed and seen as this weird boy.

Another thing that I see a lot of people talking about is his obsession with Jules in the first season, which to me doesn’t sound like a romantic interest at all and it just goes so far as for the sexual part. They’ve only shared nudes and Nate was no stranger to receiving nudes from other people, both men and women apparently, so there was never something special between them. Yes, they texted a lot and he seemed genuine in getting to know her, but let’s all remember that it all started because Nate knew Jules had hooked up with his father and wanted to protect his family’s name.

I really like how in the first season no one really talks about his preferences that much because we’re all focused on his toxic side after he attacked Maddy.

The second season was a hot mess, that is no secret. I’m not surprised he went for Cassie, if you think about it really hard it makes sense. She is everything he liked and everything Maddy wasn’t. At least at first, in the end, we’re left with a lot of questions after the school play which makes fun of Nate being gay for no apparent reason. We’re left with this curiosity, is Nate really gay and hiding his preferences because that’s what he’s been taught? Or is he simply confused and still trying to understand himself?

2. Trauma

As much as everyone hates Nate’s ways, we must remember that everything happens for a reason. In his case, Nate’s father is the real reason behind his behavior. This is in no way a reason to excuse what he did in the series nor justify him, just trying to understand the reasoning behind his character.

Euphoria has done an incredible job of showing the different traumas that affected most of the main characters, it’s amazing to see how their childhoods impacted their teenage years regardless of how serious you think their problems might be. In this sense, Nate’s childhood is very well described.

Not only he had an emotionally absent father, but he’s only seen his dad being obsessed with having the perfect family while hiding away every flaw they might have. Nate is born with this unexplained anger inside of him that we later find out is passed down by his father, that alone makes it hard for him to grow up without anyone ever noticing it.

The rest of his family is messed up as well, but the father is the real reason for how he behaves. Nate finds out about his father’s sexuality through the recordings of his random hookups with gay men and trans women, this significantly impacts little Nate’s mentality.

Not only does he learn that his father is cheating on his mother, but he also tries to hide his preferences meaning that they’re wrong. Of course, we know that that is not the case, but everything is very well explained in season 2 when we see Cal Jacobs in his teen years having difficulties with his sexuality as well, but that’s another topic to look into.

Nate’s constant obsessive behavior is just a replica of his father’s desperate tentative to have a perfect family while hiding himself. One of the main reasons why I don’t think Nate is necessarily gay is that he is never shown to have a genuine interest in men romantically speaking, just trying to fill his father’s shoes.

3. Toxic Relationships

As I said before, he is in a very toxic relationship with Maddy in season 1 and in yet another toxic relationship with Cassie in season 2. That definitely goes to define his view of love and relationships, not only that but his only example of a regular couple is his parents who barely talk to each other.

Maddy can be labeled as his first love, he goes as far as saying that he would kill for her. But it is also shown that they argue a lot and have many differences that cause them to yell at each other and become physical and that only goes to reinforce his idea that with love comes anger and it’s ok as long as it’s not out there for everybody to see.

That is shown when Nate reacts violently to Maddy insulting him in front of his family and everybody standing there. But when faced with the question about his sexuality he breaks down because he doesn’t know what acceptance is, he feels like he has failed.

With Cassie everything seems to be perfect, she’s gentle and delicate and he thinks she would be perfect to be his future wife. But as their relationship develops, we can see that he quickly regrets his decision once he sees just how broken she is. She’s perfect on the outside but she may be worse than Maddy on the inside and I believe that will definitely shape his view of relationships in the future and he’ll think twice before getting with anyone.

This can also be proved by the fact that even if he and Maddy broke up, they kept meeting up and acting like a couple, even when he was with Cassie. To me, this shows that he’s not comfortable getting with new people and would rather stay with the old toxic ones.

As I said earlier, Nate seemed genuine in talking to Jules even if he wasn’t honest with her. When she finds out that the boy she has fallen for is none other than the school’s jock she is disappointed and scared which is understandable from our point of view, but I think that left Nate bittersweet. He knew he was blackmailing her but from his point of view as long as she kept quiet he wasn’t going to do anything to her, what might’ve developed into a friendship became a hate relationship.

Going into seasons 1 and 2, Nate never tries to hurt Jules again and seems kind of melancholic that they’re not talking anymore. That might be just another way for him to see that he is not fit for friendships with the other sex and keep his view of women as these objects for his pleasure and status.

4. Self-esteem issues

Throughout the series, we can see that Nate is not this big confident jock as everyone think he is. In fact, he is very self-conscious about himself in every way. We can get a first glimpse of this in the second episode of season 1.

Nate has been working out ever since he was a child to get the perfect body, he is ashamed of his insecurities and tends to hide from others. He doesn’t like changing with his teammates in the locker room, he doesn’t feel comfortable having people around him and he needs to be in control of the situation and also everyone close to him.

His sexuality of course is his number one insecurity, he doesn’t know how to hide it so he tries his best to focus on finding the perfect girl. As I anticipated before, his relationship with Maddy feels like an excuse to feel and show his heterosexuality even though we know he isn’t. As soon as that facade is over he doesn’t seem to care about anything, not Maddy, not Cassie and definitely not Jules.

His aggression, his jealousy and his need to protect those he cares about all come from the fact that he is insecure, he fears they will leave him and he’ll lose the only people he actually accepts. At the end of the day, he is still a teenager and feels just like most teenagers which is something I feel like most people completely forget and see him just as this grown asshole that only cares about himself.

In conclusion, while Nate is probably the most hated character in the series, he is so complex and has a lot of potential, it’s a shame that it was wasted in the end. There is so much more to say about him that I think was completely missed throughout the second season. There is so much people want to know about Nate’s future, is he going to hide all his life and play pretend like his father? Or will he break the cycle and finally be himself?

What do you think? Feel free to join the discussion with your personal thoughts! Do you agree? Do you disagree? Let me know!

[bigfootsboytoy]

I need to donate my useless tits to someone else immediately. All they cause is suffering

[theauthorityvol1]

i posted this Tommy on his own already but i forgot id made all those little #aesthetic sketches 😭

[crepuscular-haze]

I have achieved greatness

[totally-not-up-to-anything]

Can someone pls lmk how to either get a scale and/or weigh myself w/o family finding out 💗

[gracefullou]

"Almost as if Sony overlaid Fine Line and Walls promo because they wanted to promote one over the other..."

Yes Fine Line was being promoted at the same time Walls was being promoted because they were released 6 weeks apart. It's not a conspiracy ffs. Fine Line was Sony's biggest-selling album for about 9 months. They were not thinking about Walls when they promoted it. Those two albums were not being mentioned in the same conversations. Get real.

What has Harry playing a show or having dinner or being at a birthday party got to do with Walls, and why do you know and why do you care?? Honestly it's this kind of unhinged stuff from fans that keeps Louis tied to Harry forever.

Zero reading skill whatsoever. Read that ask and answer again. The anon said that they hope LT3's release would be distanced from TS and the weekend for obvious reasons and Hrry's bc it happened before and larries and directioners proved their loyalty belongs to that man only. Those things over lapping don't matter to you bc you're not a larry and obviously a Hrry fan 😬 but these people think those two are married and find it completely acceptable how the promo of the two albums went (only fl was promoted), how Hrry was in another continent the release of walls and so many other things like Sea mentioned. And fyi, Hrry wasn't the big star he is now before fl. He needed larries and directioners at the time (he doesn't anymore). If only they showed a little support towards Louis with the whole Euphoria thing, if only they expressed their anger when the ugly baldie dared to disrespect Jay and call her someone's mom, if only they called him out when that man said very proudly and insensitively how he always knew he wanted to sing the whole thing when he was in the band (he basically sang the whole song minus like 30 secs and even that wasn't enough. Imagine how Louis and Niall felt 😬. And that wouldn't be a problem if he said that with more finesse and consideration since the start of the hiatus instead of the big stink about fans getting tired of us 😂. Everyone knows he was the one who "suggested" the hiatus and man basically confirmed that he did it bc he wanted solo and still got zero backlash. I really believe that the fl promo is the reason his team knows he can get away with anything when it comes to his stupid fans bc if they ignored that, they'll ignore everything else). That whole campaign reeked of desperation, they left no stone unturned. Idk how his "fans" didn't get tired of his shirtless pics and him saying the word sex every two sentences 😭. To answer your question, why do i know? Bc in 2019 Louis was yet to release his album, i was on Twitter a lot waiting for updates and i was pretty indifferent towards Hrry so his name wasn't blocked and it was his album promo time ofc he was all over my tl (his name and many things about him are blocked now and still i get the jumpscare of seeing his face regularly 💔. Also, can y'all stop pretending that you don't get updates about the other memebers when they do something bc i dislike all of them and have their name and many things associated with them blocked and still they show up in my tl 😔). And thank god i know otherwise maybe i would've bought the bs larries say to defend the Euphoria thing and the someone's mom comment (it's funny how you lived through something and you know exactly what happened and then you have someone who probably wasn't even there at the time and try to tell you no you didn't see that you're wrong 🙄). It's not me or us who call out larries' behavior and sometimes that man's actions in relation to Louis and the band who are tying Louis to him. It's the larries who after everything disregard Louis' pride, his ambition, his self respect to ship him with a man who has never ever showed him half the grace, half the kindness. Even in the ask you're referring to, Sea moved on to express her happiness with fitf and how things are different for Louis now, it doesn't really matter how close/ distant his album's release will be from that man's.

[troblsomtwins829]

Euphoria Follows

Been thinking about Euphoria again. That strange dream about that bright church at the top of the hill. About Father Brown, the Chaplain, Cabbie, Runner. About all the people there doing their jobs and regardless of weither they're happy, they're still trying.

Chaplain isn't a happy man. I know this now. He's deeply depressed and despite how much he wants to partake in Euphoria, the drug, the church, whatever, he can't. He's physically unable to be happy no matter what he does.

And that...that has to hurt to know that. To know deep down that you will never be happy but trying anyway. Trying and trying and trying. Ddicating every waking moment to your work, something you put so much of yourself into that the quality of your workis now synonymous with how you value yourself. And when that quality starts dropping for one reason or another...what do you do?

Father Brown knows this. He's aware of this deep unhappiness that the Chaplain feels, and he wants to help. But he doesn't know how to help because Chaplain doesn't ever ask. Father Brown's stepped in before and been burned for his efforts. But no matter what, he still wants to try.

And he can only ask himself if it's enough.

[lazypiper]

So I've been playing this Minecraft server with some friends recently, and one of the mods we have on it is this lil computer mod, with these blocks that serve as LUA environments and can have code run on them right

So I thought it'd be a fun change of pace to not 'join the server' directly at all, and exclusively play through remotely controlling these lil computer blocks via a small websocket server I made- seemed like a unique way to play and I, of course, love robot characters. It's been going well so far! Been really fun

buUUT

I'm sitting here playing with everyone else in the server and people are actively referring to me as a robot/machine/etc and mentioning robotic parts like 'threatening' to hit my power button when getting jokingly mad and discussing my nature as a digital consciousness spread throughout a buncha puters here etc and it's been REALLY fun and

This feels WAY too much like gender euphoria

This has potentially developed into a complicated situation what the fuck do I do

[manyothermusingsofmine]

Me: Hah I beat the chess puzzle with my chess knowledge I feel pretty good about-

Other people: I just broke the piece with my weapon, same result.

Me:

[skullssy]

Experiencing a lot of gender euphoria rn seeing my actual name on Canvas instead of my deadname, we are so back

[dragongutsixofficial]

Today I have learned what gender euphoria feels like

I'M SO HAPPY FOR YOU

[priestfrommidnightmass]

i just started reading elliott page’s memoir today and i should probably stop because it isn’t . Helping my mental state in the slightest but now i’m determined to finish it because that’s how my brain works